Repeats and ties (better)
Hi.
In my previous mail I was not clear enough. If you have
\repeat volta 2 {d1 c~} \alternative {{c d c}{c}}
there should be a slur sign before the c in the second alternative, not
starting from the c~, but starting from "nothing", after the repeat bar
between the alternatives. I think it should be automatic, but is there
a way to put a slur sign as wanted?
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Re: Repeats and ties (better)
The easiest is probably to add an invisible note that the tie can start
from:
\alternative{{...}{\makeInvisible c4/2 ~ \makeVisible c4/2 ...}
where the macros can be defined as
makeInvisible = {\property Voice.NoteHead \override #'transparent = ##t
\property Voice.Stem \override #'transparent = ##t }
makeVisible = { \property Voice.NoteHead \revert #'transparent
\property Voice.Stem \revert #'transparent }
The 4/2 duration is just a trick to avoid that the extra note destroys
the rhythm.
/Mats
Marco Caliari wrote:
Hi.
In my previous mail I was not clear enough. If you have
\repeat volta 2 {d1 c~} \alternative {{c d c}{c}}
there should be a slur sign before the c in the second alternative, not
starting from the c~, but starting from "nothing", after the repeat bar
between the alternatives. I think it should be automatic, but is there
a way to put a slur sign as wanted?
-
Marco
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Re: volta bracket placing
SB> the second volta bracket is higher than the first (i'm using lily SB> 1.6.6) I'm using Lilypond 1.6.6, and I have the same annoying problem... I tried manually adjusting the spacing, but I didn't manage. -- Best regards, Jérémiemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Repeats and ties (better)
Thanks. I will try it as soon as possible. However, it is a little
complicated. All the scores I have seen (marching bands scores, above all)
have that short tie. The same for slurs starting before the first
alternative and ending on the second. I think it should be
automatic. Will it be?
Marco
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> The easiest is probably to add an invisible note that the tie can start
> from:
>
> \alternative{{...}{\makeInvisible c4/2 ~ \makeVisible c4/2 ...}
> where the macros can be defined as
>
> makeInvisible = {\property Voice.NoteHead \override #'transparent = ##t
>\property Voice.Stem \override #'transparent = ##t }
> makeVisible = { \property Voice.NoteHead \revert #'transparent
> \property Voice.Stem \revert #'transparent }
>
> The 4/2 duration is just a trick to avoid that the extra note destroys
> the rhythm.
>
> /Mats
>
>
> Marco Caliari wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > In my previous mail I was not clear enough. If you have
> >
> > \repeat volta 2 {d1 c~} \alternative {{c d c}{c}}
> >
> > there should be a slur sign before the c in the second alternative, not
> > starting from the c~, but starting from "nothing", after the repeat bar
> > between the alternatives. I think it should be automatic, but is there
> > a way to put a slur sign as wanted?
> >
> > -
> > Marco
> >
> >
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Re: Repeats and ties (better)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Thanks. I will try it as soon as possible. However, it is a little > complicated. All the scores I have seen (marching bands scores, above all) > have that short tie. The same for slurs starting before the first > alternative and ending on the second. I think it should be > automatic. Will it be? It will, if we find a neat way to implement it. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cs.uu.nl/~hanwen ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to remove first score indentation?
> > I would rather keep it, but in lilypond-book the first line of
> > music is indented twice and all the other lines indented once.
> > Since I don't plan to put the instrument name before any of the
> > lines because it is obvious from context what the instrument is,
> > how can I get the music lines to have the same left margin and
> > indention as the text lines?
>
> Use the noquote option to get rid of the extra indentation:
> \begin[noquote]{lilypond} ... \end{lilypond}
>
> This question has popped up a number of times since Werner Lemberg
> improved the TeX code output from Lilypond. At least when using
> lilypond-book together with LaTeX documents, I have never seen any
> example where I didn't want the noquote option.
I made `quote' the default to imitate the previous behaviour of the
old TeX code in lilypond.
> How about changing lilypond-book and making noquote the default? Of
> course, it's always a problem to make incompatible changes, but
> that's more or less what we did at the time when the noquote option
> was introduced. Comments?
OK.
Werner
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Re: How to remove first score indentation?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > lilypond-book together with LaTeX documents, I have never seen any > > example where I didn't want the noquote option. > > I made `quote' the default to imitate the previous behaviour of the > old TeX code in lilypond. Something did change though; the LilyPond manuals are now filled with overfull hbox rules. It would be nice if the default behavior doesn't cause this -- preferably by setting sane margins and indents. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cs.uu.nl/~hanwen ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to remove first score indentation?
> "Han-Wen" == Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Han-Wen> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> I made `quote' the default to imitate the previous behaviour of the >> old TeX code in lilypond. Han-Wen> Something did change though; the LilyPond manuals are now Han-Wen> filled with overfull hbox rules. And the "quote" behavior indents at both the left *and* the right margins, which is not the old behavior, or any behavior I've seen anywhere else in either TeX or music publishing. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (801) 365-6574 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to remove first score indentation?
On Tuesday 18 March 2003 08:55 am, Laura Conrad wrote: > > "Han-Wen" == Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Han-Wen> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> I made `quote' the default to imitate the previous behaviour > >> of the old TeX code in lilypond. > > Han-Wen> Something did change though; the LilyPond manuals are > now Han-Wen> filled with overfull hbox rules. > > And the "quote" behavior indents at both the left *and* the right > margins, which is not the old behavior, or any behavior I've seen > anywhere else in either TeX or music publishing. See the HDM under "root", page 652. If you paste a musical example into text, you are going to center it if it doesn't fill the text width, and least if you have two columns you will. Maybe it's better just to explain what \quote/ noquote does and why and leave it at that. It certainly doesn't bother me now that I understand it. It's for quoting substantial blocks of text, as an alternative to quotation marks. Similar to quoting lyrics or poetry, although that wouldn't be justified. If it is a serious inconvenience in doing the docs, it's not worth it. DaveA -- Lies are the first casualty of peace. dra@ or http://www.openguitar.com ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to remove first score indentation?
> > I made `quote' the default to imitate the previous behaviour of > > the old TeX code in lilypond. > > Something did change though; the LilyPond manuals are now filled > with overfull hbox rules. This was not me! I haven't touched the TeX code in LilyPond for a long time, and then it worked fine. > It would be nice if the default behavior doesn't cause this -- > preferably by setting sane margins and indents. Just go on! I can't promise to find time in the near future to solve this issue -- I currently have to prepare releases for groff, my CJK package for LaTeX and some stuff for the next TeXLive CD. Werner ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
