Re: indent.py has vanished?!
On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 02:33:01PM -0800, -Eluze wrote: > > howsoever it would be nice to have such a program released by Lilypond! This is a known request. I think it's number 700-something or 900-something in the issue tracker. If you're interested, look for it and read the past discussion. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Problem with ragged-last and verse numbers
- Original Message - From: "eluze" To: ; "Phil Holmes" Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 12:13 PM Subject: Re: Problem with ragged-last and verse numbers Am 02.12.2010, 12:38 Uhr, schrieb Phil Holmes : OK. I think I've got this sorted out. You can (as a general rule) put the "ragged" commands inside either a \layout block, or a \paper block - or both. However, if you use a \layout block, this over-rides the settings from the \paper block, which therefore have no effect. gregorian.ly contains the line "ragged-last = ##t" in a \layout block - therefore setting this to false in a \paper block has no effect. Setting any other ragged setting in a \paper block will work. So to make ragged-last false, the \layout command in gregorian.ly has to be over-ridden with "ragged-last = ##t" in a \layout block in the source file - after the \include. Pretty certain that's right. Phew. Not sure why it works like this, though. -- Phil Holmes nice explanation, Whew! so to re-establish the compliance with the general rules, ragged-last should be put in a \paper block in gregorian.ly, with - as you mention - the small constraint to use it after the \include! I think it would be better to put it in a \paper block in gregorian.ly, since this could then be over-ridden by either \paper or \layout in the lilyPond file. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Problem with ragged-last and verse numbers
Am 02.12.2010, 12:38 Uhr, schrieb Phil Holmes : - Original Message - From: "eluze" To: ; "Phil Holmes" Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:39 AM Subject: Re: Problem with ragged-last and verse numbers Am 02.12.2010, 09:40 Uhr, schrieb Phil Holmes : - Original Message - However, ragged-right and ragged-last still work in exactly the same way. See new attachments. -- Phil Holmes in your examples - yes. but the problem came up with a score written in gregorian style and that's where it happens! just add \include "gregorian.ly" to see it: ragged-last in the \paper has no effect, whereas in a \layout block it works! Eluze OK. I think I've got this sorted out. You can (as a general rule) put the "ragged" commands inside either a \layout block, or a \paper block - or both. However, if you use a \layout block, this over-rides the settings from the \paper block, which therefore have no effect. gregorian.ly contains the line "ragged-last = ##t" in a \layout block - therefore setting this to false in a \paper block has no effect. Setting any other ragged setting in a \paper block will work. So to make ragged-last false, the \layout command in gregorian.ly has to be over-ridden with "ragged-last = ##t" in a \layout block in the source file - after the \include. Pretty certain that's right. Phew. Not sure why it works like this, though. -- Phil Holmes nice explanation, Whew! so to re-establish the compliance with the general rules, ragged-last should be put in a \paper block in gregorian.ly, with - as you mention - the small constraint to use it after the \include! thanks! Eluze ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: indent.py has vanished?!
On 02/12/2010 09:02, Graham Percival wrote: This is a known request. I think it's number 700-something or 900-something in the issue tracker. If you're interested, look for it and read the past discussion. http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=777 james ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Problem with ragged-last and verse numbers
- Original Message - From: "eluze" To: ; "Phil Holmes" Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:39 AM Subject: Re: Problem with ragged-last and verse numbers Am 02.12.2010, 09:40 Uhr, schrieb Phil Holmes : - Original Message - However, ragged-right and ragged-last still work in exactly the same way. See new attachments. -- Phil Holmes in your examples - yes. but the problem came up with a score written in gregorian style and that's where it happens! just add \include "gregorian.ly" to see it: ragged-last in the \paper has no effect, whereas in a \layout block it works! Eluze OK. I think I've got this sorted out. You can (as a general rule) put the "ragged" commands inside either a \layout block, or a \paper block - or both. However, if you use a \layout block, this over-rides the settings from the \paper block, which therefore have no effect. gregorian.ly contains the line "ragged-last = ##t" in a \layout block - therefore setting this to false in a \paper block has no effect. Setting any other ragged setting in a \paper block will work. So to make ragged-last false, the \layout command in gregorian.ly has to be over-ridden with "ragged-last = ##t" in a \layout block in the source file - after the \include. Pretty certain that's right. Phew. Not sure why it works like this, though. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
lilypond mentioned on heise.de
Hi, just wanted to inform you that lilypond is mentioned onthe german it-news portal heise.de http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Suesser-die-Glocken-nie-klingen-ohne-Lizenzabgabe-1145659.html regards rene brandenburger ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Problem with ragged-last and verse numbers
Am 02.12.2010, 09:40 Uhr, schrieb Phil Holmes : - Original Message - However, ragged-right and ragged-last still work in exactly the same way. See new attachments. -- Phil Holmes in your examples - yes. but the problem came up with a score written in gregorian style and that's where it happens! just add \include "gregorian.ly" to see it: ragged-last in the \paper has no effect, whereas in a \layout block it works! Eluze ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Problem with ragged-last and verse numbers : Slight Return
Hello Athanasius,
I removed the hidden notes ... then I changed the verse-number-function:
verseNumber = #(define-music-function (parser location number name
shortname) (string? string? string?)
#{
\set stanza = \markup \smaller \italic $number
\set vocalName = \markup $name
% same markup as stanza
\set shortVocalName = \markup \smaller $shortname
\override InstrumentName #'font-series = #'bold
\override InstrumentName #'font-shape = #'italic
\override InstrumentName #'font-size= #'0.1
\override InstrumentName #'self-alignment-X = #LEFT
% shift numbers to the left
\override InstrumentName #'X-offset = #-1.5
#})
Now the numbers are all of equal size (same markup for stanza and
shortVocalName) and the numbers a shiftet left.
Regards,
Jan-Peter
On 02.12.2010 05:29, Athanasius wrote:
Eluze or whoever,
So I have added a hidden note, otherwise the verse text was over the verse
numbers. Is there a way to modify the verse numbers, first, to match the
size of the ones on top and also to maybe move them to the left a little
bit? Below is the modified file. (is there stuff in the verseNumber
section that I don't need?)
\version "2.13.35"
\include "gregorian.ly"
\header {
subtitle = "Veni Creator Spiritus"
% Remove default LilyPond tagline
tagline = ##f
}
\paper{
paper-width=5.5\in
}
verseNumber = #(define-music-function (parser location number name
shortname) (string? string? string?)
#{
\set stanza = \markup \smaller \italic $number
\set vocalName = \markup $name
\set shortVocalName = \markup \teeny $shortname
\override InstrumentName #'font-series = #'bold
\override InstrumentName #'font-shape = #'italic
\override InstrumentName #'font-size= #'0.1
\override InstrumentName #'self-alignment-X = #LEFT
\override InstrumentName #'X-offset = #3.2
#})
chant = \relative c' {
\key a \major
e4 fis e ( d) e fis (e) a b a2 \break \divisioMaior
\hideNotes e \unHideNotes
a4 e fis a b ( a) b cis b \break \divisioMaior
\hideNotes e \unHideNotes
a,4 b ( cis) a ( gis) fis ( e) a ( b) e, fis a2 \break \divisioMaior
\hideNotes e \unHideNotes
gis4 ( a) fis e (d) fis fis ( gis fis) e d e2 \divisioMaxima
\hideNotes e \unHideNotes
e4 ( fis e) d2 ( e) \finalis
}
verbaOne = \lyricmode {
\verseNumber #"1." #"" #"1."
Ve -- ni Cre -- á -- tor __ Spí -- ri -- tus,
"" men -- tes tu -- ó -- rum vi -- sí -- ta,
"" im -- ple __ su -- pér -- na __ grá -- ti -- a
"" quae tu cre -- á -- sti __ pé -- cto -- ra.
}
verbaTwo = \lyricmode {
\verseNumber #"2." #"" #"2."
Qui dí -- ce -- ris Pa -- rá -- cli -- tus,
"" al -- tís -- si -- mi do -- num De -- i,
"" fons vi -- vus, i -- gnis, ca -- ri -- tas,
"" et __ spi -- ri -- tá -- lis __ ún -- cti -- o.
}
verbaThree = \lyricmode {
\verseNumber #"3." #"" #"3."
Tu se -- pti -- fór -- mis __ mú -- ne -- re,
"" Dex -- trae De -- i tu __ dí -- gi -- tus,
"" Tu ri -- te pro -- mís -- sum Pa -- tris,
"" Ser -- mó -- ne __ di -- tans __ gút -- tu -- ra.
}
verbaFour = \lyricmode {
\verseNumber #"4." #"" #"4."
Ac -- cén -- de lu -- men sén -- si -- bus,
"" In -- fúnde a -- mó -- rem __ cór -- di -- bus,
"" In -- fír -- ma __ no -- stri __ cór -- po -- ris
"" Vir -- tú -- te __ fir -- mans __ pér -- pe -- ti.
}
verbaFive = \lyricmode {
\verseNumber #"5." #"" #"5."
Hos -- tem re -- pél -- las __ lón -- gi -- us,
"" pa -- cém -- que do -- nes __ pró -- ti -- nus;
"" Du -- ctó -- re sic __ te __ praé -- vi -- o,
"" Vi -- té -- mus __ o -- mne __ nó -- xi -- um.
}
verbaSix = \lyricmode {
\verseNumber #"6." #"" #"6."
Per te sci -- á -- mus __ da Pa -- trem,
"" No -- scá -- mus at -- que __ Fí -- li -- um,
"" Te u -- tri -- ús -- que __ Spí -- ri -- tum
"" Cre -- dá -- mus o -- mni __ tém -- po -- re.
}
verbaSeven = \lyricmode {
\verseNumber #"7." #"" #"7."
De -- o Pa -- tri sit __ gló -- ri -- a,
"" Et Fí -- li -- o qui~a mór -- tu -- is,
"" Sur -- ré -- xit, __ ac __ Pa -- rá -- cli -- to,
"" In __ sae -- cu -- ló -- rum __ saé -- cu -- la. A -- men. __
}
\score {
\new Staff { \chant }
\addlyrics { \verbaOne }
\addlyrics { \verbaTwo }
\addlyrics { \verbaThree }
\addlyrics { \verbaFour }
\addlyrics { \verbaFive }
\addlyrics { \verbaSix }
\addlyrics { \verbaSeven }
\layout {
ragged-last=##f
\context {
\Staff
\remove "Time_signature_engraver"
\remove "Bar_engraver"
\override Stem #'transparent = ##t
}
}
}
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Re: indent.py has vanished?!
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > This is a known request. I think it's number 700-something or > 900-something in the issue tracker. If you're interested, look > for it and read the past discussion. 777, to be precise: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=777 Cheers, Valentin. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
vim&Lilypond learning curve_jazzchord font_bars per line? 3 questions
I have some simple questions - can't find it in the manuals so far, because there's so much there. - is it easy to adapt fonts for chords? I like 'em bold, the way you often see in jazz sheets. - is it easy to control the amount of measures per line? I stick to 4 as rule of thumb as much as possible. - is the learning curve doable for a combination of vim and Lilypond? I'm new at both, and am 53, so don't have decades left to learn. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/vim-Lilypond-learning-curve_jazzchord-font_bars-per-line--3-questions-tp30357875p30357875.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: vim&Lilypond learning curve_jazzchord font_bars per line? 3 questions
On Dec 2, 2010, at 5:06 PM, LazyLew wrote: > > I have some simple questions - can't find it in the manuals so far, because > there's so much there. > > - is it easy to adapt fonts for chords? I like 'em bold, the way you often > see in jazz sheets. > - is it easy to control the amount of measures per line? I stick to 4 as > rule of thumb as much as possible. > - is the learning curve doable for a combination of vim and Lilypond? I'm > new at both, and am 53, so don't have decades left to learn. Hello! First, I would suggest you to read the learning manual. Not with the goal of actually typesetting anything, just to actually understand how lilypond works. Second, I would suggest you use a more easily accessible tool for typesetting your scores than vim. Some are mentioned on the tutorial page of the lilypond.org website under easier editing. i realize that I haven't answered your questions, but your questions may change once you've invested the bit of time it takes to actually read (rather than search or skim) the learning manual. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: vim&Lilypond learning curve_jazzchord font_bars per line? 3 questions
LzzyLew On 02/12/2010 17:17, James Bailey wrote: On Dec 2, 2010, at 5:06 PM, LazyLew wrote: I have some simple questions - can't find it in the manuals so far, because there's so much there. - is it easy to adapt fonts for chords? I like 'em bold, the way you often see in jazz sheets. - is it easy to control the amount of measures per line? I stick to 4 as rule of thumb as much as possible. - is the learning curve doable for a combination of vim and Lilypond? I'm new at both, and am 53, so don't have decades left to learn. Hello! First, I would suggest you to read the learning manual. Not with the goal of actually typesetting anything, just to actually understand how lilypond works. Second, I would suggest you use a more easily accessible tool for typesetting your scores than vim. Some are mentioned on the tutorial page of the lilypond.org website under easier editing. i realize that I haven't answered your questions, but your questions may change once you've invested the bit of time it takes to actually read (rather than search or skim) the learning manual. I absolutely concur with James' comments. But to specifically answer your questions. Yes. Yes. Yes, but there are better editors that will leave you more time to concentrate on the 'Pond than the editor. (another) James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: vim&Lilypond learning curve_jazzchord font_bars per line? 3 questions
On Dec 2, 2010, at 10:06 AM, LazyLew wrote: I have some simple questions - can't find it in the manuals so far, because there's so much there. - is it easy to adapt fonts for chords? I like 'em bold, the way you often see in jazz sheets. On a Mac anything with changing fonts seems to be very hard to get operational. But the default is pretty legible. I'm sure someone here can provide a tweak that will produce bold fonts for the chord names. - is it easy to control the amount of measures per line? I stick to 4 as rule of thumb as much as possible. I put a \break after every fourth bar in the melody. - is the learning curve doable for a combination of vim and Lilypond? I'm new at both, and am 53, so don't have decades left to learn. I belong to the other religion, the Church of Emacs. Vi(m) has its adherents, even though I can't understand it. But any plain text editor will do, so long as it will write ASCII text and let you save the file with a .ly extension. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Problem with ragged-last and verse numbers : Slight Return
Nice :) You're welcome!
Jan-Peter
Am 02.12.2010 um 15:13 schrieb "Br. Athanasius Pelletier" :
> Thanks for your help! I now have it exactly how I wanted it.
>
> Ath
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:20 AM, Jan-Peter Voigt wrote:
> Hello Athanasius,
>
> I removed the hidden notes ... then I changed the verse-number-function:
>
>
> verseNumber = #(define-music-function (parser location number name
>shortname) (string? string? string?)
> #{
>\set stanza = \markup \smaller \italic $number
>\set vocalName = \markup $name
> % same markup as stanza
>\set shortVocalName = \markup \smaller $shortname
>
>\override InstrumentName #'font-series = #'bold
>\override InstrumentName #'font-shape = #'italic
>\override InstrumentName #'font-size= #'0.1
>\override InstrumentName #'self-alignment-X = #LEFT
> % shift numbers to the left
>\override InstrumentName #'X-offset = #-1.5
> #})
>
> Now the numbers are all of equal size (same markup for stanza and
> shortVocalName) and the numbers a shiftet left.
>
> Regards,
> Jan-Peter
>
>
>
> On 02.12.2010 05:29, Athanasius wrote:
> Eluze or whoever,
>
> So I have added a hidden note, otherwise the verse text was over the verse
> numbers. Is there a way to modify the verse numbers, first, to match the
> size of the ones on top and also to maybe move them to the left a little
> bit? Below is the modified file. (is there stuff in the verseNumber
> section that I don't need?)
>
> \version "2.13.35"
>
> \include "gregorian.ly"
>
> \header {
> subtitle = "Veni Creator Spiritus"
> % Remove default LilyPond tagline
> tagline = ##f
> }
>
> \paper{
> paper-width=5.5\in
> }
>
> verseNumber = #(define-music-function (parser location number name
> shortname) (string? string? string?)
> #{
> \set stanza = \markup \smaller \italic $number
> \set vocalName = \markup $name
> \set shortVocalName = \markup \teeny $shortname
> \override InstrumentName #'font-series = #'bold
> \override InstrumentName #'font-shape = #'italic
> \override InstrumentName #'font-size= #'0.1
> \override InstrumentName #'self-alignment-X = #LEFT
> \override InstrumentName #'X-offset = #3.2
> #})
>
> chant = \relative c' {
> \key a \major
> e4 fis e ( d) e fis (e) a b a2 \break \divisioMaior
> \hideNotes e \unHideNotes
> a4 e fis a b ( a) b cis b \break \divisioMaior
> \hideNotes e \unHideNotes
> a,4 b ( cis) a ( gis) fis ( e) a ( b) e, fis a2 \break \divisioMaior
> \hideNotes e \unHideNotes
> gis4 ( a) fis e (d) fis fis ( gis fis) e d e2 \divisioMaxima
> \hideNotes e \unHideNotes
> e4 ( fis e) d2 ( e) \finalis
> }
>
> verbaOne = \lyricmode {
> \verseNumber #"1." #"" #"1."
> Ve -- ni Cre -- á -- tor __ Spí -- ri -- tus,
> "" men -- tes tu -- ó -- rum vi -- sí -- ta,
> "" im -- ple __ su -- pér -- na __ grá -- ti -- a
> "" quae tu cre -- á -- sti __ pé -- cto -- ra.
> }
>
> verbaTwo = \lyricmode {
> \verseNumber #"2." #"" #"2."
> Qui dí -- ce -- ris Pa -- rá -- cli -- tus,
> "" al -- tís -- si -- mi do -- num De -- i,
> "" fons vi -- vus, i -- gnis, ca -- ri -- tas,
> "" et __ spi -- ri -- tá -- lis __ ún -- cti -- o.
> }
>
> verbaThree = \lyricmode {
> \verseNumber #"3." #"" #"3."
> Tu se -- pti -- fór -- mis __ mú -- ne -- re,
> "" Dex -- trae De -- i tu __ dí -- gi -- tus,
> "" Tu ri -- te pro -- mís -- sum Pa -- tris,
> "" Ser -- mó -- ne __ di -- tans __ gút -- tu -- ra.
> }
>
> verbaFour = \lyricmode {
> \verseNumber #"4." #"" #"4."
> Ac -- cén -- de lu -- men sén -- si -- bus,
> "" In -- fúnde a -- mó -- rem __ cór -- di -- bus,
> "" In -- fír -- ma __ no -- stri __ cór -- po -- ris
> "" Vir -- tú -- te __ fir -- mans __ pér -- pe -- ti.
> }
>
> verbaFive = \lyricmode {
> \verseNumber #"5." #"" #"5."
> Hos -- tem re -- pél -- las __ lón -- gi -- us,
> "" pa -- cém -- que do -- nes __ pró -- ti -- nus;
> "" Du -- ctó -- re sic __ te __ praé -- vi -- o,
> "" Vi -- té -- mus __ o -- mne __ nó -- xi -- um.
> }
>
> verbaSix = \lyricmode {
> \verseNumber #"6." #"" #"6."
> Per te sci -- á -- mus __ da Pa -- trem,
> "" No -- scá -- mus at -- que __ Fí -- li -- um,
> "" Te u -- tri -- ús -- que __ Spí -- ri -- tum
> "" Cre -- dá -- mus o -- mni __ tém -- po -- re.
> }
>
> verbaSeven = \lyricmode {
> \verseNumber #"7." #"" #"7."
> De -- o Pa -- tri sit __ gló -- ri -- a,
> "" Et Fí -- li -- o qui~a mór -- tu -- is,
> "" Sur -- ré -- xit, __ ac __ Pa -- rá -- cli -- to,
> "" In __ sae -- cu -- ló -- rum __ saé -- cu -- la. A -- men. __
>
> }
>
> \score {
> \new Staff { \chant }
> \addlyrics { \verbaOne }
> \addlyrics { \verbaTwo }
> \addlyrics { \verbaThree }
> \addlyrics { \verbaFour }
> \addlyrics { \verbaFive }
> \addlyrics { \verbaSix }
> \addly
