Re: Newbie question on abc2ly
Please always tell what LilyPond version you are using when you send a question to the mailing list. There has been some recent discussions about bugs and limitations in abc2ly on the mailing list, check the mailing list archives for lilypond-devel and bug-lilypond. /Mats Chuck Boody wrote: Well, I said I wasn't any great shakes at lilypond :-> I can invoke abc2ly and the result is a file I can see has been changed to what I believe is lilypond syntax. Clearly however this file needs proper header information and other things to allow lilypond to process it. If I try to process the file I get "warning:Needs music in a score." Could someone point me to the right spot in the documentation to discover what I need to do or perhaps provide a shell that I could use as a starting point? Many Thanks, Chuck Boody ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: email list rules and guidelines, attachments?
I don't know about any strict rules, but it's common sense not to send too large attachments to a mailing list. On the other hand, a (small) attached image is often an excellent illustration and as you point out it is useful also in the archives. For a period during last year, the mailing list responsible was forced to strip off any attachment because of the huge amount of virus emails floating around. Fortunately, the situation has improved so the attachments are allowed again. /Mats Steve D wrote: Regarding lilypond-user, are there guidelines for posting, whether attachments are allowed, what kind of attachments are allowed, etc.? In searching the archives I found that PNG images were at one time discouraged (during the first quarter of 2004). If PNG or GIF images are now allowed (to illustrate notation problems/solutions), must they not exceed a certain filesize? Should they be attached "inline" or "as an attachment" (would that be Base64-encoded MIME?) in one's email program. I recently solved one of my own notation problems and wished to attach a PNG image as well as include an annotated excerpt from the .ly file to illustrate how I solved the problem. Although I could upload a PNG to my own webspace and provide a link, that may not be as permanent for the email list archives since my webspace and its contents may change. Thank you, Steve D, NM US ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond-book problem
You are exactly to the point when you refer to the initialization files,
which (at least in the version you use) are really only necessary when
you want to run lilypond-book. I don't know Gentoo, but in most other
Linux distibutions, the precompiled LilyPond packages install a file
/etc/profile.d/lilypond.sh which means that it automatically is sourced
as soon as you open a new shell (if you use bash).
If you compiled LilyPond yourself, please make sure that you install
this file using
cp buildscripts/out/lilypond-profile /etc/profile.d/lilypond.sh
Don't try to set TEXMF yourself, it's much better to use the solution
already available in the lilypond profile file.
/Mats
Anne Defaweux wrote:
Hello,
I've installed version 2.0.3 (I could not get de most recent one to work
at all).
This version succeeds in building ps and pdf partition.. however, I have
a problem with the lilypond-book option. When I use the lilypond
command, it seems to work nicely (as you can see from output 1)
However, when I try to compile the output with latex, it does not find
any of the lilponds defs (see output 2) and when giving the path to the
defs, it crashes further on the fonts...
It seems that latex does not know where to look. What should I do.
Manually trying to set TEXMF does not do it: when I do the following:
export TEXMF="{/usr/share/lilypond/2.0.3,"`kpsexpand \\$TEXMF`"}"
I then have following value for TEXMF:
bash-2.05b$ echo $TEXMF
{/usr/share/lilypond/2.0.3,
{/home/tazz/texmf,!!/usr/local/share/texmf,!!/usr/share/texmf}}
First, lilypond-book refuses to work, second, if I use previous output
from lilypond book, and compile it with latex, I get a latex error
(output 3)
I know that there are "initialisation files" however, for the 2.0.3
version, it works without them (until the latex stuff) and with the
other version, I never found out how to get them working. (I am running
linux workstation -> gentoo distribution)
thanks for any help.
Anne
---
Output 1:
bash-2.05b$ lilypond-book --outdir=out/ test.tex
lilypond-book (GNU LilyPond) 2.0.3
Reading `/home/tazz/perso/music/test.tex'
Running latex...
Running usr...
Now processing: `lily-2018454.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...[8][11]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Calculating line breaks... [3][6][9][11]
paper output to `lily-2018454.tex'...
Writing `out/test.latex'
---
Output 2:
bash-2.05b$ latex test.latex
This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5)
(./test.latex
LaTeX2e <2001/06/01>
Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german,
ngerman, n
ohyphenation, loaded.
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls
Document Class: article 2001/04/21 v1.4e Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo))
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/graphics.cfg)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/dvips.def))
No file test.aux.
(./lily-2018454.tex
! I can't find file `lilyponddefs'.
l.33 \input lilyponddefs
Please type another input file name:
-
output 3:
bash-2.05b$ latex test.latex
This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5)
kpathsea: Running mktexfmt latex.fmt
fmtutil: config file `fmtutil.cnf' not found.
I can't find the format file `latex.fmt'!
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Re: How do i gett historical f- clef on third (middle) line
Try \clef "varbaritone" \set Staff.clefGlyph = #"clefs-petrucci-f" and use clefs-mensural-f instead of clefs-petrucci-f for the mensural version. /Mats Laura Conrad wrote: "as" == anders stenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: as> Hello! as> Got this problem when doing renaisance music editions and making an as> incipit in mensural notation. I some times have to get an f- clef on as> third (middle) line. With modern clefs this is easy: you use the as> "varibariton" command or a "f3" command But when using historical as> clefs mensural or petrucci that doesn't work as neither as> "petrucci-f3" nor as> "mensural-f3" command works. I have the same problem. -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: "repeat" slashes and the nature of lilypond
> Your cause would be considerably furthered if you would come up with the > comprehensive user documentation, in the context of Lilypond as compared to > the others. > > cheers > /Hans As it appears the developers/users are not sympathetic to my cause, I will simply drop my request. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: "repeat" slashes and the nature of lilypond
> I'm no great shakes as a lilypond user, but I do understand the need > for transposable chord names. Some of us (many of us?) may create > leadsheets of one sort or another. Essentially those are melody and > chord names. If there is a need to transpose the thing it is > cumbersome at best to have to transpose the chord names. As to the > many methods of describing chords: There really are only a couple in > common usage and one that is extremely common. If lilypond supports > that, and it appears from this discussion that it does, I can see no > real problem with creating the transposition or creating MIDI files > (shich of course merely act as aural checks for right chords and don't > imply anything at all about spacing or even inversion > > Chuck Boody Like I said, you only need the base notename to transpose, not the symbol. But if not enough people want what I want, I will just withdraw my request. It appears that now you can typeset using any font you want. If I can get it working in cygwin I'll just import the Jazzcord font set and try to get something working there. Thanks. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
excited about new font feature
I'm excited about the new feature that would let me use any TrueType font. I'll have to wait until a stable release comes out for cygwin, I suppose, but it seems interesting. Although it might be an aesthetic mismatch and not exactly elegant, it seems like a good way to get graphical symbols from other notation programs, most of which use TrueType fonts for all their graphics. I don't know how it would work out. It might be difficult to align and place everything piece by piece. But for example, if you needed a special articulation mark you couldn't get in Lilypond, it might be a good idea. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Darn, it doesn't work
Hi, I have just downloaded your LilyPond program, following the instructions for MS Windows. Testing it on the supplied test.ly unfortunately produced 2 blank pdfs. My computer runs on Windows XP Version 5.1 (Build 2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158 : Service Pack 2) I hope that you can help with this problem. The results ddisplayed on your web site looke great. I am really looking forward to being able to use it, and appreciate the considerable amount of work you must have done on it. Thanks, Barry Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] test.log Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Darn, it doesn't work -- NOW IT DOES
Sorry to have bothered you. After an unsuccesful attempt at reinstallation I did a "brute force" uninstall, then re-ran the original setup.exe and installed from the local directory. This time the test.ly worked fine. Thanks. - Original Message - Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 2:44 PM Subject: Darn, it doesn't work Hi, I have just downloaded your LilyPond program, following the instructions for MS Windows. Testing it on the supplied test.ly unfortunately produced 2 blank pdfs. My computer runs on Windows XP Version 5.1 (Build 2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158 : Service Pack 2) I hope that you can help with this problem. The results ddisplayed on your web site looke great. I am really looking forward to being able to use it, and appreciate the considerable amount of work you must have done on it. Thanks, Barry Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Output problem
Hi -- I recently upgraded to the most recent lilypond, and I get this message when I run the program: Preprocessing graphical objects... warning: conflicting metric coding (parmesanMusic) and font_encoding (fetaMusic) The output is fine musically, but the text font is the wrong size and typestyle, running all over itself. Advice, please? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Output problem
Please tell us what you mean by "most recent lilypond" and some information on what platform you use, if you installed it from a precompiled package or compiled it yourself and so on. /Mats Martin Willett wrote: Hi -- I recently upgraded to the most recent lilypond, and I get this message when I run the program: Preprocessing graphical objects... warning: conflicting metric coding (parmesanMusic) and font_encoding (fetaMusic) The output is fine musically, but the text font is the wrong size and typestyle, running all over itself. Advice, please? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: "repeat" slashes and the nature of lilypond
On 2/21/05 8:45 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Your cause would be considerably furthered if you would come up with the >> comprehensive user documentation, in the context of Lilypond as compared to >> the others. >> >> cheers >> /Hans > > As it appears the developers/users are not sympathetic to my cause, I > will simply drop my request. > Perhaps the user base is more sympathetic than you think. I for one have found that for the folk based stuff I have notated, the current set up is adequate. But for jazz I find the current scheme a bit wanting. For example it is possible to change the Maj7 symbol to be either a triangle or text (I can't say I have encountered any jazz source that refers to Maj7 chords as j7). I looked through the chord name chart that is included in the documentation and was surprised to find a couple of things that I have not noticed before. For example how to get a m7b5 (half dim.7) I found that I could get the small circle with the slash through it but it does not include that 7th indication. The Major 7th with the triangle drops the 7th as well. I understand that without the 7th you just get the capital letter, but here in North America the defacto standard as I am aware is the Real Book. Here, the Maj7 is Maj7 and half dim. 7 is m7b5, diminished chords are the small chord (no seventh) and fully dim 7 is dim7. How tough would it be to be able to customize or choose these options? I am not proposing a rework of how chords are handled but (hopefully) just a line or two of code to add to the current definitions. I looked at the files: chord-modifiers-init.ly, and the scheme (.scm) files and not being a programmer, these all escaped me what was going on in them so I cannot figure out a way to hack them. Perhaps others on the list would have suggestions. Is there another standard in Europe? I am assuming that the Ignatzek system is more common in Europe and this is why it was chosen as the default. I should also point out that when I input chord names, I only use the names (eg. e:maj7) as opposed to the naming of pitches () Thanks to the list for pondering this. Walter Hofmeister ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
lilypond install mac os x
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hi! > I've just finished a shorter version of the previous tutorial on how to > install lily on Mac. > Do you think is it good now? > I have also some screenshots. > Now, I'm editing the longer version for newbies. > Let me know. Could you install it as HTML files on a website somewhere, so we can make it show up in our browser? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tutorial install mac os x
Il giorno 21/feb/05, alle 05:47, Chuck Boody ha scritto: There are some grammar errors and I have a couple of other suggestions. Would you like me to re-write your file and mail my changes to you??? yes, of course, it would be great! libero Chuck Boody On Feb 20, 2005, at 1:12 PM, Libero Mureddu wrote: Hi! I've just finished a shorter version about how to install lily on mac os x I have also some screenshots, but they are too big to send them on the mailing list. Let me know if is good. I'm finishing the longer version, for newbies. Libero Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 As. 429 00350 Helsinki - Finlandia Tel. +358-9-5808429 Mob. +358-41-7702668 Via Abbiati, 4 20148 Milano - Italia Tel. +39-02-4075953 Mob. +39-339-8757587___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Libero Mureddu Vanha Viertotie, 21 As. 429 00350 Helsinki - Finlandia Tel. +358-9-5808429 Mob. +358-41-7702668 Via Abbiati, 4 20148 Milano - Italia Tel. +39-02-4075953 Mob. +39-339-8757587 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tutorial install mac os x
On 20-Feb-05, at 11:12 AM, Libero Mureddu wrote: I've just finished a shorter version about how to install lily on mac os x I have also some screenshots, but they are too big to send them on the mailing list. Let me know if is good. I'm finishing the longer version, for newbies. Looks good -- and other than editing /sw/etc/fink.conf, I think this version is detailed enough for newbies. Especially if you have a few screenshots. A few little comments: I'm not certain how the abcde "requirements" match up with the numbers below. I'd just use dashes: - download X11 - download fink - blah blah Under #2, you jump from letter e to g. In the future, "lilypond-unstable" will probably be renamed to "lilypond-dev" or "-devel"; that should simply the issue between fink stable/unstable and lilypond/lilypond-unstable. It doesn't help right now, but in a month or two it will. :) You might want to suggest "nice fink install lilypond"; that makes sure that the compiling is done at a lower priority than anything else on the computer, so everything else will be much smoother. One the second-last line (in section 8d) you spelled which as "wich" instead of "which". Cheers, - Graham Percival ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Feature request - extended ties
On Sunday 20 February 2005 10:07 am, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Han-Wen, all-- > I understand what you need, and I'll look into it. I only know this > notation from grace notes writing out an arpeggiated chord. Do you > know whether it is also used without grace notes (ie. with the 16th > notes being normal rhythmic notes?) Here you go. The tie coming from the left edge is to the d\sharp on the right(!). The accent is achieved by muting the notes that are tied to nothing a hair before the beat, thus placing an accent on a tied note! This is copyrighted, HVL Etude No. 8, pub. Schott. I have used less than a measure, so it is legitimate fair use. -- When practicing tech: Don't practice the scale, practice each note. When practicing music: Don't practice each note, practice the music. When practicing an etude: Practice the music and each note too. The only technical exercises for all guitarists worth a lifetime of practice: "Dynamic Guitar Technique". Nothing else is close. Free download: http://www.openguitar.com/dynamic.html daveA David Raleigh Arnold dra..at..openguitar.com <>___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
