Re: what is the proper way to handle placing text?

2004-04-05 Thread Mats Bengtsson
You have already sent some emails related to this topic and we have
tried to point out some solutions to some problems.
I'm not sure how far you have got now and exactly what problems you
are facing at the moment.
If you again send an example file (preferably a complete example
file, though as short as possible) and point out what problems you
see with your current attempt. Also, don't forget to tell us what
LilyPond version you are using for the moment. Of course, the
recommended version now is the recently released version 2.2.
I don't really see why you would want to attach a 'Coda' or 'DS al Coda'
to a multimeasure rest. Logically, it should always belong to a bar
line, right?
/Mats

chip wrote:
Okay, so I've been working with this program for a few months now, the 
one area I am still struggling with is in placing text in the correct 
spot. When I can attach the \markup to a note, no problem. But I have 
come across many times where I have to attach text to a multimeasure 
rest, followed by a double-bar line, and another multimeasure rest. The 
text in this case is usually DS (or DC) Al Coda. Then that same bit 
would be followed by the coda which starts with a multimeasure rest. So 
then I have to attach the Coda sign to a mm rest.
For some doggone reason I just have the hardest time getting that bit of 
text placed properly. I have spent literally hours messing with just one 
bit of text, while the entire piece takes about a half hour to type in.
I would also like to seperate the end of the 'regular' song and the 
beginning of the coda with some empty staff or start the coda on a new 
staff. So far all I've been able to do is use a skip bar between the two 
sections.

Could someone please clear me up on just what is the best practices in 
handling this type of text placement?
BTW, I am using v2.0.3 on FreeBSD.

Thanks,
Chip


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Re: Font changing

2004-04-05 Thread Mats Bengtsson
The latexpackages field is a bit primitive, since you cannot
attach options to a specific package. Fortunately, for [T1]{fontenc},
there's a workaround, namely to use
  latexpackages = "t1enc"
which gives the same result and doesn't require any option.
Another alternative is to put but the \usepackage and the
command definition in a separate .tex file and specify its name
using latexheaders.
I'm not sure how you plan to use the \changefont command. If you want
to use it within lyrics, for example, you would have to add it for
every single syllable. Apart from being extremely tedious to type in,
it would ruin LilyPond's ability to calculate the size of each syllable.
A better solution, then, is described in
http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2004-02/msg00204.html
   /Mats

Thomas Scharkowski wrote:
Hi list,

I have found out that I can use latex commands for changing fonts by 
adding the following lines to the (temporary) *.latex file lilypond 
produces:

\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}

\newcommand{\changefont}[3]{\fontfamily{#1} \fontseries{#2} 
\fontshape{#3} \selectfont} 

Now I would like to add the appropriate commands to the \header block 
of my *.ly file, but I am not sure how to use "latexpackages" and 
"latexheaders".

For \usepackage the following seems to work:
latexpackages = "[T1]{fontenc}"
Thank you,
Thomas
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Re: Object get position & color

2004-04-05 Thread Mats Bengtsson


Yann Davin wrote:
Hello, 

i am a new user, and i have two questions :)
1. I would like to know if there is a way
to do a function like get-object (x y) returns
lilypond object at (x,y) position.
??? Why would you want to do that? What kind of coordinate system
do you have in mind? The absolute placement on the paper will typically
change as soon as you change anything in your score, so the only thing
that would make sense is the rhythmical position (what beat in what
measure).
2. and : Is it possible to output note with color ?
There's no support at the moment, but shouldn't be too hard to
obtain, since LilyPond uses TeX to process the output and there is
support for colors in (La)TeX.
/Mats

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Object get position & color

2004-04-05 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Hello, 
> 
> i am a new user, and i have two questions :)
> 1. I would like to know if there is a way
> to do a function like get-object (x y) returns
> lilypond object at (x,y) position.

Yes, but it would require some hefty Scheme coding.

> 2. and : Is it possible to output note with color ?

No, but adding it would be simple. Let me know when you want to help
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Re: Object get position & color

2004-04-05 Thread Yann Davin
 --- Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit
: > 
> 
> Yann Davin wrote:
> > Hello, 
> > 
> > i am a new user, and i have two questions :)
> > 1. I would like to know if there is a way
> > to do a function like get-object (x y) returns
> > lilypond object at (x,y) position.
> 
> ??? Why would you want to do that? What kind of
> coordinate system
> do you have in mind? The absolute placement on the
> paper will typically
> change as soon as you change anything in your score,
> so the only thing
> that would make sense is the rhythmical position
> (what beat in what
> measure).
>
Hello,
 
I am agree for printouts you don't need to have
absolute placement. But i would like to do a
micro-fontend like denemo for fun, and i need to find
object under the mouse position. So it can be great to
access to the absolute position of an object without
need to do ugly reverse calculus. 

I am looking with the denemo source...but if there is
a simple solution i heed :)

Thx






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Re: Font changing

2004-04-05 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
Thank you.

I want to use the \changefont command for titling.

latexheaders = "newcommand.tex" 

in the *.ly file does produce

\include{newcommand.tex} 

in the resulting *.latex file, right?
This does not work. I changed to \input{newcommand.tex} and this did 
the job. Could I get the same without editing the *.latex file?

Thanks again,
Thomas

> The latexpackages field is a bit primitive, since you cannot
> attach options to a specific package. Fortunately, for [T1]{fontenc},
> there's a workaround, namely to use
>latexpackages = "t1enc"
> which gives the same result and doesn't require any option.
> Another alternative is to put but the \usepackage and the
> command definition in a separate .tex file and specify its name
> using latexheaders.
> 
> I'm not sure how you plan to use the \changefont command. If you want
> to use it within lyrics, for example, you would have to add it for
> every single syllable. Apart from being extremely tedious to type in,
> it would ruin LilyPond's ability to calculate the size of each syllable.
> A better solution, then, is described in
> http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2004-02/msg00204.html
> 
> /Mats
> 
> Thomas Scharkowski wrote:
> > Hi list,
> > 
> > I have found out that I can use latex commands for changing fonts by 
> > adding the following lines to the (temporary) *.latex file lilypond 
> > produces:
> > 
> > \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
> > 
> > \newcommand{\changefont}[3]{\fontfamily{#1} \fontseries{#2} 
> > \fontshape{#3} \selectfont} 
> > 
> > Now I would like to add the appropriate commands to the \header block 
> > of my *.ly file, but I am not sure how to use "latexpackages" and 
> > "latexheaders".
> > 
> > For \usepackage the following seems to work:
> > latexpackages = "[T1]{fontenc}"
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > Thomas
> > 
> > cygwin
> > 2.1.31 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: Font changing

2004-04-05 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
Thank you.

I want to use the \changefont command for titling.

latexheaders = "newcommand.tex" 

in the *.ly file does produce

\include{newcommand.tex} 

in the resulting *.latex file, right?
This does not work. I changed to \input{newcommand.tex} and this did 
the job. Could I get the same without editing the *.latex file?

Thanks again,
Thomas

> The latexpackages field is a bit primitive, since you cannot
> attach options to a specific package. Fortunately, for [T1]{fontenc},
> there's a workaround, namely to use
>latexpackages = "t1enc"
> which gives the same result and doesn't require any option.
> Another alternative is to put but the \usepackage and the
> command definition in a separate .tex file and specify its name
> using latexheaders.
> 
> I'm not sure how you plan to use the \changefont command. If you want
> to use it within lyrics, for example, you would have to add it for
> every single syllable. Apart from being extremely tedious to type in,
> it would ruin LilyPond's ability to calculate the size of each syllable.
> A better solution, then, is described in
> http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2004-02/msg00204.html
> 
> /Mats
> 
> Thomas Scharkowski wrote:
> > Hi list,
> > 
> > I have found out that I can use latex commands for changing fonts by 
> > adding the following lines to the (temporary) *.latex file lilypond 
> > produces:
> > 
> > \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
> > 
> > \newcommand{\changefont}[3]{\fontfamily{#1} \fontseries{#2} 
> > \fontshape{#3} \selectfont} 
> > 
> > Now I would like to add the appropriate commands to the \header block 
> > of my *.ly file, but I am not sure how to use "latexpackages" and 
> > "latexheaders".
> > 
> > For \usepackage the following seems to work:
> > latexpackages = "[T1]{fontenc}"
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > Thomas
> > 
> > cygwin
> > 2.1.31 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: Object get position & color

2004-04-05 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I recommend to take a look at the point and click feature of xdvi:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.2/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Point-and-click.html
   /Mats

Yann Davin wrote:
 --- Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit
: > 

Yann Davin wrote:

Hello, 

i am a new user, and i have two questions :)
1. I would like to know if there is a way
to do a function like get-object (x y) returns
lilypond object at (x,y) position.
??? Why would you want to do that? What kind of
coordinate system
do you have in mind? The absolute placement on the
paper will typically
change as soon as you change anything in your score,
so the only thing
that would make sense is the rhythmical position
(what beat in what
measure).
Hello,
 
I am agree for printouts you don't need to have
absolute placement. But i would like to do a
micro-fontend like denemo for fun, and i need to find
object under the mouse position. So it can be great to
access to the absolute position of an object without
need to do ugly reverse calculus. 

I am looking with the denemo source...but if there is
a simple solution i heed :)
Thx

	

	
		
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Re: Font changing

2004-04-05 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Bug/limitation in lilypond reported below!

Thomas Scharkowski wrote:
Thank you.

I want to use the \changefont command for titling.

	latexheaders = "newcommand.tex" 

in the *.ly file does produce

	\include{newcommand.tex} 

in the resulting *.latex file, right?
Certainly! If you want to find out what lilypond does, just add the
flag -k and look in the generated lilypond.dir/*.latex file.
This does not work. I changed to \input{newcommand.tex} and this did 
the job. Could I get the same without editing the *.latex file?
Run lilypond with the flag -V to see the printouts from latex.
The problem here, is that lilypond generates the files and runs latex
in a temporary directory. This means that latex will not find your
header file if you put it in the same directory as the .ly files.
One solution is to put the file in a directory where latex normally
searches for files. It seems that almost nobody has used this feature,
it was several years since this problem was discussed on the list last
time.
Of course, it's a bug that latexheaders doesn't work when the files
are available in the working directory. I don't really know about the
best way to solve it, though.

   /Mats

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Relatively Modern Chant Notation

2004-04-05 Thread Jean Connelly

Hello,

I've been looking through the lyric documentation, but I can't seem to
find what I have in mind.

How can I stick several words or phrases under the same note?  I'm looking
to write unmetered chant.  I don't need much in the way of ancient
symbols, but it will look kind of silly if I have to have an 8th for every
syllable or some such (and that isn't going to make any sense for multiple
verses).

I'd be grateful for any help.

Thanks!
Jean




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