Re: Cannot connect tie in a voice of polyphony

2010-01-24 Thread Trevor Daniels


Yuji IMAI 今井雄治" wote Sunday, January 24, 2010 3:00 AM


I found a problem in polyphony.

In version 2.12.2 of lilypond-learning.pdf,
sample of page 51 (section 3.2.1 I’m hearing Voices)
tie connect properly.

But, page 52 of version 2.13.11
tie cannot connect, also voice style does not continue.


Hhm.  This looks like a bug, as I don't recall
any deliberate changes to the continuation of
voice contexts.  If so, it's a regression.  I'll
try to track it down.

Domo arigato gozaimashita

Trevor 





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Leading grace note in alternative ending

2010-01-24 Thread Patrick Karl

The following input results in two problems:

  *  The following message appears in the log file:

warning: already have a volta spanner, ending that one prematurely

I have no idea what that means, nor where to go to find out.

  *  The output pdf file is flawed.  Each alternative ending is  
duplicated, with the grace note being placed into the first of the  
duplications.


Note:  The problem disappears if I eliminate the "T" music and staff,  
or if I add a corresponding grace note to the rests in the  
alternative endings for the "T" music, or if the grace note is not  
the initial note in the alternative endings.


\version "2.12.2"

A = \relative c'' {
\repeat volta 2 {
f1
}
\alternative {
{ \grace f8  g1 }
{ \grace f,8 g1 }
}
}

T = \relative c'' {
\repeat volta 2 {
R1
}
\alternative {
{ R1 }
{ R1 }
}
}

\score {
\new ChoirStaff <<
\new Staff { \A }
\new Staff { \T }
>>
\layout{ }
}

I am attaching the pdf output.


Variatio_25R_dbg6.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Direction of beamlets

2010-01-24 Thread Sven Axelsson
In Scottish bagpipe music it is customary to have the beamlets in a
dotted/cut pair of notes to always point towards the dotted note.
However, the default Lilypond setup for something like

{ c8. c16 c16 c8. }

is to tie the beam for the short notes together. Can I change this behaviour
easily, perhaps by tweaking the auto-beam-settings?

Thanks

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Enabling typographic ligatures ae, oe, st, ct

2010-01-24 Thread Jiri Zurek (Prague)

I can see that Lilypond uses the usual typographic ligatures fi, ffi, fl,
automatically. Is there a way how to enable also other typographic
ligatures, especially: ae, oe, st and ct, so that they would be used
AUTOMATICALLY (i.e. without the need to insert them manually into the
Unicode source code)? I did not find such a function.
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Re: Leading grace note in alternative ending

2010-01-24 Thread -Eluze

a workaround is to add a \grace note in the other staves, too:

T= {
…
…
{ \grace s 8 R1 }
{ \grace s 8 R1 }

hth

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Re: RE; Re nesting curves getting closer

2010-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival  writes:

> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 12:39:51AM +0100, Gilles Sadowski wrote:
>> > > IMHO, perfect would be to *attach* a complete lilypond file, so that 
>> > > people
>> > 
>> > Well, IMO, it's better to have a short file in the body of the email.
>> > Because that way I can look at it and identify errors without having to 
>> > save
>> > an attachment and then open it up in another application.
>> 
>> I don't *have* to save to attachment to just view it.
>
> That's nice.  But like Carl, I find it easier to look at the file
> in the body of an email.

You can use an inline attachment for that, like this:

#(define woozle (make-hash-table 239))
onceinclude = #(define-music-function (parser location str) (string?)
   #{ \include $(if (eq? (car (hash-create-handle! woozle str #t)) str)
   str "/dev/null") #} )

\onceinclude "/dev/null"

This also has the advantage that the mailer is not going to mangle
spaces and line ends.

> That's nice.  I find it easier to copy&paste.

Inline parts give you both.

>> [If you cannot view attached text files inline, I guess that it's a
>> shortcoming of the mail client you use...]
>
> That's nice.

Oh come on.  The above may at worst look a bit wordy if you use a
MIME-incapacitated mail reader.

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Re: Leading grace note in alternative ending

2010-01-24 Thread James Bailey


On 24.01.2010, at 10:51, Patrick Karl wrote:
  *  The output pdf file is flawed.  Each alternative ending is  
duplicated, with the grace note being placed into the first of the  
duplications.


Note:  The problem disappears if I eliminate the "T" music and  
staff, or if I add a corresponding grace note to the rests in the  
alternative endings for the "T" music, or if the grace note is not  
the initial note in the alternative endings.




This observation is correct. Please see the "Known issues and  
warnings" in section 1.2.6 of the notation reference, under Grace notes.



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Re: [2.13.11-1] lilypond-book: duplicate filename but different contents of orginal file

2010-01-24 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
(sorry, top-posted)

Well, i believe this mean that i use the same music fragment in several
different places.

If so, i believe that these warnings do not mean that i'm getting any
troubles with that piece(s).

If so... Sorry for the noise :O)

2.12 does not produce such warnings, that's why i was getting "to feel
unstable".


ps. BTW, typo: "duplicate filename but different contents of orginal
file" --- should be "orIginal file" ?..


У сб, 2010-01-23 у 19:56 +0200, Dmytro O. Redchuk пише:
> Hi, masters!
> 
> Please, help :-)
> 
> Having run lilypond-book (linux, lilypond 2.13.11-1) i've got these
> warnings (note, all is well with lilypond 2.12.3-1):
> 
> % ---8<
> 
> [ ... latex's output ...]
> 
> (./tmpRfG3TY.aux) )
> No pages of output.
> Transcript written on tmpRfG3TY.log.
> Dissecting...
> Writing snippets...lilypond-book: warning: 
> /home/dor/WORK/Scores/Velykden/Utrenja/out/ff/lily-027fa55d.ly: duplicate 
> filename but different contents of orginal file,
> printing diff against existing file.

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2.13.11-1: Y-offset for RehearsalMark?

2010-01-24 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
Hi.

With this example:

% --8<
\header {
  tagline = ""
}

\relative c'' {
  c c c c
  \override Score.RehearsalMark #'Y-offset = #3
  \mark \default
  c c c c
  \override Score.RehearsalMark #'Y-offset = #0
  \mark \default
  c c c c
  \override Score.RehearsalMark #'Y-offset = #1.5
  \mark \default
  c c c c
}
% --8<

... 2.12.3 produces "correct" result ("as expected") while 2.13.11 ---
really unexpected. Attached, please, have i missed something?

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Re: [2.13.11-1] lilypond-book: duplicate filename but different contents of orginal file

2010-01-24 Thread John Mandereau
Le dimanche 24 janvier 2010 à 18:36 +0200, Dmytro O. Redchuk a écrit : 
> Well, i believe this mean that i use the same music fragment in several
> different places.
> 
> If so, i believe that these warnings do not mean that i'm getting any
> troubles with that piece(s).
> 
> If so... Sorry for the noise :O)
> 
> 2.12 does not produce such warnings, that's why i was getting "to feel
> unstable".

You're right that this warning and the printed diff mean nothing more
than the fact you use one snippet twice, and that LilyPond is called
only once by lilypond-book to compile it; these warnings are usually
harmless, but we have suspected hash collisions, that's why we
introduced some code to actually catch occurrences.

For 2.14 I want to make lilypond-book silence out this warning in case
the two snippets differ only by source location.

You're welcome for this kind of noise :-)
Best,
John


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lilypond-book: compiling LaTeX gives too many open files

2010-01-24 Thread Alberto Simões
Hello

Anybody knows how to tweak LaTeX (mactex) raising the number of possible
open files?

I am getting:

pdflatex: 83/lily-ed86b062-3.pdf: Too many
open files

Thanks
Alberto

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Re: 2.13.11-1: Y-offset for RehearsalMark?

2010-01-24 Thread Alexander Kobel

Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote:

Hi.

With this example: [...]
  \override Score.RehearsalMark #'Y-offset = #3
[...] 2.12.3 produces "correct" result ("as expected") while 2.13.11 ---
really unexpected. Attached, please, have i missed something?


Hi, Dmytro,

correct me if I'm wrong, but this looks like the A is actually higher 
than the other two, and has it's baseline exactly 1 staff-space unit 
above the top staff-line.  So I guess the Y-offset is calculated w.r.t. 
the center staff line in 2.13 (Joe: is this a bug?), and you probably 
have to increase the values by 2.
For what you actually wanted, I recommend you use 
'outside-staff-padding, though.



Cheers,
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lilypond-book: titles in the bottom of a page

2010-01-24 Thread Alberto Simões
Hello

Is there any way to tweak lilypond-book in a way it doesn't put titles
in the bottom of pages, and the beginning of the score in the next page?

TIA
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Re: 2.13.11-1: Y-offset for RehearsalMark?

2010-01-24 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
У нд, 2010-01-24 у 18:27 +0100, Alexander Kobel пише:
> Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote:
> > Hi.
> > 
> > With this example: [...]
> >   \override Score.RehearsalMark #'Y-offset = #3
> > [...] 2.12.3 produces "correct" result ("as expected") while 2.13.11 ---
> > really unexpected. Attached, please, have i missed something?
> 
> Hi, Dmytro,
Hi, Alexander,

> correct me if I'm wrong, but this looks like the A is actually higher 
> than the other two, and has it's baseline exactly 1 staff-space unit 
> above the top staff-line.  So I guess the Y-offset is calculated w.r.t. 
> the center staff line in 2.13
Yes, looks like that.

>  (Joe: is this a bug?),
i'd say "looks like that", because internals reference says[1]:
"The vertical amount that this object is moved relative to its
Y-parent."

> and you probably 
> have to increase the values by 2.
:O(

Regression?-)

> For what you actually wanted, I recommend you use 
> 'outside-staff-padding, though.
Thank you :-)

__
1.
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/internals/rehearsalmark#rehearsalmark

> 
> Cheers,
> Alexander

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Octave help

2010-01-24 Thread Michael S. Morales
When I am using Lilypond the program assumes a different octave and no 
matter what I do the the \relative c, it won't change the octave. See 
the code below:


{
\clef treble
\time 4/4
\key g \major
\relative c
  \partial 4 d8 d
  d d g g g4 f8 g
  a g c a b2
  d'4 a8 b c4 b8 c
  d'4 e'8( c) b g a4
  g1
}

Regards,

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Re: lilypond-book: titles in the bottom of a page

2010-01-24 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
У нд, 2010-01-24 у 17:32 +, Alberto Simões пише:
> Hello
Hi!

> Is there any way to tweak lilypond-book in a way it doesn't put titles
> in the bottom of pages, and the beginning of the score in the next page?
This is not lilypond-book, but latex's property to break document on
pages.

If i did understand you right, you might want to read this

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/usage/latex#latex

specifically note this macro:

% -8<--
\def\betweenLilyPondSystem#1{
\ifnum##1<2\else\expandafter\endinput\fi
}
% -8<--

Probably, putting \nopagebreak after the first system (which is the
title and subtitle etc... block) may help.

Sorry, not tested. Hope this helps in some way.

> 
> TIA

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Re: lilypond-book: titles in the bottom of a page

2010-01-24 Thread Alberto Simões
Hello

On 24/01/2010 20:08, Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote:
> \def\betweenLilyPondSystem#1{
> \ifnum##1<2\else\expandafter\endinput\fi
> }

Thanks for the hint. By the way, if anybody maintaining the
documentation reads this, I think it should be #1 and not ##1 (at least
this last gave an error).

In any case, it didn't work out of the box (I get just two scores /
well, title and score). But probably I can tweak it.

THanks

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Re: [Lilypond] half-stopped horn

2010-01-24 Thread Ezequiel Birman
> "JB" == Josiah Boothby  writes:

>> Something like c2^"⊕" should do the trick; it works in my little
>> test sample (using 2.12.3) without needing any tweaking.

> In case it's necessary (or at least useful), the circled-plus
> character appears to be coded as 2295 in UTF-16.

Great!

Before I read your reply i was tring to draw it:

ThreeQuartersStopped = \markup {\postscript #"
0.15 setlinewidth
0.65 0 translate
1 1 scale
0 0 moveto
0 0 0 0.5 0 360 arc
0.5 0 moveto
-0.5 0 lineto
0 0.5 moveto
0 -0.5 lineto
stroke
"
}

I prefer your solution anyway.

How may I compare the ⊕ glyph among the installed fonts?

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Re: Octave help

2010-01-24 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hello.

> When I am using Lilypond the program assumes a different octave and
> no matter what I do the the \relative c, it won't change the octave.
> See the code below:
> 
> {
> \clef treble
> \time 4/4
> \key g \major
> \relative c
>   \partial 4 d8 d
>   d d g g g4 f8 g
>   a g c a b2
>   d'4 a8 b c4 b8 c
>   d'4 e'8( c) b g a4
>   g1
> }

Try to put the music between curly brackets:

 \relative c {
   \partial 4 d8 d
   % ...
 }

Best,
Gilles


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Re: [Lilypond] half-stopped horn

2010-01-24 Thread Ezequiel Birman
> "EB" == Ezequiel Birman  writes:

> How may I compare the ⊕ glyph among the installed fonts?

> -- Ezequiel Birman

http://www.fontmatrix.net/ :)

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Octave help

2010-01-24 Thread wjm

Greetings!
The following code gives the result I think you require!?!
I'm not sufficiently au fait with the subtleties of Lilypond's syntax to 
say 'why' yours doesn't work!


Hope this helps

Regards
Bill
%%%
\version "2.13.10"
{   \clef treble
\time 4/4
\key g \major
\relative c'
{ \partial 4 d8 d
  d d g g g4 f8 g
  a g c a b2
  d4 a8 b c4 b8 c
  d4 e8( c) b g a4
g1   }
}
%%


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RE: Octave help

2010-01-24 Thread James Lowe
take \relative c 'outside' of the braces

 \relative c

{
 \clef treble
 \time 4/4
 \key g \major
   \partial 4 d8 d
   d d g g g4 f8 g
   a g c a b2
   d'4 a8 b c4 b8 c
   d'4 e'8( c) b g a4
   g1
}


-Original Message-
From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org on behalf of 
Michael S. Morales
Sent: Sun 24/01/2010 19:51
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Octave help
 
When I am using Lilypond the program assumes a different octave and no 
matter what I do the the \relative c, it won't change the octave. See 
the code below:

{
 \clef treble
 \time 4/4
 \key g \major
 \relative c
   \partial 4 d8 d
   d d g g g4 f8 g
   a g c a b2
   d'4 a8 b c4 b8 c
   d'4 e'8( c) b g a4
   g1
}

Regards,

Michael



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