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[Koha] Punctuation in personal names

2023-09-04 Thread Bruns, Anke

Hi everybody,

a library pointed me to a problem with the display of abbreviated personal
first names in 100 and 700 (and possibly others). The final dot in these
fields is chopped in the results' list and detailed record view (OPAC and
Staff Interface).

Thus, a name like Kuthy, A. reads Kuthy, A and Riemann, K.-U. becomes
Riemann, K.-U and Lau, Y.Y. appears as Lau, Y.Y 

(I omitted the full stop in the previous sentence to avoid confusion.)

Whereas it probably makes sense to chop the final punctuation in some cases
in the display of personal names fields, the dot should be displayed for
abbreviated first names.

Have you a hint for me how best to make these dots visible in the results'
list and record view?

Should we add a CSS directive in OPACUserCSS and StaffUserCSS?
Or better add/change the passages for the relevant fields in the xsl files?
Or something else?

Thanks in advance!

Regards,
Anke



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Re: [Koha] Punctuation in personal names

2023-09-04 Thread Himanshu Aggarwal

I do the editing manually with every data imported using z39.50

On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 4:25 PM Bruns, Anke  wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> a library pointed me to a problem with the display of abbreviated personal
> first names in 100 and 700 (and possibly others). The final dot in these
> fields is chopped in the results' list and detailed record view (OPAC and
> Staff Interface).
>
> Thus, a name like Kuthy, A. reads Kuthy, A and Riemann, K.-U. becomes
> Riemann, K.-U and Lau, Y.Y. appears as Lau, Y.Y
>
> (I omitted the full stop in the previous sentence to avoid confusion.)
>
> Whereas it probably makes sense to chop the final punctuation in some cases
> in the display of personal names fields, the dot should be displayed for
> abbreviated first names.
>
> Have you a hint for me how best to make these dots visible in the results'
> list and record view?
>
> Should we add a CSS directive in OPACUserCSS and StaffUserCSS?
> Or better add/change the passages for the relevant fields in the xsl files?
> Or something else?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Regards,
> Anke
>
>
>
> --
> Anke Bruns M.A. (LIS)
> Arbeitsgruppe "Anwendungs- und Informationssysteme"
> E-Mail: anke.br...@gwdg.de
> -
> Gesellschaft für wissenschaftliche Datenverarbeitung mbH Göttingen (GWDG)
> Burckhardtweg 4, 37077 Göttingen, URL: https://gwdg.de
>
> Support: Tel.: +49 551 39-3, URL: https://gwdg.de/support
> Sekretariat: Tel.: +49 551 39-30001, E-Mail: g...@gwdg.de
>
> Geschäftsführer: Prof. Dr. Ramin Yahyapour
> Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Prof. Dr. Christian Griesinger
> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Göttingen
> Registergericht: Göttingen, Handelsregister-Nr. B 598
> -
> Zertifiziert nach ISO 9001 und ISO 27001
> -
>
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Re: [Koha] Punctuation in personal names

2023-09-04 Thread Bruns, Anke

Hi Himanshu,

thanks for the quick reply.

However, this wouldn't solve the specific problem we encountered, as the dot is 
already present in the MARC data and is only suppressed in the display.

Best regards,

Anke


> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Himanshu Aggarwal 
> Gesendet: Montag, 4. September 2023 13:16
> An: Bruns, Anke 
> Cc: koha 
> Betreff: Re: [Koha] Punctuation in personal names
> 
> I do the editing manually with every data imported using z39.50
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 4:25 PM Bruns, Anke   > wrote:
> 
> 
>   Hi everybody,
> 
>   a library pointed me to a problem with the display of abbreviated
> personal
>   first names in 100 and 700 (and possibly others). The final dot in
> these
>   fields is chopped in the results' list and detailed record view (OPAC
> and
>   Staff Interface).
> 
>   Thus, a name like Kuthy, A. reads Kuthy, A and Riemann, K.-U.
> becomes
>   Riemann, K.-U and Lau, Y.Y. appears as Lau, Y.Y
> 
>   (I omitted the full stop in the previous sentence to avoid confusion.)
> 
>   Whereas it probably makes sense to chop the final punctuation in
> some cases
>   in the display of personal names fields, the dot should be displayed
> for
>   abbreviated first names.
> 
>   Have you a hint for me how best to make these dots visible in the
> results'
>   list and record view?
> 
>   Should we add a CSS directive in OPACUserCSS and StaffUserCSS?
>   Or better add/change the passages for the relevant fields in the xsl
> files?
>   Or something else?
> 
>   Thanks in advance!
> 
>   Regards,
>   Anke
> 
> 
> 
>   --
>   Anke Bruns M.A. (LIS)
>   Arbeitsgruppe "Anwendungs- und Informationssysteme"
>   E-Mail: anke.br...@gwdg.de 
>   -
>   Gesellschaft für wissenschaftliche Datenverarbeitung mbH Göttingen
> (GWDG)
>   Burckhardtweg 4, 37077 Göttingen, URL: https://gwdg.de
> 
>   Support: Tel.: +49 551 39-3, URL: https://gwdg.de/support
>   Sekretariat: Tel.: +49 551 39-30001, E-Mail: g...@gwdg.de
> 
> 
>   Geschäftsführer: Prof. Dr. Ramin Yahyapour
>   Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Prof. Dr. Christian Griesinger
>   Sitz der Gesellschaft: Göttingen
>   Registergericht: Göttingen, Handelsregister-Nr. B 598
>   -
>   Zertifiziert nach ISO 9001 und ISO 27001
>   -
> 
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> 
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> 
> Confucius Institute Scholar 13-14,
> 
> R.D. National College,
> 
> Bandra (W.)

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Re: [Koha] Punctuation in personal names

2023-09-04 Thread Alejo Janin

Hi,

You should remove the  for those
subfields from the xslt templates.

El lun, 4 sept 2023 a la(s) 09:22, Bruns, Anke (anke.br...@gwdg.de)
escribió:

> Hi Himanshu,
>
> thanks for the quick reply.
>
> However, this wouldn't solve the specific problem we encountered, as the
> dot is already present in the MARC data and is only suppressed in the
> display.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Anke
>
>
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: Himanshu Aggarwal 
> > Gesendet: Montag, 4. September 2023 13:16
> > An: Bruns, Anke 
> > Cc: koha 
> > Betreff: Re: [Koha] Punctuation in personal names
> >
> > I do the editing manually with every data imported using z39.50
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 4:25 PM Bruns, Anke  >  > wrote:
> >
> >
> >   Hi everybody,
> >
> >   a library pointed me to a problem with the display of abbreviated
> > personal
> >   first names in 100 and 700 (and possibly others). The final dot in
> > these
> >   fields is chopped in the results' list and detailed record view
> (OPAC
> > and
> >   Staff Interface).
> >
> >   Thus, a name like Kuthy, A. reads Kuthy, A and Riemann, K.-U.
> > becomes
> >   Riemann, K.-U and Lau, Y.Y. appears as Lau, Y.Y
> >
> >   (I omitted the full stop in the previous sentence to avoid
> confusion.)
> >
> >   Whereas it probably makes sense to chop the final punctuation in
> > some cases
> >   in the display of personal names fields, the dot should be
> displayed
> > for
> >   abbreviated first names.
> >
> >   Have you a hint for me how best to make these dots visible in the
> > results'
> >   list and record view?
> >
> >   Should we add a CSS directive in OPACUserCSS and StaffUserCSS?
> >   Or better add/change the passages for the relevant fields in the
> xsl
> > files?
> >   Or something else?
> >
> >   Thanks in advance!
> >
> >   Regards,
> >   Anke
> >
> >
> >
> >   --
> >   Anke Bruns M.A. (LIS)
> >   Arbeitsgruppe "Anwendungs- und Informationssysteme"
> >   E-Mail: anke.br...@gwdg.de 
> >   -
> >   Gesellschaft für wissenschaftliche Datenverarbeitung mbH Göttingen
> > (GWDG)
> >   Burckhardtweg 4, 37077 Göttingen, URL: https://gwdg.de
> >
> >   Support: Tel.: +49 551 39-3, URL: https://gwdg.de/support
> >   Sekretariat: Tel.: +49 551 39-30001, E-Mail: g...@gwdg.de
> > 
> >
> >   Geschäftsführer: Prof. Dr. Ramin Yahyapour
> >   Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Prof. Dr. Christian Griesinger
> >   Sitz der Gesellschaft: Göttingen
> >   Registergericht: Göttingen, Handelsregister-Nr. B 598
> >   -
> >   Zertifiziert nach ISO 9001 und ISO 27001
> >   -
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Assistant Librarian,
> >
> > Confucius Institute Scholar 13-14,
> >
> > R.D. National College,
> >
> > Bandra (W.)
>
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Re: [Koha] Punctuation in personal names

2023-09-04 Thread Alejo Janin

Hi,

On-list: maybe it helps somebody else.

E.g.: in MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl you should remove after  these two tags:  and  (with its
closing tags). Lines 1631 and 1632 (Koha 23.05)

Regards,
Alejo

El lun, 4 sept 2023 a la(s) 10:34, Bruns, Anke (anke.br...@gwdg.de)
escribió:

> Off-list: Hi and thanks, Alejo Janin!
>
> I tried to remove the tag from the subfield, but unfortunately then the
> title information disappears completely. Perhaps I haven't found the
> correct place where to remove the tag. Or I removed the wrong closing tag -
> but I double-checked.
>
> Could you enlighten me as to which chopPunctuation-Tag is the correct one
> to remove?
>
> I tried
>
> Regards,
> Anke
>
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: Koha  Im Auftrag von Alejo Janin
> > Gesendet: Montag, 4. September 2023 14:32
> > Cc: koha 
> > Betreff: Re: [Koha] Punctuation in personal names
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > You should remove the  for
> > those
> > subfields from the xslt templates.
> >
> > El lun, 4 sept 2023 a la(s) 09:22, Bruns, Anke (anke.br...@gwdg.de)
> > escribió:
> >
> > > Hi Himanshu,
> > >
> > > thanks for the quick reply.
> > >
> > > However, this wouldn't solve the specific problem we encountered, as
> the
> > > dot is already present in the MARC data and is only suppressed in the
> > > display.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Anke
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > > Von: Himanshu Aggarwal 
> > > > Gesendet: Montag, 4. September 2023 13:16
> > > > An: Bruns, Anke 
> > > > Cc: koha 
> > > > Betreff: Re: [Koha] Punctuation in personal names
> > > >
> > > > I do the editing manually with every data imported using z39.50
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 4:25 PM Bruns, Anke  > > >  > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   Hi everybody,
> > > >
> > > >   a library pointed me to a problem with the display of
> abbreviated
> > > > personal
> > > >   first names in 100 and 700 (and possibly others). The final
> dot in
> > > > these
> > > >   fields is chopped in the results' list and detailed record view
> > > (OPAC
> > > > and
> > > >   Staff Interface).
> > > >
> > > >   Thus, a name like Kuthy, A. reads Kuthy, A and Riemann, K.-U.
> > > > becomes
> > > >   Riemann, K.-U and Lau, Y.Y. appears as Lau, Y.Y
> > > >
> > > >   (I omitted the full stop in the previous sentence to avoid
> > > confusion.)
> > > >
> > > >   Whereas it probably makes sense to chop the final punctuation
> in
> > > > some cases
> > > >   in the display of personal names fields, the dot should be
> > > displayed
> > > > for
> > > >   abbreviated first names.
> > > >
> > > >   Have you a hint for me how best to make these dots visible in
> the
> > > > results'
> > > >   list and record view?
> > > >
> > > >   Should we add a CSS directive in OPACUserCSS and StaffUserCSS?
> > > >   Or better add/change the passages for the relevant fields in
> the
> > > xsl
> > > > files?
> > > >   Or something else?
> > > >
> > > >   Thanks in advance!
> > > >
> > > >   Regards,
> > > >   Anke
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   --
> > > >   Anke Bruns M.A. (LIS)
> > > >   Arbeitsgruppe "Anwendungs- und Informationssysteme"
> > > >   E-Mail: anke.br...@gwdg.de 
> > > >   -
> > > >   Gesellschaft für wissenschaftliche Datenverarbeitung mbH
> Göttingen
> > > > (GWDG)
> > > >   Burckhardtweg 4, 37077 Göttingen, URL: https://gwdg.de
> > > >
> > > >   Support: Tel.: +49 551 39-3, URL: https://gwdg.de/support
> > > >   Sekretariat: Tel.: +49 551 39-30001, E-Mail: g...@gwdg.de
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > >   Geschäftsführer: Prof. Dr. Ramin Yahyapour
> > > >   Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Prof. Dr. Christian Griesinger
> > > >   Sitz der Gesellschaft: Göttingen
> > > >   Registergericht: Göttingen, Handelsregister-Nr. B 598
> > > >   -
> > > >   Zertifiziert nach ISO 9001 und ISO 27001
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