het wilhelmus

[Stefan Thomas]

Dear community, especially those of You living in my direct neighborhood in
the Netherlands,
I assume that the melody from "Het Wilhelmus", the National Anthem of NL is
a very old one, from the renaissance.
As far as I know times signatures and especially changes of time signatures
didn't exist in those times.
When searching for sheet music of this song I've only found versions with
bar changes. Does someone of You know,if and where the original source of
this song can be found?
Thanks a lot,
Stefan

Fw: het wilhelmus

[m.tarensk...@kpnmail.nl]

Verzonden vanaf mijn Huawei mobiele telefoon Oorspronkelijk bericht Onderwerp: Re: het wilhelmusVan: m.tarensk...@kpnmail.nlAan: Stefan Thomas Cc: https://nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WilhelmusI don't know if such a thing as *the* original source exists. Probably there are several old sources. But the version in this wiki shows the melody without full barlinesMTVerzonden vanaf mijn Huawei mobiele telefoon Oorspronkelijk bericht Onderwerp: het wilhelmusVan: Stefan Thomas Aan: lilypond-user Cc: Dear community, especially those of You living in my direct neighborhood in the Netherlands,I assume that the melody from "Het Wilhelmus", the National Anthem of NL is a very old one, from the renaissance.As far as I know times signatures and especially changes of time signatures didn't exist in those times.When searching for sheet music of this song I've only found versions with bar changes. Does someone of You know,if and where the original source of this song can be found?Thanks a lot,Stefan

Re: het wilhelmus

[Stefan Thomas]

Dear all,
thank You for the information!
All the best,
Stefan

Am Di., 13. Apr. 2021 um 10:01 Uhr schrieb m.tarensk...@kpnmail.nl <
m.tarensk...@kpnmail.nl>:

> https://nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelmus
>
> I don't know if such a thing as *the* original source exists. Probably
> there are several old sources. But the version in this wiki shows the
> melody without full barlines
>
> MT
>
> Verzonden vanaf mijn Huawei mobiele telefoon
>
>
>  Oorspronkelijk bericht 
> Onderwerp: het wilhelmus
> Van: Stefan Thomas
> Aan: lilypond-user
> Cc:
>
>
> Dear community, especially those of You living in my direct neighborhood
> in the Netherlands,
> I assume that the melody from "Het Wilhelmus", the National Anthem of NL
> is a very old one, from the renaissance.
> As far as I know times signatures and especially changes of time
> signatures didn't exist in those times.
> When searching for sheet music of this song I've only found versions with
> bar changes. Does someone of You know,if and where the original source of
> this song can be found?
> Thanks a lot,
> Stefan
>
>

LilyPond 2.23.2 released

[Phil Holmes]

We are happy to announce the release of LilyPond 2.23.2. This is termed a 
development release, but these are usually reliable. If you want to use the 
current stable version of LilyPond, we recommend using the 2.22.0 version.

--
Phil Holmes

Re: het wilhelmus

[Graham King]

There's an interesting summary here: http://www.originals.be/en/originals/8198

HTH
-- Graham

> On 13 Apr 2021, at 11:00, Stefan Thomas  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear all,
> thank You for the information!
> All the best,
> Stefan
> 
>> Am Di., 13. Apr. 2021 um 10:01 Uhr schrieb m.tarensk...@kpnmail.nl 
>> :
>> https://nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelmus
>> 
>> I don't know if such a thing as *the* original source exists. Probably there 
>> are several old sources. But the version in this wiki shows the melody 
>> without full barlines
>> 
>> MT
>> 
>> Verzonden vanaf mijn Huawei mobiele telefoon
>> 
>> 
>>  Oorspronkelijk bericht 
>> Onderwerp: het wilhelmus
>> Van: Stefan Thomas 
>> Aan: lilypond-user 
>> Cc: 
>> 
>> 
>> Dear community, especially those of You living in my direct neighborhood in 
>> the Netherlands,
>> I assume that the melody from "Het Wilhelmus", the National Anthem of NL is 
>> a very old one, from the renaissance.
>> As far as I know times signatures and especially changes of time signatures 
>> didn't exist in those times.
>> When searching for sheet music of this song I've only found versions with 
>> bar changes. Does someone of You know,if and where the original source of 
>> this song can be found?
>> Thanks a lot,
>> Stefan

Re: het wilhelmus

[Andrew Bernard]

That's amazingly learned. Great!

Amusing to see the historical versions listed as 'covers'. [Obviously a 
limitation of his website, but I did have a giggle.]


Andrew

Graham King wrote on 13/04/2021 9:27 PM:
There's an interesting summary here: 
http://www.originals.be/en/originals/8198

Re: where (if anywhere) does lilypond look for locally shared files?

[Knute Snortum]

On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 9:36 PM David Wright  wrote:
>
> On Mon 12 Apr 2021 at 23:00:53 (-0500), stefano franchi wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 4:39 PM Federico Bruni wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 12 2021 at 15:45:26 -0500, stefano franchi wrote:
> > >
> > > Where am I supposed to store my templates, functions, snippets, etc?

Just throwing this out there: in Frescobaldi there is an area to put
directories that will be included when compiling a LilyPond source
file.

Edit > Preferences > LilyPond Preferences, and look at the bottom of the window.

--
Knute Snortum

Re: where (if anywhere) does lilypond look for locally shared files?

[Jacques Menu]

Hello Stefano,

> Le 13 avr. 2021 à 06:00, stefano franchi  a écrit :
> 
> 
> So there is no way to indicate a system-wide or user-dependent location. Too 
> bad. I'm sure I'll  forget the --include directive every other time... 
> 

You can add this to .bashrc or in a file executed by the latter:

alias lilypond=‘PATH/TO/lilypond -include PATH/TO/INCLUDE/DIR’

JM

Re: where (if anywhere) does lilypond look for locally shared files?

[stefano franchi]

Thanks to all, I am aware of the various unix tricks you can use (>20 yrs
linux-only user...), although I didn't know about the Frescobaldi settings.
I guess I spend so much of my time in LaTeX I was expecting a similar
solution as the default.
Speaking of which, wouldn't it make sense to have it as such? I can't be
the only one who's expecting to find local /vs/ system-wide locations. Or
then again I must have been using unix-derivatives for too long and take
that for granted. I really have no idea how Windows and Mac users deal with
installation issues.

Anyways, I'll shut up now, thanks again to everyone.

S.

On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 8:43 AM Jacques Menu  wrote:

> Hello Stefano,
>
> Le 13 avr. 2021 à 06:00, stefano franchi  a
> écrit :
>
>
> So there is no way to indicate a system-wide or user-dependent location.
> Too bad. I'm sure I'll  forget the --include directive every other time...
>
>
>>
>>
> You can add this to .bashrc or in a file executed by the latter:
>
> alias lilypond=‘PATH/TO/lilypond -include PATH/TO/INCLUDE/DIR’
>
> JM
>
>
>

-- 
__
Stefano Franchi

stefano.fran...@gmail.com 
*https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Stefano_Franchi*

How to tweak X-Y-offset of left Fingerings in a chord

[Thomas Morley]

Hi,

let's say I've a chord with Fingerings left.
Now I want to tweak a certain Fingering a little bit up/down and left/right.

How to do so?

Here a minimal to play with:

{
  \set fingeringOrientations = #'(left)
  

  %% below does not work
  \once \override Fingering.Y-offset = 10
  \once \override Fingering.X-offset = 10
  

  
}

Changing fingeringOrientations is not an option.
Using extra-offset neither, because the Fingering will be the right
bound of the FigerGlideSpanner, which would look misplaced then.


Any hints?


Thanks,
  Harm

Re: where (if anywhere) does lilypond look for locally shared, files?

[David Stocker]

I used to keep custom settings and commands in files in a discrete 
location (later, a synced Dropbox folder) and then symlink to them from 
the *.ly directory in the LilyPond installation directory. Then I could 
just \include them like anything else in the *.ly directory.


There used to be a little package called Link Shell Extension that would 
simulate this behavior on Windows XP / Vista / 7, but I don't know if 
that's even required anymore with BASH (and similar) on Windows.


David

Re: where (if anywhere) does lilypond look for locally shared files?

[David Wright]

On Tue 13 Apr 2021 at 10:18:17 (-0500), stefano franchi wrote:
> Thanks to all, I am aware of the various unix tricks you can use (>20 yrs
> linux-only user...), although I didn't know about the Frescobaldi settings.
> I guess I spend so much of my time in LaTeX I was expecting a similar
> solution as the default.

I don't really understand the parallel between your own templates,
functions, snippets, etc (which are just fragments of LP source code),
and texmf/, which can contain a large collection of diverse sorts of
information: fonts, classes, styles, configurations for several
different programs, etc. What's more, [La]TeX has a program, Kpathsea,
specifically for navigating its directory structure, and this alone
takes 145kB of text to describe it.

> Speaking of which, wouldn't it make sense to have it as such? I can't be
> the only one who's expecting to find local /vs/ system-wide locations. Or
> then again I must have been using unix-derivatives for too long and take
> that for granted. I really have no idea how Windows and Mac users deal with
> installation issues.

As I see it, before you can decide where to keep said Local data, you
have to decide whether you're using only the linux distribution's
version of LP, or whether you're going to download versions from the
LP website.

If the latter, then you still have to decide whether to install a
version in your own home directory, or make it available to all by
installing it in /usr/local/. So now you have, potentially, three
different versions to accomodate with your Local tree, even if you
only install one version in ~. Many people install several (as I do).

If you were charged with deciding where the root of this tree should
be, would you be a "bully" (as some might call texlive) and create
~/lilypond, or add several versioned dotfiles, like ~/.lilypond2182,
~/.lilypond2220, etc. Or would you take the ~/.config/lilypond route,
like frescobaldi.

Whatever your choice, it would have to potentially accomodate several
LP versions, and also be a location compatible with several linux
distributions. With a few exceptions, like Python, it's unusual for
systems to simultaneously support more than one version of a program.

> Anyways, I'll shut up now, thanks again to everyone.

Yes, I'd better, too.

> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 8:43 AM Jacques Menu wrote:
> > Le 13 avr. 2021 à 06:00, stefano franchi a écrit :
> >
> > So there is no way to indicate a system-wide or user-dependent location.
> > Too bad. I'm sure I'll  forget the --include directive every other time...
> >>
> > You can add this to .bashrc or in a file executed by the latter:
> >
> > alias lilypond=‘PATH/TO/lilypond -include PATH/TO/INCLUDE/DIR’

Cheers,
David.