Lyric-notehead alignment problem

2007-02-06 Thread Illtud Daniel

[apologies - I originally sent this to lilypond-bugs, I shouldn't
have]

I'm getting lyrics left-aligned to noteheads  with autobeaming off.
I'm looking for normal alignment (first vowel of syllable).
See the attached .png - it seems to be left-aligning every syllable
except for the last syllable on a beam.

This is a stripped down snippet that compiles and illustrates
the problem I've got:

\version "2.10.13"

\score  {

<<
\new Voice = "alaw"
\relative c''
 {
\time 2/4
\key g \minor
\clef treble

\autoBeamOff

bes8[ d d c] |
bes[ d ees d16 d] |

\bar "||"
}

\new Lyrics \lyricmode {

Ar8 ddydd Sul aeth
Dic yn ben -- noeth16 mewn

} >>
}


Is this a bug, or my problem? Can I fix it? Am I doing
something totally wrong (I'm a lilypond starter). I
realise that my notation is unusual (my beaming doesn't
indicate melismas), but I'm copying an 18th century
original, and it needs to stay that way.

Also, with languages with a different vowel set (this is
Welsh!) is there a way I can tell lilypond about these
so that the 'first vowel notehead alignment' works properly
with 'aeouiwy' - the Welsh vowel set?

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Re: Lyric-notehead alignment problem

2007-02-06 Thread Illtud Daniel

I guess it would also help if I actually included the png
snippet...

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Re: Lyric-notehead alignment problem

2007-02-06 Thread Bertalan Fodor
You have not associated the lyrics to the melody. You should use 
lyricsto or addlyrics, see the doc.




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Re: Lyric-notehead alignment problem

2007-02-06 Thread Illtud Daniel

Bertalan Fodor wrote:
You have not associated the lyrics to the melody. You should use 
lyricsto or addlyrics, see the doc.


But I thought that wouldn't work with manual note durations.
I'm manually beaming, and my beams don't mean melismas.

So I'm following what the doc says here:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Another-way-of-entering-lyrics

taking into account that this page:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Melismata

says "notes are considered a melisma if they are manually beamed"


What I'm missing is this:

\set associatedVoice = #"alaw"

in the \lyricmode section, but it makes no difference if I
add it (I took it out to make the snippet shorter - I shouldn't
have, really).

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Re: Lyric-notehead alignment problem

2007-02-06 Thread Bertalan Fodor
It's not a bug. The lyrics syllables are considered as melisma 
syllables, so the are aligned left.




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Re: Lyric-notehead alignment problem

2007-02-06 Thread Illtud Daniel

Bertalan Fodor wrote:
It's not a bug. The lyrics syllables are considered as melisma 
syllables, so the are aligned left.


Thanks for the reply, Bertalan - much appreciated.

So there's no way to achieve what I want? Ie, manually
beamed notes with a syllable per note within a beam aligned
normally under the note? If I go back to automatic beaming,
it works, but splits the beams differently from what I
want.

If there's no workaround... can I make a feature request? Or am
I asking for something extremely unusual?

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Re: Which LilyPond for Mac G3 (Pismo) running OS 10.4.7

2007-02-06 Thread Paul Scott

David Rogers wrote:

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 02:25:06 -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
  
Does Mac no longer use carriage for end of line since OSX.  That seem 
to be the case from the command line.



You are exactly correct. The vast majority of new files you will create, with 
just about any OS X app, will have Unix-style line endings. Most of the good 
text editors have added a function to convert either way in case you run into 
trouble with something - but mainly you should stick to the Unix style.
  

Thanks,

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Re: Lyric-notehead alignment problem

2007-02-06 Thread Bertalan Fodor
I don't understand. If you say \autoBeamOff, a8[ b] will be regarded as 
a melisma.

So the lyrics for it will be only one syllable, like, this4

Bert

Illtud Daniel írta:

Bertalan Fodor wrote:
It's not a bug. The lyrics syllables are considered as melisma 
syllables, so the are aligned left.


Thanks for the reply, Bertalan - much appreciated.

So there's no way to achieve what I want? Ie, manually
beamed notes with a syllable per note within a beam aligned
normally under the note? If I go back to automatic beaming,
it works, but splits the beams differently from what I
want.

If there's no workaround... can I make a feature request? Or am
I asking for something extremely unusual?






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Re: Lyric-notehead alignment problem

2007-02-06 Thread Bertalan Fodor
You may also be mislead by something. If you want manual beaming, you 
don't have to say \autoBeamOff, just use a[ b c d]
If you still want to leave 8th notes without automatic beams, without 
saying \autoBeamOff you can set up something like this:


#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 1 8)



Bert

Illtud Daniel írta:

Bertalan Fodor wrote:
It's not a bug. The lyrics syllables are considered as melisma 
syllables, so the are aligned left.


Thanks for the reply, Bertalan - much appreciated.

So there's no way to achieve what I want? Ie, manually
beamed notes with a syllable per note within a beam aligned
normally under the note? If I go back to automatic beaming,
it works, but splits the beams differently from what I
want.

If there's no workaround... can I make a feature request? Or am
I asking for something extremely unusual?






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Problems with Midi

2007-02-06 Thread Father Gordon Gilbert

OK, I'm gonna try this again ...

A few days ago, I wrote the list asking a question about midi,  and saw that
my message came out in the digest, but I've got no help about it, so here's
my question again:

I'm arranging a hymn for barbershop chorus, and frequently want to check my
work to make sure I get the unique barbershop harmonies correct.  I was
playing the midi file (with simple piano -- instrument is not important).
This was working fine until I introduced some 'divisi' voices in the last
stanza.  Then, all of a sudden the midi file seemed only to contain (or at
least, only to play) the lower staff notes.  Nothing I do seems to help this
-- I can't play the full piece.  I've tried with the jEdit LilyPond Tool
interface, and with WinAmp -- both sound the same.

When I compile, I get no warnings about anything going wrong, nor do I have
any problem with the PDF display.  I *would* appreciate faster compile
times, but I'm told I need more RAM for that, so I'll settle for fixing my
midi ...

I am using LilyPond 2.11.14, jEdit 4.3pre9, LilyPond Tool, and Windoze XP
Pro.  My file follows my signature.  Thanks for your help.

Fr. Gordon Gilbert+

\header {
   filename = "AmazingGrace-Sweet-Ads.ly"
   enteredby = "Gordon Gilbert"
   composer = "Traditional American Melody"
   poet = "words: Rev'd John Newton, 1779"
   arranger = "arr. Gordon Gilbert 2007"
   date=""
   title = "Amazing Grace"
   subtitle = "Arr. for Barbershop Chorus"
   metre = ""
   meter = \metre
   copyright = "Public Domain"
   style = "Hymn"
   mutopiacomposer = \composer
   mutopiapoet=\poet
   maintainer = ""
   maintainerEmail = ""
   lastupdated = "2007/02/04"
}

\version "2.11.14"
\paper{
   #(set-paper-size "letter")
}

global= {
   \time 3/4
   \key g \major



}

tenor = \context Voice = "tenor"  \relative c' {
  \voiceOne
  %\override NoteHead #'color = #grey
   %\override Stem #'color = #grey
   %\override Beam #'color = #grey {
   \partial 4 d4
   b'2 d8 b d2 dis4 e2 c4 b2
   a4 b2 d4 e2 e4 fis2 e4 d2
   d4 b2 d4 d2 b4 c4.( e8 e c) b2
   a4 b2 d4 d cis c b2 c4 b2
   d,4
   b'2 d8 b d2 dis4 e2 c4 b2
   a4 b2 d4 d2 e4 fis2 e4 d2
   d4 b2 d4 d2 b4 c4.( e8 e c) b2
   a4 b2 d4 d cis c b2 c4 b2
   d,4
   b'2 d8 b d2 dis4 e2 c4 b2
   a4 b2 d4 e2 e4 fis2 e4 d2
   d4 b2 d4 d2 b4 c4.( e8 e c) b2
   a4 b2 d4 d cis c b2.
   r2. r r r
\new Voice = tenorDivisi { \voiceOne
\transpose g b' {
   r4 r b4 b r4 r d'4 d'4 dis' e'2. c'4 b2. r4
   % }
  }}
}


lead=\context Voice = "lead"  \relative c'  {
   \voiceTwo
   \override NoteHead #'color = #red
   \override Stem #'color = #red
   \override Beam #'color = #red {
   \partial 4 d4
   g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2 e4 d2
   d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 d2. ~ d2
   b4 d4.^ "x"( b8) d( b) g2 d4 e4.( g8) g( e) d2
   d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2. ~ g2
   d4
   g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2 e4 d2
   d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 d2. ~ d2
   b4 d4.( b8) d( b) g2 d4 e4.( g8) g( e) d2
   d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2. ~ g2
   d4
   g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2 e4 d2
   d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 d2. ~ d2
   b4 d4.( b8) d( b) g2 d4 e4.( g8) g( e) d2
   d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2. a ^ \markup \italic {"Bridge"} g g f2
   \key b \major
   \transpose g b' {
   d4 \time 4/4
   g2. b8( g) b2. a4 g2. e4 d2.
   d4 g2. b8( g) b2. a4 d'1 ~ d'2.
   b4 d'2 ~ d'8( b8) d'( b) g2. d4 e2 ~ e8 ( g8) g( e) d2.
   d4 g2. b8( g) b2. a4 g1 ~ g2.
   g4 ^ \markup \italic {"Tag"}
   a ^ \fermata b ^ \fermata c' ^ \fermata
   r8 ^ \fermata d'8 d'1 ~ d' ^ \fermata
   }
   \bar "||"
   }
}

bari = \context Voice = "bari" \relative c'   {
   \voiceOne
   \partial 4 d,4
   g2 g4 g2 b4 c2 g4 g2
   a4 b2 b4 cis2 a4 d2( a4 a2)
   g4 g2 g4 d2 g4 c2 a4 g2
   a4 b2 g4 fis4. e8 fis4 g2. ~ g2
   d4
   g2 g4 d'2 b4 c2 a4 g2
   a4 b2 b4 a2 a4 d2 a4 a2
   g4 b2 b4 d2 b4 c2 a4 g2
   a4 b2 g4 fis4. e8 fis4 g2. ~ g2
   d4
   fis2 ^ \markup \italic {"Bluesy - Baris, go for the 7ths!"} fis4 c'2 b4
bes2 bes4 g2
   a4 b2 b4 g2 g4 d2 a'4 a2
   g4 g2 g4 d2 b'4 c2 a4 g2
   a4 b2 g4 fis4. e8 fis4 g2.
   r2. r r r
   \new Voice = bariDivisi { \voiceOne
\transpose g b' {
   r4 r d d r r g, g,
}

}}

bass = \context Voice = "bass" \relative c  {
   \voiceTwo
   \partial 4 d4
   g,2 b4 d2 fis4 c2 e4 g2
   fis4 e2 e4 a2 cis,4 d2( e4 fis d) d
   b2 d4 g,2 b4 c2 e4 g2
   fis4 e2 e4 d e fis g2 d4 g2
   d4
   g,2 b4 d2 b4 c2 e4 g2
   fis4 e2 e4 a,2 c4 b2.( a2) d4
   g2 g4 b2 b4 c2 a4 g4( g)
   fis4 e2 e4 d e fis g2 d4 g2
   d4
   g,2 b4 d2 b4 c2 e4 f2
   fis4 e2 e4 a,2 cis4 d2( e4 fis d) d
   b2 d4 g,2 b4 c2 e4 g2
   fis4 e2 e4 d e fis g2.
   g2. c, b' fis2
   \key b \major
   \new Voice = bassDivisi { \voiceTwo
   \transpose g b {
   d4
   g2. b4 d2. b,4 c2. e4 g2.
   fis4 e2. e4 a,2. cis4 d2.( e4 fis2 d4) d
   b,2. d4 g,2. b,4 c2. e4 g2.
   fis4 e2. e4 d2( e4) fis g2.( c4 g,2.)
   g4 c b, a, r8 g, g,1 ~ g,
   }
}}

accomp=\chordmode {
   r4 g2 g4:/b g2:/d b4:7 c2 c4:6/e g2
   d4:/fis e2.:m a2:9 a4:/cis d2. d2.:7
}



stanzaa = \lyricmode {
   \set stanza = "1."
   A -- ma -- zing Grace

Re: Lyric-notehead alignment problem

2007-02-06 Thread Illtud Daniel

Bertalan Fodor wrote:
You may also be mislead by something. If you want manual beaming, you 
don't have to say \autoBeamOff, just use a[ b c d]


You're right. This is where I'm going wrong - I understood that
I would need autobeaming switched off to be able to manual beam.
This is my mistake. Thank you for putting me right. I now have
the output that I need.

Much appreciated!

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Controlling the very first bit of "preferatory" spacing?

2007-02-06 Thread Trevor Bača

Hi,

This is obscure, but I figure it can't hurt to ask ...

In this rhythmic snippet, the "perferatory" spacing on only the very
first system collapses down to nothing (compared to the remaining
three systems). Is there any way to control this amount of
system-initial spacing and make it equal that of the remaining three
systems?

(It seems to me there was something about this somewhere in the
manual, but I'm coming up blank.)

FWIW, I think this only happens if you're using a RhythmicStaff with
proportional notation.

%%% BEGIN %%%

\version "2.11.16"

\layout { indent = #0 }

\new Score \with {
  proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 32)
} {
  \new RhythmicStaff \with {
 \remove Time_signature_engraver
  } {
 \repeat unfold 4 {
c'16 c'16 c'16 c'16
c'16 c'16 c'16 c'16
c'16 c'16 c'16 c'16
c'16 c'16 c'16 c'16  \break
 }
  }
}

%%% END %%%



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system-initial-spacing.png
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Re: Lyric-notehead alignment problem

2007-02-06 Thread Carl Sorensen
Illtud Daniel  llgc.org.uk> writes:


> See the attached .png - it seems to be left-aligning every syllable
> except for the last syllable on a beam.
> 


Does this work?  The beaming is the same as in your .png, and the lyrics are
properly aligned, as near as I can tell.



%  Beginning of Lilypond file

\version "2.10.5"  % WinXP

mylyr = \lyricmode {
Ar ddydd Sul aeth
Dic yn ben -- noeth mewn
}

mymus = {bes8 [ d d c ] | bes [ d ees d16 d] |}

\score  {

\relative c''
{
 \time 2/4
 \key g \minor
 \clef treble

% \autoBeamOff
\mymus
\bar "||"}
\addlyrics {\mylyr}
}


%% End of snippet

Carl Sorensen



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Re: Lyric-notehead alignment problem

2007-02-06 Thread Illtud Daniel

Carl,


Does this work?  The beaming is the same as in your .png, and the lyrics are
properly aligned, as near as I can tell.



% \autoBeamOff


Yes, it was my fault - I didn't understand that I didn't need to
disable autobeaming to use manual beams. It's pretty clear from
the documentation, I shouldn't have missed it.

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Re: Lyric-notehead alignment problem

2007-02-06 Thread Eduardo Vieira
Citando Illtud Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


> So there's no way to achieve what I want? Ie, manually
> beamed notes with a syllable per note within a beam aligned
> normally under the note?
Yes, there is just use this property:
\set ignoreMelismata = ##t
 Ar8 ddydd Sul aeth
 Dic yn ben -- noeth16 mewn

Eduardo

P.S. Taken from "Lyrics to multiple notes of a melisma"


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Re: Problems with Midi

2007-02-06 Thread Fred Leason

Fr Gilbert:

I typeset your example as is on version 2.11.13 on a Mac OS X.  I got  
pdf output (in spite of errors) but no midi.  Then I moved the close  
bracket for the \score command from before the \layout to the end of  
the file.  I re-typeset.  Got the midi file.  And it sounded  
complete.  In the midi section of the manual it says the midi should  
be inside \score.  Maybe that is the issue.


Good luck.

Fred Leason
fredleason at gmail dot com

On Feb 6, 2007, at 10:55 AM, Father Gordon Gilbert wrote:


OK, I'm gonna try this again ...

A few days ago, I wrote the list asking a question about midi,  and  
saw that my message came out in the digest, but I've got no help  
about it, so here's my question again:


I'm arranging a hymn for barbershop chorus, and frequently want to  
check my work to make sure I get the unique barbershop harmonies  
correct.  I was playing the midi file (with simple piano --  
instrument is not important).  This was working fine until I  
introduced some 'divisi' voices in the last stanza.  Then, all of a  
sudden the midi file seemed only to contain (or at least, only to  
play) the lower staff notes.  Nothing I do seems to help this -- I  
can't play the full piece.  I've tried with the jEdit LilyPond Tool  
interface, and with WinAmp -- both sound the same.


When I compile, I get no warnings about anything going wrong, nor  
do I have any problem with the PDF display.  I *would* appreciate  
faster compile times, but I'm told I need more RAM for that, so  
I'll settle for fixing my midi ...


I am using LilyPond 2.11.14, jEdit 4.3pre9, LilyPond Tool, and  
Windoze XP Pro.  My file follows my signature.  Thanks for your help.


Fr. Gordon Gilbert+

\header {
filename = "AmazingGrace-Sweet-Ads.ly "
enteredby = "Gordon Gilbert"
composer = "Traditional American Melody"
poet = "words: Rev'd John Newton, 1779"
arranger = "arr. Gordon Gilbert 2007"
date=""
title = "Amazing Grace"
subtitle = "Arr. for Barbershop Chorus"
metre = ""
meter = \metre
copyright = "Public Domain"
style = "Hymn"
mutopiacomposer = \composer
mutopiapoet=\poet
maintainer = ""
maintainerEmail = ""
lastupdated = "2007/02/04"
}

\version " 2.11.14"
\paper{
#(set-paper-size "letter")
}

global= {
\time 3/4
\key g \major



}

tenor = \context Voice = "tenor"  \relative c' {
   \voiceOne
   %\override NoteHead #'color = #grey
%\override Stem #'color = #grey
%\override Beam #'color = #grey {
\partial 4 d4
b'2 d8 b d2 dis4 e2 c4 b2
a4 b2 d4 e2 e4 fis2 e4 d2
d4 b2 d4 d2 b4 c4.( e8 e c) b2
a4 b2 d4 d cis c b2 c4 b2
d,4
b'2 d8 b d2 dis4 e2 c4 b2
a4 b2 d4 d2 e4 fis2 e4 d2
d4 b2 d4 d2 b4 c4.( e8 e c) b2
a4 b2 d4 d cis c b2 c4 b2
d,4
b'2 d8 b d2 dis4 e2 c4 b2
a4 b2 d4 e2 e4 fis2 e4 d2
d4 b2 d4 d2 b4 c4.( e8 e c) b2
a4 b2 d4 d cis c b2.
r2. r r r
 \new Voice = tenorDivisi { \voiceOne
 \transpose g b' {
r4 r b4 b r4 r d'4 d'4 dis' e'2. c'4 b2. r4
% }
   }}
 }


lead=\context Voice = "lead"  \relative c'  {
\voiceTwo
\override NoteHead #'color = #red
\override Stem #'color = #red
\override Beam #'color = #red {
\partial 4 d4
g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2 e4 d2
d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 d2. ~ d2
b4 d4.^ "x"( b8) d( b) g2 d4 e4.( g8) g( e) d2
d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2. ~ g2
d4
g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2 e4 d2
d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 d2. ~ d2
b4 d4.( b8) d( b) g2 d4 e4.( g8) g( e) d2
d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2. ~ g2
d4
g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2 e4 d2
d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 d2. ~ d2
b4 d4.( b8) d( b) g2 d4 e4.( g8) g( e) d2
d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2. a ^ \markup \italic {"Bridge"} g g f2
\key b \major
\transpose g b' {
d4 \time 4/4
g2. b8( g) b2. a4 g2. e4 d2.
d4 g2. b8( g) b2. a4 d'1 ~ d'2.
b4 d'2 ~ d'8( b8) d'( b) g2. d4 e2 ~ e8 ( g8) g( e) d2.
d4 g2. b8( g) b2. a4 g1 ~ g2.
g4 ^ \markup \italic {"Tag"}
a ^ \fermata b ^ \fermata c' ^ \fermata
r8 ^ \fermata d'8 d'1 ~ d' ^ \fermata
}
\bar "||"
}
}

bari = \context Voice = "bari" \relative c'   {
\voiceOne
\partial 4 d,4
g2 g4 g2 b4 c2 g4 g2
a4 b2 b4 cis2 a4 d2( a4 a2)
g4 g2 g4 d2 g4 c2 a4 g2
a4 b2 g4 fis4. e8 fis4 g2. ~ g2
d4
g2 g4 d'2 b4 c2 a4 g2
a4 b2 b4 a2 a4 d2 a4 a2
g4 b2 b4 d2 b4 c2 a4 g2
a4 b2 g4 fis4. e8 fis4 g2. ~ g2
d4
fis2 ^ \markup \italic {"Bluesy - Baris, go for the 7ths!"}  
fis4 c'2 b4 bes2 bes4 g2

a4 b2 b4 g2 g4 d2 a'4 a2
g4 g2 g4 d2 b'4 c2 a4 g2
a4 b2 g4 fis4. e8 fis4 g2.
r2. r r r
\new Voice = bariDivisi { \voiceOne
 \transpose g b' {
r4 r d d r r g, g,
 }

}}

bass = \context Voice = "bass" \relative c  {
\voiceTwo
\partial 4 d4
g,2 b4 d2 fis4 c2 e4 g2
fis4 e2 e4 a2 cis,4 d2( e4 fis d) d
b2 d4 g,2 b4 c2 e4 g2
fis4 e2 e4 d e fis g2 d4 g2
d4
g,2 b4 d2 b4 c2 e4 g2

RE: Problems with Midi

2007-02-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
This might not be much help, but I tried your file on 2.8.6 (which I am
still using) with a rearrangement of the \midi \layout and \score to suit
the 2.8.6 format and it seemed to produce correct pdf and midi, although I
didn't get the tempo right.  Here's the midi file for you to check.

Trevor
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Father Gordon Gilbert
  Sent: 06 February 2007 16:56
  To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
  Subject: Problems with Midi


  OK, I'm gonna try this again ...

  A few days ago, I wrote the list asking a question about midi,  and saw
that my message came out in the digest, but I've got no help about it, so
here's my question again:

  I'm arranging a hymn for barbershop chorus, and frequently want to check
my work to make sure I get the unique barbershop harmonies correct.  I was
playing the midi file (with simple piano -- instrument is not important).
This was working fine until I introduced some 'divisi' voices in the last
stanza.  Then, all of a sudden the midi file seemed only to contain (or at
least, only to play) the lower staff notes.  Nothing I do seems to help
this -- I can't play the full piece.  I've tried with the jEdit LilyPond
Tool interface, and with WinAmp -- both sound the same.

  When I compile, I get no warnings about anything going wrong, nor do I
have any problem with the PDF display.  I *would* appreciate faster compile
times, but I'm told I need more RAM for that, so I'll settle for fixing my
midi ...

  I am using LilyPond 2.11.14, jEdit 4.3pre9, LilyPond Tool, and Windoze XP
Pro.  My file follows my signature.  Thanks for your help.

  Fr. Gordon Gilbert+

  \header {
  filename = "AmazingGrace-Sweet-Ads.ly "
  enteredby = "Gordon Gilbert"
  composer = "Traditional American Melody"
  poet = "words: Rev'd John Newton, 1779"
  arranger = "arr. Gordon Gilbert 2007"
  date=""
  title = "Amazing Grace"
  subtitle = "Arr. for Barbershop Chorus"
  metre = ""
  meter = \metre
  copyright = "Public Domain"
  style = "Hymn"
  mutopiacomposer = \composer
  mutopiapoet=\poet
  maintainer = ""
  maintainerEmail = ""
  lastupdated = "2007/02/04"
  }

  \version " 2.11.14"
  \paper{
  #(set-paper-size "letter")
  }

  global= {
  \time 3/4
  \key g \major



  }

  tenor = \context Voice = "tenor"  \relative c' {
 \voiceOne
 %\override NoteHead #'color = #grey
  %\override Stem #'color = #grey
  %\override Beam #'color = #grey {
  \partial 4 d4
  b'2 d8 b d2 dis4 e2 c4 b2
  a4 b2 d4 e2 e4 fis2 e4 d2
  d4 b2 d4 d2 b4 c4.( e8 e c) b2
  a4 b2 d4 d cis c b2 c4 b2
  d,4
  b'2 d8 b d2 dis4 e2 c4 b2
  a4 b2 d4 d2 e4 fis2 e4 d2
  d4 b2 d4 d2 b4 c4.( e8 e c) b2
  a4 b2 d4 d cis c b2 c4 b2
  d,4
  b'2 d8 b d2 dis4 e2 c4 b2
  a4 b2 d4 e2 e4 fis2 e4 d2
  d4 b2 d4 d2 b4 c4.( e8 e c) b2
  a4 b2 d4 d cis c b2.
  r2. r r r
   \new Voice = tenorDivisi { \voiceOne
   \transpose g b' {
  r4 r b4 b r4 r d'4 d'4 dis' e'2. c'4 b2. r4
  % }
 }}
   }


  lead=\context Voice = "lead"  \relative c'  {
  \voiceTwo
  \override NoteHead #'color = #red
  \override Stem #'color = #red
  \override Beam #'color = #red {
  \partial 4 d4
  g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2 e4 d2
  d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 d2. ~ d2
  b4 d4.^ "x"( b8) d( b) g2 d4 e4.( g8) g( e) d2
  d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2. ~ g2
  d4
  g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2 e4 d2
  d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 d2. ~ d2
  b4 d4.( b8) d( b) g2 d4 e4.( g8) g( e) d2
  d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2. ~ g2
  d4
  g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2 e4 d2
  d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 d2. ~ d2
  b4 d4.( b8) d( b) g2 d4 e4.( g8) g( e) d2
  d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2. a ^ \markup \italic {"Bridge"} g g f2
  \key b \major
  \transpose g b' {
  d4 \time 4/4
  g2. b8( g) b2. a4 g2. e4 d2.
  d4 g2. b8( g) b2. a4 d'1 ~ d'2.
  b4 d'2 ~ d'8( b8) d'( b) g2. d4 e2 ~ e8 ( g8) g( e) d2.
  d4 g2. b8( g) b2. a4 g1 ~ g2.
  g4 ^ \markup \italic {"Tag"}
  a ^ \fermata b ^ \fermata c' ^ \fermata
  r8 ^ \fermata d'8 d'1 ~ d' ^ \fermata
  }
  \bar "||"
  }
  }

  bari = \context Voice = "bari" \relative c'   {
  \voiceOne
  \partial 4 d,4
  g2 g4 g2 b4 c2 g4 g2
  a4 b2 b4 cis2 a4 d2( a4 a2)
  g4 g2 g4 d2 g4 c2 a4 g2
  a4 b2 g4 fis4. e8 fis4 g2. ~ g2
  d4
  g2 g4 d'2 b4 c2 a4 g2
  a4 b2 b4 a2 a4 d2 a4 a2
  g4 b2 b4 d2 b4 c2 a4 g2
  a4 b2 g4 fis4. e8 fis4 g2. ~ g2
  d4
  fis2 ^ \markup \italic {"Bluesy - Baris, go for the 7ths!"} fis4 c'2
b4 bes2 bes4 g2
  a4 b2 b4 g2 g4 d2 a'4 a2
  g4 g2 g4 d2 b'4 c2 a4 g2
  a4 b2 g4 fis4. e8 fis4 g2.
  r2. r r r
  \new Voice = bariDivisi { \voiceOne
   \transpose g b' {
  r4 r d d r r g, g,
   }

  }}

  bass = \context Voice = "bass" \relative c  {
  \voiceTwo

Re: Problems with Midi

2007-02-06 Thread Father Gordon Gilbert

Fred,

Thanks so much for such a simple solution.  Funny thing is, I didn't change
the \score section *or* the \layout or the \midi section.  I simply
introduced some new notes and parts, when the midi quit working.  But it
works fine now, thank you very much.  BTW, what errors were you getting when
you compiled it?  I get no errors on my system -- it compiles fine, although
I now realise I've got a lot of note-reworking to do now ...

Blessings,

Fr. Gordon+


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Re: Problems with Midi

2007-02-06 Thread Father Gordon Gilbert

Trevor,

Thanks for your help.  Actually, Fred gave me a very simple fix -- move the
curly brace for the end of the \score section to the very end of the piece
-- and it worked -- now I'm on my way.

Blessings,

Fr. Gordon+

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Re: Problems with Midi

2007-02-06 Thread Fred Leason

Fr Gordon

I'm glad that was simple.

Here are the errors.  I don't understand them at all and they didn't  
seem to have an effect.  Pango complaints.  I have pango 1.14.2_0 on  
the system and all the pango stuff that came with LilyPond.  No matter.


Also, I only got chords on the first line of the PDF.  LIke I said,  
if it works for you, then go for it.


Processing `Midi2.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... [8][16][24][32][40][48][56][64][71]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
(process:27548): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GDEF table 85

(process:27548): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GPOS table 85

(process:27548): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GSUB table 85

(process:27548): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GDEF table 85

(process:27548): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GPOS table 85

(process:27548): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GSUB table 85

Interpreting music...
MIDI output to `Midi2.midi'...
Layout output to `Midi2.ps'...
Converting to `Midi2.pdf'...


On Feb 6, 2007, at 6:01 PM, Father Gordon Gilbert wrote:


Fred,

Thanks so much for such a simple solution.  Funny thing is, I  
didn't change the \score section *or* the \layout or the \midi  
section.  I simply introduced some new notes and parts, when the  
midi quit working.  But it works fine now, thank you very much.   
BTW, what errors were you getting when you compiled it?  I get no  
errors on my system -- it compiles fine, although I now realise  
I've got a lot of note-reworking to do now ...


Blessings,

Fr. Gordon+


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Re: Problems with Midi

2007-02-06 Thread Father Gordon Gilbert

Yeah, Fred,

I don't know what the Pango stuff is, either, but I get none of that on my
compiles.  The chords are only on the first line of the piece -- I haven't
completed them yet, and won't until I complete the score.  My daughter
belongs to the Sweet Adelines chorus, and she has been helping their
director to figure out some of the musicological stuff, so I'll put them in
for their benefit, once the piece is exactly as I want it.

Blessings,

Fr. Gordon+

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"Ossia" measures at the start of a system

2007-02-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello to everybody!

I'm typesetting a Mozart's aria with a preceding recitativo and I would like
to add some "ossia" measures to suggest appoggiature. Most of these measures
are actually only bits of a measure (such as the first two quaters).

I've followed the manual suggestion about ossia measures ( I'm using version
2.10.16) and I've almost obtained my goal. I've found only a problem: when
an "ossia" measure appears at the very start of a system, it is connected to
the other staves by the start delimiter. Is there a way to avoid this and let
the "ossia" measure (and its invisible "ossia" staff) alone as it is, for
instance, in the middle of a system?

This is a bit snippet to explain the situation I'm trying to modify:

 SNIPPET BEGINS %
\version "2.10"

\score {
<<
  \new Staff = ossia \with {
\remove "Time_signature_engraver"
\remove "Clef_engraver"
fontSize = #-2
\override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep -2)
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-1 . 1)
\override BarLine #'transparent = ##t
firstClef = ##f
} \relative c'' { \autoBeamOff \stopStaff s1*4 \break
 |  \startStaff c8 b \stopStaff s2. | s1*4 }

  \new Staff \relative c'' { \autoBeamOff r4 r8 g g g a b | c4 r r2 | R1*2
| b8 b d b c4 r | R1*4 }
>>
}

% SNIPPET ENDS %%

In the resulting pdf, at the start of the second system, there's an "ossia"
measure connected with the other staff as if it were a normal staff. Is there
a way to avoid this?


Thank you all for your kindness!

Gianluca D'Orazio


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