Re: German po-file and contact.ihtml

2006-12-30 Thread Till Rettig
I am sorry, I don't get this git so far. I tried now some times git pull 
(Git-addresse) and another time git-pull (address). The file de.po got 
updated, but still I find for instance the file site/about/features.html 
to miss some things (eg. the mention of canorus at the bottom). I added 
them nevertheless to the translated file de/about/features.html. Then I 
did this git-add command. But again, when trying to get the commitish 
(do I now have to change them or not; I have no clue) I get the failure 
notice: there are no rules for make.


But the least clear to me is this patch function: after doing: 
git-format-patch MY-FIRST-CHANGE^.. where "my-first-change" ist the 
commitish number found in my file on the top, there appears a lot of 
000Number-some-description files, each time some new, but they are 
clearly old (their date is 21. of december) and show the diffs 
(additions and removals) done to the website's pages. How do I then get 
*my* patch file that I can send you?


Because this didn't work so far, I will again send the corrected files 
po/de.po and de/contact.ihtml. I hope you can somehow merge them with 
the old ones.


The new files that I added today with this git-add and git commit -- 
should I make a tarball mirroring the directory-structure, but only 
containing the new files or how is it best to send them?


I'm really sorry that I make things so complicated. Hope I will 
understand this git sometimes, so I can then really use it...


Greetings
Till

Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:


Also, please pull the latest version from git and translate all entries.
I removed some dutch translations, now the top menu on lilypond.org
http://lilypond.org/web/index.de.html is not fully translated

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# de.po -- LilyPond German website language file
# Copyright (C) 2006 Till Rettig
# This file is distributed under the same license as the LilyPond package.
#
#, fuzzy
msgid ""
msgstr ""
"Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\n"
"Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: \n"
"POT-Creation-Date: 2006-11-27 17:43+0100\n"
"PO-Revision-Date: 2006-12-31 09:50+0200\n"
"Last-Translator: Till Rettig\n"
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#: scripts/format-page.py:252 scripts/format-page.py:255
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Re: German po-file and contact.ihtml

2006-12-30 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Till Rettig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am sorry, I don't get this git so far. I tried now some times git pull
> (Git-addresse) and another time git-pull (address).

Please supply the exact commands that you used.  There is no telling
what went wrong.  Have another look at the README, and tell us which
commands do not work, or what is missing.

> But the least clear to me is this patch function: after doing:
> git-format-patch MY-FIRST-CHANGE^.. where "my-first-change" ist the
> commitish number found in my file on the top, there appears a lot of
> 000Number-some-description files, each time some new, but they are
> clearly old (their date is 21. of december) and show the diffs
> (additions and removals) done to the website's pages. How do I then
> get *my* patch file that I can send you?

Look at the README.  It explains to run `git log' in order to find
the correct MY-FIRST-CHANGE committish from the git commit messages.

> Because this didn't work so far, I will again send the corrected
> files po/de.po and de/contact.ihtml. I hope you can somehow merge
> them with the old ones.

I did...

> The new files that I added today with this git-add and git commit -- should I
> make a tarball mirroring the directory-structure, but only containing the new
> files or how is it best to send them?

Please try sending them using git, if you can.  A zip file is also ok.

> I'm really sorry that I make things so complicated. Hope I will
> understand this git sometimes, so I can then really use it...

Git *is* really complicated and not very well documented.  Being easily
usable [by novices] and just doing the thing you expect are not deemed
as important as with some other VC projects.

Jan.

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Setting staff size?

2006-12-30 Thread Bertalan Fodor

#(set-global-staff-size 11) doesn't reduce the font size. Is it a bug?

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Off-Topic: Orchestration Aid

2006-12-30 Thread Mehmet Okonsar
Does anyone in the list knows some helper software for instrumentation topics, 
instruments ranges, fingerboard positions on strings etc..
Please forgive the off-topic intrusion and reply to me personally if you wish 
so.. 
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Re: Setting staff size?

2006-12-30 Thread Frédéric Chiasson

Weird, it is supposed to reduce the font size (it works in my files). But I
know that for a single staff, you must use two commands to reduce the note
font and the spaces between the staff lines :

fontSize = #-3
\override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep -3)

Hope that will help,

Frédéric


2006/12/30, Bertalan Fodor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


#(set-global-staff-size 11) doesn't reduce the font size. Is it a bug?

Bert


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Re: Off-Topic: Orchestration Aid

2006-12-30 Thread Stewart Holmes


-Original Message-
From: Stewart Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 30 December 2006 14:30
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Off-Topic: Orchestration Aid

Software wise, I know that Sibelius does some of these, for example
instrument ranges, string fingering, harp pedalling. However, given the
cost, I'd say you're much better off buying a book on instrumentation.
Contact me again in a week, and I should be able to get you the title &
author of a particularly good one I have.

Stewart

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Subject: Off-Topic: Orchestration Aid

Does anyone in the list knows some helper software for instrumentation
topics, 
instruments ranges, fingerboard positions on strings etc..
Please forgive the off-topic intrusion and reply to me personally if you
wish 
so.. 
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Off-Topic: Orchestration Aid

2006-12-30 Thread Frédéric Chiasson

Ouch!

Normally (you must know that), composers use orchestration treatises - books
- for that. I don't know about a software giving this kind of advice. I know
Sibelius change the color of the notehead when the instrument is off-bounds,
but that's all.

For fingerings and instrumentation (the science of composing for instruments
separately), I suggest the Blatter orchestration treatise, or beginner
instrument methods. Maybe the Adler might be good too to have a gradual
introduction to orchestration.

But for great advice for orchestration and instrumentation, I suggest
definitely the Koechlin's "Traité de l'orchestration". It has plenty of
great ideas for orchestral writing. But there are some problems : it is so
badly organised - you might need to look at many chapters to understand a
single topic - and it is written only in French.

But for a software? I really don't know. Maybe you could develop this!

Regards,

Frédéric Chiasson

2006/12/30, Mehmet Okonsar < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Does anyone in the list knows some helper software for instrumentation
topics,
instruments ranges, fingerboard positions on strings etc..
Please forgive the off-topic intrusion and reply to me personally if you
wish
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Re: Off-Topic: Orchestration Aid

2006-12-30 Thread Orm Finnendahl
> 2006/12/30, Mehmet Okonsar < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >Does anyone in the list knows some helper software for instrumentation
> >topics,
> >instruments ranges, fingerboard positions on strings etc..

For general information and ranges you can look here (there's a menu
for all the instrument groups):

http://www.vsl.co.at/en-us/70/149/46.vsl

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Re: Off-Topic: Orchestration Aid

2006-12-30 Thread Bonnie Rogers

Google found 



Mehmet Okonsar wrote:
Does anyone in the list knows some helper software for instrumentation topics, 
instruments ranges, fingerboard positions on strings etc..
Please forgive the off-topic intrusion and reply to me personally if you wish 
so.. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Setting staff size?

2006-12-30 Thread Bertalan Fodor
Yeah, it was my fault. I always forget that make-pango-font-tree will 
change notehead fonts as well


Frédéric Chiasson írta:
Weird, it is supposed to reduce the font size (it works in my files). 
But I know that for a single staff, you must use two commands to 
reduce the note font and the spaces between the staff lines :


fontSize = #-3
\override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep -3)

Hope that will help,

Frédéric


2006/12/30, Bertalan Fodor <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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#(set-global-staff-size 11) doesn't reduce the font size. Is it a bug?

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Re: Off-Topic: Orchestration Aid

2006-12-30 Thread Manuel

For books there are several excellent ones:

Kent Kennan: "The Technique of Orchestration" (Prentice Hall)

and the great classic by Rimsky-Korsakoff,

as well as Berlioz, the already mentioned Koechlin, and others. You  
could take a look at zvab.com (second hand) if they are not available  
in town.


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Re: Off-Topic: Orchestration Aid

2006-12-30 Thread Manuel


For books there are several excellent ones:

Kent Kennan: "The Technique of Orchestration" (Prentice Hall)

and the great classic by Rimsky-Korsakoff,

as well as Berlioz, the already mentioned Koechlin, and others. You  
could take a look at zvab.com (second hand) if they are not available  
in town.


Manuel

Am 30/12/2006 um 17:28 schrieb Bonnie Rogers:


Google found 



Mehmet Okonsar wrote:
Does anyone in the list knows some helper software for  
instrumentation topics, instruments ranges, fingerboard positions  
on strings etc..
Please forgive the off-topic intrusion and reply to me personally  
if you wish so.. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: two-pass line/page breaking and lilypond-book -- example/docs?

2006-12-30 Thread Arvid Grøtting
Graham Percival  gmail.com> writes:

> I understand even less about the two-pass stuff.

:-)

I looked again yesterday, and either I didn't look very well last time or
someone has written something.  I also looked a bit in the code, now that I knew
what to look for.  I'm not sure it works the way I was expecting, though.

In the score I was preparing, two systems per page (on four pages) became one
per page (on eight pages) with two-pass vertical spacing.  It looks like the
systems were stretched a bit too much.

I haven't reduced this to a minimal example yet; I'll try to do that and report
a bug.  I did, however, find a workaround today:

- manually reduce system-stretch in the tweaks file for the systems on the first
page, and then:

- adjust the tweak by a factor, thus:

#(define tweakFactor 0.5)

spacingTweaks =
#(define-music-function (parser location parameters) (list?)
   "Set the system stretch, by reading the 'system-stretch property of
   the `parameters' assoc list."
   #{
  \overrideProperty #"Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn"
#'line-break-system-details
#$(list (cons 'alignment-extra-space 
 (* tweakFactor (cdr (assoc 'system-stretch parameters)
   #})

It also looks like this could be used from lilypond-book.  *clickety-click*
(That was the sound of me, testing.)  And, lo and behold: This seems to work.  I
now have a lilypond-book book with the same line breaks as the individual score.

So, that part works and I seem to have answered my own question.  I'll try
boiling this down to a bug report and a bit of documentation, but probably not
this year...

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Re: Off-Topic: Orchestration Aid

2006-12-30 Thread Mehmet Okonsar
I see that the topic seems not un-welcomed to the list so I post here..
*
Thanks for all the replies.
My favorite books on the subject are:
S. Adler's and Ch. Koechlin's ones.
The Korsakoff one seems a little bit outdated for todays orchestral prouesses
I don't know Kennan's. Is there many contemporary examples?

But one jewel which seems unknown here is the Eugene Bozza's big (wall-poster 
size) charts of all instruments.
There is 2 sheets to be hang on a wall in front of your work desk and there 
you can see all (really all including commonly accepted ambitus(ses) for 
vocals) instruments with even the finger charts for strings.
It is so convenient, at a glance you get your answer!

Albeit at a too beginning level for my taste:
http://www.violinonline.com
and its derivatives for viola and cello are not bad..

But what I was seeking is something like a java interactive web site where you 
can query those things related to instrumentation, string instruments 
fingerboard positions etc.. 

In a way similar to the following tools I recommend to musicians interested 
with it: (12-Tone composing tools and set theory composing utilities)
http://composertools.com/Tools/matrix/MatrixCalc.html
http://composertools.com/Tools/PCSets/setfinder.html
They are nice useful, simple to use..

So wanted to know if someone has found a similar site(s) about instrumentation 
or a software..

Regarding the Sibelius' coloration of outranged notes:
I wouldn't go for Sibelius even if it makes me the greatest composer of today, 
(it makes me lose my time) even if it was free (in a way it is) or even if 
they pay people to use it ..;) no thanks..

On Saturday 30 December 2006 21:57, Manuel wrote:
> For books there are several excellent ones:
>
> Kent Kennan: "The Technique of Orchestration" (Prentice Hall)
>
> and the great classic by Rimsky-Korsakoff,
>
> as well as Berlioz, the already mentioned Koechlin, and others. You
> could take a look at zvab.com (second hand) if they are not available
> in town.
>
> Manuel
>
> Am 30/12/2006 um 17:28 schrieb Bonnie Rogers:
> > Google found 
> >
> > Mehmet Okonsar wrote:
> >> Does anyone in the list knows some helper software for
> >> instrumentation topics, instruments ranges, fingerboard positions
> >> on strings etc..
> >> Please forgive the off-topic intrusion and reply to me personally
> >> if you wish so.. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> thanks
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setting default number of measures per line

2006-12-30 Thread Stephen Torri
I thought that I could change the SpacingSpanner base-shortest-duration
to change how many measures there are per line. What I found was that
nothing happens when I change the value of base-shortest-duration. Here
is the controlling file is below. What is wrong?

Stephen

---

%% guitar1.ly
\include "global.ly"
\include "lyrics.ly"
\include "harmonies.ly"
\include "voices.ly"

\score {
<<
%   \chords { \global \harmonies }
<<
\new Voice { << \global \voices >> }
>>
>>
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\override SpacingSpanner #'base-shortest-duration = 
#(ly:make-moment 1 4)
}
}
}

\score{
<<
  \new ChordNames \chordmode {
d
d:7
g
a
  }
  \new Lyrics \lyricmode {
\markup
{
\override #'(barre-type . straight)
\override #'(finger-code . below-string)
\fret-diagram-terse #"x;x;o;2-1;3-3;2-2;"
} % d
\markup {
\override #'(barre-type . straight)
\override #'(finger-code . below-string)
\fret-diagram-terse #"x;x;o;2-2;1-1;2-3;"
} % d:7
\markup {
\override #'(barre-type . straight)
\override #'(finger-code . below-string)
\fret-diagram-terse #"3-2;2-1;o;o;o;3-3;"
} % g
\markup {
\override #'(barre-type . straight)
\override #'(finger-code . below-string)
\fret-diagram-terse #"x;o;2-2;2-1;2-3;o;" } % a
  }
 >>
  \layout{
ragged-right = ##t
\context{
  \Lyrics
  \override LyricSpace #'minimum-distance = #2.0
%\override ChordNames #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-1 . 4)
  \override Lyrics #'padding = #1.0
}
  }
}




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Re: Off-Topic: Orchestration Aid

2006-12-30 Thread Manuel

Am 30/12/2006 um 22:20 schrieb Mehmet Okonsar:

I see that the topic seems not un-welcomed to the list so I post  
here..

*
Thanks for all the replies.
My favorite books on the subject are:
S. Adler's and Ch. Koechlin's ones.
The Korsakoff one seems a little bit outdated for todays orchestral  
prouesses

I don't know Kennan's. Is there many contemporary examples?


Kennan has quite a few examples from Stravinsky, Ligeti, Webern,  
Schoenberg, Stockhausen, and others, especially when dealing with  
full orchestra and with percussion, but it is not mainly dedicated to  
contemporary techniques.



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Re: osx intel broken?

2006-12-30 Thread Trevor Bača

On 12/26/06, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Trevor Bača escreveu:
> On 12/25/06, Sean Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >> after unpacking the archives, they appear to be PPC programs that
>> >> won't run on my new iMac. I know I've used this software on this
>> >> computer before I re-installed it, so am I missing something? Or
>> >> is the file that is downloaded from the intel link actually a ppc
>> >> program?
>> >
>> > The frontend of the intel version claims to be ppc, but the actual
>> > processing is done in native intel code.  It works fine here.
>> > Please try double-clicking the intel version.
>> >
>> > - Graham
>>
>> hi graham, hi james,
>>
>> i've been experiencing a similar situation since i started work on a
>> macIntel, which coincided with 2.11.x coming out.
>>
>> the stable macIntel version 2.10.x runs fine on my intel macbook pro
>> (10.4.8).
>>
>> however, the macIntel 2.11.x versions will run a few times, but after
>> a certain number of measures it doesn't seem to complete the
>> compilation process. (i haven't found a pattern to it yet, the
>> current score i'm working on compiles fine up to 29 measures).
>>
>> the console stops producing any feedback suddenly and opens the .pdf
>> in Preview immediately after the "Preprocessing graphical objects..."
>> statement with no changes to the output. the "date modified" of
>> the .ps and .pdf files doen't appear to change either. when i go back
>> and comment out everything but the first few measures, it works fine
>> again.
>
> Hi Sean,
>
> I run into this exact situation every so often. Almost every time
> there winds up being something quite spectacularly off in my rhythmic
> input.
>
> I separate stuff into lots of voices and I use lots of tuplets. The
> mid-graphic-object-preprocessing hang tends to show up when I
> accidentally add or remove a couple of tuplet elements somewhere,
> causing the math not to work out between the different layered voices.
>
> Probably lots of other things can cause this same problem, but you
> might try checking your rhythmic input starting right about measure
> 28.

I think you're hitting on crashes that are triggered due to your unorthodox
rhythms. The process log window in the macos X version is not so sophisticated,
so it doesn't properly print error messages for core dumps and similar.

Still, if you can manage to reproduce any of this, please send me an offending
input.


http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=203


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Re: break without ending measure

2006-12-30 Thread Trevor Bača

On 12/29/06, Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ezequiel Sierra wrote:
> can i break before the measure ends? i need to know how. like two
> notes after the measure begins make a break and the other two notes below
I believe you can only break at a bar line which can be an invisible one:

\bar "" \break

works for me even if the measure isn't full.


That will work. And you can put \breaks in a separate voice, if you
find that easier to organize or conceptualize (keeping the breaks
"outside of" the actual music).

If you need to break in the middle of a duration of a note (medieval
or contemporary) then you'll need to \remove
Forbid_line_break_engraver.


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Scheme Problem

2006-12-30 Thread Brett Duncan
The following function is an attempt on my part to learn how to create 
such functions, based on what appears in the User Manual. The function 
itself is not really important, just a problem I set for myself. It's 
supposed to take a number as its argument and produce the equivalent 
number of slashes, the idea being to use the slash as a comping symbol, 
and substituting the slash for the normal appearance of a quarter rest.



compFor = #(define-music-function (parser location beats) (number?)
   #{
   \override Rest #'stencil = 
#ly:percent-repeat-item-interface::beat-slash

   \override Rest #'thickness = #'0.48
   \override Rest #'slope = #'1.7
  
   \repeat "unfold" $beats { r4 }
  
   \revert Rest #'stencil

   #})


But when I put

   \compFor #16

into my .ly file, the following error occurs:

syntax error, unexpected NUMBER_IDENTIFIER, expecting DIGIT or UNSIGNED
   \repeat "unfold"
\lilyvartmpb { r4 }


Can someone point out to me where I'm going wrong?

Thanks,

Brett

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beaming pattern question

2006-12-30 Thread Jay Anderson

I have this rhythm (in 6/8 meter): c8. c16 c c. So a dotted-eight
followed by 3 16ths. The default beaming pattern isn't quite what I
need. The last two 16ths are grouped and the first has a beamlet on
the left side. I want the 3 16ths grouped together. I have a couple
work-arounds:

c8.
\set stemLeftBeamCount = #1
\set stemRightBeamCount = #2
c16
\set stemLeftBeamCount = #2
c c

This is a lot of typing since this is somewhat common in the piece I'm
working on.

\set Score.beatLength = #(ly:make-moment 3 16)
c8. c16 c c
\set Score.beatLength = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)

However this seems to mess up the beaming of other rhythms.

I messed with adding an override-auto-beam-setting, but it doesn't
seem to be what I'm looking for. I also messed with beatGrouping, but
I couldn't get that to do quite what I want either. Is there a general
way to specify this rule? Thanks.

-Jay Anderson


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New bug tracker officially opened

2006-12-30 Thread Graham Percival

Greetings,

Over the past six months, we have been gradually moving to a new bug 
tracker.  This work has finally been completed; you can now look for 
your favorite bugs in


http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list


If you have reported a bug and it is not in the tracker, please check 
the latest development version of lilypond (2.11.6).  If the bug still 
exists, please follow the guidelines in


http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/bugs

Unfortunately we do not have the resources to investigate bug reports 
which do not follow those guidelines.


Cheers,
- Graham Percival, Bug Maintainer.


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Re: thoughts

2006-12-30 Thread stk

As regards allowing numbers in identifier-names:

> It might be possible to enable numbers, though.  I would welcome an
> analysis.

For lyrics, I rely on the fact that identifier-names cannot contain
numbers:

   I  = \markup { C  }
   Vs = \markup { G7 }

and later, in lyricmode, things like

   | \Vs2 \I2 |

I know this is very unconventional.  Does anybody else use identifiers
in any situation where he/she relies on the fact that identifier-names
cannot contain numbers?

(I use lyrics for typesetting chords because I want to have the use of
completely arbitrary symbols and underlining to express, succinctly, what
I mean.  Obviously, the resulting music is not for external distribution.)

-- Tom

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Orm Finnendahl escreveu:
> P.S.: Maybe one thing: Apart from suggesting to rewrite lilyponds
> parser from scratch it would be a tremendous thing if lilypond could
> get rid of some TeX related restrictions, especially the limitation to
> alphabetic characters in definitions. It would make things so much
> easier being able to use underscores and numbers in definitions! Is it
> really that hard to do (is lilypond really still using the TeX parser
> and does that actually mean you have to write the parser from
> scratch)?

numbers and underscores do make things easier to read, but it makes things
hard to parse. Consider:

  c4_\staccato_\markup { bla }

does this reference \staccato or \staccato_ ?

It might be possible to enable numbers, though.  I would welcome an analysis.

And no, lilypond is not in any way related to TeX

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