Re: feature request: abs-fontsize available for all text grobs

[Jan-Peter Voigt]

Am 01.08.2013 15:40, schrieb David Kastrup:

Jan-Peter Voigt  writes:


Hi Kieren,

I did some checks on the absolute font-sizes:
- If you do a stencil-add on a stencil created via
grob-interpret-markup and interpret-markup inside a normal markup,
they exactly match-
- If you do a pixel by pixel compare (I did in gimp) a Lyric markup
with an abs-font-size with different global-staff-sizes, they also
match ...
... but you have to move the letter. IMO this is reasonable, because
different staff-sizes mean different scaling of anything else but
these absolute scaled fonts.
Now if you import a simple PDF with a single 'X' 42pt into
Libre/OpenOffice, it will show the found font-sizes of the
text-objects.
If you create the PDF with LibreOffice Century Schoolbook L 42pt and
reimport that PDF, you will have exactly 42pt.
If you create PDF files with an absolute-font-size of 42pt, it will
result in 41,9pt in the reimported file - regardless of the
global-staff-size.
AFAICS the font-size is absolute, but there seems to be a calculation
inaccuracy of 0.1pt.

Does the patch in
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3483> help?

a quick test, after building lilypond including this patch still shows 
41,9pt. So there still seems to be an inaccuracy - maybe its a float 
very near 42 that is rounded/truncated/whatever to a tenth pt number 
while importing the PDF.
So as long there is no problem for the printer and the result on paper 
has the right size, I'd call this 'ugly' but not a top-list-issue.


Jan-Peter


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Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

[Urs Liska]

Am 02.08.2013 01:24, schrieb Robert Honore:

On 01/08/2013 19:15, Urs Liska wrote:

 From what you wrote about lilypond --version I don't think the problem
lies there. But it's probably a good idea to send the file anyway.

Urs

Ok.  What's the procedure for sending the file?

Yours sincerely,
Robert Honoré.


If it's so small you can simply attach it to the email.

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Re: feature request: abs-fontsize available for all text grobs

[David Kastrup]

Jan-Peter Voigt  writes:

> Am 01.08.2013 15:40, schrieb David Kastrup:
>>
>>> AFAICS the font-size is absolute, but there seems to be a calculation
>>> inaccuracy of 0.1pt.
>> Does the patch in
>> http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3483> help?
>>
> a quick test, after building lilypond including this patch still shows
> 41,9pt.

Rats.

> So there still seems to be an inaccuracy - maybe its a float very near
> 42 that is rounded/truncated/whatever to a tenth pt number while
> importing the PDF.

The metrics according to Pango appear to be in 0.1pt increments.  If we
are talking about PostScript/TeX point confusion, 42pt are 41.84bp, so
that would be _just_ short of 41.9bp after rounding.  I would not rule
it out as a source of the problem (particularly if Pango has to round to
get into its 0.1pt scale, and back again), but I am somewhat sceptical
nevertheless.

The main question is likely whether we now get consistent results from
LilyPond: Kieren reported inconsistent sizes depending on how the
absolute font size was arrived at.

-- 
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bar-clef-key

[Mark Stephen Mrotek]

Hello:

 

In the attached file, how do I get the bar, clef, and key to be properly
spaced?

 

Thank you.

 

Mark

\version "2.16.2"

right = \relative c'' {
  \key a \major
  \time 2/4
  
  \repeat volta 2 {
  fis16 a fis d cis e d b | 
  a4 }
  
  \repeat volta 2 {
  \key a \minor
  e'8 c'16 a | }
  
}

left = \relative c' {
  \key a \major
  \time 2/4
  
  < d, a' >8 q < e a > < e gis > |
  < a, a' >4
  
  \once \override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders = #(make-vector 3 '( bar clef key ))
  \key a \minor
  \clef treble
  r8 < a'' c >
  
}

\score {
  \new PianoStaff <<
\new Staff = "right" \right
\new Staff = "left" { \clef bass \left }
  >>
  
}
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Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

[Mats Bengtsson]

On 2013-08-02 03:48, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote:

To answer your question more directly, I first ran the command,
"lilypond --version" at the command line.  After a very long time, it
returned the following text.
It's perfectly normal that it takes extra time the first time you call 
LilyPond after installation/upgrade, since it collects a list of all 
fonts available on your machine. However, this should only happen the 
first time, not when you run LilyPond again later.


   /Mats

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Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

[Robert Honoré]

On 02/08/2013 04:45, Urs Liska wrote:
> Am 02.08.2013 01:24, schrieb Robert Honore:
>> On 01/08/2013 19:15, Urs Liska wrote:
>>>  From what you wrote about lilypond --version I don't think the problem
>>> lies there. But it's probably a good idea to send the file anyway.
>>>
>>> Urs
>> Ok.  What's the procedure for sending the file?
>>
>> Yours sincerely,
>> Robert Honoré.
>>
> If it's so small you can simply attach it to the email.
> 

Here it is, then.

/Robert


\version "2.6.0"
\header { 
  title = "Serial 1"
  composer = "Robert Honore"
 }

global = {
   \time 4/4
 }

themeOne = \relative c' {d4 e fis a | cis b a f |
<< a1 fis e d >> | << cis'1 b a f >> |
ees2 g4 aes4 | c bes <> | <> 
<< a2 fis e d >> | <> |}

\score {
<<
 \new staff \global \themeOne
>>
\layout { }
\midi {\tempo 4 = 90 }
}
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Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

[David Nalesnik]

Hi Robert,


On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Robert Honoré wrote:

> On 02/08/2013 04:45, Urs Liska wrote:
>
> [...]


> > If it's so small you can simply attach it to the email.
> >
>
> Here it is, then.
>

This example file is very old.  When I try to run it (under 2.17.23), I get
a warning "file too old: 2.6.0 (oldest supported: 2.7.38)".   Running
convert-ly on it doesn't fully update it: in particular "staff" isn't
properly capitalized---though I don't know if that was ever correct syntax.

--David
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Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

[bb]

Am 02.08.2013 14:17, schrieb David Nalesnik:

Hi Robert,


On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Robert Honoré mailto:robert.hon...@gmail.com>> wrote:

On 02/08/2013 04:45, Urs Liska wrote:

[...]

 > If it's so small you can simply attach it to the email.
 >

Here it is, then.


This example file is very old.  When I try to run it (under 2.17.23), I
get a warning "file too old: 2.6.0 (oldest supported: 2.7.38)".
Running convert-ly on it doesn't fully update it: in particular "staff"
isn't properly capitalized---though I don't know if that was ever
correct syntax.

--David



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The syntax seems correct. It compiles without any conversion after 
changing the 1. Line to

\version 2.16.2
and makes a pdf and a midi file.

Reagards

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Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

[Robert Honoré]

On 02/08/2013 08:17, David Nalesnik wrote:
> Hi Robert,
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Robert Honoré  > wrote:
> 
> On 02/08/2013 04:45, Urs Liska wrote:
> 
> [...]
>  
> 
> > If it's so small you can simply attach it to the email.
> >
> 
> Here it is, then.
> 
> 
> This example file is very old.  When I try to run it (under 2.17.23), I
> get a warning "file too old: 2.6.0 (oldest supported: 2.7.38)".  
> Running convert-ly on it doesn't fully update it: in particular "staff"
> isn't properly capitalized---though I don't know if that was ever
> correct syntax.
> 
> --David
> 

Thanks.

At the time I processed that file I used 2.12.2, but now, even after
having reverted to 2.12.2 from 2.16.2, I cannot get lilypond to run even
to the stage of giving me a log file to allow me to deal with any syntax
issues.

Now I'm wondering if I made some terrible error while installing
lilypond.  I am attempting a complete cleanup and will report back in a
couple hours.

Yours sincerely,
Robert Honoré.




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Re: bar-clef-key

[Phil Holmes]

If you delete:

\once \override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders = #(make-vector 3 '( 
bar clef key ))

Then they appear correct to my eyes.

--
Phil Holmes


  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Stephen Mrotek 
  To: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 10:54 AM
  Subject: bar-clef-key


  Hello:

   

  In the attached file, how do I get the bar, clef, and key to be properly 
spaced?

   

  Thank you.

   

  Mark



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RE: bar-clef-key

[Mark Stephen Mrotek]

Mr. Holmes:

 

Thank you for your response.

If the command is deleted the treble clef appears before the repeat sign and
would conflict with the bass clef at the beginning of the repeated section.

The clef should appear after the repeat sign.

 

Mark

 

From: Phil Holmes [mailto:m...@philholmes.net] 
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 8:08 AM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bar-clef-key

 

If you delete:

 

\once \override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders = #(make-vector 3
'( bar clef key ))

 

Then they appear correct to my eyes.


--
Phil Holmes

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Mark Stephen Mrotek   

To: lilypond-user@gnu.org 

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 10:54 AM

Subject: bar-clef-key

 

Hello:

 

In the attached file, how do I get the bar, clef, and key to be properly
spaced?

 

Thank you.

 

Mark


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Re: feature request: abs-fontsize available for all text grobs

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi,

> Kieren reported inconsistent sizes depending on how the
> absolute font size was arrived at.

Particularly when I used e.g., #(set-global-staff-size 25.5)

Cheers,
Kieren.

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Re: bar-clef-key

[Phil Holmes]

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.general/70274 gives this:

\once \override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders = #(make-vector 3 '( 
staff-bar
clef
key-cancellation
key-signature
time-signature))




--
Phil Holmes


  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Stephen Mrotek 
  To: 'Phil Holmes' ; lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 4:39 PM
  Subject: RE: bar-clef-key


  Mr. Holmes:

   

  Thank you for your response.

  If the command is deleted the treble clef appears before the repeat sign and 
would conflict with the bass clef at the beginning of the repeated section.

  The clef should appear after the repeat sign.

   

  Mark

   

  From: Phil Holmes [mailto:m...@philholmes.net] 
  Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 8:08 AM
  To: Mark Stephen Mrotek; lilypond-user@gnu.org
  Subject: Re: bar-clef-key

   

  If you delete:

   

  \once \override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders = #(make-vector 3 
'( bar clef key ))

   

  Then they appear correct to my eyes.


  --
  Phil Holmes

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: Mark Stephen Mrotek 

To: lilypond-user@gnu.org 

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 10:54 AM

Subject: bar-clef-key

 

Hello:

 

In the attached file, how do I get the bar, clef, and key to be properly 
spaced?

 

Thank you.

 

Mark




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Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

[Robert Honore]

On 02/08/2013 12:47, Robin Bannister wrote:
> Robert Honoré wrote:
> 
>>  I am attempting a complete cleanup ...
> 
> This would include deleting the font cache,
> or rather: _all_ lilypond font caches.
> 
> I had a mix-up with these caches (on XP)
> with somewhat similar symptoms.
> Check out the thread ending in
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-01/msg00297.html
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Robin

Thanks, Robin.  I hope I found all of them.

Yours sincerely,
Robert Honoré.


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Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

[Robin Bannister]

Robert Honoré wrote:


 I am attempting a complete cleanup ...


This would include deleting the font cache,
or rather: _all_ lilypond font caches.

I had a mix-up with these caches (on XP)
with somewhat similar symptoms.
Check out the thread ending in
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-01/msg00297.html


Cheers,
Robin 



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Re: feature request: abs-fontsize available for all text grobs

[David Kastrup]

Kieren MacMillan  writes:

> Hi,
>
>> Kieren reported inconsistent sizes depending on how the
>> absolute font size was arrived at.
>
> Particularly when I used e.g., #(set-global-staff-size 25.5)

Do you have a complete example showing the discrepancy?

-- 
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Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

[Robert Honoré]

On 02/08/2013 08:17, David Nalesnik wrote:
> Hi Robert,
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Robert Honoré  > wrote:
> 
> On 02/08/2013 04:45, Urs Liska wrote:
> 
> [...]
>  
> 
> > If it's so small you can simply attach it to the email.
> >
> 
> Here it is, then.
> 
> 
> This example file is very old.  When I try to run it (under 2.17.23), I
> get a warning "file too old: 2.6.0 (oldest supported: 2.7.38)".  
> Running convert-ly on it doesn't fully update it: in particular "staff"
> isn't properly capitalized---though I don't know if that was ever
> correct syntax.
> 
> --David
> 
> 
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I have an update consisting of a command line session log (not the
lilypond log file).

Please find attached lilypond_debug_log.txt and craptastic-1.ly.

I had observed that following the uninstall prior to installing the new
lilypond, the C:\program files\lilypond directory was still left behind,
together with some of its subdirectories, when the uninstall procedure
reported that it had completed.  So I deleted that entire directory
tree.  I also searched the registry for any reference to lilypond, and
found that the only ones around in the registry pertained to the
software for Denemo and Frescobaldi, so I left the registry alone.

Then I did a fresh installation of lilypond 2.16.2, and attempted
another test.

When I used the command "lilypond --version" the command quickly
returned with the version and license information.  I thought that
looked like progress, so I tried to use lilypond to process a file.  I
used the command, "lilypond -l DEBUG craptastic.ly in the directory
containing the file craptastic-1.ly.  The result I got is described in
the attached file lilypond_debug_log.txt.  Notice from the log that the
filename craptastic.ly is actually invalid, but I do not get an error
message about the file not being found.

>From the last line appearing on the debug log, lilypond apparently got
stuck building the font database.  I let it run for almost an hour
before I killed it with a ctrl-C.  It does not appear to have made any
progress beyond that.  This time I don't believe I did anything wrong in
the installation of lilypond, but it still doesn't work for me.

Yours sincerely,
Robert Honoré.

C:\Users\robert\Music_Typesetting>date
The current date is: 02/08/2013
Enter the new date: (dd-mm-yy)

C:\Users\robert\Music_Typesetting>time
The current time is: 10:49:19.85
Enter the new time:

C:\Users\robert\Music_Typesetting>lilypond -l DEBUG craptastic.ly
Log level set to 287
GNU LilyPond 2.16.2
Relocation: from PATH=C:\Users\robert\Music_Typesetting;C:\XDS-2.60\bin;C:\Progr
am Files\PC Connectivity Solution\;C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\Sys
tem32\Wbem;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\DLLShared\;C:\Program File
s\Common Files\Roxio Shared\DLLShared\;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Share
d\9.0\DLLShared\;C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files\GN
U\GnuPG\pub;C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin
argv0=lilypondPATH=C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin (prepend)
Setting PATH to C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin;C:\XDS-2.60\bin;C:\Program Fil
es\PC Connectivity Solution\;C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\
Wbem;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\DLLShared\;C:\Program Files\Comm
on Files\Roxio Shared\DLLShared\;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\9.0\
DLLShared\;C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files\GNU\GnuP
G\pub;C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin
Relocation: compile datadir=, new datadir=C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/share/li
lypond//current
Relocation: framework_prefix=C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/..
Setting INSTALLER_PREFIX to C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/..
Relocation file: C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../etc/relocate//fontconfig.r
eloc
Setting FONTCONFIG_FILE to C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../etc/fonts/fonts.
conf
Setting FONTCONFIG_PATH to C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../etc/fonts
Relocation file: C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../etc/relocate//gs.reloc
warning: no such directory: C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/ghostscri
pt/8.70/fonts for GS_FONTPATH
warning: no such directory: C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/gs/fonts
for GS_FONTPATH
GS_LIB=C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/ghostscript/8.70/Resource (pre
pend)
Setting GS_LIB to C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/ghostscript/8.70/Re
source
GS_LIB=C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/ghostscript/8.70/Resource/Init
 (prepend)
Setting GS_LIB to C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/ghostscript/8.70/Re
source/Init;C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../share/ghostscript/8.70/Resource

Relocation file: C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin/../etc/relocate//guile.reloc
GUILE_LOAD_PATH=C:/Program File

RE: bar-clef-key

[Mark Stephen Mrotek]

Mr. Holmes:

 

Thank you for taking the time to ferret out this resolution. I did tweak it
a little by putting "clef" at the end of the list. It is visually more
appealing to me.

Is the site your listed below the same as:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/?

 

Mark

 

From: Phil Holmes [mailto:m...@philholmes.net] 
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 9:08 AM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bar-clef-key

 

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.general/70274 gives this:

 

\once \override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders = #(make-vector 3
'( 
staff-bar
clef
key-cancellation
key-signature
time-signature))


--
Phil Holmes

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Mark Stephen Mrotek   

To: 'Phil Holmes'   ; lilypond-user@gnu.org 

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 4:39 PM

Subject: RE: bar-clef-key

 

Mr. Holmes:

 

Thank you for your response.

If the command is deleted the treble clef appears before the repeat sign and
would conflict with the bass clef at the beginning of the repeated section.

The clef should appear after the repeat sign.

 

Mark

 

From: Phil Holmes [mailto:m...@philholmes.net] 
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 8:08 AM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bar-clef-key

 

If you delete:

 

\once \override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders = #(make-vector 3
'( bar clef key ))

 

Then they appear correct to my eyes.


--
Phil Holmes

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Mark Stephen Mrotek   

To: lilypond-user@gnu.org 

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 10:54 AM

Subject: bar-clef-key

 

Hello:

 

In the attached file, how do I get the bar, clef, and key to be properly
spaced?

 

Thank you.

 

Mark


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Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

[bb]

Am 02.08.2013 13:56, schrieb Robert Honoré:

\version "2.6.0"
\header {
   title = "Serial 1"
   composer = "Robert Honore"
  }

global = {
\time 4/4
  }

themeOne = \relative c' {d4 e fis a | cis b a f |
<< a1 fis e d >> | << cis'1 b a f >> |
ees2 g4 aes4 | c bes <> | <>
<< a2 fis e d >> | <> |}

\score {
<<
  \new staff \global \themeOne

>>

\layout { }
\midi {\tempo 4 = 90 }
}


Do you really use version 2.6.0. Than it does not compile with version 
2.16.2!

If one changes the first line to
\version "2.16.2"
it will compile without problems.

Regards BB

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Re: LilyPond meeting in Waltrop, Germany, 2013-08-16 to 2013-08-20

[Marc Hohl]

Am 30.07.2013 18:33, schrieb David Kastrup:


Well, after several announcements, I now have about four participants
for this year's meeting secured.  While that's about the amount who
bothered registering timely last year, it means that I am not able to
plan suitably ahead.
[...]
The date this time around will be August 2013, Friday 16th to Tuesday
20th, with the possibility to arrive Thursday 15th late in the day for
people who'd otherwise miss stuff early Friday.


I am sorry to say that I am in Great Britain during the LilyPond meeting
this year, so I won't be able to join :-(

Nevertheless, last year's meeting was a great experience, so I recommend
everyone to participate – it is one of the rare opportunities to meet
other lilyponders and get a grip to actual development.

Best wishes,

Marc



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Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

[Robert Honoré]

On 02/08/2013 08:17, bb wrote:
> Am 02.08.2013 13:56, schrieb Robert Honoré:
>> \version "2.6.0"
>> \header {
>>title = "Serial 1"
>>composer = "Robert Honore"
>>   }
>>
>> global = {
>> \time 4/4
>>   }
>>
>> themeOne = \relative c' {d4 e fis a | cis b a f |
>> << a1 fis e d >> | << cis'1 b a f >> |
>> ees2 g4 aes4 | c bes <> | <>
>> << a2 fis e d >> | <> |}
>>
>> \score {
>> <<
>>   \new staff \global \themeOne
 >>
>> \layout { }
>> \midi {\tempo 4 = 90 }
>> }
> 
> Do you really use version 2.6.0. Than it does not compile with version
> 2.16.2!
> If one changes the first line to
> \version "2.16.2"
> it will compile without problems.
> 
> Regards BB

It usually does once I change the version string. I had sent the one
that worked with my previous installation of lilypond (2.12.3).
Usually, when I do an upgrade, I would change the version string once I
get the error message when I attempt to process it.
That is usually the first hint I get that the syntax I have in my old
*.ly files might need to be checked.

The file I sent (serial-1.ly) is my test file.  It has only one line of
random music, so that it serves as the subject of a quick test.  My
current problem is that I can't even get lilypond to go to the point
where it tells me that the file was found and it has begun processing,
far less to tell me that the version string is too old (see my previous
post with the command line session log).  If I could get lilypond to
tell me that, I would consider it progress.

Yours sincerely,
Robert Honoré.




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Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

[Federico Bruni]

2013/8/2 Robert Honoré 

> Please find attached lilypond_debug_log.txt and craptastic-1.ly.
>

I can compile it on linux using version 2.16.2
I get a warning about encoding of file:

craptastic-1.ly <0>: warning: non-UTF-8 input

composer = "Robert Honor

�"



In fact it's:


$ file craptastic-1.ly

craptastic-1.ly: ISO-8859 text, with CRLF line terminators

The other warning is:

warning: cannot find or create new `staff'

[8]


you should write

\new Staff

(instead of \new staff)


Finally, you should insert \global inside themeOne.


Can you compile the attached file?


craptastic.ly
Description: Binary data
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Right Hand Fingering Colision

[Kale Good]

Hello,
I'm working with right hand fingerings and finding some pretty nasty 
collisions. Any way to mend this?


Thanks,
Kale

\version "2.16.2"

rh = #rightHandFinger

basslineOne = { \set strokeFingerOrientations = #'(down) {  c,4\rh #1 e 
g c, | b d g b,} }



melody =

\relative c''
{

<<
\scaleDurations #'(2 . 3)  { \set strokeFingerOrientations = 
#'(up)  {c,8 c'\rh #2 e\rh #3 } }

\\
{ c,4\rh #1 }
>>



}



\score
{
\melody
\layout
{
}
}

\paper {
}



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Nesting \absolute in 2.16 (or alternative) for predefined bass line

[Kale Good]

Hello,
I'm having a bit of a problem that seems like it could be resolved by 
nesting \absolute, but I'm not sure if 2.16 supports it (sure doesn't 
seem to, from my tests). I see its in the docs for 2.17, but I was 
wondering if there was an alternative in 2.16.2 . Here is what I'm 
trying to do.


I've got a bass line that I'm reusing with different arpeggios, but when 
placed with certain arpeggios, it seems to be deriving its pitch from 
the previous note (which happens to be in the other voice, which is 
throwing everything off).


Also, this are two of a series of right hand studies for classical 
guitar. I'd like to keep it structured this way so that I can comment on 
individual exercises.


Thanks,
Kale

\version "2.16.2"

rh = #rightHandFinger

basslineOne = { \set strokeFingerOrientations = #'(down) {  c,4\rh #1 e 
g c, | b d g b,} }



melody =

\relative c''
{
% exercise 1
<<
\scaleDurations #'(2 . 3)  { \set strokeFingerOrientations = 
#'(up)  {c,8 c'\rh #2 e\rh #3 }  {e, c' e}  {g, c e}  {c, c' e}  {b, d' 
f}  {d, d' f} {g, d' f}  {b,, d' f} }

\\
{\basslineOne}
>>
 % exercise 2
<<
\scaleDurations #'(2 . 3) { \set strokeFingerOrientations = 
#'(up) {c g'\rh #3 e\rh #2 }  {e c' g }  {g e' c }  {c, e' c }  {b, g' d 
}  {d d' g, }  {g f' d }  {b, f' d } }

\\
{ \transpose c c' {\basslineOne } }
>>

}



\score
{
\melody
\layout
{
}
}

\paper {
}





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Re: anyone got lilypond 2.16.2 to work on Windows Vista?

[David Rogers]

Robert Honoré  writes:

> It usually does once I change the version string. I had sent the one
> that worked with my previous installation of lilypond (2.12.3).
> Usually, when I do an upgrade, I would change the version string once I
> get the error message when I attempt to process it.
> That is usually the first hint I get that the syntax I have in my old
> *.ly files might need to be checked.
>
> The file I sent (serial-1.ly) is my test file.  It has only one line of
> random music, so that it serves as the subject of a quick test.  My
> current problem is that I can't even get lilypond to go to the point
> where it tells me that the file was found and it has begun processing,
> far less to tell me that the version string is too old (see my previous
> post with the command line session log).  If I could get lilypond to
> tell me that, I would consider it progress.


Robert: It seems to me that you are working very hard to outsmart
Lilypond, doing tricks that "should theoretically work if..." some
particular obscure unreliable condition is met.

At the risk of sounding dismissive, I'll say: why not just read the
manual and follow the instructions? They work quite well as printed -
there's no need to resort to "extracurricular tricks" to make sure
Lilypond is working.

One bad part about Lilypond is that you do have to follow the
instructions and intentions of the people who programmed it. When they
say "do it this way", there is nearly always the implication
"... because no other way will work", or at least "no other way gives
any guarantee". Another bad part is simply that Lilypond is quite a
large collection of code; unless you wrote a large chunk of that code
yourself, it's safe to assume that you don't know how it ought to work
except by being told - either by those who *have* written large chunks
of it, or by those who use it on a daily basis and have become very
familiar with it.

Occasionally things do change - make sure you're reading the manuals and
instructions for the Lilypond version you're really using, and not
simply hoping that outdated methods will still (by chance) work.


-- 
David R

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Re: Right Hand Fingering Colision

[Keith OHara]

Kale Good  kalegood.com> writes:
> I'm working with right hand fingerings and finding some pretty nasty
> collisions. Any way to mend this?

Probably
   \override StrokeFinger #'add-stem-support = ##t



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Re: Nesting \absolute in 2.16 (or alternative) for predefined bass line

[Keith OHara]

Kale Good  kalegood.com> writes:

> I've got a bass line that I'm reusing with different arpeggios, but
> when placed with certain arpeggios, it seems to be deriving its
> pitch from the previous note (which happens to be in the other
> voice, which is throwing everything off).

You have a  \relative c'' {...}  around both voices so the program is 
interpreting your pitches relative to the previous one in the input,
regardless of which voice it is in.

I suggest using a separate \relative c'' {...} around short segments 
where it is natural to think of the pitches relative to the previous pitch.
For exercises, maybe you don't want to use \relative at all. 

For the baseline I'm pretty sure you would prefer to use absolute pitches,
and if you move the transpose to the definition of "basslineOne"
 basslineOne = \transpose c c' { c4 e g c | b, d g b, } 
then LilyPond doesn't interpret pitches as relative.


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Re: Sharing: "Capone," by Rachael [pdf]

[Federico Bruni]

2013/7/9 Rachael Thomas Carlson 

> In the Fingerstyle world, notating String-dampening or string stopping is
> of the utmost importance.  Michael Hedges is the composer who comes
> to mind who used it with beautiful results.  With Finale, you have to use
> a separate program to input the string dampening.  With Lilypond, you
> can use a TextSpan that is placed in the #-1 layer.  If anyone is
> interested in the .ly file of the piece please let me know.  Also, I am
> more than open to constructive criticism.
>

Hi Rachael

I wonder what's the meaning of the staff lines highlighted in purple...
Also, all the slides in your piece seem non legato, because they are not
slurred. I use to write legato slides as:

c( \glissando d)

But my tablature references are probably very different from yours.

Feel free to share the recording if you have found it, I enjoy fingerstyle
guitar ;-)
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Support for Uke chords?

[Clark Milioti]

Greetings,

I just discovered LilyPond.  I am blown away by the concept of its
text-based input.  Very clever and easy to pick up.

While I intend to read the "learning.pdf" manual this weekend, I was
wondering if anyone can help steer me toward using LilyPond for simple
chord tab charts for the Uke?

My objective -- at least initially -- is to generate simple chord tab
sheets for my uke playing.  Like the "popular music" examples provided on
the LilyPond website.

The example demonstrates that LilyPond can produce guitar chord symbols,
but is it capable of doing the same for a standard, c-tuning uke symbols?

Much appreciated!

- Clark
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Re: Support for Uke chords?

[Federico Bruni]

2013/8/3 Clark Milioti 

> Greetings,
>
> I just discovered LilyPond.  I am blown away by the concept of its
> text-based input.  Very clever and easy to pick up.
>
>
Good to hear this, you are one of us ;-)



> While I intend to read the "learning.pdf" manual this weekend, I was
> wondering if anyone can help steer me toward using LilyPond for simple
> chord tab charts for the Uke?
>
> My objective -- at least initially -- is to generate simple chord tab
> sheets for my uke playing.  Like the "popular music" examples provided on
> the LilyPond website.
>
> The example demonstrates that LilyPond can produce guitar chord symbols,
> but is it capable of doing the same for a standard, c-tuning uke symbols?
>
> Much appreciated!
>
>
You should read through chapter 2.4 of the Notation Reference and
specifically this section:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-fretted-strings#fret-diagram-markups

I recommend using:
\include "predefined-ukulele-fretboards.ly"
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Re: Support for Uke chords?

[David Kastrup]

Clark Milioti  writes:

> Greetings,
>
> I just discovered LilyPond.  I am blown away by the concept of its
> text-based input.  Very clever and easy to pick up.
>
> While I intend to read the "learning.pdf" manual this weekend, I was
> wondering if anyone can help steer me toward using LilyPond for simple
> chord tab charts for the Uke?
>
> My objective -- at least initially -- is to generate simple chord tab
> sheets for my uke playing.  Like the "popular music" examples provided on
> the LilyPond website.
>
> The example demonstrates that LilyPond can produce guitar chord symbols,
> but is it capable of doing the same for a standard, c-tuning uke symbols?

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-fretted-strings#predefined-fret-diagrams>
reads:

Fret diagrams for the ukulele are contained in the file
‘predefined-ukulele-fretboards.ly’.

And is followed by an example for Ukulele.

The list of predefined diagrams is in
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/predefined-fretboard-diagrams>,
just scroll down to the section about Ukulele.

-- 
David Kastrup


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