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Two addit. lyrics lines -- how to make centered?

2007-03-13 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

Hello,

   I want to add lyrics to voice and have additional lyrics for some
   measures (which may have additional voice -- upper tenor, let's say) --
   and i don't know how to do it best :-)

   Just take a look at the code:



melody = \relative c'' {
g a b c
<<
\new Voice = "tenorup" {
\voiceOne
b a g f
}
\new Voice = "tenorlo" {
\voiceTwo
% s s s s
c c c c
}
>>
e d c c
}
 
 
mainwords = \lyricmode { c d e f g a b c }
 
upperwords = \lyricmode { u u u u }
lowerwords = \lyricmode { l l l l }
 
\score {
\new Staff = "tenor" <<
\new Voice = "tenvoice" {
\melody
}
\new Lyrics = tenlyr \lyricsto tenvoice \mainwords
\new Lyrics = tenlyrup
% \with {
%   alignAboveContext = tenlyr
% }
\lyricsto tenorup \upperwords
\new Lyrics = tenlyrlo \lyricsto tenorlo \lowerwords
>>
}



This code produces two lyrics which are lowered below "main" tenor's
lyrics. Is there any way to raise them up (upper tenor -- above and
lower tenor -- below "main" vocal)?

If i uncomment \with {alignAboveContext = tenlyr } in that code --
it's almost what i want, but i would like to have additional lyrics
to be close to "main". Is there any way to do this?

What i want exactly: to have behaviour like in this fragment --
http://www2.ldc.net/~dor/kanon006.jpg (was typed with
musixlyr/musixtex, 28K)

Thanks!
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Re: Two addit. lyrics lines -- how to make centered?

2007-03-13 Thread Mats Bengtsson

The general ideas are described in the section on Divisi lyrics. I 
actually sent
an explanation on how it works earlier today in an email entitled 
"lyrics and \skip"

that hasn't made it to the mailing list archives yet.

My guess is that the following modified version of your \score block
gives what you want:

   \score {
   \new Staff = "tenor" <<
   \new Voice = "tenvoice" {
   \melody
   }
   \new Lyrics = tenlyr \lyricsto tenvoice \mainwords
   \new Lyrics = tenlyrup
\with {
  alignAboveContext = tenor
}
   \lyricsto tenorup \upperwords
   \context Lyrics = tenlyr \lyricsto tenorlo \lowerwords
   >>
   }

  /Mats

Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote:

Hello,

   I want to add lyrics to voice and have additional lyrics for some
   measures (which may have additional voice -- upper tenor, let's say) --
   and i don't know how to do it best :-)

   Just take a look at the code:

melody = \relative c'' {
g a b c
<<
\new Voice = "tenorup" {
\voiceOne
b a g f
}
\new Voice = "tenorlo" {
\voiceTwo
% s s s s
c c c c
}
>>
e d c c
}

	mainwords = \lyricmode { c d e f g a b c }

	upperwords = \lyricmode { u u u u }

lowerwords = \lyricmode { l l l l }

	\score {

\new Staff = "tenor" <<
\new Voice = "tenvoice" {
\melody
}
\new Lyrics = tenlyr \lyricsto tenvoice \mainwords
\new Lyrics = tenlyrup
% \with {
%   alignAboveContext = tenlyr
% }
\lyricsto tenorup \upperwords
\new Lyrics = tenlyrlo \lyricsto tenorlo \lowerwords
>>
}

This code produces two lyrics which are lowered below "main" tenor's
lyrics. Is there any way to raise them up (upper tenor -- above and
lower tenor -- below "main" vocal)?

If i uncomment \with {alignAboveContext = tenlyr } in that code --
it's almost what i want, but i would like to have additional lyrics
to be close to "main". Is there any way to do this?

What i want exactly: to have behaviour like in this fragment --
http://www2.ldc.net/~dor/kanon006.jpg (was typed with
musixlyr/musixtex, 28K)

Thanks!

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Signal Processing
Signals, Sensors and Systems
Royal Institute of Technology
SE-100 44  STOCKHOLM
Sweden
Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 
   Fax:   (+46) 8 790 7260
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Two addit. lyrics lines -- how to make centered?

2007-03-13 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 01:21:35PM +0100, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> The general ideas are described in the section on Divisi lyrics. I 
> actually sent
> an explanation on how it works earlier today in an email entitled 
> "lyrics and \skip"
> that hasn't made it to the mailing list archives yet.
> 
> My guess is that the following modified version of your \score block
> gives what you want:
Not exactly.


>\score {
>\new Staff = "tenor" <<
>\new Voice = "tenvoice" {
>\melody
>}
>\new Lyrics = tenlyr \lyricsto tenvoice \mainwords
>\new Lyrics = tenlyrup
> \with {
>   alignAboveContext = tenor
> }
>\lyricsto tenorup \upperwords
>\context Lyrics = tenlyr \lyricsto tenorlo \lowerwords
>>>
>}

This behaviour is possible without \lowerwords (that -- lowerwords' --
lyrics could be inserted into mainwords actually as far as i understood).

I would like lyrics line to be between staves like this:


   -- upper voice for upper staff --
-- main for both -- -- main for both --
   -- lower voice for lower staff --


Possibly, that URL (below) would explain better (sorry, my English..).


Thanks!
> 
>   /Mats
> 
> Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote:
> >What i want exactly: to have behaviour like in this fragment --
> >http://www2.ldc.net/~dor/kanon006.jpg (was typed with
> >musixlyr/musixtex, 28K)
> >
> >Thanks!
> >  
> 
> -- 
> =
>   Mats Bengtsson
>   Signal Processing
>   Signals, Sensors and Systems
>   Royal Institute of Technology
>   SE-100 44  STOCKHOLM
>   Sweden
>   Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 
>Fax:   (+46) 8 790 7260
>   Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe
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Re: Two addit. lyrics lines -- how to make centered?

2007-03-13 Thread Mats Bengtsson


OK, how about
   \score {
   \new Staff = "tenor" <<
   \new Voice = "tenvoice" {
   \melody
   }
   \new Lyrics = tenlyr \lyricsto tenvoice \mainwords
   \new Lyrics = tenlyrup
\with {
  alignAboveContext = tenlyr
}
   \lyricsto tenorup \upperwords
   \new Lyrics = tenlyrlo
\with {
  alignBelowContext = tenlyr
}
   \lyricsto tenorlo \lowerwords
   >>
   }

   /Mats

Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote:

On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 01:21:35PM +0100, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
  
The general ideas are described in the section on Divisi lyrics. I 
actually sent
an explanation on how it works earlier today in an email entitled 
"lyrics and \skip"

that hasn't made it to the mailing list archives yet.

My guess is that the following modified version of your \score block
gives what you want:


Not exactly.


  

   \score {
   \new Staff = "tenor" <<
   \new Voice = "tenvoice" {
   \melody
   }
   \new Lyrics = tenlyr \lyricsto tenvoice \mainwords
   \new Lyrics = tenlyrup
\with {
  alignAboveContext = tenor
}
   \lyricsto tenorup \upperwords
   \context Lyrics = tenlyr \lyricsto tenorlo \lowerwords
   >>
   }



This behaviour is possible without \lowerwords (that -- lowerwords' --
lyrics could be inserted into mainwords actually as far as i understood).

I would like lyrics line to be between staves like this:


   -- upper voice for upper staff --
-- main for both -- -- main for both --
   -- lower voice for lower staff --


Possibly, that URL (below) would explain better (sorry, my English..).


Thanks!
  

  /Mats

Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote:


   What i want exactly: to have behaviour like in this fragment --
   http://www2.ldc.net/~dor/kanon006.jpg (was typed with
   musixlyr/musixtex, 28K)

Thanks!
 
  

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Signal Processing
Signals, Sensors and Systems
Royal Institute of Technology
SE-100 44  STOCKHOLM
Sweden
Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 
   Fax:   (+46) 8 790 7260
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe
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Re: Two addit. lyrics lines -- how to make centered?

2007-03-13 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 01:54:32PM +0100, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> OK, how about
>\score {
>\new Staff = "tenor" <<
>\new Voice = "tenvoice" {
>\melody
>}
>\new Lyrics = tenlyr \lyricsto tenvoice \mainwords
>\new Lyrics = tenlyrup
> \with {
>   alignAboveContext = tenlyr
> }
>\lyricsto tenorup \upperwords
>\new Lyrics = tenlyrlo
> \with {
>   alignBelowContext = tenlyr
> }
>\lyricsto tenorlo \lowerwords
>>>
>}

Yes, that's almost what i've asked in my first email -- but _is_ it
possible to make distance between "u u u u" and "l l l l" shorter?
Is it possible to overlap a bit different lyrics context? If yes -- how?


I have tried with different extents, but failed.


> 
>/Mats
> 
> Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote:
> >On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 01:21:35PM +0100, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> >  
> >>The general ideas are described in the section on Divisi lyrics. I 
> >>actually sent
> >>an explanation on how it works earlier today in an email entitled 
> >>"lyrics and \skip"
> >>that hasn't made it to the mailing list archives yet.
> >>
> >>My guess is that the following modified version of your \score block
> >>gives what you want:
> >>
> >Not exactly.
> >
> >
> >  
> >>   \score {
> >>   \new Staff = "tenor" <<
> >>   \new Voice = "tenvoice" {
> >>   \melody
> >>   }
> >>   \new Lyrics = tenlyr \lyricsto tenvoice \mainwords
> >>   \new Lyrics = tenlyrup
> >>\with {
> >>  alignAboveContext = tenor
> >>}
> >>   \lyricsto tenorup \upperwords
> >>   \context Lyrics = tenlyr \lyricsto tenorlo \lowerwords
> >>   >>
> >>   }
> >>
> >
> >This behaviour is possible without \lowerwords (that -- lowerwords' --
> >lyrics could be inserted into mainwords actually as far as i understood).
> >
> >I would like lyrics line to be between staves like this:
> >
> >
> >   -- upper voice for upper staff --
> >-- main for both -- -- main for both --
> >   -- lower voice for lower staff --
> >
> >
> >Possibly, that URL (below) would explain better (sorry, my English..).
> >
> >
> >Thanks!
> >  
> >>  /Mats
> >>
> >>Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote:
> >>
> >>>   What i want exactly: to have behaviour like in this fragment --
> >>>   http://www2.ldc.net/~dor/kanon006.jpg (was typed with
> >>>   musixlyr/musixtex, 28K)
> >>>
> >>>Thanks!
> >>> 
> >>>  
> >>-- 
> >>=
> >>Mats Bengtsson
> >>Signal Processing
> >>Signals, Sensors and Systems
> >>Royal Institute of Technology
> >>SE-100 44  STOCKHOLM
> >>Sweden
> >>Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 
> >>   Fax:   (+46) 8 790 7260
> >>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe
> >>=
> >>
> >
> >  
> 
> -- 
> =
>   Mats Bengtsson
>   Signal Processing
>   Signals, Sensors and Systems
>   Royal Institute of Technology
>   SE-100 44  STOCKHOLM
>   Sweden
>   Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 
>Fax:   (+46) 8 790 7260
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Re: Nested tuplets, making transparent first number makes also the following

2007-03-13 Thread José Luis Cruz


Nested tuplets start at the same moment. To override musical
constructs beginning at the same moment in the same voice, there's a
handy \tweak function. \tweak is useful primarily for overriding
attributes of individual notes in a chord and also for setting
overriding nested tuplets separately.


Thank you very much, adding:
   \tweak #'transparent ##t
before the first tuplets it works nicely.

I've seen that the description of the \twek function in the manual is
very short and it only examples its use for adding color to
chordnotes. It would be useful to addd a tuplet example too.

regards,
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How to write a segno and coda code together?

2007-03-13 Thread Michel Berteaud

Hello! I use lilypond for some weeks now with Windows and it works well.
I have a little problem concerning how to write a segno sign and a coda sign
both centered on a bar. I tried to put the code of each one at the same place,
but it didn't work. It displaid one of the two, but not both. Could you, please,
tell me how to write it in my source code?
Thank you.



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more on polyphonic tablature - sharing notes

2007-03-13 Thread Art Sulger

More questions, following on the example last October from Daniel Castillo in


If a note is shared by the upper and lower voice, it displays ok in standard 
notation but in tablature the fingering is repeated. I believe this is listed 
as a bug in the Tablatures basic section:
"Chords are not handled in a special way, and hence the automatic string 
selector may easily select the same string to two notes in a chord."
But is there a work-around. This seems like a common practice in poliphony.
It came up while I was transcribing BWV999, image example is here:


Using Daniel's example, if you change one note in the upper voice so it is 
shared by the lower voice, you will see the odd fingering.
I repeat the entire example here with the first upper voice note changed:
\version "2.10.0"


VoiceANotes =  \relative {
 \voiceOne
 d,8 a' d fis e fis, ais 
}
VoiceBNotes = \relative {
 \voiceTwo
 d,2 cis
}

Notation = \simultaneous { %% Combine both parts for notation
 \time 4/4
 \clef "G_8"
 \key d \major
 << \context Voice=VoiceA \VoiceANotes >>
 << \context Voice=VoiceB \VoiceBNotes >>
}


Tablature = \simultaneous { %% Combine both parts for Tablature
 \time 4/4
 \override TabStaff.Stem #'transparent = ##t %% Makes stems transparent
 \override TabStaff.Beam #'transparent = ##t %% Makes beams transparent
 << \context TabVoice=TabVoiceA \VoiceANotes >>
 << \context TabVoice=TabVoiceB \VoiceBNotes >>
}


\score {
 \context StaffGroup {
   \simultaneous {
     << \context Staff=FullNotation \Notation >>
     << \context TabStaff=FullTab \Tablature >>
   }
 }
}

 


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How to switch the articulation and the righthand fingering

2007-03-13 Thread Arjan Bos


Hi List,

I'm  currently trying to typeset some old copies of Anton Stingls  
guitar book "30 Lehrstücke in den leichten Tonarten". And I'm having  
some troubles getting both the articulation ">" and the righthand  
fingering "i" on the same note in the order that I want it. No matter  
what I try, the "i" is always above the ">" and I want it the other  
way around. Could someone please shine some light on what is going on  
here?


\version "2.10.20"
\score {
  \new Staff {
\set strokeFingerOrientations = #'(up)
 >
\once \override Script #'script-priority = #-100
 >
\once \override  StrokeFinger #'script-priority = #-100
 >
\once \override  StrokeFinger #'script-priority = #-100
-\rightHandFinger #2 >
  }
}

Thanks in advance,
Arjan

btw: I really dig the new \rightHandFinger notation!


ScriptPriority.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


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Re: How to write a segno and coda code together?

2007-03-13 Thread Mats Bengtsson


If you mean "centered on a bar line", then you could try
something like
\mark \markup{ \center-align \musicglyph #"scripts.segno"
  \musicglyph #"scripts.coda" }
See the section on Text marks for more information.

  /Mats

Michel Berteaud wrote:


Hello! I use lilypond for some weeks now with Windows and it works well.
I have a little problem concerning how to write a segno sign and a coda sign
both centered on a bar. I tried to put the code of each one at the same place,
but it didn't work. It displaid one of the two, but not both. Could you, please,
tell me how to write it in my source code?
Thank you.



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Re: Nested tuplets, making transparent first number makes also the following

2007-03-13 Thread Graham Percival


José Luis Cruz wrote:

I've seen that the description of the \twek function in the manual is
very short and it only examples its use for adding color to
chordnotes. It would be useful to addd a tuplet example too.


http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/documentation-adding

Cheers,
- Graham


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Re: Nested tuplets, making transparent first number makes also the following

2007-03-13 Thread José Luis Cruz


2007/3/12, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Nested tuplets start at the same moment. To override musical
constructs beginning at the same moment in the same voice, there's a
handy \tweak function. \tweak is useful primarily for overriding
attributes of individual notes in a chord and also for setting
overriding nested tuplets separately.



Thank you very much, adding:
   \tweak #'transparent ##t
before the first tuplets it works nicely.

I've seen that the description of the \twek function in the manual is
very short and it only examples its use for adding color to
chordnotes. It would be useful to addd a tuplet example too.

regards,
Jose Luis
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response character

2007-03-13 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann

Hello,

I'm trying to typeset some snippets that are Psalm verses that are meant
to be sung in what I think is called "call and response" mode.  

The response lyrics are supposed to begin with a special text symbol that 
is a capital 'R' that has a slash through it.  Does anyone know of a 
lilypond or LaTeX symbol that does this?

Thanks,
Susan


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Re: response character

2007-03-13 Thread Geoff Horton


The response lyrics are supposed to begin with a special text symbol that
is a capital 'R' that has a slash through it.  Does anyone know of a
lilypond or LaTeX symbol that does this?


I've looked for such a thing in the past without success.

Geoff


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Re: response character

2007-03-13 Thread Stan Sanderson



On Mar 13, 2007, at 8:05 PM, Geoff Horton wrote:

The response lyrics are supposed to begin with a special text  
symbol that

is a capital 'R' that has a slash through it.  Does anyone know of a
lilypond or LaTeX symbol that does this?


I've looked for such a thing in the past without success.

Geoff


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The symbol is contained (apparently) in the Apple Symbol font, and is  
identified by the following:


Unicode: 211F
UTF8: E2 84 9F


(all of which is probably of little help- sorry!)

Stan


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Re: response character

2007-03-13 Thread Maximilian Albert

>>> The response lyrics are supposed to begin with a special text symbol
>>> that is a capital 'R' that has a slash through it.  Does anyone 
>>> know of a lilypond or LaTeX symbol that does this?
>>
>> I've looked for such a thing in the past without success.
>>
> The symbol is contained (apparently) in the Apple Symbol font, and is
> identified by the following:
> 
> Unicode: 211F
> UTF8: E2 84 9F
> 
> 
> 
> (all of which is probably of little help- sorry!)

Well, at least it helped me to get it working. ;)

If you use an editor that is unicode-aware you can simply insert the
corresponding symbol wherever it is needed and rely on lilypond to do
the rest. Of course, the precise process depends on the editor. In my
quick test I used emacs where you can enter any symbol using its hex
unicode value. Because of some weird setting that had messed up my meta
key I had to include the line

   (define-key global-map [?\C-c ?u] #'ucs-insert)

in my .emacs file. Then typing CTRL-C, U, 211F resulted in the symbol
being inserted. (Only a white box was shown in emacs itself but
compiling with lilypond and viewing the pdf file worked just fine).

If you use another editor and cannot figure it out yourself, maybe other
users know how to do it.

Hope this helps,
Max


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Re: response character

2007-03-13 Thread Trevor Bača

On 3/13/07, Maximilian Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>> The response lyrics are supposed to begin with a special text symbol
>>> that is a capital 'R' that has a slash through it.  Does anyone
>>> know of a lilypond or LaTeX symbol that does this?
>>
>> I've looked for such a thing in the past without success.
>>
> The symbol is contained (apparently) in the Apple Symbol font, and is
> identified by the following:
>
> Unicode: 211F
> UTF8: E2 84 9F
>
> 
>
> (all of which is probably of little help- sorry!)

Well, at least it helped me to get it working. ;)

If you use an editor that is unicode-aware you can simply insert the
corresponding symbol wherever it is needed and rely on lilypond to do
the rest. Of course, the precise process depends on the editor. In my
quick test I used emacs where you can enter any symbol using its hex
unicode value. Because of some weird setting that had messed up my meta
key I had to include the line

   (define-key global-map [?\C-c ?u] #'ucs-insert)

in my .emacs file. Then typing CTRL-C, U, 211F resulted in the symbol
being inserted. (Only a white box was shown in emacs itself but
compiling with lilypond and viewing the pdf file worked just fine).

If you use another editor and cannot figure it out yourself, maybe other
users know how to do it.

And, FWIW, Mark Knoop recently pointed out that Unicode entry in vim
is ctrl-v u211f, for example, all while in insert mode.

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Re: response character

2007-03-13 Thread Stan Sanderson



On Mar 13, 2007, at 9:12 PM, Maximilian Albert wrote:

The response lyrics are supposed to begin with a special text  
symbol

that is a capital 'R' that has a slash through it.  Does anyone
know of a lilypond or LaTeX symbol that does this?


I've looked for such a thing in the past without success.


The symbol is contained (apparently) in the Apple Symbol font, and is
identified by the following:

Unicode: 211F
UTF8: E2 84 9F

- 
---


(all of which is probably of little help- sorry!)


Well, at least it helped me to get it working. ;)

If you use an editor that is unicode-aware you can simply insert the
corresponding symbol wherever it is needed and rely on lilypond to do
the rest. Of course, the precise process depends on the editor. In my
quick test I used emacs where you can enter any symbol using its hex
unicode value. Because of some weird setting that had messed up my  
meta

key I had to include the line

   (define-key global-map [?\C-c ?u] #'ucs-insert)

in my .emacs file. Then typing CTRL-C, U, 211F resulted in the symbol
being inserted. (Only a white box was shown in emacs itself but
compiling with lilypond and viewing the pdf file worked just fine).

If you use another editor and cannot figure it out yourself, maybe  
other

users know how to do it.

Hope this helps,
Max


Apple users (OSX) using a text editor with UTF-8 text encoding (I  
like Smultron, and JEdit with Lilypond tool works also) can use the  
Character Palette.


It is accessed by going to System Preferences==>International.

Click on the "Input Menu" button; check the box for Character Palette  
in the window under the buttons. Also check the box "Show input menu  
in menu bar".


The Response symbol can be found in the Character Palette by  
selecting Symbols==>Letterlike Symbols. If you double-click on the  
symbol, it will appear in the active document at the cursor. For  
example, here < ℟ >. (There is a response symbol in the <>.)


This works for any viewable character.

Stan




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RE: response character

2007-03-13 Thread Paul Harouff

In Windows select Start->Programs->Accessories->System Tools->Character Map

Choose the font Arial Unicode MS or Lucida Sans Unicode, then scroll down to 
211F (or check Advanced View, character set Unicode, and type 211F in the Go to 
Unicode box).

Select, Copy, then Paste into your ly file. 

Arial ℟
Lucida ℟

Paul

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan Sanderson
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:20 PM
To: Maximilian Albert
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: response character

On Mar 13, 2007, at 9:12 PM, Maximilian Albert wrote:

 The response lyrics are supposed to begin with a special text  
 symbol
 that is a capital 'R' that has a slash through it.  Does anyone
 know of a lilypond or LaTeX symbol that does this?
>>>
>>> I've looked for such a thing in the past without success.
>>>
>> The symbol is contained (apparently) in the Apple Symbol font, and is
>> identified by the following:
>>
>> Unicode: 211F
>> UTF8: E2 84 9F
>>
>> - 
>> ---
>>
>> (all of which is probably of little help- sorry!)
>
> Well, at least it helped me to get it working. ;)
>
> If you use an editor that is unicode-aware you can simply insert the
> corresponding symbol wherever it is needed and rely on lilypond to do
> the rest. Of course, the precise process depends on the editor. In my
> quick test I used emacs where you can enter any symbol using its hex
> unicode value. Because of some weird setting that had messed up my  
> meta
> key I had to include the line
>
>(define-key global-map [?\C-c ?u] #'ucs-insert)
>
> in my .emacs file. Then typing CTRL-C, U, 211F resulted in the symbol
> being inserted. (Only a white box was shown in emacs itself but
> compiling with lilypond and viewing the pdf file worked just fine).
>
> If you use another editor and cannot figure it out yourself, maybe  
> other
> users know how to do it.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Max

Apple users (OSX) using a text editor with UTF-8 text encoding (I  
like Smultron, and JEdit with Lilypond tool works also) can use the  
Character Palette.

It is accessed by going to System Preferences==>International.

Click on the "Input Menu" button; check the box for Character Palette  
in the window under the buttons. Also check the box "Show input menu  
in menu bar".

The Response symbol can be found in the Character Palette by  
selecting Symbols==>Letterlike Symbols. If you double-click on the  
symbol, it will appear in the active document at the cursor. For  
example, here < ? >. (There is a response symbol in the <>.)

This works for any viewable character.

Stan

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