Re: A few suggestions for Documentation 7.3 "Vocal music"

2007-06-18 Thread Valentin Villenave

2007/6/18, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


The lack of a patch is very unfortunate, especially in something this
long.  I'm not comfortable blindly replacing the entire doc section with
this new one, but it's very difficult to see exactly what is being
changed.  Could we at least split up the changes?


My bad; here's the patch. It's a pity I didn't propose any changes
sooner; while translating the doc, I often find possible minor
improvements, it never occurred to me that I could officially propose
them...

Regards,
Valentin
--- instrument-notation.itely	2007-06-18 10:09:27.0 +0200
+++ instrument-notation (copie).itely	2007-06-18 10:23:44.0 +0200
@@ -656,7 +656,6 @@
 @code{< .. >} syntax.
 
 
-
 @node Vocal music
 @section Vocal music
 
@@ -673,21 +672,20 @@
 Song texts must be aligned with the notes of their melody.
 @end itemize
 
-There are a few different ways to define lyrics; the simplest
-way is to use the @code{\addlyrics} function.
+There are a few different ways to define lyrics; let's try to present
+each one of them,
+starting with the simplest.
 
 @menu
-* Setting simple songs::
-* Entering lyrics:: 
-* Hyphens and extenders::   
-* The Lyrics context::  
-* Melismata::   
-* Another way of entering lyrics::  
-* Flexibility in placement::
-* Spacing lyrics::  
-* More about stanzas::  
-* Ambitus:: 
-* Other vocal issues::  
+* Setting simple songs::
+* Entering lyrics::
+* Aligning lyrics to a melody::
+* Working with lyrics and identifiers::
+* Flexibility in placement::
+* Spacing lyrics::
+* More about stanzas::
+* Ambitus::
+* Other vocal issues::
 @end menu
 
 
@@ -704,12 +702,12 @@
 To make lyrics avoid barlines as well, use
 @example
 \layout @{
-  \context @{
-\Lyrics
-  \consists "Bar_engraver"
-  \consists "Separating_line_group_engraver"
-  \override BarLine #'transparent = ##t
-  @}
+ \context @{
+   \Lyrics
+ \consists "Bar_engraver"
+ \consists "Separating_line_group_engraver"
+ \override BarLine #'transparent = ##t
+ @}
 @}
 @end example
 
@@ -744,7 +742,8 @@
 @end lilypond
 
 The command @code{\addlyrics} cannot handle polyphony settings.  For these
-cases you should use @code{\lyricsto} and @code{\lyricmode}.
+cases you should use @code{\lyricsto} and @code{\lyricmode}, as we'll see in
+the following sections.
 
 
 
@@ -754,65 +753,54 @@
 @cindex lyrics
 @funindex \lyricmode
 @cindex punctuation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] spaces, in lyrics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] quotes, in lyrics
 
-Lyrics are entered in a special input mode.  This mode is introduced
+Lyrics are entered in a special input mode, which can be introduced
 by the keyword @code{\lyricmode}, or by using @code{\addlyrics} or
 @code{\lyricsto}.  In this mode you can enter lyrics,
 with punctuation and accents, and the input @code{d} is not parsed as
-a pitch, but rather as a one letter syllable.  Syllables are entered
-like notes, but with pitches replaced by text.  For example,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-\lyricmode @{ Twin-4 kle4 twin- kle litt- le star2 @}
[EMAIL PROTECTED] example
-
-There are two main methods to specify the horizontal placement
-of the syllables, either by specifying the duration of each syllable
-explicitly, like in the example above, or by automatically aligning
-the lyrics to a melody or other voice of music, using @code{\addlyrics}
-or @code{\lyricsto}.  For more details see @ref{The Lyrics context}.
+a pitch, but rather as a one letter syllable.
 
 A word or syllable of lyrics begins with an alphabetic character, and ends
-with
-any space or digit.  The following characters can be any character
-that is not a digit or white space.  One important consequence of this
-is that a word can end with @[EMAIL PROTECTED]  The following example is
-usually a mistake in the input file.  The syllable includes a @[EMAIL PROTECTED], so
-the
-opening brace is not balanced
+with any @emph{space} or @[EMAIL PROTECTED] full
+definition of a word start in Lyrics mode is somewhat more
+complex, so let's make it quick. A word in Lyrics mode can begin with:
+an alphabetic character, @code{_},
[EMAIL PROTECTED], @code{!}, @code{:}, @code{'}, the control characters @code{^A}
+through @code{^F}, @code{^Q} through @code{^W}, @code{^Y}, @code{^^},
+any 8-bit character with ASCII code over 127, or a two-character
+combination of a backslash followed by one of @code{`}, @code{'},
[EMAIL PROTECTED]"}, or @code{^}.}.  Any character that is not a digit or white space
+will be regarded as part of the syllable; one important consequence of this
+is that a word can end with @[EMAIL PROTECTED], which often leads to the
+following mistake:
+
 @example
-\lyricmode @{ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+\lyricmode @{ lah- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 @end example
 
+In this example, the @[EMAIL PROTECTED] is included in the final syllable, so
+the opening brace is not balanced and the input file will probably not compile.
+
+

Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?

2007-06-18 Thread Joe Neeman
On Monday 09 April 2007 20:38, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> [ Lilypond 2.11.12 ; Mac OS X 10.4.9 ]
>
> Hello, all!
>
> In recent versions of Lilypond, I find that the first element of
> every measure is generally too close to the preceding barline for my
> taste -- i.e., there isn't enough left-padding on the first note or
> rest or whatever (n.b., the spacing issue is especially egregious
> when the first item is an accidental, arpeggio, or other "note
> attachment").

I've had some lilypond hacking time recently, so I've been digging into the 
spacing code. The stuff I'm trying to do is nowhere near complete and I don't 
yet understand the code fully, but I've put what I have so far in 
the "jneeman" branch of the git repository. If anyone is sufficiently 
motivated and technically able to build lilypond from git, I'd appreciate 
some feedback on the spacing changes.

I'll attach a PNG of the new output on an example that was provided by Kieren 
elsewhere in this thread.

Joe
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Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?

2007-06-18 Thread Adam Good

On Jun 18, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Joe Neeman wrote:

I'll attach a PNG of the new output on an example that was provided  
by Kieren

elsewhere in this thread.

Joe



Joe would you mind to post your code for this fix? Looks better indeed.

thanks

adam


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Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?

2007-06-18 Thread Joe Neeman
On Monday 18 June 2007 20:12, Adam Good wrote:
> On Jun 18, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Joe Neeman wrote:
> > I'll attach a PNG of the new output on an example that was provided
> > by Kieren
> > elsewhere in this thread.
> >
> > Joe
> > 
>
> Joe would you mind to post your code for this fix? Looks better indeed.

The code is available in the "jneeman" branch of the public lilypond git 
repository. There are compiling instructions available on 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL.html

Assuming you have the dependencies installed, you can get the code with
$ git clone git://git.sv.gnu.org/lilypond.git
$ cd lilypond
$ git checkout jneeman
$ ./autogen.sh
$ ./configure
$ make all


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opening Ly-files

2007-06-18 Thread Hombergh Henri van den GTZ VN
Dear Colleagues,

I have started to download Ly-files from the Mutopia website only
recently. I have obviously installed Lilypond. Most of the time if I try
to open a Ly-file, only a small txt-fiel is made with the text: #
-*-compilation-*-Changing working directory to `D:/music pdf files/L v
Beethoven Quartet Opus18 No4' Processing `D:/music pdf files/L v
Beethoven Quartet Opus18 No4/violinoone.ly' Parsing...

But a PS or Pdf file is not created in the same directory or anywhere
else on the hard disk

I have attached these 4 files, because it does not work with any of
them. 

Can anybody help??

Thanks

 Henri 

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cello.ly
Description: cello.ly


viola.ly
Description: viola.ly


violinoone.ly
Description: violinoone.ly


violinotwo.ly
Description: violinotwo.ly
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Re: opening Ly-files

2007-06-18 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I'm afraid that you will have to learn some basics about LilyPond to be 
able to do something useful at all with the program. Then, you will be 
able to quickly realize that none of these

files will produce any output, since they don't contain any
(explicit or implicit) \score{...} block. The file 
QuartetOpus18_No4_1.ly available in the ZIP file from Mutopia
is the only one that produces any output, and it includes the other 
files that you have seen. I guess that you want to produce instrumental 
parts and as I said earlier you probably have to at least read the 
Tutorial first to be able to do it.


Good luck!

  /Mats

Quoting Hombergh Henri van den GTZ VN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Dear Colleagues,

I have started to download Ly-files from the Mutopia website only
recently. I have obviously installed Lilypond. Most of the time if I try
to open a Ly-file, only a small txt-fiel is made with the text: #
-*-compilation-*-Changing working directory to `D:/music pdf files/L v
Beethoven Quartet Opus18 No4' Processing `D:/music pdf files/L v
Beethoven Quartet Opus18 No4/violinoone.ly' Parsing...

But a PS or Pdf file is not created in the same directory or anywhere
else on the hard disk

I have attached these 4 files, because it does not work with any of
them.

Can anybody help??

Thanks

Henri

Dr. Henri van den HombergHenri, MD-MPH
GTZ- Health Sector Coordinator Vietnam
Room 305-306 E1 Building
Trung Tu Diplomatic Compound
6 Dang Van Ngu Street, Dong Da District
Telephone numbers:+84 4 5737358/ 59/ 60
Fax number: +84 4 5737367
Mobile:  +84 904 511 122
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Official Mail Address:
GTZ-Office Hanoi Towers-6th floor
49 Hai Ba Trung, Hanoi, Vietnam


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Re: opening Ly-files

2007-06-18 Thread Valentin Villenave

2007/6/18, Hombergh Henri van den GTZ VN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


I have attached these 4 files, because it does not work with any of
them.


This is not surprising: if you look into these files, you'll see that
they only contain an identifier:
instrumentName = {music...}

These are the individual instrumental parts, the main score is in
QuartetOpus18_No4_1.ly, and includes them to print the conductor.

By the way, this score has been typeset with version 2.7.40 ; though
the score looks simple enough to compile correctly, you can use
convert-ly to update it. Or you can also install an old version of
LilyPond, to be found here:
http://lilypond.org/web/install/older-versions

hope this helps!
Valentin


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centering numbers in time signature

2007-06-18 Thread Adam Good

Hey all,

In the example below I want a time signature of 32/4 to show but I'm  
having a hard time getting the "4" to be centered under the "32"


thanks!

Adam

%

% create 32/4
tsMarkup =\markup { \override #'(baseline-skip . 2) \number { \column  
{ "32" "4" } } }

\relative a' {
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'text = #tsMarkup
\time 4/4

c,4 d e f g a b c, d e
}


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[layout tweaks] 1. fill-line

2007-06-18 Thread Germain G. Ivanoff-Trinadtzaty
Dear all,

I'm having trouble with tweaking the layout of non-musical notation.
Dozens of try/retry sequences didn't get LilyPond to do the job.

First, I point you at this unexpected feature :
%%% begin %%%
%%% The following code outputs  and  at
%%% different horizontal shifts
\version "2.11.26" %(windows)
\header
{
 title = \markup \normalsize \fill-line { "azerty" }
 subtitle = \markup \normalsize { "azerty" }
}
\score {c''} 
\layout{}
%%% end %%%

Now, the job :
. , ,  : variable length strings.
. I want to get  and  centered on the page,
while  is placed on the left of .
. I could not place  at a _fixed_ position from the _variable_
position of 's first character.
. I could not even place  at a _fixed_ position from the _fixed_
left margin of the page.

%%% begin BROKEN source %%%
\version "2.11.26" %(windows)
\header
{
 title = \markup \normalsize
 {
  %{
  %% doesn't compile
  \once \override #'(line-width . 60)
  \right-align "№ 210" % index
  %}

  %% doesn't work
  \override #'(left-margin . 40)
  "№ 210"  % index
  \override #'(left-margin . 18) % can't use \revert ?

  \fill-line { \center-align
  {
   "azerty" % title
   "azerty" % subtitle
  }}
 }
}
\score {c''} 
\layout{}
%%% end BROKEN source %%%

For now, I use the following (unsatisfying) trick as a stopgap :

%%% begin source %%%
\version "2.11.26" %(windows)
\header
{
 title = \markup \normalsize \fill-line
 {
  \hcenter-in #40 "№ 210"  % index
  \center-align
  {
   "azerty" % title
   "azerty" % subtitle
  }
  \hcenter-in #40 ""
 }
}
\score {c''} 
\layout{}
%%% end source %%%

Any piece of advice ?

Thanks,
Germain
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Re: centering numbers in time signature

2007-06-18 Thread Tao Cumplido
hey Adam,

just add a \center-align in the \column block.

regards,

Tao


%
 
% create 32/4
tsMarkup =\markup { \override #'(baseline-skip . 2) \number { \column  
{ \center-align { "32" "4" } } } }
\relative a' {
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'text = #tsMarkup
\time 4/4

c,4 d e f g a b c, d e
}



 Original-Nachricht 
Datum: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:30:54 +0200
Von: Adam Good <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: lilypond-user users 
Betreff: centering numbers in time signature

> Hey all,
> 
> In the example below I want a time signature of 32/4 to show but I'm  
> having a hard time getting the "4" to be centered under the "32"
> 
> thanks!
> 
> Adam
> 
> %
> 
> % create 32/4
> tsMarkup =\markup { \override #'(baseline-skip . 2) \number { \column  
> { "32" "4" } } }
> \relative a' {
> \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
> \override Staff.TimeSignature #'text = #tsMarkup
> \time 4/4
> 
> c,4 d e f g a b c, d e
> }
> 
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Re: [layout tweaks] 1. fill-line

2007-06-18 Thread Tao Cumplido
hi,

I had the same problem recently and also tried to tweak in the header directly.
But what you actually have to do is, to create your own header.
In the manual it's explained in chapter '10.2.2. Custom Titles'.
You'll have to define the bookTitleMarkup variable in the \paper block to make 
the header apear as you want.
I advise to read through the default which is defined in the file 
'titling-init.ly'.
Maybe these two links also help:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-02/msg00638.html
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=293

It's not exactly what you want, but maybe they help to understand how the 
variables work a little better.

Hope that helped.

regards,

Tao


 Original-Nachricht 
Datum: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:09:56 +0200
Von: "Germain G. Ivanoff-Trinadtzaty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: "Lilypond users" 
Betreff: [layout tweaks] 1. fill-line

> Dear all,
> 
> I'm having trouble with tweaking the layout of non-musical notation.
> Dozens of try/retry sequences didn't get LilyPond to do the job.
> 
> First, I point you at this unexpected feature :
> %%% begin %%%
> %%% The following code outputs  and  at
> %%% different horizontal shifts
> \version "2.11.26" %(windows)
> \header
> {
>  title = \markup \normalsize \fill-line { "azerty" }
>  subtitle = \markup \normalsize { "azerty" }
> }
> \score {c''} 
> \layout{}
> %%% end %%%
> 
> Now, the job :
> . , ,  : variable length strings.
> . I want to get  and  centered on the page,
> while  is placed on the left of .
> . I could not place  at a _fixed_ position from the _variable_
> position of 's first character.
> . I could not even place  at a _fixed_ position from the _fixed_
> left margin of the page.
> 
> %%% begin BROKEN source %%%
> \version "2.11.26" %(windows)
> \header
> {
>  title = \markup \normalsize
>  {
>   %{
>   %% doesn't compile
>   \once \override #'(line-width . 60)
>   \right-align "№ 210" % index
>   %}
> 
>   %% doesn't work
>   \override #'(left-margin . 40)
>   "№ 210"  % index
>   \override #'(left-margin . 18) % can't use \revert ?
> 
>   \fill-line { \center-align
>   {
>"azerty" % title
>"azerty" % subtitle
>   }}
>  }
> }
> \score {c''} 
> \layout{}
> %%% end BROKEN source %%%
> 
> For now, I use the following (unsatisfying) trick as a stopgap :
> 
> %%% begin source %%%
> \version "2.11.26" %(windows)
> \header
> {
>  title = \markup \normalsize \fill-line
>  {
>   \hcenter-in #40 "№ 210"  % index
>   \center-align
>   {
>"azerty" % title
>"azerty" % subtitle
>   }
>   \hcenter-in #40 ""
>  }
> }
> \score {c''} 
> \layout{}
> %%% end source %%%
> 
> Any piece of advice ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Germain

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Re: second voice note has no flags

2007-06-18 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Quoting Tao Cumplido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Use this in the second voice instead: a2 s8. a16
The 's' will produce an invisible rest.
In suppose that in your code lilypond wrote a dotted eigth beamed to 
a sixteenth and then hid the eigth and the beam, so that the 
sixteenth looked like a quarter note.


Exactly!  As an alternative, you could add a \noBeam directive to make 
sure that the hidden note and the 16th note are not beamed together.


  /Mats



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[layout tweaks] 2. \justify, hyphenation, shift

2007-06-18 Thread Germain G. Ivanoff-Trinadtzaty
Dear all,

I'm setting vocal scores with, say, russian lyrics.
I'd like to remind (outside of the score) the text,
and to propose a translation
These paragraphs should be justified,
and could possibly appear on two columns.

So I use \justify to compute the gaps between words.
The gaps are sometimes too wide, especially when I shift to
short linewidths.
So I tried to introduce optionnal hyphenation in markups...
and could not.

Is it possible ?
And by the way, can I shift a paragraph in, say, 47 millimeters ?

Thanks,
Germain

%%% begin %%%
%%% Justified text with hyphenation. BROKEN
\version "2.11.26" %(windows)
\markup \column
{
% \override #'(left-margin . 50) %% this does NOT work. Why ?
% \hspace #1  %% idem

 \override #'(line-width . 30) %% how to specify millimeters ?

% \justify \lyricmode  %% syntax error
% \lyricmode \justify  %% syntax error
% \lyricmode%% syntax error
 \justify   %% bad output (hyphens)
 {
  So I tried to introduce optionnal hyphenation in markups...
  
  So I tried to in __ tro __ du __ ce op __ tion __ nal
  hy __ phe __ na __ tion in mark __ ups like in 
  "\ly" __ ric __ mode
  
  "%%% By the way, How to get new line ? %%%"
  
  So I tried to in__ tro__ du__ ce op__ tion__ nal
  hy__ phe__ na__ tion in mark__ ups like in 
  "\ly"__ ric__ mode
  
  So I tried to in__tro__du__ce op__tion__nal
  hy_ phe_ na_ tion in mark_ ups like in 
  "\ly" __ ric __ mode
 }
 \justify-string  %% worst output (no justification)
 #"
  So I tried to introduce optionnal hyphenation
  in markups...
  
  So I tried to in __ tro __ du __ ce op __ 
  
  tion __ nal
  hy __ phe __ na __ tion in mark __ ups like in
  \"\\ly __ ric __ mode\"
  
  
  %%% By the way, How to skip one line ? %%%
 "
}
\score {c''} 
\layout{}
%%% end %%%
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[layout tweaks] 3. ragged last system right #true

2007-06-18 Thread Germain G. Ivanoff-Trinadtzaty

\version "2.11.26"

Dear all,

In the \paper block, we can use :
ragged-bottomto stretch down all pages
ragged-last-bottom to stretch down last page
ragged-rightto stretch right all systems

Is there a way to stretch all systems right BUT the very last one ?
I didn't find any trick in docs nor in mail archives yet. But still looking 
for.


Thanks,
Germain 




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Re: [layout tweaks] 3. ragged last system right #true

2007-06-18 Thread Rune Zedeler

Germain G. Ivanoff-Trinadtzaty wrote:


ragged-bottomto stretch down all pages
ragged-last-bottom to stretch down last page
ragged-rightto stretch right all systems

Is there a way to stretch all systems right BUT the very last one ?


ragged-last

(It's in section 11.5.4 of the manual: "Line length")

-Rune


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Re: Decorated scores

2007-06-18 Thread Helge Kruse

Arjen,

for some ornaments this sounds great. Even if this a bit offtopic, I dont 
have a program to convert a bitmap graphic (TIFF, JPG,...) to EPS. Does 
anbody knows any program that runs with Windows XP?


/Helge

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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: Decorated scores



Helge Kruse  gmx.net> writes:

I would like to include some graphics in the score like celtic ornaments 
at

the page borders. What are best practices in an MS Windows environment?


Occasionally, I use \epsfile to insert ornamental graphics between 
\score{}
blocks. To convert any graphics file to eps, I use Imagemagick's 
'convert':

convert ornament.jpg EPS2:ornament.eps




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Re: Decorated scores

2007-06-18 Thread Germain G. Ivanoff-Trinadtzaty

Arjen,

for some ornaments this sounds great. Even if this a bit offtopic, I dont 
have a program to convert a bitmap graphic (TIFF, JPG,...) to EPS. Does 
anbody knows any program that runs with Windows XP?


/Helge


OpenOffice.org Draw will do the job ; in a new drawing :
Insert/image...
File/Export...

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Re: [layout tweaks] 1. fill-line

2007-06-18 Thread Germain G. Ivanoff-Trinadtzaty

hi,

I had the same problem recently and also tried to tweak in the header 
directly.

But what you actually have to do is, to create your own header.
In the manual it's explained in chapter '10.2.2. Custom Titles'.
You'll have to define the bookTitleMarkup variable in the \paper block to 
make the header apear as you want.
I advise to read through the default which is defined in the file 
'titling-init.ly'.

Maybe these two links also help:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-02/msg00638.html
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=293

It's not exactly what you want, but maybe they help to understand how the 
variables work a little better.


Hope that helped.

regards,

Tao


Thank you very much,
These links will soon be helpfull for me. But not for my current issue.
I've already read 'titling-inits.ly' and 'paper-default.ly' (that's where I 
met 'fill-line' the first time) But didn't find what I'm looking for.
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Re: Pre-Release: Slave Songs of the United States

2007-06-18 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

2007/6/17, Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


For those interested, the build commands are now:

$ lilypond-book --output=out/ --process="lilypond --backend=eps \
--formats=pdf -dinclude-eps-fonts -dgs-load-fonts" --psfonts slave-songs.tex
$ (cd out; pdflatex slave-songs.tex; pdflatex slave-songs.tex; \
cp slave-songs.pdf ../slave-songs.pdf)

(I don't know what -dinclude-eps-fonts does, though.)


without it, the fonts are not included in the individual EPS files,
which used to be useful for going through latex/dvips. However, going
through PDF is easier and more robust, but for an individual snippet
to be converted to PDF, it must contain fonts, hence the
-dinclude-eps-fonts option.

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Re: [Fwd: Misplaced lyrics]

2007-06-18 Thread Joseph Haig

Mats, Graham,

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.  My first attempt at
creating a minimal example didn't work because it turns out that the
bug is a little more complicated than I first thought.  Having said
that, I think that the extra information I found should help pinpoint
the bug easier.

Regards,

Joe

On 17/06/07, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Joe,

Please create a minimal example of this bug; there are some tips here:
http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/bugs

Cheers,
- Graham


Joe wrote:
> I am using automatic note splitting (section 6.2.7 of the guide) and I
> have encountered a problem with lyrics.  I have attached a sample
> (first few bars of the top parts of a Palestrina Mass) with the words
> "Ky -- rie e -- lei -- son" but the 'e' of 'eleison' appear on the
> first notes of bars 2 and 3 in the soprano and alto parts
> respectively, while they should be on the 3rd beats.  In both these
> cases, the note at the start of the bar is split over the barline by
> lilypond.  I have tried this in the latest stable version, 2.10.25.
> Can anyone suggest a way to fix this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: Decorated scores

2007-06-18 Thread Martial


I dont have a program to convert a bitmap graphic (TIFF, JPG,...) to EPS. 
Does anbody knows any program that runs with Windows XP?


Gimp ! simplified Install

http://www.aljacom.com/~gimp/download.html

version 2.3.14 (write and read eps)
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Re: [layout tweaks] 1. fill-line

2007-06-18 Thread Tao Cumplido
If I get your problem correctly you want something like this:

||
|Index  Title|
|  Subtitle  |
||


Please confirm because I am not entirely sure if that's what you want.
If it is, I will show you how to do it.

regards,

Tao




 Original-Nachricht 
Datum: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:05:30 +0200
Von: "Germain G. Ivanoff-Trinadtzaty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: "Tao Cumplido" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: "Lilypond users" 
Betreff: Re: [layout tweaks] 1. fill-line

> > hi,
> >
> > I had the same problem recently and also tried to tweak in the header 
> > directly.
> > But what you actually have to do is, to create your own header.
> > In the manual it's explained in chapter '10.2.2. Custom Titles'.
> > You'll have to define the bookTitleMarkup variable in the \paper block
> to 
> > make the header apear as you want.
> > I advise to read through the default which is defined in the file 
> > 'titling-init.ly'.
> > Maybe these two links also help:
> > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-02/msg00638.html
> > http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=293
> >
> > It's not exactly what you want, but maybe they help to understand how
> the 
> > variables work a little better.
> >
> > Hope that helped.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Tao
> 
> Thank you very much,
> These links will soon be helpfull for me. But not for my current issue.
> I've already read 'titling-inits.ly' and 'paper-default.ly' (that's where
> I 
> met 'fill-line' the first time) But didn't find what I'm looking for.
> Germain 

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Re: [layout tweaks] 1. fill-line

2007-06-18 Thread Germain G. Ivanoff-Trinadtzaty
Hi Tao,
Thank you for your interest. Actually, I want this:


 fixed| center
 <--->v
|   |
| Index Title   |
| Sub-title |
|   |
|   |
|  ===  |
|  ===  |
|   |

or : (better)

fixed
 <->
|   |
|   Index   Title   |
| Sub-title |
|   |


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Re: [layout tweaks] 1. fill-line

2007-06-18 Thread Tao Cumplido
I see. This could complicate things a little.

First of all you will need the following in your code:


%%
\paper
{
   bookTitleMarkup = \markup
   {
  \column
  {
 \fill-line
 {
\fromproperty #'header:index %index in the left edge
\fromproperty #'header:title %title centered on page
" "  %empty space on the right
 }
 \fill-line
 {
\fromproperty #'header:subtitle %subtitle below title
 }
  }
   }
}
%

This re-defines properties used in the header.
With the above you'll have 'index aligned with 'title, while 'index is on the 
left edge and 'title in the center.
'subtitle will be centered below 'title.

Now you have to understand the \fill-line command.
In the manual it's not so well explained, especially how to use it in this 
context.
The outcome depends on the number of arguments in a \fill-line block.
The command will place all arguments equally align, so if you want to have 
something placed on the left edge, in the center but nothing on the right you 
still need to use three arguments. Otherwise you would only get parts on the 
outer edges, not in the center.
For this reason I use the empty string (" ") in the example above.

Now to achieve what you want is a little difficult, since you can't work with 
fixed distances here.

I'd suggest to fill in empty strings in the first line.
Just make sure that you always have an odd total of arguments, and that the 
title is in the middle.

I hope that was clear.
If not, just ask and I'll try to explain better, or maybe someone else.
I have never been much good in explaining.

Good luck,

Tao


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Datum: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:16:04 +0200
Von: "Germain G. Ivanoff-Trinadtzaty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: "Tao Cumplido" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: "Lilypond users" 
Betreff: Re: [layout tweaks] 1. fill-line

> Hi Tao,
> Thank you for your interest. Actually, I want this:
> 
> 
>  fixed| center
>  <--->v
> |   |
> | Index Title   |
> | Sub-title |
> |   |
> |   |
> |  ===  |
> |  ===  |
> |   |
> 
> or : (better)
> 
> fixed
>  <->
> |   |
> |   Index   Title   |
> | Sub-title |
> |   |
> 
> 
> regards,
> 
> Germain
> (fixed point font)

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Re: [Fwd: Misplaced lyrics]

2007-06-18 Thread Graham Percival

Thanks, added as
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=378

Cheers,
- Graham


Joseph Haig wrote:

Mats, Graham,

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.  My first attempt at
creating a minimal example didn't work because it turns out that the
bug is a little more complicated than I first thought.  Having said
that, I think that the extra information I found should help pinpoint
the bug easier.

Regards,

Joe

On 17/06/07, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Joe,

Please create a minimal example of this bug; there are some tips here:
http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/bugs

Cheers,
- Graham


Joe wrote:
> I am using automatic note splitting (section 6.2.7 of the guide) and I
> have encountered a problem with lyrics.  I have attached a sample
> (first few bars of the top parts of a Palestrina Mass) with the words
> "Ky -- rie e -- lei -- son" but the 'e' of 'eleison' appear on the
> first notes of bars 2 and 3 in the soprano and alto parts
> respectively, while they should be on the 3rd beats.  In both these
> cases, the note at the start of the bar is split over the barline by
> lilypond.  I have tried this in the latest stable version, 2.10.25.
> Can anyone suggest a way to fix this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
> 


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Re: [layout tweaks] 1. fill-line

2007-06-18 Thread Rune Zedeler

Germain G. Ivanoff-Trinadtzaty wrote:


. I want to get  and  centered on the page,
while  is placed on the left of .
. I could not place  at a _fixed_ position from the _variable_
position of 's first character.


\version "2.10.1"
\header {
  thetitle = "This is the title"
  index = "3.14159"
  subtitle = "Subtitle"

  title = \markup \fill-line { \line {
\with-dimensions #'(0 . 0) #'(0 . 0)
  \right-align \normal-text \normalsize \fromproperty #'header:index
\hspace #4.0
\fromproperty #'header:thetitle
\hspace #4.0
  } }
}
\score {
  { c' d' e' f' }
}


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Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?

2007-06-18 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Joe Neeman escreveu:

On Monday 09 April 2007 20:38, Kieren MacMillan wrote:

[ Lilypond 2.11.12 ; Mac OS X 10.4.9 ]

Hello, all!

In recent versions of Lilypond, I find that the first element of
every measure is generally too close to the preceding barline for my
taste -- i.e., there isn't enough left-padding on the first note or
rest or whatever (n.b., the spacing issue is especially egregious
when the first item is an accidental, arpeggio, or other "note
attachment").


I've had some lilypond hacking time recently, so I've been digging into the 
spacing code. The stuff I'm trying to do is nowhere near complete and I don't 
yet understand the code fully, but I've put what I have so far in 
the "jneeman" branch of the git repository. If anyone is sufficiently 
motivated and technically able to build lilypond from git, I'd appreciate 
some feedback on the spacing changes.


Awesome that you've been able to get your fingers dirty in the spacing 
engine.  You've breached into one of the last domains of the "Han-Wen 
only" code.  Probably only the grace-timing code  in the iterators is 
left as the last outhold of sole Han-Wenness in Lily.


I'm glad to see that many kludges are disappearing, but a little worried 
that there might be subtle spacing corrections that disappear because of 
this. Do pay close attention to the regtest, especially all the 
spacing-*.ly files.


One of the problems of working on the spacing is that it tends to affect 
all tests, making it more difficult to see the effect of a fix.


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Re: Mac OS X libguile.17.dylib Trace/BPT Trap error when adding a second voice to piano score

2007-06-18 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

David Fedoruk escreveu:

Hello:

I am attempting to transcribe a Scarlatti Sonata which I will cross
check with the facsimile edition -- when I get to see it. However, in
bringing in a second voice to the right hand I get this error:

dyld: Symbol not found:
 Referenced from:
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../lib//libguile.17.dylib

Expected in: 
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../lib//libguile.17.dylib


Trace/BPT trap

The suspect code at bar 23  is this:

\version "2.10.25"
upper = \relative c'' {
   \clef treble
   \key e \major
   \time 3/4

\key e \minor r8  b''8 \grace a16 g8  fs e d | % Bar 21

{a'4-| a8 a gs fs b d |
\grace b16 c2. | b2.  | % Bar 23   


 fs b \grace a8 gs8 fs e ds% Bar 24


}


  lower = \relative c {
   \clef bass
   \key e \major
   \time 3/4

\key e \minor e4 r4 r  |% Bar 21

r8 a''8 fs8 ds  cs b | % Bar 22

b,2.| % Bar 23

e4  r4  r |% Bar 24



I've successfully coded the first 20 bars, the only thing I've done
different is bring the attempt to bring the second voice in the right
hand. Since the error occurs as soon as I hit  enter, I don't think
lilypond has even parsed the file completely.

I'm using Mac OS 10.4.9



this is a very strange error; I'm also missing which "symbol" isn't 
found.  Can you run the actual binary from a terminal, and send me the 
output?


The binary is in lilypond.app/contents/resource/bin/lilypond




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Re: SVG previews

2007-06-18 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Keenan Pepper escreveu:

On 6/8/07, Keenan Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I want Lilypond to produce an SVG file (for uploading to Wikipedia),
but I don't want it to be a whole page. I thought "lilypond -b svg
--preview" would do the trick, but apparently those options are
incompatible:


Does anyone have any suggestions yet?


Just upload the png. There are no SVG renderers that usefully handle 
lily output for this case. Until firefox/inkscape gets proper SVG font 
support, SVG files won't show music glyphs, except if you have the right 
version of our music font already installed as OTF font.


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Re: SVG previews

2007-06-18 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

2007/6/18, Keenan Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

"Just upload the png" is not an acceptable solution. I can eliminate
the font dependency by performing "Object to Path" in Inkscape, so I
guess I just have to crop it manually in Inkscape as well.

Still, I shouldn't getting Scheme syntax errors from running Lilypond
on a valid input file. Syntax errors indicate a bug that should be
fixed.


someone has to write the glue code to output the systems individually.
If you don't feel like doing this, my suggestion is to set tagline =
##f, and figure out how Inkscape can crop the image automatically.

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Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?

2007-06-18 Thread Werner LEMBERG

> Awesome that you've been able to get your fingers dirty in the spacing 
> engine.

Yeah.  Go on, Joe!

> You've breached into one of the last domains of the "Han-Wen only"
> code.  Probably only the grace-timing code in the iterators is left
> as the last outhold of sole Han-Wenness in Lily.

BTW, when you will be able again to give some time to your small,
helpless musical baby?


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lyrics font size

2007-06-18 Thread vwf
Hello,

I try to set the font-size of lyrics, but this seems less straight
forward than I expected. So far, the notehead size changes with the
text-size. How can I set the size of the staves and the lyrics
independently?


This is what I made:

#(set-global-staff-size 15)

\score {
<<
\new Voice {
\key f \major
\time 3/4
s4 f'4 g'4 | a'2 c''4 | g'2 a'4 | f'2 e'4
%%...
\bar"|."
}
\addlyrics {
Bla -- bla, bla -- bla, bla -- bla, bla -- bla
}
>>
\layout{
\context { \Staff
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-2 . 2)
}
}
}
\paper{
indent = 0.5 \cm
line-width=11 \cm
  
between-system-space = 1.5\cm
between-system-padding = #1
myFontSize = #8
#(define fonts
(make-pango-font-tree "Univers LT Std"
"Univers LT Std"
"Univers LT Std"
(/ myFontSize 11)
))
}




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