Re: Combo Template for Lilypond 2.4

2004-12-22 Thread Christ van Willegen
Hi Rick, list,

> I would also like to create an include file (see below) with guitar
> chord diagrams. Does anyone have any suggestion for a naming standard
> for all of the different forms of the same chord?

I applaud this!

I would suggest dmaj_II for plaring a major D chord in the 2nd
position (a 'shifted' C major chord).

Christ van Willegen


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Re: Triplets at the other direction

2004-12-22 Thread Graham Percival
On 18-Dec-04, at 8:22 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Joshua Koo wrote:
Hi,
When I have triplet, the 3 is in the same direction of the stems (eg. 
3 is at the bottom if stem are down) . However I like it at the side 
of the note head, which means the opposite direction the stem are 
facing. (eg. I would like the 3 to be above the notes when stems are 
down).

If I were to use the \tupletUp or \tupletDown then I would have to 
specify every triplets I have. Is there a \trupletOpposite? Or maybe 
there's ae property to be set to negative?

As far as I know, this is not supported for the moment, but it might 
be a nice feature to
have an additional possible value for the direction property of any 
object, which means
do the opposite of the default value (the latter part of the answer is 
intended for the
developers).
Interesting idea.  Couldn't this be done with repeats, tupletUp/Down, 
and
part combining?

I'm not certain of the syntax, but something like this?
opposites= {
\repeat unfold 8 { \tupletUp s4 \tupletDown s4}
}
music = {
blah blah
}
\score{
<< \opposites \music >>
}
Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: Building Lily

2004-12-22 Thread Mats Bengtsson
The problem sounds familiar. Check the access rights of the 
.../share/lilypond/... directories.
My guess is that only root has access to some of these directory levels.

   /Mats
dax2 wrote:
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:40:46 -0500
Luis wrote:
 

Please excuse me... now I have a strange problem: If I run lilypond as
root, it works... but if I do it as a regular user, I get this:
-
GNU LilyPond 2.4.2
Processing `prueba.ly'
Analizando...
Interpreting music... error: can't find `feta20.afm'
Music font has not been installed properly.  Aborting
-
   

This is the font environment setting question again.
May be caused by a shell-environment which is not properly
initialized. You must read all the shell-login scripts (and
understand and debug them :-(!))
or 

  keep running as root
or, better, use
  buildscripts/out/lilypond-profile
which should be manually added or sourced from your /etc/profile
or /etc/bashprofile (what name is used by bash?) Some setups use
  . /etc/lilypond/lilypond-profile
but names are distribution specific, so it could be
  . /etc/profiles.d/lilypond
(I avoid these problems by having a /.lilypond script at hand at
every time which I source manually :)
SOURCE: source a script means to run the script by using the
dot-command (or "source"-command in bash)
regards/Donald
 



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Re: Notes having two values contemporaneously

2004-12-22 Thread Ralph Little
Hi, 
It sounds like you are talking about something like:

|\ |\
|  |
 * **  *
 | ||  |
 ======

Is this right? It doesn't seem to obey the timing rules?!??!

Or do you mean...

  |\ |\
  |  |
 * **  *
 | ||  |
 ======


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Re: Notes having two values contemporaneously

2004-12-22 Thread Maurizio Tomasi
Die5Willes wrote:
Hello!
I'm trying to type a piece by Robert Schumann: "Des Abends" (Evening) from the 
Phantasiestücke op. 12 for piano solo. The time-signature is 2/8 (no mistake!!) and the 
right hand plays tuplets in 16th-notes for almost the entire piece. So there are two 
tuplets a measure with stems down but they are printed in a manner that every second note 
is not only a 16th-note but at the same time an 8th-note with stem UP!
Does anybody know how to do that?
I'm using lily 2.2.5 on a windows-operated machine.
Thank you very much
cu
Stefan
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You can use multiple voices, like in the following example:
\version "2.4.2"
\score {
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\time 2/8
\set Score.tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
\override Score.TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##f
<< \times 2/3 { \stemDown c16 e g e g c } \\
   \times 2/3 { \override TupletBracket #'number-visibility = ##f
\stemUp s16 e,8 s16 g8 } >>
}
\layout { raggedright = ##t }
}
Hope this is what you are looking for.  Maybe you will have to correct 
this score in order to run under Lily 2.2.5.

Maurizio.
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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 25, Issue 49

2004-12-22 Thread Bryan Stanbridge

On 12/22/2004, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Michael T. Garrison Stuber"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I'm hitting a strange issue with Lilypond 2.4.2. The following works just
>fine:
>frag = {
>\key bes \major
>\time 3/4
>{ r2. r r r4 r c g,2 e,4 e,4 f, g,~g, a, bes,~bes, c2 d2. ees
>r r r r
>}
>}
>
>However, if I put in change the Es to E-Flats:
>
>*

The code for E-Flat is just es.  It's freaking out with the extra e.

Cheers,
Bryan...


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percussion notation issues

2004-12-22 Thread Bruce McIntyre
Hello all.

I've just finished reading through Norman Weinberg's _Guide to
Standardized Drumset Notation_ published by the Percussive Arts Society
(1998). I've put up a synopsis of some of the more important points at

http://home.iprimus.com.au/brucemcintyre/percussion-notation.png

Note the numbers on the toms.  If you need to describe music for 3 toms,
use toms 1, 2 and 3.  If you want 6 toms use toms 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6.
The pitch of each tom is governed by its height as in normal music--tom
9 is higher than tom 1; tom 10 lower. 

The notation conventions recommended by Mr Weinberg have been adopted by
Modern Drummer Magazine, the various PAS publications as well as publishers 
such as audiograffiti
(http://www.audiograffiti.com.au/doc/audiograffitidrumnotation.pdf)
berklee and others.

Lilypond's drum notation is missing a few features to implement this 
scheme:

1.  Rimshot notation (where a \ overlays the notehead)

2.  Crosstick notation (circle surrounding notehead).

3.  The "ghost" note, where the notehead is in parentheses. 

This can be implemented by molecule call backs, but looks kludgy
at the moment.

4.  Lilypond's naming conventions don't support enough instruments:

10 toms are needed (I personally don't own that many!)
2 hihats
2 rides
3 crashes

5.  Some symbol shapes are wrong:

The triangle should be equalateral with the base parallel with
the staff lines. Here noteheads-d1do and noteheads-d2do would
suffice.

The symbol for a minim or semibreve cymbal should not be an open
'x' but an open diamond, somewhat like that used for harmonics.

6.  Lilypond lacks the mallet symbols as well as the bell/edge
center/edge symbols.

Personally I find Norman's Bell and Edge symbols ugly. The
latter especially is frustrating as it projects out to the right
of the note colum. 

Rod Morgenstein in his _Drum Set Warm-Ups_ follows this scheme,
but uses cross with circle surrounding for a cymbal bell
indication. Often drummers will alternate between ride cymbal
bell and normal strokes every other quaver or semiquaver.
Morgenstien's scheme is much less cluttered-looking than
Weinberg's when this is notated.

I hope this email provides some ideas for future improvements to our beloved
Lilypond.

Cheers,
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Missing cygX11-6.dll

2004-12-22 Thread Axel Niedenhoff
Hello, Lilypond support!
Running Lilypond on test.ly on Windows XP gives an error message saying 
that cygX11-6.dll cannot be found. I guess I need to install an 
additional Cygwin package. But which one? (I swear I followed the 
installation instructions, though! ;-)

Kind regards,  Axel Niedenhoff <><
This is TeXk, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5) (format=latex 2004.12.22)  22 DEC 
2004 17:37
 %&-line parsing enabled.
**\nonstopmode \input test.tex
(./test.tex (/usr/share/lilypLayout output to `test.preview.tex'...

Converting to `test.dvi'...
Error invoking `latex \\nonstopmode \\input test.tex > /dev/null 2>&1 '. Return 
value 256
Converting to `test.ps'...
Converting to `test.pdf'...Error invoking `ps2pdf  -sPAPERSIZE="a4" test.ps > 
/dev/null 2>&1 '. Return value 32768
Converting to `test.preview.dvi'...
Error invoking `latex \\nonstopmode \\input test.preview.tex > /dev/null 2>&1 
'. Return value 256
Converting to `test.preview.ps'...
Converting to `test.preview.pdf'...Error invoking `ps2pdf  -sPAPERSIZE="a4" 
test.preview.ps > /dev/null 2>&1 '. Return value 32768

No auxiliary output files.

(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/inputenc.sty
Package: inputenc 2001/07/10 v0.99a Input encoding file 

(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/latin1.def
File: latin1.def 2001/07/10 v0.99a Input encoding file 
))
No file test.aux.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OML/cmm/m/it on input line 23.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 23.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for T1/cmr/m/n on input line 23.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 23.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OT1/cmr/m/n on input line 23.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 23.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OMS/cmsy/m/n on input line 23.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 23.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OMX/cmex/m/n on input line 23.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 23.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for U/cmr/m/n on input line 23.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 23.
! Font T1/cmr/m/n/10=ecrm1000 at 10.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not fou
nd.
 
   relax 
l.49 }
  %
I wasn't able to read the size data for this font,
so I will ignore the font specification.
[Wizards can fix TFM files using TFtoPL/PLtoTF.]
You might try inserting a different font spec;
e.g., type `I\font='.

[1

] ) 
Here is how much of TeX's memory you used:
 301 strings out of 10849
 3666 string characters out of 1196041
 47477 words of memory out of 1003109
 3304 multiletter control sequences out of 1+5
 4942 words of font info for 17 fonts, out of 50 for 1000
 14 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000
 24i,5n,17p,247b,151s stack positions out of 300i,100n,500p,5b,4000s

Output written on test.dvi (1 page, 1748 bytes).
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Re: Building Lily

2004-12-22 Thread Luis G.
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi!

Thank you very much for your reply!

I finally moved the file "buildscripts/out/lilypond-profile" to a
location the script advice to do, and now I can do "lilypond" as a
regular user! (too bad I moved it instead of just copying: now I don't
now where it went, hehe).

Luis.

El mi=E9, 22-12-2004 a las 01:09, dax2 escribi=F3:
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:40:46 -0500
> Luis wrote:
>=20
> > Please excuse me... now I have a strange problem: If I run lilypond a=
s
> > root, it works... but if I do it as a regular user, I get this:
> > -
> > GNU LilyPond 2.4.2
> > Processing `prueba.ly'
> > Analizando...
> > Interpreting music... error: can't find `feta20.afm'
> > Music font has not been installed properly.  Aborting
> > -
>=20
> This is the font environment setting question again.
>=20
> May be caused by a shell-environment which is not properly
> initialized. You must read all the shell-login scripts (and
> understand and debug them :-(!))
>=20
> or=20
>=20
>keep running as root
>=20
> or, better, use
>=20
>buildscripts/out/lilypond-profile
>=20
> which should be manually added or sourced from your /etc/profile
> or /etc/bashprofile (what name is used by bash?) Some setups use
>=20
>. /etc/lilypond/lilypond-profile
>=20
> but names are distribution specific, so it could be
>=20
>. /etc/profiles.d/lilypond
>=20
>=20
> (I avoid these problems by having a /.lilypond script at hand at
> every time which I source manually :)
>=20
>=20
> SOURCE: source a script means to run the script by using the
> dot-command (or "source"-command in bash)
>=20
>=20
> regards/Donald



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Re: Building Lily

2004-12-22 Thread dax2


   Great that the normal user could use Lilypond!


On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:05:28 -0500
Luis wrote:

> (too bad I moved it instead of just copying: now I don't
> now where it went, hehe).

Hey that's not so hard, you can find the script again e.g.

   find /etc -name 'lilypond*'

or on most Linux (not SuSE-default setup, though):

   locate 'lilypond-profile'


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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 25, Issue 49

2004-12-22 Thread Graham Percival
On 22-Dec-04, at 7:56 AM, Bryan Stanbridge wrote:
On 12/22/2004, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Michael T. Garrison Stuber"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
{ r2. r r r4 r c g,2 e,4 e,4 f, g,~g, a, bes,~bes, c2 d2. ees
r r r r
The code for E-Flat is just es.  It's freaking out with the extra e.
The correct Dutch spelling for E-flat is es (and A-flat is as), but
LilyPond accepts ees and aes for silly foreigners like me who like
nice simple rules.  (ie add -es for flat)  :)
Cheers
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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 25, Issue 49

2004-12-22 Thread Paul Scott
Bryan Stanbridge wrote:
On 12/22/2004, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Michael T. Garrison Stuber"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 

I'm hitting a strange issue with Lilypond 2.4.2. The following works just
fine:
frag = {
\key bes \major
\time 3/4
{ r2. r r r4 r c g,2 e,4 e,4 f, g,~g, a, bes,~bes, c2 d2. ees
r r r r
}
}

However, if I put in change the Es to E-Flats:

*
   

The code for E-Flat is just es.  It's freaking out with the extra e.
 

This is from the 2.4.2 manual:
... Dutch, |aes| is contracted to |as|, but both forms are accepted. 
Similarly, both |es| and |ees| are accepted

Paul Scott

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Re: Missing cygX11-6.dll

2004-12-22 Thread Bertalan Fodor
Try running setup.exe again.
Bert
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Re: percussion notation issues

2004-12-22 Thread Rick Sutphin
Bruce,

Thanks for the post. I have started working on a define file (see below)
that could be included to bring Lilypond's drumset notation more inline
with PAS standards. The file does everything I need at the moment (I am
a lousy drummer), but I may extend it in the future. 

Rick

On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 01:50 +1100, Bruce McIntyre wrote:
> Hello all.
> 
> I've just finished reading through Norman Weinberg's _Guide to
> Standardized Drumset Notation_ published by the Percussive Arts Society
> (1998). I've put up a synopsis of some of the more important points at
> 
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/brucemcintyre/percussion-notation.png
> 
> Note the numbers on the toms.  If you need to describe music for 3 toms,
> use toms 1, 2 and 3.  If you want 6 toms use toms 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6.
> The pitch of each tom is governed by its height as in normal music--tom
> 9 is higher than tom 1; tom 10 lower. 
> 
> The notation conventions recommended by Mr Weinberg have been adopted by
> Modern Drummer Magazine, the various PAS publications as well as publishers 
> such as audiograffiti
> (http://www.audiograffiti.com.au/doc/audiograffitidrumnotation.pdf)
> berklee and others.
> 
> Lilypond's drum notation is missing a few features to implement this 
> scheme:
> 
> 1.  Rimshot notation (where a \ overlays the notehead)
> 
> 2.  Crosstick notation (circle surrounding notehead).
> 
> 3.  The "ghost" note, where the notehead is in parentheses. 
> 
>   This can be implemented by molecule call backs, but looks kludgy
>   at the moment.
> 
> 4.  Lilypond's naming conventions don't support enough instruments:
> 
>   10 toms are needed (I personally don't own that many!)
>   2 hihats
>   2 rides
>   3 crashes
> 
> 5.  Some symbol shapes are wrong:
>   
>   The triangle should be equalateral with the base parallel with
>   the staff lines. Here noteheads-d1do and noteheads-d2do would
>   suffice.
> 
>   The symbol for a minim or semibreve cymbal should not be an open
>   'x' but an open diamond, somewhat like that used for harmonics.
> 
> 6.  Lilypond lacks the mallet symbols as well as the bell/edge
> center/edge symbols.
> 
>   Personally I find Norman's Bell and Edge symbols ugly. The
>   latter especially is frustrating as it projects out to the right
>   of the note colum. 
> 
>   Rod Morgenstein in his _Drum Set Warm-Ups_ follows this scheme,
>   but uses cross with circle surrounding for a cymbal bell
>   indication. Often drummers will alternate between ride cymbal
>   bell and normal strokes every other quaver or semiquaver.
>   Morgenstien's scheme is much less cluttered-looking than
>   Weinberg's when this is notated.
> 
> I hope this email provides some ideas for future improvements to our beloved
> Lilypond.
> 
> Cheers,
> Bruce.
> 
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Re: Combo Template for Lilypond 2.4

2004-12-22 Thread Graham Percival
On 20-Dec-04, at 4:53 PM, Rick Sutphin wrote:
I am attempting to update and improve the combo template for Lilypond
2.4.
You're talking about the Jazz Combo template in section 3.7?  Great!
I would like to do the following:
1. update syntax to 2.4
2. breakup template into separate files for each instrument with
score/header file to tie them all together.
Assuming you're talking about the manual page,
These two look good.  When you make the score file to tie them
together, it would be nice if you tried to follow the format that the
other templates used -- that makes it clearer for new users who want
to look at these templates as examples for their own work.  (rather
than using the templates exactly)
3. use make and a makefile to automate creation of scores and part
extraction
4. create a script that would create a directory with the needed files
for combos with various instrumentation
I think these are a bit too complicated to be included in that part
of the manual.  What if you just had separate files for creating the
various instrument parts?  Possibly using \tag ?
Has anyone done something like this already? Is this worth doing?
It would be great!  I'm not too familiar with Jazz instruments, so I
skipped over this section when I was last editing the manual.
Cheers,
- Graham Percival, LilyPond Documentation Editor

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Re: percussion notation issues

2004-12-22 Thread Graham Percival
I don't know anything about percussion notation, but this might be of 
interest
to lilypond-devel as well.
- Graham

On 22-Dec-04, at 6:50 AM, Bruce McIntyre wrote:
Hello all.
I've just finished reading through Norman Weinberg's _Guide to
Standardized Drumset Notation_ published by the Percussive Arts Society
(1998). I've put up a synopsis of some of the more important points at
http://home.iprimus.com.au/brucemcintyre/percussion-notation.png
Note the numbers on the toms.  If you need to describe music for 3 
toms,
use toms 1, 2 and 3.  If you want 6 toms use toms 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6.
The pitch of each tom is governed by its height as in normal music--tom
9 is higher than tom 1; tom 10 lower.

The notation conventions recommended by Mr Weinberg have been adopted 
by
Modern Drummer Magazine, the various PAS publications as well as 
publishers
such as audiograffiti
(http://www.audiograffiti.com.au/doc/audiograffitidrumnotation.pdf)
berklee and others.

Lilypond's drum notation is missing a few features to implement this
scheme:
1.  Rimshot notation (where a \ overlays the notehead)
2.  Crosstick notation (circle surrounding notehead).
3.  The "ghost" note, where the notehead is in parentheses.
This can be implemented by molecule call backs, but looks kludgy
at the moment.
4.  Lilypond's naming conventions don't support enough instruments:
10 toms are needed (I personally don't own that many!)
2 hihats
2 rides
3 crashes
5.  Some symbol shapes are wrong:

The triangle should be equalateral with the base parallel with
the staff lines. Here noteheads-d1do and noteheads-d2do would
suffice.
The symbol for a minim or semibreve cymbal should not be an open
'x' but an open diamond, somewhat like that used for harmonics.
6.  Lilypond lacks the mallet symbols as well as the bell/edge
center/edge symbols.
Personally I find Norman's Bell and Edge symbols ugly. The
latter especially is frustrating as it projects out to the right
of the note colum.
Rod Morgenstein in his _Drum Set Warm-Ups_ follows this scheme,
but uses cross with circle surrounding for a cymbal bell
indication. Often drummers will alternate between ride cymbal
bell and normal strokes every other quaver or semiquaver.
Morgenstien's scheme is much less cluttered-looking than
Weinberg's when this is notated.
I hope this email provides some ideas for future improvements to our 
beloved
Lilypond.

Cheers,
Bruce.
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Re: Combo Template for Lilypond 2.4

2004-12-22 Thread Rick Sutphin
Christ,

That is a good idea. Would it be possible to incorporate the shape the
chord is based on as part of the name?
On Wed, 2004-12-22 at 10:49 +0100, Christ van Willegen wrote:
> Hi Rick, list,
> 
> > I would also like to create an include file (see below) with guitar
> > chord diagrams. Does anyone have any suggestion for a naming standard
> > for all of the different forms of the same chord?
> 
> I applaud this!
> 
> I would suggest dmaj_II for plaring a major D chord in the 2nd
> position (a 'shifted' C major chord).
> 
> Christ van Willegen



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Re: Combo Template for Lilypond 2.4

2004-12-22 Thread Rick Sutphin
> > 3. use make and a makefile to automate creation of scores and part
> > extraction
> > 4. create a script that would create a directory with the needed files
> > for combos with various instrumentation
> 
> I think these are a bit too complicated to be included in that part
> of the manual.  What if you just had separate files for creating the
> various instrument parts?  Possibly using \tag ?
I will have to take a look at the other templates. Also, I am not
familiar with \tag.
> 
> > Has anyone done something like this already? Is this worth doing?
> 
> It would be great!  I'm not too familiar with Jazz instruments, so I
> skipped over this section when I was last editing the manual.
The idea could be extended to other type of ensembles. I haven't started
on it yet, but what I had in mind is a set of skeleton files for each
instrument, and a score definition for each instrument. The script would
allow the user to pick the instruments for a piece, then create a
directory structure, copy to the directory the appropriate instrument
files, and create a score file with the proper includes and staff
definitions. To notate a piece, you would only have to enter notes for
each instrument in the appropriate file. At least this is the idea.
> 
> Cheers,
> - Graham Percival, LilyPond Documentation Editor
> 



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Recent improvements of the Lilypond mailing list

2004-12-22 Thread François Pinard
Hello, everybody.  First of all, my best wishes to everybody.

I just want to share my great pleasure, observing recently that spam has
been almost eradicated from the Lilypond mailing list (am I dreaming?).
It's a breeze of fresh air for me.  My thanks to all people involved in
the process of this improvement.


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Re: Invert note head but keeping stem directions

2004-12-22 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Thursday 23 December 2004 02.03, Jefferson dos Santos Felix wrote:
> Erik,
>
> Is there an alternative solution, maybe using hidden notes? I tryed
> everything I know, but I can't put the dotted note on right. I know
> it's a bug, but lilypond always provide alternative solutions to its
> bugs. I don't want to put a tie instead this dot!
>
> By the way, thanks!

The following [extremely ugly and bad] hack seems to give the expected 
output.. You could probably do something better by just tweaking the x offset 
directly (which requires some digging in the lilypond internals).

<<
   { b8[ s16 c'16] d'4 b8  c'8  d'4 b2 b2  }
   \\
   { \dotsUp <>\dotsNeutral b2 b8. a16 g4 b8 a g4 }
>>

Erik


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