Re: Splayed stems

2011-12-20 Thread James
Hello,

On 20 December 2011 07:57, m...@apollinemike.com  wrote:
> On Dec 20, 2011, at 12:21 AM, Keith OHara wrote:
>
>> Caio Barros  gmail.com> writes:
 We have a snippet http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=505
>>> Thanks. It is close indeed.
>>
>> You might want to omit the extra splayed stem.  The chord is
>> still ugly, but draws less attention to its ugliness.
>>
>> \relative g''' { < ges! g! \tweak #'X-offset #1.2 a>4 e d c }
>>
>
>
> w00t !

p00t :(

GNU LilyPond 2.14.1
Processing `test.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...ERROR: Unbound variable: ly:stem::calc-stem-begin-position



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Re: Splayed stems

2011-12-20 Thread m...@apollinemike.com

On Dec 20, 2011, at 9:08 AM, James wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> On 20 December 2011 07:57, m...@apollinemike.com  
> wrote:
>> On Dec 20, 2011, at 12:21 AM, Keith OHara wrote:
>> 
>>> Caio Barros  gmail.com> writes:
> We have a snippet http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=505
 Thanks. It is close indeed.
>>> 
>>> You might want to omit the extra splayed stem.  The chord is
>>> still ugly, but draws less attention to its ugliness.
>>> 
>>> \relative g''' { < ges! g! \tweak #'X-offset #1.2 a>4 e d c }
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> w00t !
> 
> p00t :(
> 
> GNU LilyPond 2.14.1
> Processing `test.ly'
> Parsing...
> Interpreting music...
> Preprocessing graphical objects...
> Interpreting music...
> Preprocessing graphical objects...
> Finding the ideal number of pages...
> Fitting music on 1 page...
> Drawing systems...ERROR: Unbound variable: ly:stem::calc-stem-begin-position
> 

Sorry...I was compiling off of the most recent development version.

Cheers,
MS


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ANN: Frescobaldi 1.9.5, last beta before 2.0.0

2011-12-20 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Hi all,

Frescobaldi 1.9.5 has been released with the following changes since
1.9.4:

* Updated translations: es, nl, cs
* Bug fixes:
  - charmap now avoids characters "narrow" builds of Python can't handle
  - fix incorrect midi tempo when midi file contains tempo changes
  - fix importing the pyportmidi._pyportmidi module if that is used
  - really honor 'delete intermediate files' option
* New features:
  - Documents list with optional per-directory grouping
  - helper applications can be specified to override operating system
defaults
  - list of generated files in LilyPond menu
* Improvements:
  - tooltips in music view show variable name of music definition
  - search bar in documentation browser
  - autocomplete on \include, \language
  - other small cosmetic improvements

Download:
https://github.com/downloads/wbsoft/frescobaldi/frescobaldi-1.9.5.tar.gz

Please test and enjoy; if no big bugs will be found, this will become
2.0.0 on December 26th, 2011.

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Organmusic with same spacing in staffgroup as above pedal staff

2011-12-20 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Hi,

I often use the following structure for organ music:

\score {
  <<
\new PianoStaff <<
  \new Staff = "upper" { c }
  \new Staff = "lower" { c }
>>
\new Staff = "pedal" { c }
  >>
}

But the pedal staff is at a greater distance than the manual staves.
This is caused by the StaffGrouper that's created in the PianoStaff,
and of course this would be desirable for orchestral scores with a
piano part in it.

But I tried to remove the StaffGrouper, by using topLevelAlignment =
##t, so that the spacing would be the same between all staves:

\score {
  <<
\new PianoStaff \with {
  topLevelAlignment = ##t
} <<
  \new Staff = "upper" { c }
  \new Staff = "lower" { c }
>>
\new Staff = "pedal" { c }
  >>
}

But this seems to hang LilyPond (2.14.2 and 2.15.22) indefinitely. Is
this a bug or is there a better method to use uniform spacing (other
than manually setting staff-staff-spacing and staffgroup-staff-spacing
on the StaffGrouper to the same values)?

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Re: Organmusic with same spacing in staffgroup as above pedal staff

2011-12-20 Thread David Kastrup
Wilbert Berendsen  writes:

> Hi,
>
> I often use the following structure for organ music:
>
> \score {
>   <<
> \new PianoStaff <<
>   \new Staff = "upper" { c }
>   \new Staff = "lower" { c }
> >>
> \new Staff = "pedal" { c }
>   >>
> }

\score {
  <<
\new PianoStaff \with { \remove "Vertical_align_engraver" }
<<
  \new Staff = "upper" { c' }
  \new Staff = "lower" { \clef bass c }
>>
\new Staff = "pedal" { \clef bass c }
  >>
}

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Default ending barline

2011-12-20 Thread Nils
Hello, 

is there a way to tell Lilypond that it should use a default ending barline, 
except if there is already one (for example a closing repeat). 


That is: If I write just some notes in a music block I will get the Treble 
Clef, 4/4, C Major, all the defaults, and the piece should close with an ending 
barline.


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Re: Default ending barline

2011-12-20 Thread James
Hello,

On 20 December 2011 11:18, Nils  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> is there a way to tell Lilypond that it should use a default ending barline, 
> except if there is already one (for example a closing repeat).
>
>
> That is: If I write just some notes in a music block I will get the Treble 
> Clef, 4/4, C Major, all the defaults, and the piece should close with an 
> ending barline.
>
>
> Nils

\bar "|."

?

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Re: Default ending barline

2011-12-20 Thread Nils
Default. You get the treble clef without writing it out, right?

Nils

On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:00:35 +
James  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> On 20 December 2011 11:18, Nils  wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > is there a way to tell Lilypond that it should use a default ending 
> > barline, except if there is already one (for example a closing repeat).
> >
> >
> > That is: If I write just some notes in a music block I will get the Treble 
> > Clef, 4/4, C Major, all the defaults, and the piece should close with an 
> > ending barline.
> >
> >
> > Nils
> 
> \bar "|."
> 
> ?
> 
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> --
> 
> James
> 

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Figured Bass Accidentals are misaligned. I need them shifted up.

2011-12-20 Thread Nils
Hello,

When using accidentals stand-alone in figured bass <_+ _! _-> you'll notice 
that they are shifted down. I need them shifted up. How do I do that (in 
general, not one by one).

Related: I already applied this patch which makes accidentals the same size as 
normal figures. I wonder why this is not in the release since the patch is 2 
years old.
http://codereview.appspot.com/74056/patch/1/2

So I would be happy to rewrite that part to shift the accidentals up to the 
correct position. I just don't know how :)

Nils

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Re: Default ending barline

2011-12-20 Thread James
On 20 December 2011 12:01, Nils  wrote:
> Default. You get the treble clef without writing it out, right?
>
> Nils

I guess I don't know what you mean by 'default' then.

\bar"|." prints the bar with a thick and thin whereas (to me) the
default is just a single line.

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Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 1.9.5, last beta before 2.0.0

2011-12-20 Thread Ian Hulin
Hi Wilbert,
On 20/12/11 10:15, Wilbert Berendsen wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Frescobaldi 1.9.5 has been released with the following changes
> since 1.9.4:
> 
> * Updated translations: es, nl, cs * Bug fixes: - charmap now
> avoids characters "narrow" builds of Python can't handle - fix
> incorrect midi tempo when midi file contains tempo changes - fix
> importing the pyportmidi._pyportmidi module if that is used -
> really honor 'delete intermediate files' option * New features: -
> Documents list with optional per-directory grouping - helper
> applications can be specified to override operating system 
> defaults - list of generated files in LilyPond menu *
> Improvements: - tooltips in music view show variable name of music
> definition - search bar in documentation browser - autocomplete on
> \include, \language - other small cosmetic improvements
> 
> Download: 
> https://github.com/downloads/wbsoft/frescobaldi/frescobaldi-1.9.5.tar.gz
>
>  Please test and enjoy; if no big bugs will be found, this will
> become 2.0.0 on December 26th, 2011.
> 
Have you got a debian or Ubuntu package that sorts out all the
dependencies for Poppler, PyQt4 and popplerqt4?  I've not been able to
install these by hand on Ubuntu 11.10 yet, and get Frescobaldi Music
View going.

Cheers,
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Re: Default ending barline

2011-12-20 Thread Nils
Default means that you don't have to explicitly write it out.
If you don't give any special barline manually at the end it should print the 
ending barline. 

On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:07:54 +
James  wrote:

> On 20 December 2011 12:01, Nils  wrote:
> > Default. You get the treble clef without writing it out, right?
> >
> > Nils
> 
> I guess I don't know what you mean by 'default' then.
> 
> \bar"|." prints the bar with a thick and thin whereas (to me) the
> default is just a single line.
> 
> Regards
> 
> -- 
> --
> 
> James
> 

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Re: Organmusic with same spacing in staffgroup as above pedal staff

2011-12-20 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:03:04 +0100
David Kastrup  schreef:

> \remove "Vertical_align_engraver"

Thank you, that did the trick!

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Re: Organmusic with same spacing in staffgroup as above pedal staff

2011-12-20 Thread -Eluze


Wilbert Berendsen-6 wrote:
> 
> I often use the following structure for organ music:
> 
> \score {
>   <<
> \new PianoStaff <<
>   \new Staff = "upper" { c }
>   \new Staff = "lower" { c }
> >>
> \new Staff = "pedal" { c }
>   >>
> }
> 
> But the pedal staff is at a greater distance than the manual staves.
> This is caused by the StaffGrouper that's created in the PianoStaff,
> and of course this would be desirable for orchestral scores with a
> piano part in it.
> 
> But I tried to remove the StaffGrouper, by using topLevelAlignment =
> ##t, so that the spacing would be the same between all staves:
> 
> \score {
>   <<
> \new PianoStaff \with {
>   topLevelAlignment = ##t
> } <<
>   \new Staff = "upper" { c }
>   \new Staff = "lower" { c }
> >>
> \new Staff = "pedal" { c }
>   >>
> }
> 
> But this seems to hang LilyPond (2.14.2 and 2.15.22) indefinitely. Is
> this a bug or is there a better method to use uniform spacing (other
> than manually setting staff-staff-spacing and staffgroup-staff-spacing
> on the StaffGrouper to the same values)?
> 
i'm not certain about the use of topLevelAlignment and its location (should
it only be used in a \Score context? at least there it doesn't hang)

at a simple glance i got the impression that removing the
System_start_delimiter_engraver from the PianoStaff and integrating the
pedal in the PianoStaff should achieve the equal vertical spacing - at least
for this simple example.

Eluze


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Re: Organmusic with same spacing in staffgroup as above pedal staff

2011-12-20 Thread David Kastrup
-Eluze  writes:

> at a simple glance i got the impression that removing the
> System_start_delimiter_engraver from the PianoStaff and integrating
> the pedal in the PianoStaff should achieve the equal vertical spacing
> - at least for this simple example.

Unfortunately organ music retains the brace for the two upper staffs.

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Re: Default ending barline

2011-12-20 Thread Nils
I worked around by writing a regular expression program that checks my staff 
endings for me and inserts \bar "|." if there is no other barline.


On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:22:07 +0100
Nils  wrote:

> Default means that you don't have to explicitly write it out.
> If you don't give any special barline manually at the end it should print the 
> ending barline. 
> 
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:07:54 +
> James  wrote:
> 
> > On 20 December 2011 12:01, Nils  wrote:
> > > Default. You get the treble clef without writing it out, right?
> > >
> > > Nils
> > 
> > I guess I don't know what you mean by 'default' then.
> > 
> > \bar"|." prints the bar with a thick and thin whereas (to me) the
> > default is just a single line.
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > -- 
> > --
> > 
> > James
> > 
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Taking the old website down

2011-12-20 Thread Alberto Simões

Hello

As a suggestion, please delete the web page that answers to:

http://lilypond.org/web/install/

or add a redirect there.

That is the first link on google for "lilypond download" and ever 
myself, that knows lilypond website has been redesigned, didn't notice 
it and downloaded an old version.


Cheers
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Problems with lilypond and lion?

2011-12-20 Thread Alberto Simões

Hello

I am using lion and having some trouble with Lilypond.

When I run it using the application icon under Applications, I get:


LilyPond Error
An unexpected error has occurred during execution of the main script

ImportError: 
dlopen(/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload/objc/_objc.so, 
2): Symbol not found: _objc_sync_notify
  Referenced from: 
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload/objc/_objc.so

  Expected in: /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib


I usually run lilypond from the command line, and with Leopard, I had 
the following alias:


lilypond='DYLD_FALLBACK_LIBRARY_PATH= 
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond'


and it worked fine. With the new version, I get this other, different, 
error:



dyld: Library not loaded: @executable_path/../lib//libstdc++.6.dylib
  Referenced from: 
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond

  Reason: image not found
Trace/BPT trap: 5


Any hint? Anything I can do to solve this issue? Or the way to go is 
to.. argh... compile it?


Thank you,
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Re: Problems with lilypond and lion?

2011-12-20 Thread James
Hello,

2011/12/20 Alberto Simões :
> Hello
>
> I am using lion and having some trouble with Lilypond.

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1943

Also see

http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=commitdiff;h=0112614184685258f1d6dc86230b8d0044dd4cac

This will eventually make it to the website.

There is no solution at this time for Lion I believe.

regards

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Re: Problems with lilypond and lion?

2011-12-20 Thread Alberto Simões



On 12/20/11 18:54 , James wrote:

Hello,

2011/12/20 Alberto Simões:

Hello

I am using lion and having some trouble with Lilypond.


http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1943

Also see

http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=commitdiff;h=0112614184685258f1d6dc86230b8d0044dd4cac

This will eventually make it to the website.

There is no solution at this time for Lion I believe.


This might help somebody.
Install the app, use

alias lilypond='DYLD_FALLBACK_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib 
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond'


and use lilypond in the command line.

\o/

For me, enough for now!

Thanks
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Re: Taking the old website down

2011-12-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 06:13:42PM +, Alberto Simões wrote:
> As a suggestion, please delete the web page that answers to:
> 
> http://lilypond.org/web/install/
> 
> or add a redirect there.

This has been in the tracker for over a year.
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1163
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1272

If you're not offering patches to fix them, don't complain about
known issues.

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Re: Problems with lilypond and lion?

2011-12-20 Thread James
Hello,

2011/12/20 Alberto Simões :
>
>
> On 12/20/11 18:54 , James wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> 2011/12/20 Alberto Simões:
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> I am using lion and having some trouble with Lilypond.
>>
>>
>> http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1943
>>
>> Also see
>>
>>
>> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=commitdiff;h=0112614184685258f1d6dc86230b8d0044dd4cac
>>
>> This will eventually make it to the website.
>>
>> There is no solution at this time for Lion I believe.
>
>
> This might help somebody.
> Install the app, use
>
> alias lilypond='DYLD_FALLBACK_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib
> /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond'
>
> and use lilypond in the command line.
>
> \o/
>

Thanks Alberto.

If someone else could verify this (nice to get a second or third
opinion) then perhaps this could be added to
Documentation/web/download.itexi until we fix it or maybe added to the
tracker - I don't want to make more noise on that if I can help it.

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Re: Taking the old website down

2011-12-20 Thread Alberto Simões



On 12/20/11 18:59 , Graham Percival wrote:

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 06:13:42PM +, Alberto Simões wrote:

As a suggestion, please delete the web page that answers to:

http://lilypond.org/web/install/

or add a redirect there.


This has been in the tracker for over a year.
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1163
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1272

If you're not offering patches to fix them, don't complain about
known issues.


I would offer to fix it, as it should be trivial to rewrite the 
index.{whatever} in that folder for a redirect (and do the same for 
other folders).


But after this answer, I think you do not want any help, just do not 
want people complaining.


Cheers
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Re: Taking the old website down

2011-12-20 Thread James
Alberto

2011/12/20 Alberto Simões :
>
>
> On 12/20/11 18:59 , Graham Percival wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 06:13:42PM +, Alberto Simões wrote:
>>>
>>> As a suggestion, please delete the web page that answers to:
>>>
>>> http://lilypond.org/web/install/
>>>
>>> or add a redirect there.
>>
>>
>> This has been in the tracker for over a year.
>> http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1163
>> http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1272
>>
>> If you're not offering patches to fix them, don't complain about
>> known issues.
>
>
> I would offer to fix it, as it should be trivial to rewrite the
> index.{whatever} in that folder for a redirect (and do the same for other
> folders).
>
> But after this answer, I think you do not want any help, just do not want
> people complaining.

Aww...

Go on fix it for us

:.. )


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Re: Problems with lilypond and lion?

2011-12-20 Thread Hans Aberg
On 20 Dec 2011, at 20:00, James wrote:

> If someone else could verify this (nice to get a second or third
> opinion) then perhaps this could be added to
> Documentation/web/download.itexi until we fix it or maybe added to the
> tracker - I don't want to make more noise on that if I can help it.

LilyPond 2.15.22 works in the OS X 10.7.2 GUI. From Terminal, I use a script 
~/bin/lilypond:
  exec /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond "$@"
On OS X 10.7 /usr/local/bin/ is in the path, so one can put the script there.

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Re: Problems with lilypond and lion?

2011-12-20 Thread Alberto Simões



On 12/20/11 19:46 , Hans Aberg wrote:

On 20 Dec 2011, at 20:00, James wrote:


If someone else could verify this (nice to get a second or third
opinion) then perhaps this could be added to
Documentation/web/download.itexi until we fix it or maybe added to the
tracker - I don't want to make more noise on that if I can help it.


LilyPond 2.15.22 works in the OS X 10.7.2 GUI. From Terminal, I use a script 
~/bin/lilypond:
   exec /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond "$@"
On OS X 10.7 /usr/local/bin/ is in the path, so one can put the script there.


Hey, Hans

Did you install it by hand or downloaded the binary package?

Thank you
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Re: Problems with lilypond and lion?

2011-12-20 Thread Hans Aberg
On 20 Dec 2011, at 20:49, Alberto Simões wrote:

>>> If someone else could verify this (nice to get a second or third
>>> opinion) then perhaps this could be added to
>>> Documentation/web/download.itexi until we fix it or maybe added to the
>>> tracker - I don't want to make more noise on that if I can help it.
>> 
>> LilyPond 2.15.22 works in the OS X 10.7.2 GUI. From Terminal, I use a script 
>> ~/bin/lilypond:
>>   exec /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond "$@"
>> On OS X 10.7 /usr/local/bin/ is in the path, so one can put the script there.

> Did you install it by hand or downloaded the binary package?

The binary at
  http://lilypond.org/development.html
I think the issue was fixed some months ago.

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Re: Problems with lilypond and lion?

2011-12-20 Thread Alberto Simões



On 12/20/11 19:54 , Hans Aberg wrote:

On 20 Dec 2011, at 20:49, Alberto Simões wrote:


If someone else could verify this (nice to get a second or third
opinion) then perhaps this could be added to
Documentation/web/download.itexi until we fix it or maybe added to the
tracker - I don't want to make more noise on that if I can help it.


LilyPond 2.15.22 works in the OS X 10.7.2 GUI. From Terminal, I use a script 
~/bin/lilypond:
   exec /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond "$@"
On OS X 10.7 /usr/local/bin/ is in the path, so one can put the script there.



Did you install it by hand or downloaded the binary package?


The binary at
   http://lilypond.org/development.html
I think the issue was fixed some months ago.


Hmms, ok, devel vs 2.14.x.
Will try and report.

be right back.

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Re: Problems with lilypond and lion?

2011-12-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 08:54:04PM +0100, Hans Aberg wrote:
> >> LilyPond 2.15.22 works in the OS X 10.7.2 GUI. From Terminal, I use a 
> >> script ~/bin/lilypond:
> >>   exec /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond "$@"
> >> On OS X 10.7 /usr/local/bin/ is in the path, so one can put the script 
> >> there.
> 
> > Did you install it by hand or downloaded the binary package?
> 
> The binary at
>   http://lilypond.org/development.html
> I think the issue was fixed some months ago.

Those interested in lilypond on osx should read this:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1943
(note: the title should maybe be changed to "on ppc macs", or
maybe not, I'm not really certain)

As far as the web page goes:
- lilypond 2.14 is the stable version.  That does not work on
  10.7.  End of story.
  The website did not rebuild when I added a warning to this
  effect, but I've manually rebuilt it now:
http://lilypond.org/macos-x.html
- normal users will *not* be direct to the unstable development
  version, which in any case may or may not work on any given
  architecture or osx version.

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: Problems with lilypond and lion?

2011-12-20 Thread Alberto Simões



On 12/20/11 19:55 , Alberto Simões wrote:



On 12/20/11 19:54 , Hans Aberg wrote:

On 20 Dec 2011, at 20:49, Alberto Simões wrote:


If someone else could verify this (nice to get a second or third
opinion) then perhaps this could be added to
Documentation/web/download.itexi until we fix it or maybe added to the
tracker - I don't want to make more noise on that if I can help it.


LilyPond 2.15.22 works in the OS X 10.7.2 GUI. From Terminal, I use
a script ~/bin/lilypond:
exec /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond "$@"
On OS X 10.7 /usr/local/bin/ is in the path, so one can put the
script there.



Did you install it by hand or downloaded the binary package?


The binary at
http://lilypond.org/development.html
I think the issue was fixed some months ago.


Hmms, ok, devel vs 2.14.x.


downloaded 2.15.22
GUI seems to work
  (although about says 2.14, is this normal? probably yes)

command line still not good:
[ambs@stravinski ~]$ 
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond

dyld: Library not loaded: @executable_path/../lib//libstdc++.6.dylib
  Referenced from: 
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond

  Reason: image not found
Trace/BPT trap: 5

Hans, any change on sending my your 'env'? or 'env | grep DYLD'

Thank you
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Re: Problems with lilypond and lion?

2011-12-20 Thread Hans Aberg
On 20 Dec 2011, at 21:01, Graham Percival wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 08:54:04PM +0100, Hans Aberg wrote:
 LilyPond 2.15.22 works in the OS X 10.7.2 GUI. From Terminal, I use a 
 script ~/bin/lilypond:
  exec /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond "$@"
 On OS X 10.7 /usr/local/bin/ is in the path, so one can put the script 
 there.
>> 
>>> Did you install it by hand or downloaded the binary package?
>> 
>> The binary at
>>  http://lilypond.org/development.html
>> I think the issue was fixed some months ago.
> 
> Those interested in lilypond on osx should read this:
> http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1943
> (note: the title should maybe be changed to "on ppc macs", or
> maybe not, I'm not really certain)

The page is for Mac OS X 10.5.8; 10.5 was the last that ran on both PPC & 
Intel. On 10.6, one can still run a PPC binary using the Rosetta interpreter, 
but that is not possible in 10.7.

For OS 10.7, there was a development version that didn't run, but it was fixed.

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Re: Problems with lilypond and lion?

2011-12-20 Thread Alberto Simões


Hey,

The note

"MacOS X 10.7 Lion is not yet supported."

in

http://lilypond.org/macos-x.html

should be removed from the PPC version, as there isn't a PPC version of 
Lion. So, PPC users will never worry about this problem.


Cheers

On 12/20/11 20:02 , Alberto Simões wrote:



On 12/20/11 19:55 , Alberto Simões wrote:



On 12/20/11 19:54 , Hans Aberg wrote:

On 20 Dec 2011, at 20:49, Alberto Simões wrote:


If someone else could verify this (nice to get a second or third
opinion) then perhaps this could be added to
Documentation/web/download.itexi until we fix it or maybe added to
the
tracker - I don't want to make more noise on that if I can help it.


LilyPond 2.15.22 works in the OS X 10.7.2 GUI. From Terminal, I use
a script ~/bin/lilypond:
exec /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond "$@"
On OS X 10.7 /usr/local/bin/ is in the path, so one can put the
script there.



Did you install it by hand or downloaded the binary package?


The binary at
http://lilypond.org/development.html
I think the issue was fixed some months ago.


Hmms, ok, devel vs 2.14.x.


downloaded 2.15.22
GUI seems to work
(although about says 2.14, is this normal? probably yes)

command line still not good:
[ambs@stravinski ~]$
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond
dyld: Library not loaded: @executable_path/../lib//libstdc++.6.dylib
Referenced from: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond
Reason: image not found
Trace/BPT trap: 5

Hans, any change on sending my your 'env'? or 'env | grep DYLD'

Thank you
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Re: Problems with lilypond and lion?

2011-12-20 Thread Hans Aberg
On 20 Dec 2011, at 21:50, Alberto Simões wrote:

> The note
> 
> "MacOS X 10.7 Lion is not yet supported."
> 
> in
> 
> http://lilypond.org/macos-x.html
> 
> should be removed from the PPC version, as there isn't a PPC version of Lion. 
> So, PPC users will never worry about this problem.

Nor is there for 10.6, though it can PPC binaries using Rosetta.

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Re: Problems with lilypond and lion?

2011-12-20 Thread Hans Aberg
On 20 Dec 2011, at 21:02, Alberto Simões wrote:

 Did you install it by hand or downloaded the binary package?
>>> 
>>> The binary at
>>> http://lilypond.org/development.html
>>> I think the issue was fixed some months ago.
>> 
>> Hmms, ok, devel vs 2.14.x.
> 
> downloaded 2.15.22
> GUI seems to work
>  (although about says 2.14, is this normal? probably yes)

No, it is a bug.

> command line still not good:
> [ambs@stravinski ~]$ 
> /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond
> dyld: Library not loaded: @executable_path/../lib//libstdc++.6.dylib
>  Referenced from: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond
>  Reason: image not found
> Trace/BPT trap: 5
> 
> Hans, any change on sending my your 'env'? or 'env | grep DYLD'

It works in the OS X 10.7.2 default environment. (And I have not set the DYLD 
environmental variable.)

So check
$ ls -l /usr/lib/libstdc++*.dylib
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1595728 Nov  2 21:20 /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.0.9.dylib
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   21 Nov  2 21:22 /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib -> 
libstdc++.6.0.9.dylib
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   17 Nov  2 21:22 /usr/lib/libstdc++.dylib -> 
libstdc++.6.dylib

If you do not have that, it means that the library came with Xcode 4.2.1. Then 
LilyPond.app probably should include this in the distribution.

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Re: Problems with lilypond and lion?

2011-12-20 Thread Alberto Simões



On 12/20/11 22:06 , Hans Aberg wrote:

On 20 Dec 2011, at 21:02, Alberto Simões wrote:


Did you install it by hand or downloaded the binary package?


The binary at
http://lilypond.org/development.html
I think the issue was fixed some months ago.


Hmms, ok, devel vs 2.14.x.


downloaded 2.15.22
GUI seems to work
  (although about says 2.14, is this normal? probably yes)


No, it is a bug.


command line still not good:
[ambs@stravinski ~]$ /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond
dyld: Library not loaded: @executable_path/../lib//libstdc++.6.dylib
  Referenced from: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond
  Reason: image not found
Trace/BPT trap: 5

Hans, any change on sending my your 'env'? or 'env | grep DYLD'


It works in the OS X 10.7.2 default environment. (And I have not set the DYLD 
environmental variable.)

So check
$ ls -l /usr/lib/libstdc++*.dylib
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1595728 Nov  2 21:20 /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.0.9.dylib
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   21 Nov  2 21:22 /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib ->  
libstdc++.6.0.9.dylib
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   17 Nov  2 21:22 /usr/lib/libstdc++.dylib ->  
libstdc++.6.dylib


I have them, but the error above specifies a specific path, where 
libstdc++ is not (that the reason I've set DYLD_FAILBACK_LIBRARY_PATH 
(and it works).


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Re: Problems with lilypond and lion?

2011-12-20 Thread Hans Aberg
On 20 Dec 2011, at 23:08, Alberto Simões wrote:

>>> command line still not good:
>>> [ambs@stravinski ~]$ 
>>> /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond
>>> dyld: Library not loaded: @executable_path/../lib//libstdc++.6.dylib
>>>  Referenced from: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond
>>>  Reason: image not found
>>> Trace/BPT trap: 5
>>> 
>>> Hans, any change on sending my your 'env'? or 'env | grep DYLD'
>> 
>> It works in the OS X 10.7.2 default environment. (And I have not set the 
>> DYLD environmental variable.)
>> 
>> So check
>> $ ls -l /usr/lib/libstdc++*.dylib
>> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1595728 Nov  2 21:20 
>> /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.0.9.dylib
>> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   21 Nov  2 21:22 /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib 
>> ->  libstdc++.6.0.9.dylib
>> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   17 Nov  2 21:22 /usr/lib/libstdc++.dylib ->  
>> libstdc++.6.dylib
> 
> I have them, but the error above specifies a specific path, where libstdc++ 
> is not (that the reason I've set DYLD_FAILBACK_LIBRARY_PATH (and it works).

I have not set any DYLD-environment variable.

Try
  $ mv ~/.profile ~/.profile.bkp
Open new Terminal tab or window
  $ /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond 
where  is a LilyPond .ly file.

Don't forget
  $ mv ~/.profile.bkp ~/.profile

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Re: Problems with lilypond and lion?

2011-12-20 Thread Alberto Simões



On 12/20/11 22:25 , Hans Aberg wrote:

On 20 Dec 2011, at 23:08, Alberto Simões wrote:


command line still not good:
[ambs@stravinski ~]$ /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond
dyld: Library not loaded: @executable_path/../lib//libstdc++.6.dylib
  Referenced from: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond
  Reason: image not found
Trace/BPT trap: 5

Hans, any change on sending my your 'env'? or 'env | grep DYLD'


It works in the OS X 10.7.2 default environment. (And I have not set the DYLD 
environmental variable.)

So check
$ ls -l /usr/lib/libstdc++*.dylib
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1595728 Nov  2 21:20 /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.0.9.dylib
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   21 Nov  2 21:22 /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib ->   
libstdc++.6.0.9.dylib
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   17 Nov  2 21:22 /usr/lib/libstdc++.dylib ->   
libstdc++.6.dylib


I have them, but the error above specifies a specific path, where libstdc++ is 
not (that the reason I've set DYLD_FAILBACK_LIBRARY_PATH (and it works).


I have not set any DYLD-environment variable.

Try
   $ mv ~/.profile ~/.profile.bkp
Open new Terminal tab or window
   $ /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond
where  is a LilyPond .ly file.

Don't forget
   $ mv ~/.profile.bkp ~/.profile



Hmmms, good point. This means that even 2.14 works on Lion if you use 
command line. Probably that should be updated in the webpage, instead of 
just pushing users around.


Now will try to figure out what are the variables I have that are making 
this not to work :)


Thanks, Hans!

Alberto

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Re: Problems with lilypond and lion?

2011-12-20 Thread Hans Aberg
On 20 Dec 2011, at 23:29, Alberto Simões wrote:

 It works in the OS X 10.7.2 default environment. (And I have not set the 
 DYLD environmental variable.)
 
 So check
 $ ls -l /usr/lib/libstdc++*.dylib
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1595728 Nov  2 21:20 
 /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.0.9.dylib
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   21 Nov  2 21:22 /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib 
 ->   libstdc++.6.0.9.dylib
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   17 Nov  2 21:22 /usr/lib/libstdc++.dylib 
 ->   libstdc++.6.dylib
>>> 
>>> I have them, but the error above specifies a specific path, where libstdc++ 
>>> is not (that the reason I've set DYLD_FAILBACK_LIBRARY_PATH (and it works).
>> 
>> I have not set any DYLD-environment variable.
>> 
>> Try
>>   $ mv ~/.profile ~/.profile.bkp
>> Open new Terminal tab or window
>>   $ /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond
>> where  is a LilyPond .ly file.
>> 
>> Don't forget
>>   $ mv ~/.profile.bkp ~/.profile
>> 
> 
> Hmmms, good point. This means that even 2.14 works on Lion if you use command 
> line. Probably that should be updated in the webpage, instead of just pushing 
> users around.

I have just used LilyPond from Terminal, and an editor, Xcode, though there are 
more LilyPond aware alternatives. The script I use (as mentioned before) is
  exec /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond "$@"
On OS X 10.7, one can put it in /usr/local/bin/, as it is in the default PATH, 
though I have mine in ~/bin/.

> Now will try to figure out what are the variables I have that are making this 
> not to work :)
> 
> Thanks, Hans!

You are welcome.

Hans



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Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 1.9.5, last beta before 2.0.0

2011-12-20 Thread Phil Hézaine

Le 20/12/2011 11:15, Wilbert Berendsen a écrit :

Hi all,

Frescobaldi 1.9.5 has been released


 [...]


Download:
https://github.com/downloads/wbsoft/frescobaldi/frescobaldi-1.9.5.tar.gz

Please test and enjoy; if no big bugs will be found, this will become
2.0.0 on December 26th, 2011.



Hi,

So far no problems.
Installed on Gentoo with Python 2.7,
in /usr/local with python-poppler-qt4-0.16.2
I haven't tried the MIDI yet. I'm really unwilling about portmidi which 
is not in the tree of Portage. I have to install an overlay + this "java 
thing" I don't like very much. Is there a hope of using Timidity 
straightforward?

Never mind about that , the midifile is always compiled in any case.
Many thanks for your work. It's beautiful and very useful.
Ah, and the point-on-click... Brilliant.

Thanks again and merry Christmas.
Phil.

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Re: Taking the old website down

2011-12-20 Thread Tim McNamara

On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:25 PM, James wrote:

> Alberto
> 
> 2011/12/20 Alberto Simões :
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/20/11 18:59 , Graham Percival wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 06:13:42PM +, Alberto Simões wrote:
 
 As a suggestion, please delete the web page that answers to:
 
 http://lilypond.org/web/install/
 
 or add a redirect there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This has been in the tracker for over a year.
>>> http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1163
>>> http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1272
>>> 
>>> If you're not offering patches to fix them, don't complain about
>>> known issues.
>> 
>> 
>> I would offer to fix it, as it should be trivial to rewrite the
>> index.{whatever} in that folder for a redirect (and do the same for other
>> folders).
>> 
>> But after this answer, I think you do not want any help, just do not want
>> people complaining.
> 
> Aww...
> 
> Go on fix it for us
> 
> :.. )

Actually it looks like the whole lilypond.org/web/* is out of date and 
deprecated; is there actually a reason to risk confusing potential users of 
Lilypond?



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Can a dynamics mark ignore a slur?

2011-12-20 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
Based on the properties in the Internals Reference, it appears that
dynamics can be set to ignore slurs. I've seen it done successfully
with articulation marks, but my attempt with dynamics is failing. In
my test case, I want both p's to be close to the staff, but the second
one is displaced by the slur:

\version "2.15.21"

#(ly:set-option 'debug-skylines #t)

\relative c'' {
  \override DynamicLineSpanner #'avoid-slur = #'ignore
  \override DynamicTextSpanner #'avoid-slur = #'ignore
  \override DynamicText #'avoid-slur = #'ignore
  a\p f g e f d a g
  a'(\p f g e f d a g)
}


Motivation: LilyPond draws very nice slurs, but it places them in
rectangular boxes that push other elements far away. I don't want to
resort to an extra y-offset because the offset distance will be
different in the full score than in the parts (the slur goes over a
line break in the full score).

Any tips? Am I missing something?

Andrew
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modifying chordNameSeparator behavior

2011-12-20 Thread Shevek

I'd like to get Lilypond's chord symbols to appear more "Real Book" like.
Part of that style involves not putting a slash between the basic suffix of
a chord and its alterations. So far so good, as I can just set
chordNameSeparator to \markup\null. The trouble is that doing that removes
the slash before an alternate bass note, which I want to keep. Is there a
way to remove the slash before an alteration without removing the slash
before an alternate bass note?
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Re: Taking the old website down

2011-12-20 Thread James
Hello,

On 21 December 2011 00:05, Tim McNamara  wrote:
>
> On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:25 PM, James wrote:
>
>> Alberto
>>
>> 2011/12/20 Alberto Simões :
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/20/11 18:59 , Graham Percival wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 06:13:42PM +, Alberto Simões wrote:
>
> As a suggestion, please delete the web page that answers to:
>
> http://lilypond.org/web/install/
>
> or add a redirect there.


 This has been in the tracker for over a year.
 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1163
 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1272

 If you're not offering patches to fix them, don't complain about
 known issues.
>>>
>>>
>>> I would offer to fix it, as it should be trivial to rewrite the
>>> index.{whatever} in that folder for a redirect (and do the same for other
>>> folders).
>>>
>>> But after this answer, I think you do not want any help, just do not want
>>> people complaining.
>>
>> Aww...
>>
>> Go on fix it for us
>>
>> :.. )
>
> Actually it looks like the whole lilypond.org/web/* is out of date and 
> deprecated; is there actually a reason to risk confusing potential users of 
> Lilypond?
>

Well yes if you read the bug trackers.

In a nutshell (and with my limited knowledge) the website is built not
by humans but by machine (so to speak) at least a large chunk is
anyway; so you have to make sure you are not going to break something
when the 'scripts' that build the website no longer find that
directory that 'you' have just moved or the file you have just edited
no longer references a .png and now the whole website is broken.

It isn't just someone poking about with some HTML code in a text
editor - at least from doing documentation for LP that's as I have
come to understand it.

As it says here:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/introduction-to-website-work

'The website is not written directly in HTML; instead, the source is
Texinfo, which is then
generated into HTML, PDF, and Info formats.

As has been said, any help is welcome and there are people on the
lists who can help or advise to those that want to help.

Take a look:

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list?can=2&q=website&colspec=ID&groupby=&sort=priority&x=type&y=priority&cells=tiles&mode=grid

Lots to do :)



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