Re: Installing on Windows XP
Richard Glascodine schreef: Also, the installer kind of 'froze' at 99% (annoying) but when I clicked cancel a window popped up and said installation complete, so I carried on anyway. It looks like you're using the Cygwin version, right? The installer normally seems to hang, but if you wait long enough, it should complete by itself. However, I would advise you to use the native Windows version, it's easier to install and works faster than the Cygwin version. The current version (2.5.something) works great, but you might want to wait for 2.6.0 if you're uncomfortable using a "non-stable" version. -- Patrick Hubers ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Languages other than English on the mailing list
I too can read the French but it would be very convenient to have a translation so I do not inadvertently misunderstand. Merci Jay Benjamin Esham wrote: On Jun 24, 2005, at 9:10 AM, andrea valle wrote: (...Ehm, I'm sorry to be unpopular and I don't want to seem unkind...). I understand with no problem French and I like it very much even if I cannot speak it, but the language of the list is, helas!, English: http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Maybe other people cannot understand French and they are excluded from discussion. Perhaps when a message is posted in a language other than English, people who can read that language could send a [rough] translation to the list as well. That way, people could ask questions even if they do not speak English (though getting replies would be another matter, I guess). If I see a message in French and no one has sent along a translation, I may do this to make sure the question reaches the broadest possible audience. Any other thoughts about this? -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence POB 14162 Seattle, Wa. 98114 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Installing on Windows XP, anybody got a script for converting abc to lily?
Richard- If you know anything about abc files? It's a system mostly for trad (read folk) music usually single line though it is more flexible than that. Anyway the 'programing' is similar, rather simple and then you just need a program to translate it to notation. Again similar to the convert.ly part of lily except lily doesn't read abc files. Tabledit does and it's something else that you could be familar with as it is both a notation/guitar program and does some of what lily does too. What age/levels are you working with? Jay Richard Glascodine wrote: Wow! Thanks for the quick response. Done what you said and it works! I like the example files! It really does look classy. I think I agree with you, re: the teaching. However it could be a link between programming and music - I dont know, as I know next to nothing about the former, Anyways Thankyou for your time Rich. From: "Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Richard Glascodine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Installing on Windows XP Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:30:47 -0700 Richard- I teach also and I'm not sure if this program will do the trick at this stage in it's development. It's very time consuming and constantly changing. That said. Run the set up exe and that's when you should be able to place the icon and other info where you need it. Ex. For convenience in my mind I made a lily folder everything is in there. There will be a welcome file and it will tell you what to do next. From there it's a matter of really using the documentation- cutting pasting and constantly correcting. In all honesty I have found that working with lily... in linux is about 8x easier than in XP even though running linux is probably 7x harder to run in a usual way. If you've had experience with Sibelius/Finale/Sunhawk/Noteworthy/ and some programing then lily will be just another step into the world of control but it's a really tall step. Jay Richard Glascodine wrote: Sorry about that, I pressed Enter by accident! Hi, Yeah, I'm really keen to try out lilypond. I too agree with you that Sibelius Scores et al just dont look right- they look really amatuer dont they. Anyway I digress I followed your instructions about downloading lilypond for WIndows XP through setup.exe. My question is what happens after it has downloaded, does an icon appear on my start menu or do I have to type a command line or something? (Which I'm not sure how to do). Some things which may help: I chose a differerent download site because the one on the top took ages (about 0.6kbs) - I have boadband - thats a shit rate! Also, the installer kind of 'froze' at 99% (annoying) but when I clicked cancel a window popped up and said installation complete, so I carried on anyway. If you could clarify a few points for me that would be great as I really want to see what the results are like. I'm starting a music teaching course in September (for schools) and I'm just sussing out open source software, to see if they are suitable in my music teaching. (I'm also sussing out linux as well but its confusing!) Many thanks Richard Glascodine (wannabe lilypond user) [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger 7.0 today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence POB 14162 Seattle, Wa. 98114 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com _ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence POB 14162 Seattle, Wa. 98114 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
parse error
Hi! I just installed Lilypond with fink on my ibook G4 (10.3.9.). When I tested dyld didn't found libkpathsea.3.4.5.dylib. I only have libkpathsea.4.0.0.dylib so i made a link to it with this name. That caused this result: tbook:~ tosek$ lilypond foo lilypond (GNU LilyPond) 2.2.6 Running lilypond-bin... Now processing `foo.ly' Parsing... /Users/tosek/foo.ly:1:1: error: parse error: { /Users/tosek/foo.ly:2:0: warning: Braces don't match: a Failed files: foo.ly lilypond: error: LilyPond failed on input file foo (exit status 1) lilypond: warning: Running LilyPond failed. Rerun with --verbose for a trace. tbook:~ tosek$ lilypond --verbose foo lilypond (GNU LilyPond) 2.2.6 Opening pipe `/sw/bin/lilypond-bin --version ' Opening pipe `kpsexpand \$TEXMF' Opening pipe `kpsewhich -expand-path=\$T1FONTS' Invoking `/sw/bin/lilypond-bin -I /Users/tosek -I /Users/tosek -I /Users/tosek -H dedication -H title -H subtitle -H subsubtitle -H footer -H head -H composer -H arranger -H instrument -H opus -H piece -H metre -H meter -H poet -H texttranslator -H textheight -H fontencoding -H latexheaders -H language -H latexpackages -H papersize -H pagenumber -H inputencoding -H latexoptions -H linewidth -H unit -H orientation --verbose foo' lilypond_datadir: `/sw/share/lilypond' local_lilypond_datadir: `/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6' localedir: `/sw/share/locale' LILYPONDPREFIX: `' [/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/scm/define-music-types.scm][/sw/share/ lilypond/2.2.6/scm/output-lib.scm][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/scm/ c++.scm][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/scm/chord-ignatzek-names.scm][/sw/ share/lilypond/2.2.6/scm/chord-entry.scm][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/scm/ chord-generic-names.scm][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/scm/stencil.scm][/sw/ share/lilypond/2.2.6/scm/new-markup.scm][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/scm/ bass-figure.scm][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/scm/music-functions.scm][/sw/ share/lilypond/2.2.6/scm/part-combiner.scm][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/ scm/define-music-properties.scm][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/scm/auto- beam.scm][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/scm/chord-name.scm][/sw/share/ lilypond/2.2.6/scm/define-context-properties.scm][/sw/share/lilypond/ 2.2.6/scm/translation-functions.scm][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/scm/ script.scm][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/scm/midi.scm][/sw/share/lilypond/ 2.2.6/scm/beam.scm][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/scm/clef.scm][/sw/share/ lilypond/2.2.6/scm/slur.scm][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/scm/font.scm][/ sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/scm/define-markup-commands.scm][/sw/share/ lilypond/2.2.6/scm/define-grob-properties.scm][/sw/share/lilypond/ 2.2.6/scm/define-grobs.scm][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/scm/define-grob- interfaces.scm][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/scm/page-layout.scm][/sw/ share/lilypond/2.2.6/scm/paper.scm] Now processing `foo.ly' Parsing... [/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/ly/init.ly[/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/ly/ declarations-init.ly[/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/ly/nederlands.ly][/sw/ share/lilypond/2.2.6/ly/drumpitch-init.ly][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/ly/ chord-modifiers-init.ly][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/ly/script-init.ly][/ sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/ly/scale-definitions-init.ly][/sw/share/ lilypond/2.2.6/ly/grace-init.ly][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/ly/midi- init.ly[/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/ly/performer-init.ly]][/sw/share/ lilypond/2.2.6/ly/engraver-init.ly][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/ly/ dynamic-scripts-init.ly][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/ly/spanners- init.ly][/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/ly/property-init.ly]][/Users/tosek/ foo.ly /Users/tosek/foo.ly:1:1: error: parse error: { c'4 e' g' } ]((gc-time-taken . 63) (cells-allocated . 227450) (cell-heap-size . 464896) (bytes-malloced . 1065261) (gc-malloc-threshold . 1230753) (gc-times . 30) (gc-mark-time-taken . 34) (gc-sweep-time-taken . 29) (cells-marked . 3232099) (cells-swept . 5705632) (cell-heap-segments (3301376 . 3252224) (3321856 . 3305472) (3735552 . 3670016) (3837952 . 3739648) (3989504 . 3842048) (4157440 . 3993600) (4374528 . 4161536) (4706304 . 4378624) (7045120 . 6553600) (7786496 . 7049216) (8167424 . 7856128) (22089728 . 20992000)))] /Users/tosek/foo.ly:1:9: warning: Braces don't match: { c'4 e' g' } Failed files: foo.ly lilypond: warning: `lilypond-bin' failed (status 1) (ignored) lilypond: error: LilyPond failed on input file foo (exit status 1) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/sw/bin/lilypond", line 873, in ? run_lilypond (files, dep_prefix) File "/sw/bin/lilypond", line 296, in run_lilypond ly.exit (status) File "/sw/share/lilypond/2.2.6/python/lilylib.py", line 130, in exit raise _ ('Exiting (%d)...') % i Exiting (256)... Cleaning /tmp/@732.0lilypond... Anybody has an idea what's wrong? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Languages other than English on the mailing list
On 25 jun 2005, at 18:22, Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: I too can read the French but it would be very convenient to have a translation so I do not inadvertently misunderstand. Merci Jay Not only that, but posting your question in a language other than english will deprive your access to a big pool of knowledgable people who can discuss in English, but can't in the posted language. What I'm trying to state is that you do yourself a favour by posting in English. --- A marriage is always made up of two people who are prepared to swear that only the other one snores. -- (Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: parse error
On 25-Jun-05, at 10:55 AM, Tobias Sebastian Kuhn wrote: tbook:~ tosek$ lilypond foo lilypond (GNU LilyPond) 2.2.6 Please either use fink unstable and lilypond (2.4.6, IIRC), or the new binary package (preferred option, gives 2.5.32) downloaded from the lilypond website. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: scm functions scope and arguments
Nicolas, your answer was very helpful - thanks There should not be parens alone on a line. When you read Lisp or Scheme code, parentheses are not that important, what you look at is indentation. Me coming from C/C++ and pascal, I find scheme quite hard to read actually, but I guess it's a matter of being used to it. Thanks for the hint, I'll follow it :) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Languages other than English on the mailing list
Arjan Bos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 25 jun 2005, at 18:22, Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: > >> I too can read the French but it would be very convenient to have a >> translation so I do not inadvertently misunderstand. >> Merci >> Jay >> > > Not only that, but posting your question in a language other than > english will deprive your access to a big pool of knowledgable people > who can discuss in English, but can't in the posted language. > What I'm trying to state is that you do yourself a favour by posting > in English. How curious may it seem to you, not every body on this planet can write in English. I've seen fontconfig and pango in LilyPond's dependencies/requirements, not English language read and written. nicolas ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Installing on Windows XP, anybody got a script for converting abc to lily?
The LilyPond distribution does indeed contain a program called abc2ly, see the section on "Converting from other formats in the LilyPond manual. However, if you use the new installation package for Windows, there are some extra tricks needed to run the extra programs like convert-ly and abc2ly, since they rely on the program Python that isn't included in the installation (at least as far as I know) see the mailing list archives for more information. /Mats Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: Richard- If you know anything about abc files? It's a system mostly for trad (read folk) music usually single line though it is more flexible than that. Anyway the 'programing' is similar, rather simple and then you just need a program to translate it to notation. Again similar to the convert.ly part of lily except lily doesn't read abc files. Tabledit does and it's something else that you could be familar with as it is both a notation/guitar program and does some of what lily does too. What age/levels are you working with? Jay Richard Glascodine wrote: Wow! Thanks for the quick response. Done what you said and it works! I like the example files! It really does look classy. I think I agree with you, re: the teaching. However it could be a link between programming and music - I dont know, as I know next to nothing about the former, Anyways Thankyou for your time Rich. From: "Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Richard Glascodine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Installing on Windows XP Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:30:47 -0700 Richard- I teach also and I'm not sure if this program will do the trick at this stage in it's development. It's very time consuming and constantly changing. That said. Run the set up exe and that's when you should be able to place the icon and other info where you need it. Ex. For convenience in my mind I made a lily folder everything is in there. There will be a welcome file and it will tell you what to do next. From there it's a matter of really using the documentation- cutting pasting and constantly correcting. In all honesty I have found that working with lily... in linux is about 8x easier than in XP even though running linux is probably 7x harder to run in a usual way. If you've had experience with Sibelius/Finale/Sunhawk/Noteworthy/ and some programing then lily will be just another step into the world of control but it's a really tall step. Jay Richard Glascodine wrote: Sorry about that, I pressed Enter by accident! Hi, Yeah, I'm really keen to try out lilypond. I too agree with you that Sibelius Scores et al just dont look right- they look really amatuer dont they. Anyway I digress I followed your instructions about downloading lilypond for WIndows XP through setup.exe. My question is what happens after it has downloaded, does an icon appear on my start menu or do I have to type a command line or something? (Which I'm not sure how to do). Some things which may help: I chose a differerent download site because the one on the top took ages (about 0.6kbs) - I have boadband - thats a shit rate! Also, the installer kind of 'froze' at 99% (annoying) but when I clicked cancel a window popped up and said installation complete, so I carried on anyway. If you could clarify a few points for me that would be great as I really want to see what the results are like. I'm starting a music teaching course in September (for schools) and I'm just sussing out open source software, to see if they are suitable in my music teaching. (I'm also sussing out linux as well but its confusing!) Many thanks Richard Glascodine (wannabe lilypond user) [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger 7.0 today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence POB 14162 Seattle, Wa. 98114 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com _ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Title of a multi-movement piece of several ly files
Move the \header{...} blocks into the respective \score{...} blocks, i.e. something like: \score{ ... \header { piece="Kyrie" composer="" tagline= "" } } /Mats Imruska wrote: Hello, I created a Palestrina Mass score, each movement (Kyrie, Gloria, Credo, Sanctus, Benedictus, Agnus I, Agnus II) in an independent file, and I tried to create a file (missa.ly) to contain them all, using \include "kyrie.ly" \include "gloria.ly" etc. The header of missa.ly is: \header { title = "Missa Sine nomine" composer = "Palestrina" tagline = "" } whereas the headers of the individual files are \header { piece="Kyrie" composer="" tagline= "" } I copied this from a file my brother did with Lilypond 1.6.5, and it worked there. I'm using 2.5.31 on Linux, and this does not work, I do not get title, nor composer, and I get for each movement the piece title of "Agnus Dei II", i.e. the piece information of the very last file. How can this be done? I did not find information about this in the manual, either. Imruska ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re:converting abc to lily?
Mats- that's very interesting. What I can't see/find in the archives, or maybe just don't understand is how to acquire abc2ly or the midi2ly or python for that matter. Also when the instruction say invoke- I know where and how to do that in linux but am a bit uncertain as to how to go about that in XP- Does it mean that the program is already part of lily and that I need to run it from a command line? Jay Mats Bengtsson wrote: The LilyPond distribution does indeed contain a program called abc2ly, see the section on "Converting from other formats in the LilyPond manual. However, if you use the new installation package for Windows, there are some extra tricks needed to run the extra programs like convert-ly and abc2ly, since they rely on the program Python that isn't included in the installation (at least as far as I know) see the mailing list archives for more information. /Mats Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: Richard- If you know anything about abc files? It's a system mostly for trad (read folk) music usually single line though it is more flexible than that. Anyway the 'programing' is similar, rather simple and then you just need a program to translate it to notation. Again similar to the convert.ly part of lily except lily doesn't read abc files. Tabledit does and it's something else that you could be familar with as it is both a notation/guitar program and does some of what lily does too. -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence POB 14162 Seattle, Wa. 98114 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Languages other than English on the mailing list
Nicolas Sceaux wrote on 2005 June 25: > How curious may it seem to you, not every body on this planet can write > in English. I've seen fontconfig and pango in LilyPond's > dependencies/requirements, not English language read and written. Yes, well put. When I recently became interested in this clearly international mailing list, I assumed that users adventurous enough to tackle the complexities of Lilypond would of necessity be flexible, certainly the sort of people who have figured out that if you want to have any hope of extracting maximal information from the Web, you'd better be able to at least read straightforward French, Spanish, Italian, German and Dutch. I see I was mistaken. I have witnessed, hundreds of times, conversations with person A speaking one language and person B replying in a different language. Encouraging such a procedure here would seem better than driving away those who are not comfortable presenting a question in English. -- Tom ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user