Re: markup on a shifted note is not shifted

2010-07-07 Thread -Eluze

great, thanks!

will you implement this in future versions or in the LSR?

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Re: horizontal center-align of systems?

2010-07-07 Thread Ole Schmidt
ok, now I fully understand that, thanks

ole


Am 07.07.2010 um 00:22 schrieb Neil Puttock:

> As I suggested previously, to use \markup in this situation without
> separate scores would require a \score-lines command to be added to
> LilyPond.


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Stem Details

2010-07-07 Thread Phil Burfitt

Hello List,

Could anyone give me a detailed explanation of the following Stem details...

   beamed-minimum-free-lengths
   beamed-extreme-minimum-free-lengths

The descriptions given in the Internals documentation don't make any sense
to me (probably my ignorance).

Thank you in advance.

Phil.


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rehearsal letter & other indication

2010-07-07 Thread Victor Eijkhout
I have a rehearsal letter (\mark\default) and at the same place I want  
to have a tempo indication ("slightly faster"). How can I combine  
them? I'd rather not put that text on a note, since it has to occur in  
every part of a score.


Victor.

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Re: Stem Details

2010-07-07 Thread Éditions IN NOMINE

Hi.

Actually, the description here : 
http://www.kainhofer.com/~lilypond/ajax/Documentation/internals/stem_002dinterface.html 
is a short one, but to my mind, here's sort of an explanation :


|"lengths : |Default stem lengths. The list gives a length for each flag 
count." : so the lenths of stems are listed (somwhere but where in a 
.scm ?), function of the number of flags they hang.


"|beamed-lengths : |List of stem lengths given beam multiplicity. " : it 
must override the previous list function of the position of lengths in a 
beam. That's to say : youv'e certainly noticed that stem lengths are not 
the same for a specific notewhen it is beamed together with other notes 
or not. this list seems to opverride the previous one. i think "when a 
grow up", I'll be able to adapt this list to my nedds instaed of 
overriding each of my stem lengths !

|
"beamed-minimum-free-lengths : |List of normal minimum free stem lengths 
(chord to beams) given beam multiplicity." : ???


|"beamed-extreme-minimum-free-lengths :|List of extreme minimum free 
stem lengths (chord to beams) given beam multiplicity." ??? sorry again


"|stem-shorten : |How much a stem in a forced direction should be 
shortened. The list gives an amount depending on the number of flags and 
beams." : this sets in particular the lenght of the stems for higheest 
notes in a upper voice. You have noticed that it shortens when you get 
higher.


Well I'm not a professionnal and i must admit it's the first time I read 
this section. Hope it helps !


JMarc


Phil Burfitt a écrit :

Hello List,

Could anyone give me a detailed explanation of the following Stem 
details...


   beamed-minimum-free-lengths
   beamed-extreme-minimum-free-lengths

The descriptions given in the Internals documentation don't make any 
sense

to me (probably my ignorance).

Thank you in advance.

Phil.


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Re: rehearsal letter & other indication

2010-07-07 Thread Alexander Kobel

On 2010-07-07 15:08, Victor Eijkhout wrote:

I have a rehearsal letter (\mark\default) and at the same place I want
to have a tempo indication ("slightly faster"). How can I combine them?
I'd rather not put that text on a note, since it has to occur in every
part of a score.

Victor.


Hi, Victor,

try: \tempo "your text".


Cheers,
Alexander

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Re: rehearsal letter & other indication

2010-07-07 Thread Victor Eijkhout


On Jul 7, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Alexander Kobel wrote:




try: \tempo "your text".



After upgrading from 2.11.30 to 2.12 this worked. Thanks. However, the  
layout is not great if I do


\mark\default \tempo "lively"
R1*8
\mark\default \tempo "slightly faster"
R1*8
\mark\default \tempo "slower"

The subsequent rehearsal letters wind up on top of the tempo  
indications.


Victor.


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Re: markup on a shifted note is not shifted

2010-07-07 Thread Neil Puttock
On 7 July 2010 10:59, -Eluze  wrote:

> will you implement this in future versions or in the LSR?

I've emended the snippet above so it'll be part of the docs in 2.13.28.

I can't change the example in LSR until there's been a version update
(following the release of 2.14).

Cheers,
Neil

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old vs new G clefs

2010-07-07 Thread Tim Reeves
I was trying to see what changes in 2.13.27  when I discovered that 
somewhere in 2.13 this happened:

The LilyPond G clef has been rotated 1.5 degrees clockwise for improved 
balance. The old and new versions can be compared by looking at the 
documentation: old version, new version. 

But this doesn't let me see both at the same time.  Is there an easy way 
to see them both on one page for comparison without installing an older 
version alongside the new.
Also, the page doesn't tell me what X is (in 2.13.x) where the change 
occurs, only that it occurs in 2.13 somewhere between 2.13.0 and 2.13.27. 
Any way to find out exactly where the change occurred?


Thanks,
Tim Reeves

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Re: rehearsal letter & other indication

2010-07-07 Thread Jethro Van Thuyne
Hi Victor,

What about something like this?

  \relative c' {
c bes aes g |
\mark \markup{ \box A Lively }
c bes aes g |
c bes aes g |
\mark \markup{ \box B Slightly faster }
c bes aes g 
  }

Best regards,

Jethro.

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On Wed, 7 Jul 2010, Victor Eijkhout wrote:

> 
> On Jul 7, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Alexander Kobel wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > try: \tempo "your text".
> > 
> 
> After upgrading from 2.11.30 to 2.12 this worked. Thanks. However, the layout
> is not great if I do
> 
> \mark\default \tempo "lively"
> R1*8
> \mark\default \tempo "slightly faster"
> R1*8
> \mark\default \tempo "slower"
> 
> The subsequent rehearsal letters wind up on top of the tempo indications.
> 
> Victor.
> 
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Re: rehearsal letter & other indication

2010-07-07 Thread Jethro Van Thuyne
I don't know about your version, but in mine the marks are centered above 
the barline, which could be a bit confusing when adding a (longer) text to 
the mark. It pushes the box with the letter to a position before the 
actual mark.

It works better with:

  \override Score.RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-X = #-1

Best regards,

Jethro.


On Wed, 7 Jul 2010, Jethro Van Thuyne wrote:

> Hi Victor,
> 
> What about something like this?
> 
>   \relative c' {
> c bes aes g |
> \mark \markup{ \box A Lively }
> c bes aes g |
> c bes aes g |
> \mark \markup{ \box B Slightly faster }
> c bes aes g 
>   }
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Jethro.
> 
> _
> 
> Italielei 237 v3
> B-2000 ANTWERPEN
> 
> home: +32 473 228 002
> work: +32 3 216 98 46
> 
> m...@jethrovanthuyne.be
> www.jethrovanthuyne.be
> 
> On Wed, 7 Jul 2010, Victor Eijkhout wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Jul 7, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Alexander Kobel wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > try: \tempo "your text".
> > > 
> > 
> > After upgrading from 2.11.30 to 2.12 this worked. Thanks. However, the 
> > layout
> > is not great if I do
> > 
> > \mark\default \tempo "lively"
> > R1*8
> > \mark\default \tempo "slightly faster"
> > R1*8
> > \mark\default \tempo "slower"
> > 
> > The subsequent rehearsal letters wind up on top of the tempo indications.
> > 
> > Victor.
> > 
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ANN: Frescobaldi 1.1.2 released

2010-07-07 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Hi,

Frescobaldi 1.1.2 has been released, with some new features. This is a 
development version that requires Python 2.6, but it's quite stable.

http://lilykde.googlecode.com/files/frescobaldi-1.1.2.tar.gz

Frescobaldi is a full featured LilyPond sheet music text editor.

Main new features since 1.1.1:
- A list of directories can be configured that is searched for include files
  when LilyPond is run (wish #31)
- Real print dialog for all print actions instead of just piping to 'lpr'
- Print Music and Email actions moved to File menu
- New Toolbar buttons for Print and View (PDF/MIDI)

Main new features since 1.0.2 (Stable):
- Multiple versions of LilyPond can be used and Frescobaldi can auto-choose,
  based on the version of the document
- Score Wizard and Blank Staff generator have some support for LilyPond 2.13+
  vertical spacing
- Repeat last expression: don't append space
- Dialog to insert characters from the Unicode table (like kcharselect)
- Keyboard shortcuts can be set for articulations
- "Distribute Stanzas" option in Score Wizard, Choir to spread a large number
  of different stanzas between three or more staves
- Under-the-hood improvements

Enjoy and please report every bug or wish you encounter!
best regards,
Wilbert Berendsen

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Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 1.1.2 released

2010-07-07 Thread Bernardo Barros
Hi Wilbert,

Theoretically it is possible to build it under osx, right? Maybe a lot
of dependencies kde4 and python modules. Fink and Macports have port
for kde4 and qt4. Do you know anyone that did that?

cheers,
Bernardo

2010/7/7 Wilbert Berendsen :
> Hi,
>
> Frescobaldi 1.1.2 has been released, with some new features. This is a
> development version that requires Python 2.6, but it's quite stable.
>
> http://lilykde.googlecode.com/files/frescobaldi-1.1.2.tar.gz
>
> Frescobaldi is a full featured LilyPond sheet music text editor.
>
> Main new features since 1.1.1:
> - A list of directories can be configured that is searched for include files
>  when LilyPond is run (wish #31)
> - Real print dialog for all print actions instead of just piping to 'lpr'
> - Print Music and Email actions moved to File menu
> - New Toolbar buttons for Print and View (PDF/MIDI)
>
> Main new features since 1.0.2 (Stable):
> - Multiple versions of LilyPond can be used and Frescobaldi can auto-choose,
>  based on the version of the document
> - Score Wizard and Blank Staff generator have some support for LilyPond 2.13+
>  vertical spacing
> - Repeat last expression: don't append space
> - Dialog to insert characters from the Unicode table (like kcharselect)
> - Keyboard shortcuts can be set for articulations
> - "Distribute Stanzas" option in Score Wizard, Choir to spread a large number
>  of different stanzas between three or more staves
> - Under-the-hood improvements
>
> Enjoy and please report every bug or wish you encounter!
> best regards,
> Wilbert Berendsen
>
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Re: old vs new G clefs

2010-07-07 Thread Carl Sorensen



On 7/7/10 1:35 PM, "Tim Reeves"  wrote:

> I was trying to see what changes in 2.13.27  when I discovered that
> somewhere in 2.13 this happened:
> 
> The LilyPond G clef has been rotated 1.5 degrees clockwise for improved
> balance. The old and new versions can be compared by looking at the
> documentation: old version, new version.
> 
> But this doesn't let me see both at the same time.  Is there an easy way
> to see them both on one page for comparison without installing an older
> version alongside the new.

Unfortunately, there is only one G clef in LilyPond at a time, so it is not
possible to use LilyPond to display both clefs in one file.  The only images
I could find on the -devel list were not of the final clefs used.

You can compare two clefs side-by-side by creating two different scores and
using svg output.  Then you can copy one clef to the other document.

> Also, the page doesn't tell me what X is (in 2.13.x) where the change
> occurs, only that it occurs in 2.13 somewhere between 2.13.0 and 2.13.27.
> Any way to find out exactly where the change occurred?

To find out things like that, you need to search the git repository (not
particularly helpful, I know, but that's how it's currently set up).

Go to 

http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git

and search for clef.  There you'll see a commit by Marc Hohl, dated
2010-01-28, that says "Font: rotating the g clef for better appearance".
 (You also can see that it wasn't added to Changes until 2010-05-17).

Looking at the tags section of the git repository at Savannah, you can see
all of the 2.13.x releases.  2.13.12-1 is dated 4 Feb 2019; 2.13.11-1 is
dated 16 Jan 2010.

Therefore, the clef rotation was new with 2.13.12.

HTH,

Carl


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Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 1.1.2 released

2010-07-07 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op donderdag 08 juli 2010 schreef Bernardo:

> Theoretically it is possible to build it under osx, right? Maybe a lot
> of dependencies kde4 and python modules. Fink and Macports have port
> for kde4 and qt4. Do you know anyone that did that?

Not that I know of, because PyKDE4 (the binding of KDE4 to python, built on 
top of PyQt4) is not yet available in fink and Macports (and Windows neither) 
afaict... But as soon as that one becomes available, I think Frescobaldi could 
be made to run anywhere.

best regards,
Wilbert Berendsen

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Re: Similar to tremolo

2010-07-07 Thread Helge Kruse

Am 06.07.2010 01:20, schrieb M Watts:

% your attached png

\relative c' {
\time 9/128
\set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = #'(3 . 4)
\override NoteHead #'duration-log = #1
a64. c e
}


Tanks for providing this workaround.

I attached only the tremolo measure. But I also need ordinary notes. How 
do I switch back to normal notation without an additional time signature 
printed in the system?



The middle note's stem on the attached png doesn't go up through the
tremolo beams, but Stem #'length only affects unbeamed notes, not sure
how to fix.
I would be nice if this could be fixed. But that shortened stem is not 
so important for me.


Regards,
Helge

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Re: Similar to tremolo

2010-07-07 Thread Mike Solomon
\version "2.13.27"

\relative c'
{ a b c d
% hides the next time signature
\once \override Staff . TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
\time 2/4 a b a b
}


On 7/8/10 7:24 AM, "Helge Kruse"  wrote:

> Am 06.07.2010 01:20, schrieb M Watts:
>> % your attached png
>> 
>> \relative c' {
>> \time 9/128
>> \set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = #'(3 . 4)
>> \override NoteHead #'duration-log = #1
>> a64. c e
>> }
> 
> Tanks for providing this workaround.
> 
> I attached only the tremolo measure. But I also need ordinary notes. How
> do I switch back to normal notation without an additional time signature
> printed in the system?
> 
>> The middle note's stem on the attached png doesn't go up through the
>> tremolo beams, but Stem #'length only affects unbeamed notes, not sure
>> how to fix.
> I would be nice if this could be fixed. But that shortened stem is not
> so important for me.
> 
> Regards,
> Helge
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