Re: beaming in 2.13 - other question
On 1/9/11 4:02 AM, Carl Sorensen wrote:
On 1/8/11 5:08 PM, "Peter Van Kranenburg"
wrote:
Dear all,
Consider the following example (adapted from the manual):
\version "2.13.44"
\relative c'' {
\time 3/16
\set Timing.beatStructure = #'(2 1)
\set Timing.beamExceptions =
#'( ;start of alist
(end . ;entry for end of beams
( ;start of alist of end points
((1 . 32) . (6)) ;rule for 1/32 beams
))) %close all entries
c16 c c |
c32 c c c c c |
c32 c c c c16 |
}
In the third bar, the 16th is connected to the 32s, while the rule for
16th's says that the third sixteenth should be unbeamed.
There's a conflict between your understanding and the rules. A beam with 4
1/32 notes and 1 1/16 note is a 1/32 beam, so it's doing exactly what it is
supposed to do. It's beaming it in 6/32, which is what you've asked it to
do.
Ok. I understand. Thank you for the explanation.
As far as I know, it doesn't make much musical sense to do what you're
asking for, so having it not work in autobeaming doesn't seem to be too much
of a problem.
My aim was to group 8th notes in a 6/8 meter as (2 1 2 1), which
corresponds to the desired articulation, but in the same score I want
the 16th grouped as (6 6) instead of (4 2 4 2). As I understand it now,
this is impossible without manual beaming.
For the score I'm working on it's not crucial. It just would have been
nice.
Best,
Peter
If you want this to work, you'll need to do manual beaming.
Thanks,
Carl
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Spurious Repeat Symbol
How can I get rid of the extra repeat symbol in this example? I'm sure it is
caused by the rest at the beginning of the repeat. I've tried hiding an
extra note along with a skip, but I can't figure out how to do this and get
the rest back.
Ted
%%% Begin example.
\version "2.12.0"
melody = \relative c' {
c4 d e f
\repeat volta 2 {
r c d e
} \alternative {
{ f1 }
{ g1 }
}
}
words = \lyricmode {
do re mi fa
\repeat volta 2
{
do re me
} \alternative {
{ fa } { sol }
}
}
\score {
<<
\new Staff { \melody }
\addlyrics { \words }
>>
}
%%% End example.
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Re: Spurious Repeat Symbol
Hi Ted
You don't want the \repeat info inside the lyrics, just remove it:
words = \lyricmode {
do re mi fa
do re me
fa sol
}
Jakob.
2011/1/9 Ted Stanion :
> How can I get rid of the extra repeat symbol in this example? I'm sure it is
> caused by the rest at the beginning of the repeat. I've tried hiding an
> extra note along with a skip, but I can't figure out how to do this and get
> the rest back.
> Ted
> %%% Begin example.
> \version "2.12.0"
> melody = \relative c' {
> c4 d e f
> \repeat volta 2 {
> r c d e
> } \alternative {
> { f1 }
> { g1 }
> }
> }
> words = \lyricmode {
> do re mi fa
> \repeat volta 2
> {
> do re me
> } \alternative {
> { fa } { sol }
> }
> }
> \score {
> <<
> \new Staff { \melody }
> \addlyrics { \words }
> >>
> }
> %%% End example.
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Re: Spurious Repeat Symbol
On 2011-01-09 21:03, Ted Stanion wrote:
> How can I get rid of the extra repeat symbol in this example? I'm sure
> it is caused by the rest at the beginning of the repeat. I've tried
> hiding an extra note along with a skip, but I can't figure out how to do
> this and get the rest back. [...]
>
> melody = \relative c' {
> c4 d e f
> \repeat volta 2 {
>r c d e
> } [...]
> words = \lyricmode {
> do re mi fa
> \repeat volta 2
> {
> do re me
> } [...]
Hi, Ted,
the repeat in the lyrics causes an additional repeat at the point of the
first syllable inside the repeat construct. As you noticed, this causes
problems when the repeat starts with a rest, because the syllable comes
later, and I guess there's not much to do about that.
I can see no easy way to overcome this but to leave out the \repeat
construct in the lyrics entirely. It may come to a surprise, but the
repeat does not really add anything but the repeat barlines and volta
brackets [*], and usually it's enough to do this at one point per score
(as long as you have common barlines per score, as normal, and not per
staff). Any additional calls only ease you the orientation in your
source file.
[*] This is not entirely true; they encapsulate the logical structure of
the piece and music snippets, and can be useful for MIDI output via
unfoldRepeats. If you don't need them there (very unlikely), just
ignore the issue; otherwise, you probably should use \tag to have the
repeat for MIDI only.
HTH,
Alexander
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