[libreoffice-l10n] Definition of "Rotate case"

[Sveinn í Felli]

Hi,

In officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI.po there is:

#: 
GenericCommands.xcu#..GenericCommands.UserInterface.Commands..uno_ChangeCaseRotateCase.Label.value.text

msgid "Rotate case (Title Case, UPPERCASE, lowercase)"
msgstr ""

What does this actually do ?
Is there a definition somewhere ?

The surrounding options are understandable due to their 
capitalization, but here a comment might come handy.


Best regards,

Sveinn í Felli


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Definition of "Rotate case"

[Martin Srebotnjak]

Hi, it switches between those cases of letters (like toggle case). It goes
in cycles, so I guess that is why the "rotate" is used (after the last
option it moves to the first option).

Lp, m.

2011/4/11 Sveinn í Felli 

> Hi,
>
> In officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI.po there is:
>
> #:
> GenericCommands.xcu#..GenericCommands.UserInterface.Commands..uno_ChangeCaseRotateCase.Label.value.text
> msgid "Rotate case (Title Case, UPPERCASE, lowercase)"
> msgstr ""
>
> What does this actually do ?
> Is there a definition somewhere ?
>
> The surrounding options are understandable due to their capitalization, but
> here a comment might come handy.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sveinn í Felli
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Definition of "Rotate case"

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi,
On 11/04/2011 12:51, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:

Hi, it switches between those cases of letters (like toggle case). It goes
in cycles, so I guess that is why the "rotate" is used (after the last
option it moves to the first option).


Yes, I think toggle would be more adapted than rotate, at least, I 
understand it better in this case :)


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Definition of "Rotate case"

[Olav Dahlum]

On 11/04/11 12:44, Sophie Gautier wrote:
> Hi,
> On 11/04/2011 12:51, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
>> Hi, it switches between those cases of letters (like toggle case). It
>> goes
>> in cycles, so I guess that is why the "rotate" is used (after the last
>> option it moves to the first option).
> 
> Yes, I think toggle would be more adapted than rotate, at least, I
> understand it better in this case :)
> 
> Kind regards
> Sophie

Maybe even something like «Toggle between cases». However, that string would
be rather long «Bytt mellom bokstavstørrelser» in languages like Norwegian,
so maybe a more creative approach is needed.

-Olav

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Definition of "Rotate case"

[Martin Srebotnjak]

2011/4/11 Sophie Gautier 

>
> Yes, I think toggle would be more adapted than rotate, at least, I
> understand it better in this case :)
>
>
I think it was toggle and got changed into rotate. Because there is a toggle
case function that changes/inverts case - as a matter of fact, it would be
better to call it "iNVERT cASE" than "tOGGLE cASE". Then Rotate case could
go back to Toggle case.

Lp, m.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Definition of "Rotate case"

[Olivier Hallot]

I tend to use "cycle through cases" or similar.

Em 11-04-2011 08:13, Martin Srebotnjak escreveu:

2011/4/11 Sophie Gautier



Yes, I think toggle would be more adapted than rotate, at least, I
understand it better in this case :)



I think it was toggle and got changed into rotate. Because there is a toggle
case function that changes/inverts case - as a matter of fact, it would be
better to call it "iNVERT cASE" than "tOGGLE cASE". Then Rotate case could
go back to Toggle case.

Lp, m.



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 3.4 translation

[Catalin Florin RUSSEN]

> All supported languages were imported except Serbian, Slovenian  and
> Romanian, because they indicated that they do not want to use  our
> Pootle. I would happily add them of course, if they changed their  minds.

Except trying to have most of the Open Source and Free Software Romanian 
translations in one place, I do not understand why the Romanian team keeps 
LibreOffice translation on http://tradu.softwareliber.rom but it became 
unpractical now with the migration of all translations on this Pootle server. 
There are only few applications translated there and with Transifex, Launchpad 
and other collaborative translation solutions I doubt the success of this local 
oriented one.

Here I can make Pootle show me the translations in other languages that I know, 
which is very practical when you want to ensure that the sens of the translated 
phrase is the good one. On Narro there's only the Romanian language available!

Personally I'd like to see LibreOffice Romanian translation migrated here on 
Pootle, like everyone else.

Cheers,
Florin


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 3.4 translation

[Rimas Kudelis]

Hi Catalin,

2011.04.11 17:07, Catalin Florin RUSSEN rašė:

All supported languages were imported except Serbian, Slovenian  and
Romanian, because they indicated that they do not want to use  our
Pootle. I would happily add them of course, if they changed their  minds.

Except trying to have most of the Open Source and Free Software Romanian
translations in one place, I do not understand why the Romanian team keeps
LibreOffice translation on http://tradu.softwareliber.rom but it became
unpractical now with the migration of all translations on this Pootle server.
There are only few applications translated there and with Transifex, Launchpad
and other collaborative translation solutions I doubt the success of this local
oriented one.

Here I can make Pootle show me the translations in other languages that I know,
which is very practical when you want to ensure that the sens of the translated
phrase is the good one. On Narro there's only the Romanian language available!

Personally I'd like to see LibreOffice Romanian translation migrated here on
Pootle, like everyone else.


you should negotiate this with your team leader. It would be even less 
practical if half of your team worked on LibreOffice in Narro, and the 
other half in Pootle. This has to be a team's coordinated decision.


Regards,
Rimas

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle migration

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Christian Lohmaier
 wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Rimas Kudelis  wrote:
>> 2011.04.07 20:38, Christian Lohmaier rašė:
> [seperate worker for export/zip]
> There don't seem to be any drawbacks, so that's the way to go - this
> way regular translation will not be blocked/affected by the exporting
> blocking all available worker slots or all RAM or all CPU

Unfortunately, real-usage also lets the regular workers grow insanely
(from standard of around 80/90MB to700MB) - thus I had to reduce the
lifetime of the regular worker again as well.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 3.4 translation

[Catalin Florin RUSSEN]

> >> All  supported languages were imported except Serbian, Slovenian   and
> >> Romanian, because they indicated that they do not want to  use  our
> >> Pootle. I would happily add them of course, if they  changed their  minds.
> > Except trying to have most of the Open Source  and Free Software Romanian
> > translations in one place, I do not  understand why the Romanian team keeps
> > LibreOffice translation on http://tradu.softwareliber.rom but it became
> > unpractical now with  the migration of all translations on this Pootle 
>server.
> > There are only  few applications translated there and with Transifex, 
>Launchpad
> > and  other collaborative translation solutions I doubt the success of this  
>local
> > oriented one.
> > 
> > Here I can make Pootle show me the  translations in other languages that I 
>know,
> > which is very practical  when you want to ensure that the sens of the 
>translated
> > phrase is the  good one. On Narro there's only the Romanian language 
>available!
> > 
> > Personally I'd like to see LibreOffice Romanian translation migrated  here 
on
> > Pootle, like everyone else.
> 
> you should negotiate this  with your team leader. It would be even less 
>practical if half of your team  worked on LibreOffice in Narro, and the other 
>half in Pootle. This has to be a  team's coordinated decision.


Just what I said, either we do everything here on Pootle (recommended), or we 
move all on Narro.
Currently there are some parts on Narro and some parts on Pootle.

But I'm not the coordinator, otherwise the decision would be already taken.

Cheers,
Florin


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Definition of "Rotate case"

[Sveinn í Felli]

skrifaði Olivier Hallot:

I tend to use "cycle through cases" or similar.

Em 11-04-2011 08:13, Martin Srebotnjak escreveu:

2011/4/11 Sophie Gautier



Yes, I think toggle would be more adapted than rotate, at
least, I
understand it better in this case :)



I think it was toggle and got changed into rotate. Because
there is a toggle
case function that changes/inverts case - as a matter of
fact, it would be
better to call it "iNVERT cASE" than "tOGGLE cASE". Then
Rotate case could
go back to Toggle case.

Lp, m.


But "tOGGLE cASE" is there too as an option, you mean this 
is a transitional state to have both "Rotate case (Title 
Case, UPPERCASE, lowercase)" and "tOGGLE cASE" 


Hmmm, something smells fishy...

Sveinn


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 3.4 translation

[Rhoslyn Prys]

On 07/04/2011 19:08, Andras Timar wrote:

Hi,

As Sophie and Rimas wrote earlier, we can start to localize LibreOffice
3.4 in Pootle or by other means.

Please read this wiki page:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.4
I don't want to repeat what is already there. As we don't have too much
time, please start with the UI.

Pootle is bootstrapped with translations. For languages that had
LibreOffice 3.3.x - Merged UI/Help, we migrated that. For other
languages we imported what we found in the current LibreOffice source code.

All supported languages were imported except Serbian, Slovenian and
Romanian, because they indicated that they do not want to use our
Pootle. I would happily add them of course, if they changed their minds.

Also, Luxembourgish was added to Pootle but it has not been added to
LibreOffice source code yet. 12.6% is translated at the moment. AFAIK in
OOo the limit was 80%, maybe we can be more liberal. :) Keep up the good
work.

BUGS!
I found gsicheck bugs in many localizations.
See: http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/3.4-alpha-l10nbugs/
.err files contain the lines with errors and the en-US conterparts
.log files contain the error message
Please locate and fix these bugs!
Affected locales: bg, bn, bs, cy, da, dgo, el, en-ZA, eo, ga, mk, ne,
nn, om, pt, sa-IN, sd, sv, tg, uz, vi

Also I found many occurences of @openoffice.org mailing lists or
openoffice.org web sites where the en-US source string contained
LibreOffice references. Please look for these, and correct them. Pootle
has checks for changed URLs and changed mail addresses.

Best regards,
Andras

I would like to work on the Welsh translation of LibreOffice 3.4 
(LibreOffice 3.4.x-UI) 
 but I 
cannot edit and save nor upload po files. Could you check this out for 
me please?


Thanks
Rhoslyn Prys

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 3.4 translation

[Andras Timar]

2011.04.11. 21:22 keltezéssel, Rhoslyn Prys írta:
> I would like to work on the Welsh translation of LibreOffice 3.4
> (LibreOffice 3.4.x-UI)
>  but I
> cannot edit and save nor upload po files. Could you check this out for
> me please?

Hi Rhoslyn,

I restored your rights.

Best regards,
Andras

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[libreoffice-l10n] QA process

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,

We are trying to organize the QA process, Yifan is doing a great job 
here and is writing documentation, soon available on the wiki.
In order to coordinate the process and make sure everybody is in the 
loop, please subscribe to the projects list 
(subscribe+proje...@libreoffice.org) if not done yet and add your name 
on the table here if you're a QA contact for you team

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language#Contact_Table

Thanks in advance
Kind regards
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[libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 3.4 files updated in Pootle

[Andras Timar]

Hi,

Yesterday LibreOffice 3.4 beta 1 was tagged. According to Release Plan
this also means String Freeze.

Last night I updated LibreOffice 3.4 UI files in Pootle in all
languages. LibreOffice 3.4 help files are now being updated in the
background.

The next beta will be tagged on next Monday, and I will take all
translations from Pootle on Sunday, April 17, and commit them to git.

For teams who don't use our Pootle:
Latest SDF file and POT files extracted from the source can always be
found here:
http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/latest-POT/
http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/latest-SDF/

Best regards,
Andras

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