Re: svg export
Displays correctly here: Windows XP SP3, Inkscape 0.46, Firefox 3.06. Windows Vista SP1, Inkscape 0.46, Firefox 3.06. (K)Ubuntu 8.04, Inkscape 0.45, Firefox 3.06. Thomas > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Patrick McCarty > wrote: > > I plan on fixing this in the future. When you manage to > install > LilyPond's .otf fonts on your system, see if the attached > SVG file > renders correctly for you. It renders decently in Firefox > 3. > > I forgot to compress it. This one should make it to the list. > > -Patrick > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Again: svg-output, stafflines missing
Hi Thomas, On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Thomas Scharkowski wrote: > Inkscape 0.46 (Windows XPSP3) does not show stafflines for this > example. > > -- > \version "2.12.2" > #(ly:set-option 'backend 'svg) > {c d e f g} > -- > > Am I missing something obvious? > The svg-file Patrick McCarty sent displays correctly. > My svg-file attached. This is a bug with Inkscape that will be fixed for 0.47: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/234562 The fix in Comment 9 (currentColor -> #000) is what I've been using as a temporary workaround. -Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: svg export
2009/2/19 Thomas Scharkowski : > Displays correctly here: > > Windows XP SP3, Inkscape 0.46, Firefox 3.06. > Windows Vista SP1, Inkscape 0.46, Firefox 3.06. > (K)Ubuntu 8.04, Inkscape 0.45, Firefox 3.06. > > Thomas >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Patrick McCarty >> wrote: > > I plan on fixing this in the future. When you manage to >> install > LilyPond's .otf fonts on your system, see if the attached >> SVG file > renders correctly for you. It renders decently in Firefox >> 3. I have copied the otf fonts to ~/.fonts and I see the svg correctly on Ubuntu 8.10, EoG, Inkscape 0.46 and Firefox 3.06 (very small size on screen) -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Again: svg-output, stafflines missing
Thanks, it is really that simple: I replaced "currentColor" with "#000" in the whole svg-file and it works. Thomas > Hi Thomas, > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Thomas Scharkowski > wrote: > > Inkscape 0.46 (Windows XPSP3) does not show stafflines for this > > example. > > > > -- > > \version "2.12.2" > > #(ly:set-option 'backend 'svg) > > {c d e f g} > > -- > > > > Am I missing something obvious? > > The svg-file Patrick McCarty sent displays correctly. > > My svg-file attached. > > This is a bug with Inkscape that will be fixed for 0.47: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/234562 > > The fix in Comment 9 (currentColor -> #000) is what I've been using as > a temporary workaround. > > -Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: svg export
I opened my document with Inkscape 0.46. And then exported to Cairo PDF. The main problem is that I can't install the .otf fonts in Windows: "the font file is maybe dammaged"... The attached svg file renders only some lines in my Inkscape or Firefox... I'm going to test it with Ubuntu 8.10. thanks for your help! On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Patrick McCarty wrote: > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:53 PM, François Labadens > wrote: > > Here is the result. I think some fonts are missing... Windows refuses to > > install the .otf fonts of Lilypond. Is it a reason ? > > Did you try manually installing the fonts in Windows? You might have > to. On GNU/Linux, you can put copies of the OTF fonts in ~/.fonts and > then run fc-cache. > > I see this PDF was created with Cairo. Did you print to PDF using Firefox? > > As far as I know, Firefox does not read the `style' attribute for any > element in an SVG document. I've done numerous tests, and the only > way I can get LilyPond's SVG output to render decently with Firefox is > by using standalone style attributes (like font-family="...") instead > of bundling everything into a style attribute. > > I plan on fixing this in the future. When you manage to install > LilyPond's .otf fonts on your system, see if the attached SVG file > renders correctly for you. It renders decently in Firefox 3. > > I would also recommend testing with Inkscape. > > -Patrick > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: TAB question -- frescobaldi tab support
David Stocker wrote: Standard Electric basses have four strings, so that would probably be useful to most people using a Bass/Tab template. That being said--5, 6, 7 and more strings are becoming more and more common all the time. I think approx. 80 % use 4 string electric bass, 18 % 5 strings and 2 % 6 or more... So maybe you could make a template for 4 strings and 5 strings Or a handy way to choose how many strings you want... \r Dave Wilbert (and David), Am I right that your electric bassguitar template has 6 strings? I think for bass 4 strings would fit better (or maybe 5 strings)... What do you think David? Regards, \r ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Cannot correctly code this rhythm...
RandomLilyPondUser wrote: I figured out the problem, and that code does work, it just didn't work under my score, paper, layout, or drumstaff section. I simply had to put it under the function being called in the drumstaff section. I only have two problems left: 1) since there is only one line on the staff, the bars between the measures don't show, how do I get them back? 2) the measures aren't evenly spaced out, how do I make them all the same size? I've tried these lines of code: \override Score.SpacingSpanner #'strict-note-spacing = ##t \set Score.proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 16) but not all measures are evenly sized, some are fatter, especially those with many septuplets/32nd notes. Besides saying "read the manual", which I've already waded through many times, could anyone provide some constructive help? Either give me a "look at this page" or simply posting the code snippet would save much frustration. Here's how I'd do the OP example, incorporating your flam macro from another thread: --- \version "2.12.2" qBeam = { #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 1 4 'Staff) #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 2 4 'Staff) } snflam = \drummode { \override Stem #'length = #4.5 \acciaccatura {sn8} \revert Stem #'length } tomflam = \drummode { \override Stem #'length = #4.5 \acciaccatura {toml8} \revert Stem #'length } global = { \time 3/4 \set beatLength = #(ly:make-moment 1 16) \set subdivideBeams = ##t } test = \drummode { \qBeam \tomflam sn8-> sn8:32 ~ \stemDown \times 2/3 {toml16 sn toml} \tomflam sn16. toml32 \times 2/3 {sn16 toml sn} \snflam toml8 \tomflam sn8-> sn8:32 ~ \stemDown \times 2/3 {toml16 sn toml} \tomflam sn16. toml32 \times 2/3 {sn16 toml sn} \snflam toml8 } \score { \new DrumStaff { \global \test } \layout { \context { \DrumStaff \override StaffSymbol #'line-count = #1 \override BarLine #'bar-size = #4 % you need this to see the barlines on a single-line drum staff } } % close layout } % close score -- For a drum part with two lines of notes, I'd do it this way; the \voiceOne and \voiceTwo automatically take care of stem directions. \version "2.12.2" up = \drummode { notes go here } down = \drummode { notes go here } \score { \new DrumStaff << \new DrumVoice { \voiceOne \up } \new DrumVoice { \voiceTwo \down } >> \layout { include the stuff from the above example, if necessary } } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: TAB question -- frescobaldi tab support
When I start to work with the Tab features, my guess is that most of what we do (at least initially) will go right to the LSR. That will probably include scores for Gtr./Tab, 7-string Gtr./Tab, and 4, 5 and 6 string Bass/Tab. I really haven't started to explore LilyPond's Tab features. On a related note (related to our efforts in documenting LilyPond's yet-to-be-implemented features Re:Tab), I've started to catalog the different bends that are currently not supported in LilyPond. So far, we have three individuals who wish to be included in the discussion on Tab implementation. If we get about 10, I'll open up a temporary mailing list. If it's just three or four, we can circulate our ideas off-list and then hit up -devel when we have something to propose. Cheers! Dave Grammostola Rosea wrote: David Stocker wrote: Standard Electric basses have four strings, so that would probably be useful to most people using a Bass/Tab template. That being said--5, 6, 7 and more strings are becoming more and more common all the time. I think approx. 80 % use 4 string electric bass, 18 % 5 strings and 2 % 6 or more... So maybe you could make a template for 4 strings and 5 strings Or a handy way to choose how many strings you want... \r Dave Wilbert (and David), Am I right that your electric bassguitar template has 6 strings? I think for bass 4 strings would fit better (or maybe 5 strings)... What do you think David? Regards, \r ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
[Frescobaldi] Bass and Electric Bass template, tab tunings support
Hi all, op woensdag 18 februari 2009, schreef David: > Standard Electric basses have four strings, so that would probably be > useful to most people using a Bass/Tab template. That being said--5, 6, > 7 and more strings are becoming more and more common all the time. Currently Frescobaldi's Bass and Electric Bass template inherit the basic TablaturePart features also found in the other tablature instruments, When tablature (TabStaff) is chosen, it presents the tuning option Bass Tuning (stringTunings = #bass-tuning). If you choose bass tuning, the TabStaff template has four strings. Is that good, or should I add support for other options/tuning? I like to provide UI options for the predefined LilyPond tunings (that are in the docs) and I'm a bit reluctant to add custom tunings, but of course it would be possible to even create a small Custom Tuning Wizard inside the score wizard. Please let me know if that would be an important feature for any of you, or if you have any other wishes/bug report regarding Frescobaldi in general (or use the bug tracker[1]) or it's tablature instrument support in particular. [1] http://code.google.com/p/lilykde/issues/list with many regards, Wilbert Berendsen -- Frescobaldi, LilyPond editor for KDE: http://www.frescobaldi.org/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Strange output from convert-ly
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 08:31:41PM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: > What really concerns me is the possibility that a massive loss of > information could be happening in mutopiaproject, for example. Old story, with an old solution. Volunteer to work on convert-ly (probably as part of the Frogs). When we propose new syntax or syntax updates, get involved and point out any possible problems so that we can address them before adding it to the language. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Strange output from convert-ly
2009/2/19 Graham Percival : > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 08:31:41PM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: >> What really concerns me is the possibility that a massive loss of >> information could be happening in mutopiaproject, for example. > > Old story, with an old solution. Volunteer to work on convert-ly > (probably as part of the Frogs). When we propose new syntax or > syntax updates, get involved and point out any possible problems > so that we can address them before adding it to the language. Well, Spanish translation of the docs is fairly well maintained, don't you agree? :-) I am with you in that every available effort to help development is invaluable. BTW I sent a patch against convert-ly on this thread. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: svg export
Yes, although I don't use them except with Lilypond. I just double-checked and MS Word recognizes the Emmentaler fonts. Tim Reeves Patrick McCarty 02/18/2009 10:51 PM To Tim Reeves cc lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject Re: svg export Hi Tim, On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Tim Reeves wrote: >> >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Patrick McCarty >> wrote: >> > >> > I plan on fixing this in the future. When you manage to install >> > LilyPond's .otf fonts on your system, see if the attached SVG file >> > renders correctly for you. It renders decently in Firefox 3. >> >> I forgot to compress it. This one should make it to the list. >> >> -Patrick > > > Not for me. Lilypond 2.12.2-1 SVG output does not render correctly on > Inkscape 0.46+ development version, Firefox 3 or Opera 9.6, and I have > installed the Emmentaler fonts in my Windows (XP SP2) fonts folder. The > closest to good output is with Inkscape but even there I get open-triangle > noteheads instead of normal noteheads and in the browsers the SVG rendering > is just terrible. Hmm. I'm not incredibly familiar with installing fonts on Windows, but are the Emmentaler fonts recognized by any other programs after you install them? -Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Total invisibility
Hi. > Ah, I understand now. Honestly, I would change the input to reflect what > you want. What you want is a midi voice that is not present in the score. > If I understand correctly, you have typeset this voice into the printed > score. (This is where I learned a lot from Kieren about separating > things.) That's also what I'm trying to achieve but it doesn't always seem possible with LilyPond only. I like having separate input files for the different instruments, but for most projects, I don't think it would be wise to go further and put other tools in the picture such as a preprocessor that would fetch its data from a database! E.g. in this instance, I would have liked to keep the drone notes and the melody notes together (i.e. in the same file) because they both are the bagpipe "content". But that, as we've seen, that makes it difficult to separate the printed from the midi output; hence I had to *separate* contents that belong together (i.e. create the "drone" staff) and then use "\tag"... > I've learned with lilypond to put one thing into a variable. If > there are two voice that are always two voices throughout the entire > piece, then it's easier to type those two voices into separate variables > and combine them in my staff, than to type them both into the same > variable. Of course, that's also what I do. But having the "drone" and "melody" in separate voices is not enough; they had to go in separate staves. Otherwise I would have mixed contents (music) with layout decision, by specifiying a "\tag #'no-layout" in front of the drone "Voice"! Anyway, in the end, it works, with minimal changes :-) Best, Gilles ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] Bass and Electric Bass template, tab tunings support
Wilbert Berendsen wrote: Hi all, op woensdag 18 februari 2009, schreef David: Standard Electric basses have four strings, so that would probably be useful to most people using a Bass/Tab template. That being said--5, 6, 7 and more strings are becoming more and more common all the time. Currently Frescobaldi's Bass and Electric Bass template inherit the basic TablaturePart features also found in the other tablature instruments, When tablature (TabStaff) is chosen, it presents the tuning option Bass Tuning (stringTunings = #bass-tuning). If you choose bass tuning, the TabStaff template has four strings. Is that good, or should I add support for other options/tuning? I think four strings is good, but maybe it would be nice to have a possibility to choose also five strings if you got an five string bass... (I didn't know there are six string basses too, until David told it...) I like to provide UI options for the predefined LilyPond tunings (that are in the docs) and I'm a bit reluctant to add custom tunings, but of course it would be possible to even create a small Custom Tuning Wizard inside the score wizard. Please let me know if that would be an important feature for any of you, or if you have any other wishes/bug report regarding Frescobaldi in general (or use the bug tracker[1]) or it's tablature instrument support in particular. [1] http://code.google.com/p/lilykde/issues/list with many regards, Wilbert Berendsen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Need information about Lyric spacing in Lilypond
I didn't know what your original paper size was - and on my machine it all fit on 1 8x11 page. So I think with adjusting the paper size and font size and then a bit of tweaking it should work fine. Frank Zimmerman wrote: Timothy, Thanks for the sample LY file. I tested it out and for a basic first-run, it is quite impressive. On the other hand, it spreads the song over one and one-third pages of letter size paper, whereas the original was put on a single 6x9 page, so there will be a lot of spacing issues and tweaking required to get it into that smaller format. However, I am encouraged to give it a try, so I will dig into the Lilypond manual and see how it goes. Regards, Frank. Timothy C Litwiller wrote: fzimmerman wrote: I've recently switched my main computer from Windows to Ubuntu Linux. Before this change, I was using Sibelius quite a bit for hymnbook work. I am contemplating a change to Lilypond, but before I invest large amounts of time learning it, I was just hoping that a few experts who have used the program for a while can tell me if it is possible to have absolute control over lyric spacing? With some of the hymns I worked on, an attempt was made to make every phrase fit into one line of music, so as to keep the hymn on one page. This involved really tight spacing control, especially when four or five lyric lines are involved. An excellent example of this can be seen in the following PDF, which I have tried to attach, and will also provide a download link: http://www.practicatechnical.comflowers.pdf . If you take a look at this file, you will see that sometimes to obtain a good readable text layout, words or parts of words had to be moved to the left or right of the note they belonged to. At other times, hyphens were ommitted, so as to save space...this means the word must be spaceable under two notes. It requires quite a bit of control over spacing to achieve this. Sibelius allowed me to do this...can I do the same with Lilypond? If you already have Lilypond install - cut and paste this code into it. There is quite a bit of tweaking you can do. I just typed it in to my basic hymn template with basic rules - no extra tweaking. \version "2.12.0" \include "english.ly" % template for song with no repeating - several verses and a common chorus #(ly:set-option 'midi-extension "midi") \header { title="See How the Flowers Are Arrayed" %poet="Frank Zimmerman" %composer="Frank Zimmerman" tagline="Text and music: Frank Zimmerman" copyright = "(c)2003 Sabbath Rest Advent Church" } \paper { %ragged-bottom=##f %ragged-last-bottom=##f between-system-padding = #0.1 %between-system-space = #0.6 %system-count = #1 %bottom-margin = 3\mm #( define bottom-margin (* 2 mm)) } global = { \key c \major \autoBeamOff \partial 4 \time 4/4 \override Rest #'style = #'classical } %useful functions noteDown = #(define-music-function (parser location note) (ly:music?) #{ << {} \\ $note >> #}) noteUp = #(define-music-function (parser location note) (ly:music?) #{ << $note \\ {} >> #}) leftbrace = \markup { \override #'(font-encoding . fetaBraces) \bold \lookup #"brace105" } rightbrace = \markup { \rotate #180 \leftbrace } skipFour = \repeat unfold 4 { \skip 8 } PartsOne = { \relative c'' { \stemUp g4 g4.^C e8 e4 f4 g4 a4^F d,4^G d4 f4.^Dm d8 d4 e4^Em f4^F g4^G e4^C \bar " " \break g4 g4.e8 e4 f4 g4 a4^F d,4^G g4 a4.^Dm f8 f4 g4^Em a4^F b4^G c4^C \bar " " \break c4 c4.^F a8 a4 b4 c4 b8[ a8] g4^C g4 f4.^Dm d8 d4 e4^Em f4^F g4^G e4^C \bar " " \break c'4 c4.^F a8 a4 b4 c4 b8[ a8] g4^C g4 a4.^Dm f8 f4 g4^Em a4^F b4^G c4^C\fermata } } PartsTwo = { \relative c'' { \stemUp \noteDown g4 e4. c8 c4 d4 e4 f4 \noteDown d4 \noteDown d4 d4. \noteDown d8 \noteDown d4 b4 c4 d4 c4 e4 e4. c8 c4 d4 e4 f4 \noteDown d4 d4 f4. d8 d4 e4 f4 d4 e4 g4 a4. f8 f4 g4 a4 g8[ f8] e4 c4 d4. \noteDown d8 \noteDown d4 b4 c4 d4 c4 g'4 a4. f8 f4 g4 a4 g8[ f8] e4 e4 f4. d8 d4 e4 f4 d4 e4 } } PartsThree = { \relative c' { \stemDown \noteUp g4 g4. g8 g4 b4 c4 c4 b4 b4 \noteUp a4. a8 a4 g4 a4 b4 g4 g4 g4. g8 g4 b4 c4 c4 b4 b4 a4. a8 a4 b4 c4 g4 g4 c4 c4. c8 c4 d4 c4 c4 c4 \noteUp c8[ \noteUp b8] a4. a8 a4 g4 a4 b4 a4 c4 c4. c8 c4 d4 c4 c4 c4 \noteUp c8[ \noteUp b8] a4. a8 a4 b4 c4 g4 g4 } } PartsFour = { \relative c' { \stemDown g4 c,4. c8 c4 c4 c4 f4 g4 g4 a4. f8 f4 e4 c4 g4 c4 c4 c4. c8 c4 c4 c4 f4 g4 g4 d4. d8 c4 b4 f4 g4 c4 e4 f4. f8 f4 f4 f4 f4 c4 e4 d4. f8 f4 e4 d4 g,4 c4 e4 f4. f8 f4 f4 f4 f4 c4 g'4 e4. e8 d4 c4 f,4 g4 c4 } } PartsTop = { \global \clef treble << \PartsOne \PartsTwo >> \bar "|." } PartsBottom = { \global \clef bass \override Rest #'style = #'classical << \PartsThree \PartsFour >> \bar "|." } stanzaOne = \lyricmode { \set stanza = "1. "See how t
Re: [Frescobaldi] Bass and Electric Bass template, tab tunings support
Grammostola Rosea wrote: Wilbert Berendsen wrote: Hi all, op woensdag 18 februari 2009, schreef David: Standard Electric basses have four strings, so that would probably be useful to most people using a Bass/Tab template. That being said--5, 6, 7 and more strings are becoming more and more common all the time. Currently Frescobaldi's Bass and Electric Bass template inherit the basic TablaturePart features also found in the other tablature instruments, When tablature (TabStaff) is chosen, it presents the tuning option Bass Tuning (stringTunings = #bass-tuning). If you choose bass tuning, the TabStaff template has four strings. Is that good, or should I add support for other options/tuning? I think four strings is good, but maybe it would be nice to have a possibility to choose also five strings if you got an five string bass... (I didn't know there are six string basses too, until David told it...) About the bass-tuning. When I do c,4\3 The fret position and the high of the C wasn't what I suspected and which should be the default imho. when I do c4\3 The note is ok, but the fret position not... Regards, \r ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] Bass and Electric Bass template, tab tunings support
Grammostola Rosea wrote: Grammostola Rosea wrote: Wilbert Berendsen wrote: Hi all, op woensdag 18 februari 2009, schreef David: Standard Electric basses have four strings, so that would probably be useful to most people using a Bass/Tab template. That being said--5, 6, 7 and more strings are becoming more and more common all the time. Currently Frescobaldi's Bass and Electric Bass template inherit the basic TablaturePart features also found in the other tablature instruments, When tablature (TabStaff) is chosen, it presents the tuning option Bass Tuning (stringTunings = #bass-tuning). If you choose bass tuning, the TabStaff template has four strings. Is that good, or should I add support for other options/tuning? I think four strings is good, but maybe it would be nice to have a possibility to choose also five strings if you got an five string bass... (I didn't know there are six string basses too, until David told it...) About the bass-tuning. When I do c,4\3 The fret position and the high of the C wasn't what I suspected and which should be the default imho. I mean the fret position is right, the C note not... (one octave to low I think) when I do c4\3 The note is ok, but the fret position not... Regards, \r ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
\break frocing indents?
hi, i'm writing a time-proportional score, and for that (next to using lots of tweaks), i often need to control where the line breaks come manually with \break. now (after having some lines where i did'nt need to control the breaking), i noticed that after each forced line break, the staff on the next rule is indented. is there a way to override this behaviour? thanks! Kristof ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
\natural
Hi! I need to place \natural (in front of a note) like sharp or flat (aes or ais) ignoring any automatic rules. Is it possible? Nikolay -- Nikolay Kirov Kirov http://nikolay.kirov.be/ Office: (+359) 2 979 2850, 2 811 0611 Home: (+359) 2 856 8627, 0887 198 221 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user