Optional \set command in changing \Score context, v.2.11.63
Hi list,
in section 5.1.4 Changing context default settings of the manual it reads
"The \set keyword is optional within the \layout block, so
\context {
…
fontSize = #-2
}
will also work."
At least in case of setting skipBars to ##t within \Score context using
optional \set I get an error message (something about "unexpected SCM
identifier.."). Leaving out \set works.
Either this is a bug or the manual should be changed.
Kind regards,
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Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?
2008/11/4 Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > For us who follow the bug mailing list, it's not a problem to answer these > questions, but it's a bit annoying for the poor > newcomer that she/he has to receive a "next time you have a usage question, > please use the lilypond-user mailing list instead". You have a point... but I still don't think we want to bring more trafic to -user. I agree to say our website is currently not newbie-friendly enough. It needs to be rethought with that in mind (and I will have many concrete proposals to make about that -- in a few weeks, when I get a life). Certainly, the FAQ needs to be rewritten; granted, a page like Francisco's wouldn't hurt. Still, what makes our users hang on, what makes our community strong and pleasant, is that we *do* welcome and help newcomers; not a single "where are teh buttonz" mail ever remains unanswered, and this is (IMNSHO) good. If I had a suggestion to make about the bug-list, that would be to have a dedicated space for newbies (a mailing-list, a forum, or both integrated together thanks to the use of Nabble2). For instance, I know that info-lilypond was originally meant to post announcements, but we could turn it into a general "want informations about lilypond? Post here." list. (And nabble could allow us to embed this list as a forum on our website, it merely requires one line of JavaScript.) Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Text markup stacking
Priority. See Controlling the vertical ordering of scripts in 1.3.1
Articulations and ornamentations
Am 04.11.2008 um 14:09 schrieb Michael Käppler:
Hi guys,
following example:
\version "2.11.63"
<<
\relative c'' {
a4^"blablablablablabla" g f e
d1^"blablabla"
}
>>
How can I decide whether in case of a collision markup two is
stacked on top of markup one or the other way round?
Cheers,
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Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?
On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 02:17:08PM +0100, Valentin Villenave wrote: > 2008/11/4 Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > To save us all from that, it would be great if there was some > > enthusiastic person who liked to read half a dozen mailists, who > > could write weekly or biweekly summaries of anything interesting > > that happened on those mailists. That way we'd all know if we > > missed anything good. These messages -- we could even go so far > > as to call them "reports" -- could also keep the less-active > > members of the community informed. Of course, if these stop > > coming after a few months, we won't have gained anything. > > I'm not sure I get the point -- besides your usual meanness, that is :-) The report was good while it lasted. If we don't have a report, then many people will subscribe to both the -beginner list and the -user list (and maybe even the -devel list). That reduces the effectiveness of multiple mailing lists. If somebody (not necessarily you) were willing to monitor multiple mailing lists and write a newsletter about them every two weeks or so, then I think that inventing a -beginner list is a great idea. If not, then I don't think that -beginner would work so well. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
help
Hi, sorry, I'm trying to do something with Lilypond but I'm afraid there is no option for that. I want to write music with automatic accidentals EVERY note (even if the notes shouldn't need any accidental), like in Second Viennese School music. Is there something to make the program do it automatically? Could somebody help me? Thanks a lot! stefano _ Tutta la posta in un solo posto… scarica Windows Live Mail!!! http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: help
You want the "dodecaphonic" accidental style. It's in 2.11. See the docs on Automatic Accidentals. Cheers, - Graham On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 09:23:18PM +, stefano cucuzzella wrote: >Hi, > >sorry, I'm trying to do something with Lilypond but I'm afraid there is no >option for that. I want to write music with automatic accidentals EVERY >note (even if the notes shouldn't need any accidental), like in Second >Viennese School music. Is there something to make the program do it >automatically? Could somebody help me? > >Thanks a lot! >stefano > > -- > >Windows Live Messenger Fatti ri*conoscere! Crea e scambia i biglietti da >visita di Messenger! > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?
2008/11/4 Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > If somebody (not necessarily you) were willing to monitor multiple > mailing lists and write a newsletter about them every two weeks or > so, then I think that inventing a -beginner list is a great idea. > If not, then I don't think that -beginner would work so well. (I know you know it, but for the record) I am still willing, but can hardly handle it now. Once my work is over (either as a miserable failure or a success) I'll be back in LilyPond business and officially present what I've been up to for the past few months. If we were to create such a list, maybe there we could accept mails in French, German, Spanish, Portuguese and Dutch as well (not for long discussions, but just enough to point users to resources in their languages). Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
The behavior of a \score block
Hello,
I've read Lilypond's documentation, and something has been bothering me: what is
a \score block? I mean what does it actually do? For instance, what is the
difference between entering a \score block and writing \new Score? I haven't
found anything about it in the documentation except concerning its use within a
markup expression.
Besides, it seems that this \score block is delimited with braces, but when you
want to enter music inside, you have to put a music expression inside the block,
with braces once again. Is this correct?
And one more question: are commands such as \new Staff { c d e f } considered as
single music expressions, just like \relative c' {c d e f}?
Thanks for your help.
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Re: Beat grouping and reverting
On 11/4/08 3:44 AM, "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Carl, you wrote Monday, October 27, 2008 12:03 AM >> On 10/26/08 4:44 PM, "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Carl D. Sorensen Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:30 PM In fact, it may be possible to greatly reduce (or even eliminate) explicit settings in scm/auto-beam.scm and replace them with rules from beatGrouping. >>> >>> No, I don't think so. The rules are beam-duration-dependent; >>> beatGrouping and friends are not. This is used to good effect >>> in the rules for pretty well all the time-signatures. So I think >>> we have to retain the rules but without the switch-off-at-any-beat >>> rule. >> >> We could at least eliminate all the rules that are covered by the default >> beatGrouping, and it would make that many fewer rules to revert. >> >> I agree with you about the beam-duration dependent rules -- they need to >> stay to keep the current behavior. > > I removed the turn-off end-at-any-beat-feature from > the beam ending rules a few days ago, and have now just > pushed the rules in 6/8, 9/8 and 12/8 which are covered > by the default beatGrouping, leaving just the rules for > 1/32nd beams. If this causes no problems we could, as > you suggest, add further default beatGroupings to > scm/music-functions.scm and remove those rules which > were made redundant by this. This would leave beam > ending rules just for 1/32 beams and little else, greatly > simplifying the autobeaming (and the docs). > > Should I push on with this change? This sounds reasonable to me. If the regression tests pass, and you've experimented to make sure that the beatGrouping rules match the current rules, then I'd say go ahead. However, you need to understand that I'm not an expert on autobeaming; my main (only?) contribution was to implement beatGrouping. So there could be other consequences of this change that I'm not aware of. With the work you've been doing on rhythms.itely, I'd expect you are now the world expert on LilyPond autobeaming. Thanks, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?
2008/11/4 Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > To save us all from that, it would be great if there was some > enthusiastic person who liked to read half a dozen mailists, who > could write weekly or biweekly summaries of anything interesting > that happened on those mailists. That way we'd all know if we > missed anything good. These messages -- we could even go so far > as to call them "reports" -- could also keep the less-active > members of the community informed. Of course, if these stop > coming after a few months, we won't have gained anything. I'm not sure I get the point -- besides your usual meanness, that is :-) Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?
On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 01:21:44PM +0100, Valentin Villenave wrote: > You have a point... but I still don't think we want to bring more > trafic to -user. I disagree. I'd rather have normal users answering clueless newbie posts rather than you or other people reading bug-lilypond. > I agree to say our website is currently not newbie-friendly enough. Mao, the current website isn't *me*-friendly enough. > If I had a suggestion to make about the bug-list, that would be to > have a dedicated space for newbies (a mailing-list, a forum, or both > integrated together thanks to the use of Nabble2). For instance, I > know that info-lilypond was originally meant to post announcements, > but we could turn it into a general "want informations about lilypond? > Post here." list. I don't support hijacking info-lilypond, but I halfway support a lilypond-beginner list. I promise to never read it, thereby saving numerous beginners from the horror of my accurate RTFM posts. However, I'd be tempted to check it from time to time, in case anything interesting was happening. To save us all from that, it would be great if there was some enthusiastic person who liked to read half a dozen mailists, who could write weekly or biweekly summaries of anything interesting that happened on those mailists. That way we'd all know if we missed anything good. These messages -- we could even go so far as to call them "reports" -- could also keep the less-active members of the community informed. Of course, if these stop coming after a few months, we won't have gained anything. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Beat grouping and reverting
Carl, you wrote Monday, October 27, 2008 12:03 AM On 10/26/08 4:44 PM, "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Carl D. Sorensen Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:30 PM In fact, it may be possible to greatly reduce (or even eliminate) explicit settings in scm/auto-beam.scm and replace them with rules from beatGrouping. No, I don't think so. The rules are beam-duration-dependent; beatGrouping and friends are not. This is used to good effect in the rules for pretty well all the time-signatures. So I think we have to retain the rules but without the switch-off-at-any-beat rule. We could at least eliminate all the rules that are covered by the default beatGrouping, and it would make that many fewer rules to revert. I agree with you about the beam-duration dependent rules -- they need to stay to keep the current behavior. I removed the turn-off end-at-any-beat-feature from the beam ending rules a few days ago, and have now just pushed the rules in 6/8, 9/8 and 12/8 which are covered by the default beatGrouping, leaving just the rules for 1/32nd beams. If this causes no problems we could, as you suggest, add further default beatGroupings to scm/music-functions.scm and remove those rules which were made redundant by this. This would leave beam ending rules just for 1/32 beams and little else, greatly simplifying the autobeaming (and the docs). Should I push on with this change? Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Optional \set command in changing \Score context, v.2.11.63
Thies Albrecht wrote Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:36 AM
in section 5.1.4 Changing context default settings of the manual it reads
"The \set keyword is optional within the \layout block, so
\context {
…
fontSize = #-2
}
will also work."
At least in case of setting skipBars to ##t within \Score context using
optional \set I get an error message (something about "unexpected SCM
identifier.."). Leaving out \set works.
Either this is a bug or the manual should be changed.
You're right. Looks like \set is not accepted in a \layout block.
This shows why we are gradually replacing all the @example code in
the manuals with @lilypond, which invokes a compilation. Errors like
this then show up immediately. I'll look at changing the manual (unless
someone indicates this is actually a bug). Thanks.
Trevor
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Text markup stacking
Hi guys,
following example:
\version "2.11.63"
<<
\relative c'' {
a4^"blablablablablabla" g f e
d1^"blablabla"
}
>>
How can I decide whether in case of a collision markup two is stacked on
top of markup one or the other way round?
Cheers,
Michael
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Re: The behavior of a \score block
I hope you have read the documentation for version 2.11, since
it has been heavily revised and improved compared to the
documentation for version 2.10 (and it applies almost completely
also to version 2.10 if you happen to use that).
In particular, you should find answers to most of your questions
in section 3.1 "How LilyPond input files work" of the Learning
manual.
/Mats
Dany wrote:
Hello,
I've read Lilypond's documentation, and something has been bothering me: what is
a \score block? I mean what does it actually do? For instance, what is the
difference between entering a \score block and writing \new Score? I haven't
found anything about it in the documentation except concerning its use within a
markup expression.
Besides, it seems that this \score block is delimited with braces, but when you
want to enter music inside, you have to put a music expression inside the block,
with braces once again. Is this correct?
And one more question: are commands such as \new Staff { c d e f } considered as
single music expressions, just like \relative c' {c d e f}?
Thanks for your help.
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Re: Output Media
Am 2008-10-31 um 13:10 schrieb Thermo: Does anyone have a reference or guide to paper quality and paper weights for printing the scores? Has anyone printed to T-Shirts or other media? I mostly typeset songbooklets, and those get printed on "default" 80g offset/xerox paper; our church magazine (containing some LilyPond scores) uses something like LWC (but suitable for sheet offset). If your shirt printer can handle PDF at all, there shouldn't be any problems. But e.g. Cafepress only takes bitmapped graphics. Original vector data makes better quality. On the other hand, a score is too finegrained for flex or flock "print" film. Greetlings from Lake Constance --- fiëé visuëlle Henning Hraban Ramm http://www.fiee.net http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/ https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
lilypond-book: "Output would overwrite input file" error
Hi All,
I'm getting to know lilypond-book, both with html and LaTeX source
files, running running Ubuntu 8.04 with 2.11.63.
As suggested in the manual, I've specifed an output directory (
--output=out). So let's say my source file is
~/Book/filename.lytex
and my output directory is
~/Book/out/
I also have a couple of other \input{foobar.tex} files and am trying to
include lily source files with \lilypondfile{foobar.ly}, stuff like that.
What I've found is that the first invocation of lilypond-book on the
source file works fine, but the next time I run it after making
changes to the sourcefile, it won't compile. It took me a while to find
the problem in the massive amounts of terminal output, but the culprit
is apparently this one:
"lilypond-book: error: Output would overwrite input file; use --output."
What I've deduced from this is that lilypond-book must first make a copy
of my source file and put it in the output directory, then use that as
the input file. Is this correct? Because when I remove the .tex files
from the output directory and run lilypond-book on the original
filename.lytex (in the main directory), it compiles correctly and
creates the desired output. My question is this: shouldn't the "input
file" really be the one that's NOT in the output directory? In other
words, why doesn't lilypond-book take the command-line argument as the
input file instead of the file that it has put in the output directory?
Is there a command-line option (such as the -e flag for convert-ly) that
would allow overwriting the files?
I've made a workaround by adding cleanup lines to my lilybook
script to remove .tex files from the output directory, but it seems to
me that the program should use the argument of the lilypond-book command
as the input file and then overwrite the files inside the output
directory instead of returning errors saying that output would overwrite
the input file.
I don't remember this happening when using lilypond-book on the .itely
files for the GDP. Is it designed this way to avoid deleting files
inadvertently?
Best,
Jon
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Re: The behavior of a \score block
2008/11/4 Dany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I've read Lilypond's documentation, and something has been bothering me: what
> is
> a \score block? I mean what does it actually do? For instance, what is the
> difference between entering a \score block and writing \new Score? I haven't
> found anything about it in the documentation except concerning its use within
> a
> markup expression.
A \score block is a top-level expression, like \book or \paper.
A \score block may include its own \header or a \layout block, whereas
\new Score won't allow you to do so.
> Besides, it seems that this \score block is delimited with braces, but when
> you
> want to enter music inside, you have to put a music expression inside the
> block,
> with braces once again. Is this correct?
\score does not automatically create contexts (whereas \new Score
does) ; therefore you have to create one inside it.
{ c } is equivalent to \new Score { \new Staff { \new Voice { c } } }
> And one more question: are commands such as \new Staff { c d e f } considered
> as
> single music expressions, just like \relative c' {c d e f}?
Yes. Anything can be regarded as a "single" music expression (even if
it contains nested sub-expressions), see the Wagner example in the
docs.
Cheers,
Valentin
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Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?
Regarding those newbies who are looking for a GUI: Why don't we publish a screenshot or two? Users are looking for screenshots if they evaluate a new application (at least I do), and if we show a shot of a terminal window of a LilyPond session and another of some text editor with a piece of score, and add a comment like "yes, that's how LilyPond looks", perhaps we could reduce those noob questions a bit. Greetlings from Lake Constance --- fiëé visuëlle Henning Hraban Ramm http://www.fiee.net http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/ https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?
The only problem is that the screenshot will look very different depending on what your favorite text editor looks like. For Windows, we could certainly show a screenshot using the Lilypad editor, but it's far from the best editor. If you want selling screenshots, see http://lilypondtool.organum.hu/demo.html /Mats fiëé visuëlle wrote: Regarding those newbies who are looking for a GUI: Why don't we publish a screenshot or two? Users are looking for screenshots if they evaluate a new application (at least I do), and if we show a shot of a terminal window of a LilyPond session and another of some text editor with a piece of score, and add a comment like "yes, that's how LilyPond looks", perhaps we could reduce those noob questions a bit. Greetlings from Lake Constance --- fiëé visuëlle Henning Hraban Ramm http://www.fiee.net http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/ https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing School of Electrical Engineering Royal Institute of Technology (KTH) SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?
Am 2008-11-04 um 21:10 schrieb Mats Bengtsson: fiëé visuëlle wrote: Regarding those newbies who are looking for a GUI: Why don't we publish a screenshot or two? Users are looking for screenshots if they evaluate a new application (at least I do), and if we show a shot of a terminal window of a LilyPond session and another of some text editor with a piece of score, and add a comment like "yes, that's how LilyPond looks", perhaps we could reduce those noob questions a bit. The only problem is that the screenshot will look very different depending on what your favorite text editor looks like. For Windows, we could certainly show a screenshot using the Lilypad editor, but it's far from the best editor. If you want selling screenshots, see http://lilypondtool.organum.hu/demo.html The editor doesn't matter. It's important to show a command line. One of Windows would be enough, I guess. Linux users are seldom surprised if they must use the shell. And OSX users have other problems ;) Greetlings from Lake Constance --- fiëé visuëlle Henning Hraban Ramm http://www.fiee.net http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/ https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?
2008/11/4 fiëé visuëlle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Am 2008-11-04 um 21:10 schrieb Mats Bengtsson: > >> fiëé visuëlle wrote: >>> >>> Regarding those newbies who are looking for a GUI: >>> >>> Why don't we publish a screenshot or two? >>> >>> Users are looking for screenshots if they evaluate a new application (at >>> least I do), and if we show a shot of a terminal window of a LilyPond >>> session and another of some text editor with a piece of score, and add a >>> comment like "yes, that's how LilyPond looks", perhaps we could reduce those >>> noob questions a bit. >> >> The only problem is that the screenshot will look very >> different depending on what your favorite text editor >> looks like. For Windows, we could certainly show a >> screenshot using the Lilypad editor, but it's far from the >> best editor. If you want selling screenshots, see >> http://lilypondtool.organum.hu/demo.html > > The editor doesn't matter. It's important to show a command line. I don´t agree. If I have jEdit and LilyPondTool I DON´T NEED the command line. So why should we shock newcomers with a command line? I know two people using LilyPond to typeset beautiful music who are not familiar with the command line, maybe they even don´t know what exactly the command line is used for. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
opening on my web site
Printed my song. It looks wonderful. Put it on my web site. Was unable to open it. Scanned it into computer. Then uploaded scanned copy to my web site. But have a problem with my web site or scanner because the copy is enlarged when viewing. Is there a way that I can get program to open on my web site? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?
Thanks for all suggestions and ideas. However, I think that the main answer to my initial question was given by Valentin in http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-11/msg00048.html For us who follow the bug mailing list, it's not a problem to answer these questions, but it's a bit annoying for the poor newcomer that she/he has to receive a "next time you have a usage question, please use the lilypond-user mailing list instead". I don't really see the point of linking to the bug mailing list on the installation web page. Also, I'm not sure that title "Packager" of the right-most column is the most relevant. For people who have found the information about all the different mailing lists, I think it's not any major problem to figure out which one to use. /Mats Quoting Laura Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: "David" == David Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: David> Perhaps every time the bugs list is mentioned anywhere, it should come David> with a notice "The bugs list is for the Lilypond programmers only. For David> any kind of help with the software, please write to [link to user David> list]". David> I know, that part about programmers is perhaps not strictly 100% true, David> but it's what newbies should hear. I disagree. Reporting bugs has nothing to do with programming. How about: The bugs list is for experienced lilypond users to report malfunctions in the software. If you're having trouble learning to use the software, you can get help on the lilypond-user list. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.laymusic.org/ ) (617) 661-8097 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 G.P. 7: Never despise a drink because it is easy to make and/or uses commercial mixes. Unquestioning devotion to authenticity is, in any department of life, a mark of the naïve -- or worse. Kingsley Amis, _On Drink_ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: opening on my web site
are you talking about uploading a .pdf file to your site? I had problems with this once and solved it by specifying "binary" mode when using ftp to transfer the files to the server. HTH, Jon Ben Podgor wrote: Printed my song. It looks wonderful. Put it on my web site. Was unable to open it. Scanned it into computer. Then uploaded scanned copy to my web site. But have a problem with my web site or scanner because the copy is enlarged when viewing. Is there a way that I can get program to open on my web site? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: opening on my web site
Are you trying to open the .pdf from the website from within a browser? You'll need a browser plug-in (like Adobe Reader) that can open .pdf from within the browser. Otherwise, you'll have to download the file and open it with whatever standalone program you use to read .pdf files. -Dave Ben Podgor wrote: Printed my song. It looks wonderful. Put it on my web site. Was unable to open it. Scanned it into computer. Then uploaded scanned copy to my web site. But have a problem with my web site or scanner because the copy is enlarged when viewing. Is there a way that I can get program to open on my web site? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Why do so many newcomers post to bug-lilypond?
> Regarding those newbies who are looking for a GUI:> Why don't we publish a > screenshot or two? With regards to the many very-valid-varied comments, maybe should be a "gallery" of how people do work with LP? I personally use my own editor, and surely see different screen shots than probably everybody! I'm sure I could provide a cool shot of TWO Windows DOS screens! Seriously - I saw a link to a jEdit/Lilypond Tool page in this thread, and it showed me a lot I'd never thought about or seen before. From my Microsoft/PC perspective, shots showing how the files look in several editors seems like a good idea to me. Certainly I was drawn to Lilypond by finding out how it worked, but it seems that many times you have to beat people "upside the head" with technical instructions any more. So a lot of pictures might be a good idea, and/or a resource to see/read descriptions of how to work with different tools. THAT might be a way to get the point across that LP is not only different/better/free but allows you to find the way that works best for your tastes. Some people might actually LIKE Notepad!! > Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:41:17 +0100> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > lilypond-user@gnu.org> Subject: Re: Why do so many newcomers post to > bug-lilypond?> > 2008/11/4 fiëé visuëlle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> >> > Am > 2008-11-04 um 21:10 schrieb Mats Bengtsson:> >> >> fiëé visuëlle wrote:> > >>> Users are looking for screenshots if they evaluate a new application > (at> >>> least I do), and if we show a shot of a terminal window of a > LilyPond> >>> session and another of some text editor with a piece of score, > and add a> >>> comment like "yes, that's how LilyPond looks", perhaps we > could reduce those> >>> noob questions a bit.> >>> >> The only problem is > that the screenshot will look very> >> different depending on what your > favorite text editor> >> looks like. For Windows, we could certainly show a> > >> screenshot using the Lilypad editor, but it's far from the> >> best > editor. If you want selling screenshots, see> >> > http://lilypondtool.organum.hu/demo.html> >> > The editor doesn't matter. > It's important to show a command line.> > I don´t agree. If I have jEdit and > LilyPondTool I DON´T NEED the command line.> So why should we shock newcomers > with a command line?> I know two people using LilyPond to typeset beautiful > music who are> not familiar with the command line, maybe they even don´t know > what> exactly the command line is used for.> > > > ___> lilypond-user mailing list> > lilypond-user@gnu.org> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user _ Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
contribute some context defs
Hello,
During some months' work, and getting your kind help, I have made up many
defs in a large file which I always include. It contains many defs grm
mailinglist and LSR. Now, I'd like to share some context defs with you. I don't
know whether they are correct, but I hope these will be of use, and ease your
further work. It is better to even make them as patches and come with the next
version (of course, the duplicated code must be reduced):
%% Layout to produce piano dynamics context
\layout {
\context {
\type "Engraver_group"
\name Dynamics
\alias Voice
\consists "Output_property_engraver"
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-1 . 1)
\override DynamicLineSpanner #'Y-offset = #0
pedalSustainStrings = #'("Ped." "*Ped." "*")
pedalUnaCordaStrings = #'("una corda" "" "tre corde")
\consists "Piano_pedal_engraver"
\consists "Script_engraver"
\consists "New_dynamic_engraver"
\consists "Dynamic_align_engraver"
\consists "Text_engraver"
\override TextScript #'font-size = #2
\override TextScript #'font-shape = #'italic
\consists "Skip_event_swallow_translator"
\consists "Axis_group_engraver"
}
\context {
\PianoStaff
\accepts "Dynamics"
\override Glissando #'breakable = ##t
\override TextSpanner #'breakable = ##t
\override DynamicSpanner #'breakable = ##t
}
}
%% layout to create orchestra staff group
%% with non-spanned barlines amoung sub instrument groups (InnerStaffGroup)
\layout {
\context {
\StaffGroup
\name Orchestra
\remove "Span_bar_engraver"
}
\context {
\Score
\accepts Orchestra
}
}
%% Layout to produce ChordMarks context
%% for doing harmony exercises using different harmony indications
%% Chord marks are entered as text markups,
%% and you must turn text length on
\layout {
\context {
\type "Engraver_group"
\name ChordMarks
\alias Voice
\consists "Output_property_engraver"
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-1 . 1)
\consists "Script_engraver"
\consists "Text_engraver"
\override TextScript #'font-size = #2
\consists "Skip_event_swallow_translator"
\consists "Axis_group_engraver"
}
\context {
\Orchestra
\accepts ChordMarks
}
\context {
\StaffGroup
\accepts ChordMarks
}
\context {
\PianoStaff
\accepts "ChordMarks"
}
}
%% Layout to produce MarkLine context
%% to place rehearsal marks and texts above full score
\layout {
\context {
\type "Engraver_group"
\name "MarkLine"
\consists "Output_property_engraver"
\consists "Axis_group_engraver"
\consists "Mark_engraver"
\consists "Metronome_mark_engraver"
\consists "Script_engraver"
\consists "Text_engraver"
\consists "Text_spanner_engraver"
\consists "Font_size_engraver"
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-2 . 2 )
}
\context {
\Orchestra
\accepts "MarkLine"
}
\context {
\StaffGroup
\accepts "MarkLine"
}
\context {
\InnerStaffGroup
\accepts "MarkLine"
}
}
%% layout to produce a markline occupying fewer vertical space.
%% usage: put before 1st violin part
\layout {
\context {
\MarkLine
\name "SmallMarkLine"
\override MetronomeMark #'outside-staff-priority = #800
\override RehearsalMark #'outside-staff-priority = #1200
}
\context {
\Orchestra
\accepts SmallMarkLine
}
\context {
\StaffGroup
\accepts SmallMarkLine
}
\context {
\InnerStaffGroup
\accepts SmallMarkLine
}
}
%% Layout to produce SquareStaff context
%% to group similar instruments in a staff group with thin square bracket
\layout {
\context {
\InnerStaffGroup
\name SquareStaff
systemStartDelimiter = #'SystemStartSquare
}
\context {
\Orchestra
\accepts SquareStaff
}
\context {
\StaffGroup
\accepts SquareStaff
}
\context {
\InnerStaffGroup
\accepts SquareStaff
}
}
Sincerely
Haipeng
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Re: contribute some context defs
Thanks for sharing your definitions. However, don't forget to tell
what LilyPond version you are using, since these definitions are
likely to be version dependent.
/Mats
??Hu Haipeng wrote:
Hello,
During some months' work, and getting your kind help, I have made up
many defs in a large file which I always include. It contains many
defs grm mailinglist and LSR. Now, I'd like to share some context defs
with you. I don't know whether they are correct, but I hope these will
be of use, and ease your further work. It is better to even make them
as patches and come with the next version (of course, the duplicated
code must be reduced):
%% Layout to produce piano dynamics context
\layout {
\context {
\type "Engraver_group"
\name Dynamics
\alias Voice
\consists "Output_property_engraver"
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-1 . 1)
\override DynamicLineSpanner #'Y-offset = #0
pedalSustainStrings = #'("Ped." "*Ped." "*")
pedalUnaCordaStrings = #'("una corda" "" "tre corde")
\consists "Piano_pedal_engraver"
\consists "Script_engraver"
\consists "New_dynamic_engraver"
\consists "Dynamic_align_engraver"
\consists "Text_engraver"
\override TextScript #'font-size = #2
\override TextScript #'font-shape = #'italic
\consists "Skip_event_swallow_translator"
\consists "Axis_group_engraver"
}
\context {
\PianoStaff
\accepts "Dynamics"
\override Glissando #'breakable = ##t
\override TextSpanner #'breakable = ##t
\override DynamicSpanner #'breakable = ##t
}
}
%% layout to create orchestra staff group
%% with non-spanned barlines amoung sub instrument groups
(InnerStaffGroup)
\layout {
\context {
\StaffGroup
\name Orchestra
\remove "Span_bar_engraver"
}
\context {
\Score
\accepts Orchestra
}
}
%% Layout to produce ChordMarks context
%% for doing harmony exercises using different harmony indications
%% Chord marks are entered as text markups,
%% and you must turn text length on
\layout {
\context {
\type "Engraver_group"
\name ChordMarks
\alias Voice
\consists "Output_property_engraver"
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-1 . 1)
\consists "Script_engraver"
\consists "Text_engraver"
\override TextScript #'font-size = #2
\consists "Skip_event_swallow_translator"
\consists "Axis_group_engraver"
}
\context {
\Orchestra
\accepts ChordMarks
}
\context {
\StaffGroup
\accepts ChordMarks
}
\context {
\PianoStaff
\accepts "ChordMarks"
}
}
%% Layout to produce MarkLine context
%% to place rehearsal marks and texts above full score
\layout {
\context {
\type "Engraver_group"
\name "MarkLine"
\consists "Output_property_engraver"
\consists "Axis_group_engraver"
\consists "Mark_engraver"
\consists "Metronome_mark_engraver"
\consists "Script_engraver"
\consists "Text_engraver"
\consists "Text_spanner_engraver"
\consists "Font_size_engraver"
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-2 . 2 )
}
\context {
\Orchestra
\accepts "MarkLine"
}
\context {
\StaffGroup
\accepts "MarkLine"
}
\context {
\InnerStaffGroup
\accepts "MarkLine"
}
}
%% layout to produce a markline occupying fewer vertical space.
%% usage: put before 1st violin part
\layout {
\context {
\MarkLine
\name "SmallMarkLine"
\override MetronomeMark #'outside-staff-priority = #800
\override RehearsalMark #'outside-staff-priority = #1200
}
\context {
\Orchestra
\accepts SmallMarkLine
}
\context {
\StaffGroup
\accepts SmallMarkLine
}
\context {
\InnerStaffGroup
\accepts SmallMarkLine
}
}
%% Layout to produce SquareStaff context
%% to group similar instruments in a staff group with thin square bracket
\layout {
\context {
\InnerStaffGroup
\name SquareStaff
systemStartDelimiter = #'SystemStartSquare
}
\context {
\Orchestra
\accepts SquareStaff
}
\context {
\StaffGroup
\accepts SquareStaff
}
\context {
\InnerStaffGroup
\accepts SquareStaff
}
}
Sincerely
Haipeng
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Re: contribute some context defs
2008/11/4 胡Hu Haipeng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > During some months' work, and getting your kind help, I have made up many > defs in a large file which I always include. It contains many defs grm > mailinglist and LSR. Now, I'd like to share some context defs with you. Greetings Haipeng, Nice work! If you can write a (very very short) example that uses some of these contexts, I will happily add it to the LSR for you, in the "stylesheet" category. Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond versus … everything else
Cordilow wrote: This isn't a technical question about how to use Lilypond, but rather I'm wondering if other programs are capable of doing all that Lilypond can. It seems like there are quite a lot of things in LilyPond I that I suspect other programs don't even offer. Is this true? For instance, can you make analysis brackets in any other program? I.e. Finale, Sibelius, MuseScore, NoteEdit, ABC, etc. It's certainly true that Lily's text file approach allows a great deal of control that isn't easy or even possible in other software. E.g. it's reasonably straightforward to make Schenker diagrams with Lily. http://m.linuxjournal.com/article/8364 Also of interest is frequent list contributor Andrew Hawryluk's comparison of Lily with Finale; there you'll see that Lily's default spacings etc. are a lot better that most "industry standard" programs. http://www.musicbyandrew.ca/finale-lilypond-1.html ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
