Re: Uninstalling and reinstalling in linux [was: Re: Consistent gs problem PS->PDF 2.13.24]

2010-06-16 Thread Nick Payne

On 16/06/10 16:54, Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote:

On Wed 16 Jun 2010, 08:46 Nick Payne wrote:
   

I just downloaded and installed 2.13.24 - linux 64-bit running on
Ubuntu 10.04 amd64. After installing it, every file I try to build
 

All the same, but could not catch this problem.

   

Converting to `./bwv1007_prelude.pdf'...
`gs -q -dSAFER -dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=595.28
-dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=841.89 -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4 -dNOPAUSE
-dBATCH -r1200 -sDEVICE=pdfwrite
-sOutputFile="./bwv1007_prelude.pdf" -c .setpdfwrite -f
"bwv1007_prelude.ps"' failed (256)
error: failed files: "/home/nick/lilypond/Bach/BWV1007/bwv1007_prelude.ly"

If I uninstall 2.13.24 and reinstall 2.13.23 the files all build
without error. Uninstall 2.13.23 and reinstall 2.13.24 and the error
returns.
 

BTW, you need not to uninstall and reinstall to try different versions.

What i'm using:

  - before installing new version of lilypond i remove ~/lilypond, which is a
symlink actually,
  - after installing a new version i move it to ~/lilyponds/lilypond-
and make a symlink lilypond ->  ~/lilyponds/lilypond-

Everything works nice. To switch to other version i need to edit a symlink.
   
I use sudo sh lilypond*.sh, which installs to /usr/local/lilypond, not 
~/lilypond. ~/lilypond contains all my ly source files.


Nick

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Re: Uninstalling and reinstalling in linux [was: Re: Consistent gs problem PS->PDF 2.13.24]

2010-06-16 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Wed 16 Jun 2010, 17:12 Nick Payne wrote:
> >What i'm using:
> >
> >  - before installing new version of lilypond i remove ~/lilypond, which is a
> >symlink actually,
> >  - after installing a new version i move it to 
> > ~/lilyponds/lilypond-
> >and make a symlink lilypond ->  ~/lilyponds/lilypond-
> >
> >Everything works nice. To switch to other version i need to edit a symlink.
> I use sudo sh lilypond*.sh, which installs to /usr/local/lilypond,
> not ~/lilypond. ~/lilypond contains all my ly source files.
Not a problem, you could organize your links over there, at /usr/local,
i guess.

Well, yes, uninstall-reinstall is not a problem, too, you're right :-)

> Nick

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Changing conducting signs

2010-06-16 Thread flup2

Hello,

I would like to know if somebody knows how conductng signs (
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=259
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=259 ) are created by Lilypond. 

In a lot of books (Kurt Stone for instance) I noticed that beats divided by
3 are noted by a full triangle, no a "two-parts" triangle like Lilypond
does.

So, perhaps is there a way to tweak these shapes, but I don't know how (and
even where to look for).

Thanks,

Philippe
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Re: multi-tempi

2010-06-16 Thread Hans Roels
Maybe my question was't clear enough but I am not looking for a 
polymetric notation but a notation for different tempi, I want to 
remain the original parts in their original meter and tempo. I only 
want to adjust the graphical spacing to have a visual indication of 
the (unexisting) overall timing (a kind of underlying visual time grid).


(see further)

At 18:20 14/06/2010, James Bailey wrote:


On 14.06.2010, at 15:20, Hans Roels wrote:



I don't really know Lilypond well (I just had a quick look at the
documentation)
but I have some music notation problems and maybe somebody could
tell me if
Lilypond is the right tool to solve my problems.

1. Is it possible to create a score with a fixed number of seconds
(not bars)
per system?


I would do this myself. i.e., in 4/4, with a tempo of 4=60, and
arbitrarily decide 16 seconds per system means s1*4\break


If the original is in tempo 74 and in 3/4 and I want to have 16 
seconds per system, the break should be be after 19.75 beats. Is this 
possible without rewriting the original score to 4/4?




2. Is it possible to create a score with different parts/voices
that each have a
different tempo? for example a score with a first part in tempo 56
bpm, a second
in 64 bpm and a third in 92 bpm?


I would do this by calculating the tempo, i.e., 8=128 (8/8) / 4=92
(4/4) and simply applying the principles in section 1.2.3 of the
Notation Reference, under Polymetric notation.
Same remark now: suppose that the first part of the multi-tempo is in 
tempo 56 in 3/4. Is it possible to write everything on top of a 
'hidden' time grid of tempo = 60, meaning that the visual length of a 
measure of part A would equal 3.21 quarter notes in tempo 60 but 
would be notated in meter 3/4 (3 quarter notes would fill the measure).
I had a look at the section about polymetric notation in the Notation 
Reference, I guess I need a combination of the scaleDurations command 
( "Staves with different time signatures, equal measure lengths" ) 
and moving the Timing_translator to each staff ("Staves with 
different time signatures, unequal bar lengths" ) . Is this possible? 
Did anyone try this?


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Re: multi-tempi

2010-06-16 Thread Hans Roels
The conclusion of this thread was that this kind of multi-tempo score 
is impossible to realize in Lilypond. All the examples in the thread 
are polymetric and have a common beat (a quarter or eigth). Has 
anything changed since 2008 or is this still impossible?


Hans R

At 22:59 14/06/2010, Ole Schmidt wrote:

search for "different tempos" in the mailing list archive.
a thread from a guy namend Kostia from 2008.


http://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=different+tempos&submit=Search&idxname=lilypond-user

concerning the midi import there is a midy2ly function, but I don't 
know if it can handle such a (complex) task.



hth  ole




Am 14.06.2010 um 15:20 schrieb Hans Roels:

>
> I don't really know Lilypond well (I just had a quick look at the 
documentation)

> but I have some music notation problems and maybe somebody could tell me if
> Lilypond is the right tool to solve my problems.
>
> 1. Is it possible to create a score with a fixed number of 
seconds (not bars)

> per system?
>
> 2. Is it possible to create a score with different parts/voices 
that each have a
> different tempo? for example a score with a first part in tempo 
56 bpm, a second

> in 64 bpm and a third in 92 bpm?
>
> 3. Would it be possible to create a kind of script/template/score 
in Lilypond
> that imports midi files (or some other file format) and creates a 
multi-tempo

> score after the user has assigned midifile1 to part 1, midifile2 to part
> 2adjust,...
>
> I hope someone has some advice!
> Hans Roels
>
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Re: multi-tempi

2010-06-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:20:03PM +0200, Hans Roels wrote:
> The conclusion of this thread was that this kind of multi-tempo score is 
> impossible to realize in Lilypond. All the examples in the thread are 
> polymetric and have a common beat (a quarter or eigth). Has anything 
> changed since 2008 or is this still impossible?

Multi-tempo scores are simple and have been for at least 5 years.
See the documentation.

Importing multi-tempo scores with midi2ly doesn't work, because
nobody wants to work on midi2ly.

- Graham

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Re: invisible rest that takes no horizontal space

2010-06-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Peter,

> On closer look, I see it does not work... The bar lines after the invisible 
> rest are shifted. This takes no score time and no space.
> In the Notation Reference I found how to set Score.measurePosition. Is it 
> also possible to increase Score.measurePosition?

I think so… but to solve your problem, maybe you should adjust the BarLine 
properties instead.

Good luck!
Kieren.
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can't find libgs.exe.so.8.70

2010-06-16 Thread 胡海鹏 - Hu Haipeng
Hello,
  As a person reported earlier, 2.13.24 can't create pdf. My error is not the 
same as his. The program aborts at the end, saying can't find 
libgs.exe.so.8.70. It's strange that the file it's finding is not a standard 
file, because there are many other things after the regular exe extension. I 
can't speak a word!
Regards
Haipeng


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Re: invisible rest that takes no horizontal space

2010-06-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Peter,

> Thank you. That triggered the right solution. r4*0 does not work. The rest 
> collides with the following note.

You can make it transparent.

> I have around 1000 melodies in which partial measures were solved by 
> inserting invisible rests (s) instead of using \partial. With this solution 
> it is relatively easy to write a script to add *0 to all those invisible 
> rests in order to get visually satisfying scores.

If it's that easy to write a script, why not write one that "does the right 
thing"? i.e., turns them into \partial measures?

Cheers,
Kieren.
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Re: Tweak

2010-06-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Jan,

> I am a neophyte Lilypond user. I understand how to use the TWEAK command to 
> show
> a chord with 1 LARGE note and 1 SMALL note. How do I show 1 LARGE whole note
> with a SMALL quarter note + 2 eighth notes + 1 half note? 

Can you send a scan/sketch of what you want?

Thanks,
Kieren.
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Re: (2.13.x) Alignment of topmost and bottommost staff of page

2010-06-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Alexander,

> is it possible to tell LilyPond to use the same vertical positions for all 
> topmost and bottommost staff lines of different pages?  Rephrased, can I say 
> "I know what I'm doing, ignore all vertical extents below the last staff 
> lines of a page for vertical stretching, even if it collides with the footer"?

Did you try setting #'bottom-system-spacing #'padding to 0 and using 
#'minimum-distance only?
According to [my reading of] the docs, this should work.

Good luck!
Kieren.
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Re: multi-tempi

2010-06-16 Thread Hans Roels

At 12:53 16/06/2010, Graham Percival wrote:

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:20:03PM +0200, Hans Roels wrote:
> The conclusion of this thread was that this kind of multi-tempo score is
> impossible to realize in Lilypond. All the examples in the thread are
> polymetric and have a common beat (a quarter or eigth). Has anything
> changed since 2008 or is this still impossible?

Multi-tempo scores are simple and have been for at least 5 years.
See the documentation.


Would you mind telling me where exactly in the documentation, I can 
only find information on polymetric scores in the documentation.


Hans R



Importing multi-tempo scores with midi2ly doesn't work, because
nobody wants to work on midi2ly.

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Re: invisible rest that takes no horizontal space

2010-06-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Peter,

> adding *0 to s[0-9]+ is easy. To add the \partial command, it is necessary to 
> figure out the current time signature from the context, to find the start of 
> the measure and to figure out the length of the partial bar, which is not 
> easy. One has to write a lilypond parser for that.

No... if you have

  s4 s4 s4. c8 |

you could easily have your script figure out the length of the measure, without 
a "Lilypond parser".
Of course, I'm assuming you use barline checks, like the docs recommend -- 
otherwise, you may definitely be unable to use this solution.

Cheers,
Kieren.
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Re: Scheme sandbox

2010-06-16 Thread phil.burfitt
- Original Message - 
From: "Gilles THIBAULT" 
To: "Gilles THIBAULT" ; "Carl Sorensen" 
; ; 

Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: Scheme sandbox




Oh no sorry ! I have posted the wrong file.
This one works in XP, without GUILE_LOAD_PATH.
Hope it can be a work-around for Vista.

; runGuile.bat %%

@echo off
start ""  /B /D "c:\Program Files\Lilypond\usr" guile

Gilles




Hi Giles,

thanks for the suggestion, unfortunately no joy...it gives the same errors 
as if I had set the GUILE_LOAD_PATH


Phil.


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Re: multi-tempi

2010-06-16 Thread Mark Knoop
At 13:27 on 16 Jun 2010, Hans Roels wrote:
> At 12:53 16/06/2010, Graham Percival wrote:
> >On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:20:03PM +0200, Hans Roels wrote:
> > > The conclusion of this thread was that this kind of multi-tempo
> > > score is impossible to realize in Lilypond. All the examples in
> > > the thread are polymetric and have a common beat (a quarter or
> > > eigth). Has anything changed since 2008 or is this still
> > > impossible?
> >
> >Multi-tempo scores are simple and have been for at least 5 years.
> >See the documentation.
> 
> Would you mind telling me where exactly in the documentation, I can 
> only find information on polymetric scores in the documentation.

You will need to combine the examples shown in the NR 1.2.3 Polymetric
notation section. Essentially you want staves with different time
signatures, unequal bar lengths, combined with scaling durations.

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Acciaccatura with glissando

2010-06-16 Thread phil.burfitt
Anyone known how can I produce an acciaccatura with a glissando rather than 
a slur ?


Phil.
LilyPond 2.13.17



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Re: (2.13.x) Alignment of topmost and bottommost staff of page

2010-06-16 Thread Alexander Kobel

On 2010-06-16 13:16, Kieren MacMillan wrote:

Hi Alexander,


is it possible to tell LilyPond to use the same vertical positions for all topmost and 
bottommost staff lines of different pages?  Rephrased, can I say "I know what I'm 
doing, ignore all vertical extents below the last staff lines of a page for vertical 
stretching, even if it collides with the footer"?


Did you try setting #'bottom-system-spacing #'padding to 0 and using 
#'minimum-distance only?
According to [my reading of] the docs, this should work.


Hi, Kieren,

it's the right track, thanks a lot.

\paper { bottom-system-spacing = #'((minimum-distance . 2) (padding . 
-10)) }


is the candidate. Looks like I have to set #'padding to a negative value 
to tell LilyPond to ignore vertical extents up to this value below the 
last staff line; -inf.0 is, while technicially the best guess, not quite 
useful, since any footer will print into the staff lines then (and this 
can't be helped with \vspace, e.g.).  A finite negative value is okay; 
the collision with the footer can then be dealt with using \vspace and 
an appropriate (read: trial-and-error) offset.


It's a pity, though, that bottom-system-spacing relates to the top of 
the bottom margin instead of the top of the footer + foot-separation... 
 That'd both allow -inf.0 for padding, and make finding the correct 
\vspace value in the footer far easier.  (For some reason, the latter is 
not quite what I'd expect, e.g. for padding = -100 I need \vspace #31.5 
to get a nice result for a two-line footer?!)



Cheers,
Alexander

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Re: Consistent gs problem PS->PDF 2.13.24

2010-06-16 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op woensdag 16-06-2010 om 00:32 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Graham
Percival:
> Ghostscript was bumped to something.70, and a bunch of extra
> patches we apply to ghostscript changed.  We'll look into it.

Fixes pushed to GUB, for mingw and linux-64.  I verified
both ghostscript packages, but not the installers.

Jan.

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Re: Tweak

2010-06-16 Thread Xavier Scheuer
2010/6/16 Jan A. Shullenberger :

> I am a neophyte Lilypond user. I understand how to use the TWEAK
> command to show a chord with 1 LARGE note and 1 SMALL note.
> How do I show 1 LARGE whole note with a SMALL quarter note + 2 eighth
> notes + 1 half note?

Hi!

You can no longer use a chord construct if the rhythm is different.
You need to use a polyphonic construction, with Voices :
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/learning/i_0027m-hearing-voices.html
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices


  <<
{
  %% LARGE (normal) size
  c1
}
\new Voice {
  %% SMALL note size
  \set fontSize = #-3
  \override Stem #'length-fraction = #(magstep -3)
  e4 f8 g a2
}
  >>


Cheers,
Xavier

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Re: Changing conducting signs

2010-06-16 Thread Carl Sorensen
Copying to -devel to get developer feedback, and to bug to get the issue in
the tracker if it belongs there.

On 6/16/10 1:58 AM, "flup2"  wrote:
> 
> I would like to know if somebody knows how conductng signs (
> http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=259
> http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=259 ) are created by Lilypond.
> 
> In a lot of books (Kurt Stone for instance) I noticed that beats divided by
> 3 are noted by a full triangle, no a "two-parts" triangle like Lilypond
> does.

Is this a bug in LilyPond?  Does anybody ever want the incomplete triangle?
The thing that is printed is *called* a triangle.  It would be trivial for
me to make it be a closed triangle.

I'm not familiar enough with measure grouping signs to say what is "right",
but this looks to me to be an error, not just an alternative choice.  I'll
await comment by those who know more before I push a patch.

> 
> So, perhaps is there a way to tweak these shapes, but I don't know how (and
> even where to look for).

Unfortunately, there is no simple scheme interface for tweaking these
shapes.  These shapes are all created in C++ code.

If you want to try tweaking these shapes, you'll need to write a scheme
routine that can be used as a 'stencil for the MeasureGrouping grob:

\override MeasureGrouping #'stencil = #my-new-stencil

Long-term, it would probably be better to move this stencil creation code to
Scheme, so that it could be overriden more easily.

Thanks,

Carl


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Re: (2.13.x) Alignment of topmost and bottommost staff of page

2010-06-16 Thread Alexander Kobel

On 2010-06-16 14:12, Alexander Kobel wrote:

[...] finding the correct
\vspace value in the footer far easier. (For some reason, the latter is
not quite what I'd expect, e.g. for padding = -100 I need \vspace #31.5
to get a nice result for a two-line footer?!)


Ugh, I just recognized that this actually is not arbitrary.  \vspace 
creates a vertical space of argument /amount/ _multiplied by 3_.
Which does not make sense to me - why * 3? - but okay, then I see why 
the value is about a third, +- foot-separation.



Cheers,
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Re: Acciaccatura with glissando

2010-06-16 Thread -Eluze


phil.burfitt wrote:
> 
> Anyone known how can I produce an acciaccatura with a glissando rather
> than 
> a slur ?
> 

you could use a \grace instead, and if you need the stroked stem you can add
that style:

{
  \once \override Glissando #'minimum-length   = #5
  \once \override Glissando #'springs-and-rods =
#ly:spanner::set-spacing-rods
  \once \override Stem #'stroke-style = #"grace"
  \grace a''16 \glissando c'''4
}

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Re: Acciaccatura with glissando

2010-06-16 Thread Joseph Wakeling
On 06/16/2010 01:55 PM, phil.burf...@talktalk.net wrote:
> Anyone known how can I produce an acciaccatura with a glissando rather
> than a slur ?

In principle it should be as simple as using \grace rather than
\acciaccatura:

   \grace c'8 \glissando e'4

... the trouble I think is the spacing, which means the gliss line is
too short to be seen.

So, as per the Notation Reference on horizontal spacing,
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Horizontal-spacing-overview#Horizontal-spacing-overview

you can try to insert some padding:

\grace c'8 \glissando
\override Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn #'padding = #10
e'4

... altering the padding value as necessary, and the gliss line should
become visible.

Off the top of my head I can't remember how to add the slash / to the
grace note, if you want that, but I'm sure it's somewhere in the
documentation on grace notes.

Best wishes,

-- Joe

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Re: Acciaccatura with glissando

2010-06-16 Thread Joseph Wakeling
On 06/16/2010 03:39 PM, Joseph Wakeling wrote:
> ... altering the padding value as necessary, and the gliss line should
> become visible.

Hmmm, maybe an imperfect solution, since I can't work out how to make
the extra padding apply only to the space between the grace note and the
main note ... :-(

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Re: Acciaccatura with glissando

2010-06-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Joseph,

> Hmmm, maybe an imperfect solution, since I can't work out how to make
> the extra padding apply only to the space between the grace note and the
> main note ... :-(

Why not change Glissando #'minimum-length instead?

Hope this helps!
Kieren.

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Re: Consistent gs problem PS->PDF 2.13.24

2010-06-16 Thread Graham Percival
Updated 2.13.24-2 for linux-64 and mingw:
http://lilypond.org/~graham/

Please test and let me know if they're better.

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: Acciaccatura with glissando

2010-06-16 Thread Joseph Wakeling
On 06/16/2010 04:01 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> Hi Joseph,
> 
>> Hmmm, maybe an imperfect solution, since I can't work out how to make
>> the extra padding apply only to the space between the grace note and the
>> main note ... :-(
> 
> Why not change Glissando #'minimum-length instead?

Yea, Eluze's nice solution, which I had not yet received when I sent my
own so-called 'solution' ...

> Hope this helps!

More than my email did, that's for sure ... :-\

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Re: (2.13.x) Alignment of topmost and bottommost staff of page

2010-06-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Alexander,

> Ugh, I just recognized that this actually is not arbitrary.  \vspace creates 
> a vertical space of argument /amount/ _multiplied by 3_.
> Which does not make sense to me - why * 3? - but okay, then I see why the 
> value is about a third, +- foot-separation.

Would this be fixed by using \put-mm instead? Unlike \vspace, it doesn't put in 
["arbitrary"] vertical space.
Check the archives for more info.

Cheers,
Kieren.
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Lilypond 2.13.24-1 No PDFs

2010-06-16 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Hello,

working with windows I uninstalled version 2.13.20 from the menu, installed
2.13.24 and have problems.

I use jedit as enviroment:
1. The converter to newer versions runs but does nothing.
2. More importent: after compiling the ly-code I get the message:
..
Systeme erstellen...
Layout nach »Sor_60_17.ps« ausgeben...
Konvertierung nach »./Sor_60_17.pdf«...

but when I call the Lilypond pdf-view, the page remains blank. The reason
there is no *.ps nor a *.pdf file in the directory nor on the computer.
I reinstalled lilypond twice, started the pc new ...

Any ideas

Hajo

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Re: Lilypond 2.13.24-1 No PDFs

2010-06-16 Thread Xavier Scheuer
2010/6/16 Hajo Dezelski :

> Hello,
>
> working with windows I uninstalled version 2.13.20 from the menu,
> installed 2.13.24 and have problems.
>
> I use jedit as enviroment:
> 1. The converter to newer versions runs but does nothing.
> 2. More importent: after compiling the ly-code I get the message:
> ..
> Systeme erstellen...
> Layout nach »Sor_60_17.ps« ausgeben...
> Konvertierung nach »./Sor_60_17.pdf«...
>
> but when I call the Lilypond pdf-view, the page remains blank.
> The reason there is no *.ps nor a *.pdf file in the directory nor
> on the computer.
> I reinstalled lilypond twice, started the pc new ...
>
> Any ideas

Hi!

This is a bug.

Reported a few hours ago:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2010-06/msg00262.html

Cheers,
Xavier

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Re: Acciaccatura with glissando

2010-06-16 Thread phil.burfitt
- Original Message - 
From: "-Eluze" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: Acciaccatura with glissando





phil.burfitt wrote:


Anyone known how can I produce an acciaccatura with a glissando rather
than
a slur ?



you could use a \grace instead, and if you need the stroked stem you can 
add

that style:

{
 \once \override Glissando #'minimum-length   = #5
 \once \override Glissando #'springs-and-rods =
#ly:spanner::set-spacing-rods
 \once \override Stem #'stroke-style = #"grace"
 \grace a''16 \glissando c'''4
}

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Hi Eluze,

Thanks, that gives a visible glissando, but unfortunately distances the
grace note too much. If glissando minimum-length is set to anything less
than 3, it disappears!

I've found the problem is padding on either side of glissando. Using...
\once \override Glissando #'bound-details = #'((right (padding . 0)) (left 
(padding . 0)))

removes any padding.

The following solution (thanks to your ideas) gives me an acceptable
solution, including moving the glissando below the grace and main note...

\once \override Slur #'transparent = ##t
\once \override Glissando #'bound-details = #'((right (padding . 0)) (left
(padding . 0)))
\once \override Glissando #'extra-offset = #'(0 . -1)
\acciaccatura a8\glissando d4

I would have thought grace notes with glissando instead of slur would have
been an available user option, as they are quite common in guitar music.

Cheers.
Phil.



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Re: Consistent gs problem PS->PDF 2.13.24

2010-06-16 Thread James Lowe

Hello,

On 16/06/2010 15:05, Graham Percival wrote:

Updated 2.13.24-2 for linux-64 and mingw:
http://lilypond.org/~graham/

Please test and let me know if they're better.

Cheers,
- Graham


I tried the mingw and I assume this was a general problem?

If so I can make PDFs with no problems.

James

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Re: Consistent gs problem PS->PDF 2.13.24

2010-06-16 Thread Nick Payne

On 17/06/10 00:05, Graham Percival wrote:

Updated 2.13.24-2 for linux-64 and mingw:
http://lilypond.org/~graham/

Please test and let me know if they're better.
   
Lilypond from lilypond-2.13.24-2.linux-64.sh makes PDFs without problem 
on my system here.


thanks

Nick

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Re: Acciaccatura with glissando

2010-06-16 Thread -Eluze


phil.burfitt wrote:
> 
> Hi Eluze,
> 
> Thanks, that gives a visible glissando, but unfortunately distances the
> grace note too much. If glissando minimum-length is set to anything less
> than 3, it disappears!
> 

hi Phil!

i don't agree fully, but of course you have to judge from your final
context!

the following solution with a minimum-length = #2 looks quite acceptable to
me:

{
% \override Glissando #'gap = #5% NO EFECT!?
  \override Glissando #'minimum-length   = #2.0
  \override Glissando #'springs-and-rods = #ly:spanner::set-spacing-rods
  \override Glissando #'bound-details #'left #'padding = #.6
  \override Glissando #'bound-details #'right #'padding = #.9
  \override Stem #'stroke-style = #"grace"

  \grace a8 \glissando d4
}



> I would have thought grace notes with glissando instead of slur would have
> been an available user option, as they are quite common in guitar music.
> 

the slur really makes sense and cannot simply be replaced by a straight line
- think of a grace/acciaccatura/appoggiatura with more than one note!

you should also have a look at (older) editions of pieces trying to show a
glissando from a grace to a normal note head… ( and not only that) -
sometimes you think there is a staccato dot somewhere, other times you think
there is a spot on the paper and further on

with lilypond you can do it - it is up to you to define what you prefer!

hope you'll find the good solution for your score!
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seeking more Bug Squad members

2010-06-16 Thread Graham Percival
I'm looking for volunteers to join the Bug Squad.  The workload is
15 minutes per week.

We currently have 3 victims.  That means that the response time
for bugs could be around 100 hours.  I'd like it to be 24 hours,
since that's a nice round number.  Much rounder than 100.

To reach the goal of "a response within 24 hours", we'd need
another 4 volunteers.  Of course, this is assuming that Bug Squad
members never go on holiday, never get busy, etc.  So I'd like to
get more than 4 additional volunteers... a total of 14 would be
nice.  Then we could have two people doing 15 minutes each day.
As a result, people could take breaks easily, and the overall
workload would probably drop to 5-10 minutes each week.  Maybe
even less.

If you want an overview of what you'd be doing, read about it
here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/contributor/bug-squad-checklists


If you're interested, please let me know which day(s) you would be
available to spend your 15 minutes on.  I'd like to make up a
schedule with (at least) one person for each day of the week.  No,
we're not going to fuss about time zones.

Two "serious" notes:
- I really do mean 15 minutes a week, although I admit that there
  would probably be a total of 60 minutes of reading + training to
  get you accustomed to the work.
- please only volunteer if you really think you can commit to the
  15 minutes per week.  I don't want to make up a beautiful
  schedule and then have people dropping out after a month.

Cheers,
- Graham

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show-break-places, a fantasy

2010-06-16 Thread 胡海鹏 - Hu Haipeng
Hello,
  Here's another serious problem (only with blind). Sighted people can check 
whether the page turn is disturbing the flowing music and troubling the 
players, but for me, I have to ask an assistant for help, since Lilypond can't 
export Musicxml, or Musescore can't open Lilypond file. Furthermore, if I'm 
asking an orchestra to play from a middle position other than rehearsal mark, 
they will search bor bar numbers, because I can't tell them which page and 
which system to begin. Then I'm thinking of an option for accessibility, thus 
writing out number of the bar at the beginning of every line as a line, then 
giving a new line for a new page. For example:
#(ly:set-option show-break-places)
Then in log file:
drawing systems:
(becauie I think the result only comes after generating graphics)
[1][5][10][16][19][24]
[28][34][41][45][50][60]
...
Regards
Haipeng


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Re: seeking more Bug Squad members

2010-06-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
> I'd like it to be 24 hours, since that's a nice round number.  Much rounder 
> than 100.

Actually, 100 (two vertices and two infinite curves) is much rounder than 24 
(six vertices and one finite curve).
Just saying.

Kieren.
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Re: seeking more Bug Squad members

2010-06-16 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Wed 16 Jun 2010, 22:17 Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> > I'd like it to be 24 hours, since that's a nice round number.  Much rounder 
> > than 100.
> 
> Actually, 100 (two vertices and two infinite curves) is much rounder than 24
> (six vertices and one finite curve).
> Just saying.
Actually 24 (oct 30 or hex 18 or bin 100100) is *much* rounder. As for me.

> 
> Kieren.

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Re: bounties

2010-06-16 Thread Marc Hohl

Jonathan Wilkes schrieb:
Writing reports on deliverables isn't overhead, it's documentation of 
new features (which would have to
be done anyway).  Though presentations would certainly be overhead, as 
well as filling out forms, forms,

forms...
 
[...]



On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 08:25:27PM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
[...]
> I am considering to offer commercial support and may be able to do
> that on a part-time basis.  However, working on two bounties has
> illustrated that bounty work can be quite tricky.

Indeed; there's almost no relationship between the amount of work
required and the amount of money being offered.

Until last year, I was member in the TeX users group and Dante
(the german TeX users group), and while I am not sure whether
the number of TeX and lilypond users are comparable (of course
they are, in strict mathematical sense :-), there was a predictable
flow of money due to the member fees. Dante, for example, hired
a professional programmer for recoding TeX in Java, a project
called NTS, and I think this was worth $5000+.

Fulfilling the prejudice concerning Germans and associations
(I wouldn't surely be the ideal person for founding a lilypond
users group), I am willing to spend a fee, say $50 a year, for
supporting the lilypond development. If there are 99 people more
(and I think there are a lot more!), we would have $5000 to pay
someone for improving lilypond.

The major drawback I see is that a organisation has ... err, to be
organized somehow. There's some overhead due to the maintenance
of the members, and all members want to be informed about the
latest news, hence we need something like the Lilypond Report
being printed in regular intervals ... but on the other hand, perhaps
this is not a drawback at all, because an active organisation is
attended more by the public, thus more people see that there is a
free alternative to all the widely accepted notation programs, more
members are acquired, and so on.

I don't know if a discussion like this has been taken yet,
and (probably being not too Germanic :-) I am not very fond of
this organisation stuff at all in general, but I am sure there are people
which cannot work as developers but have the ability to manage stuff ...

Just my 2ct.

Marc


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