Re: Whole note tremolo repeats - bug ?

2009-01-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG

> 1) all stems in non-polyphonic situations should reach
>or cross the middle line.
> 2) Tremolo beams on single stems are placed on the part
>of the stem furthest from the notehead.
> 3) in ambiguous situations involving whole-notes, 
>notation elements are placed as if the whole-notes
>had invisible stems.
> 
> It follows that LilyPond's default violates statement #2.

Looking into the full score of Strauss's `Salome', I can confirm that
(it's one bar before rehearsal number 68, page 50): the position of a
whole note tremolo is exactly the same as if there were a stem.


Werner


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Re: nwc2ly

2009-01-17 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
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On Saturday 17 January 2009 08:28:01 胡海鹏 - Hu Haipeng wrote:
> I don't know how to contact Mike.
> If he can tell me how to make tools for nwc, I'll write a nwc2braille
> myself :-) Could anyone help me?

I can't help you with nwc too much. I just know that there is a nwc2xml 
converter from Noteworthy Compser to MusicXML available:
http://www.geocities.com/juria90/nwc.html
- From MusicXML you can then directly convert to braille using FreeDots:
http://delysid.org/freedots.html

Unfortunately, the nwc2ly converter has some issues and does not always 
produce entirely correct MusicXML... One particular problem is that the 
beaming of 8th notes is broken. 
I don't know if that has an effect on the Braille conversion later on or 
if the freedots authors are aware of them and work around the problems.

Cheers,
Reinhold

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Re:Re: nwc2ly

2009-01-17 Thread 胡海鹏 - Hu Haipeng
Thank you! I just forgot to say, Nwc2xml is t old and always produces 
broken Xml's!!! I ever contacted the maker, but also no reply. I have a lot of 
ways, however, to make braille from Xml. One major project is BrailleMuse in 
Japan, a Java-based online processor. I'm helping the developer to improve the 
output.
Again, if someone can tell me the method to program the Nwc tool, I can try to 
write it myself :-)

Haipeng






在2009-01-17,"Reinhold Kainhofer"  写道:
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>On Saturday 17 January 2009 08:28:01 胡海鹏 - Hu Haipeng wrote:
>> I don't know how to contact Mike.
>> If he can tell me how to make tools for nwc, I'll write a nwc2braille
>> myself :-) Could anyone help me?
>
>I can't help you with nwc too much. I just know that there is a nwc2xml 
>converter from Noteworthy Compser to MusicXML available:
>http://www.geocities.com/juria90/nwc.html
>- From MusicXML you can then directly convert to braille using FreeDots:
>http://delysid.org/freedots.html
>
>Unfortunately, the nwc2ly converter has some issues and does not always 
>produce entirely correct MusicXML... One particular problem is that the 
>beaming of 8th notes is broken. 
>I don't know if that has an effect on the Braille conversion later on or 
>if the freedots authors are aware of them and work around the problems.
>
>Cheers,
>Reinhold
>
>- -- 
>- --
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>email: reinh...@kainhofer.com, http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/
> * Financial and Actuarial Mathematics, TU Wien, 
>http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/
> * K Desktop Environment, http://www.kde.org, KOrganizer maintainer
> * Chorvereinigung "Jung-Wien", http://www.jung-wien.at/
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Re: question about transposing an interval of a 4th - Looks like I found the answer

2009-01-17 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/1/17 Chip :
> I'll take you word for it because I don't know the difference between all
> the transposition types you mention above, haven't even heard of some of
> 'em.

Actually I've only mentioned two types. Suppose you want to transpose
{ c d e f g a b c } a fourth lower. You could think of { g a b c d e f
g } but this result has the following properties:
Firstly it does not sound as a c \major scale as if it had fis instead
of f. I call this a 'mode' (namely mixolidian) that is not a \major or
\minor scale.

Secondly, of course it is not a _constant_ fourth below the c \major
scale, because { b f } is an augmented fourth, not a just fourth as
all others are in this example and always are inside a \major scale,
except { b f }.

So this type of transposition is called diatonic, it has not constant
fourths apart from your initial scale and it looks as a g \major scale
adapted to the c \major note set.

\transpose would have produced { g a b c d e fis g }, this is a 'real'
transposition, it is always a just fourth interval from { c d e, etc.
} and it sounds just like a g \major scale, of course. Your 'manual'
adjustment has to bring the 'fis' back to 'f' so you do not go out of
the c \major note set, this modifies the type of fourth interval from
just to augmented.

Keep interval, let scale to be modified --> real transposition.

Let interval to result modified, keep scale --> diatonic transposition

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Re: Thin bars

2009-01-17 Thread Nicholas Wastell
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:59:47 -0700
Andrew Hawryluk  wrote:

> Evince has a problem with the barlines (it's a bug). On Ubuntu, I work
> in Evince while I'm writing, but I print the final PDF from Adobe
> Acrobat.

xpdf also does a good job and is lighter than Acroread.  It's in the repos.

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Re: Whole note tremolo repeats - bug ?

2009-01-17 Thread Lasse Rempe


I do not have any engraving reference; however I am going by 20+ 
years of experience playing music (this sort of thing shows up in 
orchestral violin parts often). I
A tremolo inside the staff? Very unusual in my experience. I would 
think it would be above the staff, where it would be clearly seen.

Inside the ledger lines, it can in fact not be seen clearly either.



I can say without a doubt that the lilypond output would be 
considered incorrect (and hard to read) by musicians.

I would say the same for the scan.
I would be very interested to see any example of traditional music 
publishing that reproduces or approximates lilypond's usage. I'll note 
that the scan came from an IMSLP public domain score for Tschaikowsky's 
Romeo and Juliet fantasy [and you can find plenty of other scores with 
the same behavior]. As I've mentioned, I have played orchestral music 
for quite some time; violin parts often involve tremolo repeats on high 
notes, and I have never come across something of this kind - which would 
suggest that, at the very least, it is not common practice.


Lasse




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Error when changing font

2009-01-17 Thread Mats Behre

Hi,

When I compile my existing scores with 2.12.1 I get an error like this:

Layout output to 
`AltoSax1.ps'.../Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/scm/framework-ps.scm:293:28:
 In procedure font-file-as-ps-string in expression (font-file-as-ps-string name 
full-name):
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/scm/framework-ps.scm:293:28:
 Wrong number of arguments to #

I have worked around it by adding 0 as the font-index argument at the indicated 
line, and it seems to work, but will that always give the expected result?

Thanks,
Mats


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Re: LilyPond in an Opera magazine

2009-01-17 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Why not put the translation up on the lilypond website?

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Francisco Vila  wrote:
> 2009/1/16 Jonathan Kulp :
>> Thanks for sending this, Francisco!  Congratulations, Valentin!  I found
>> only a couple of things to fix in the English translation.  Patch attached.
>>
>> Jon
>
> Thank you, latest version will always be at
> http://www.paconet.org/opera-actual-v-villenave.zip
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Re: Error when changing font

2009-01-17 Thread James E. Bailey

Wow, I just had that same problem this morning. I was trying to do:
{
   \clef bass
   c d e f
   \override NoteHead #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
   \override Voice.NoteHead #'text = \markup { \override #'(font- 
name . "Palatino Bold " ) { d } }

   c d e f
}

Where did you add the 0?
Am 17.01.2009 um 15:23 schrieb Mats Behre:


Hi,

When I compile my existing scores with 2.12.1 I get an error like  
this:


Layout output to `AltoSax1.ps'.../Applications/LilyPond.app/ 
Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/scm/framework-ps.scm: 
293:28: In procedure font-file-as-ps-string in expression (font- 
file-as-ps-string name full-name):
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/ 
current/scm/framework-ps.scm:293:28: Wrong number of arguments to  
#


I have worked around it by adding 0 as the font-index argument at  
the indicated line, and it seems to work, but will that always give  
the expected result?


Thanks,
Mats


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Re: LilyPond in an Opera magazine

2009-01-17 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/1/17 Han-Wen Nienhuys 
>
> Why not put the translation up on the lilypond website?

If we wait for a little while, there are a couple more interviews that
should be released within days, and where I did mention LilyPond as
well (I called LilyPond a "jewel, undoubtedly the best achievement in
music notation software nowadays"... which is what I do think)!

Cheers,
Valentin


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Re: Whole note tremolo repeats - bug ?

2009-01-17 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/1/17 Lasse Rempe :

> Many thanks - I still think someone should have a look at the default
> behavior in this type of situation.

Granted.
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=734

Cheers,
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Re: Error when changing font

2009-01-17 Thread Mats Behre

This is line 293 of 
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/scm/framework-ps.scm
 after the change:

   (set! embed (font-file-as-ps-string name full-name 0)))

James E. Bailey wrote:

Wow, I just had that same problem this morning. I was trying to do:
{
   \clef bass
   c d e f
   \override NoteHead #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
   \override Voice.NoteHead #'text = \markup { \override #'(font-name . 
"Palatino Bold " ) { d } }

   c d e f
}

Where did you add the 0?
Am 17.01.2009 um 15:23 schrieb Mats Behre:


Hi,

When I compile my existing scores with 2.12.1 I get an error like this:

Layout output to 
`AltoSax1.ps'.../Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/scm/framework-ps.scm:293:28: 
In procedure font-file-as-ps-string in expression 
(font-file-as-ps-string name full-name):
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/scm/framework-ps.scm:293:28: 
Wrong number of arguments to #file-name font-index)>


I have worked around it by adding 0 as the font-index argument at the 
indicated line, and it seems to work, but will that always give the 
expected result?


Thanks,
Mats


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Re: Error when changing font

2009-01-17 Thread James E. Bailey

Wow, you are braver than I. I could never have done that.
Am 17.01.2009 um 20:39 schrieb Mats Behre:

This is line 293 of /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/ 
share/lilypond/current/scm/framework-ps.scm after the change:


   (set! embed (font-file-as-ps-string name full-name 0)))

James E. Bailey wrote:

Wow, I just had that same problem this morning. I was trying to do:
{
   \clef bass
   c d e f
   \override NoteHead #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
   \override Voice.NoteHead #'text = \markup { \override #'(font- 
name . "Palatino Bold " ) { d } }

   c d e f
}
Where did you add the 0?
Am 17.01.2009 um 15:23 schrieb Mats Behre:

Hi,

When I compile my existing scores with 2.12.1 I get an error like  
this:


Layout output to `AltoSax1.ps'.../Applications/LilyPond.app/ 
Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/scm/framework-ps.scm: 
293:28: In procedure font-file-as-ps-string in expression (font- 
file-as-ps-string name full-name):
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/ 
current/scm/framework-ps.scm:293:28: Wrong number of arguments to  
#


I have worked around it by adding 0 as the font-index argument at  
the indicated line, and it seems to work, but will that always  
give the expected result?


Thanks,
Mats


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Re: Error when changing font

2009-01-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Wow, you are braver than I. I could never have done that.
> 
> >(set! embed (font-file-as-ps-string name full-name 0)))

Well, it has been already fixed in the git repository two weeks ago:

  
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/lilypond.git/commit/?id=98dc713cb34b498f145badf23d14957367a19ece


  Werner


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A single word in lyrics italicized?

2009-01-17 Thread Jay Hamilton
I can't find in the doc where/if you can italicize a single word in lyrics 
using \addlyrics or is there a different thing to do?


Yours-
Jay

Jay Hamilton
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206-328-7694


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Re: A single word in lyrics italicized?

2009-01-17 Thread James E. Bailey
I don't usually use \addlyrics, but it should be the same as in the  
section on entering lyrics.


Am 18.01.2009 um 00:33 schrieb Jay Hamilton:

I can't find in the doc where/if you can italicize a single word in  
lyrics using \addlyrics or is there a different thing to do?



Yours-
Jay

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Re: A single word in lyrics italicized?

2009-01-17 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op zondag 18 januari 2009, schreef James E. Bailey:
> Am 18.01.2009 um 00:33 schrieb Jay Hamilton:
> > I can't find in the doc where/if you can italicize a single word in
> > lyrics using \addlyrics or is there a different thing to do?
>
> I don't usually use \addlyrics, but it should be the same as in the
> section on entering lyrics.

there are different ways to do that: One syllabe can be one markup element, 
but an override command is a better solution.

See http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Entering-lyrics

\version "2.12.0"

\relative c' {
  c d e f g
}
\addlyrics {
  One \markup \italic italic word
}

\relative c' {
  c d e f g
}
\addlyrics {
  One
  \markup \italic i --
  \markup \italic ta --
  \markup \italic lic
  word
}

\relative c' {
  c d e f g
}
\addlyrics {
  One
  \override LyricText #'font-shape = #'italic
  i -- ta -- lic
  \revert LyricText #'font-shape
  word
} 



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