Re: [issues] Car or not? (Was, re; Skud's new article...)
hi folks. I hate to do this, but could you folks move the cars discussion to the grrltalk list? It's not really "on topic" for the issues list. Thanks :) - deb (also carless, and happy that way ;) -- Deb Richardson, Executive Editor Linuxcare, Inc. tel: 613.562.9723, fax: 613.562.9304 [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.linuxcare.com Linuxcare. Support for the Revolution. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [issues] Car or not? (Was, re; Skud's new article...)
#if Deb Richardson > I hate to do this, but could you folks move the cars discussion to the > grrltalk list? It's not really "on topic" for the issues list. Thanks > :) moved :) Rik -- 135. Displace the canon with attitude. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [issues] Re; Skud's new article on geek chicks
Mary Wood wrote: > > >If you have ideas for things women CAN do, though.. I'd love to > >know them. Other than 'be present and visible and competent', I'm > >fresh out > > Hmmm, take those too-many women who are perpetuating the > negative female stereotype and beat them to a pulp? > > ... or would that not be drastic enough? Too dramatic. :) Be subtly bitchy and exclusionary - the way they are to us. Tempt them into realising that it's NOT OK ANYMORE. Why don't we apply peer pressure to them, and the males who are also into 'equalism' apply peer pressure to the males who perpetuate the stereotypes, and between us we get somewhere? Note: I've cured stereotypical behaviour (The 'I can't possibly fix that!' problem) by calmly and quietly leading them into figuring out what's wrong with the thing that's broken, and leading them to figuring out a potential repair. Once they've repaired one thing, it gets easier to lead them to repairing the next one. Once they've repaired four or five things, they're into how /good/ it /feels/ to be competent! I hook them! Worse than drugs! Jenn V. -- "We're repairing the coolant loop of a nuclear fusion reactor. This is women's work!" Helix, Freefall. http://www.purrsia.com/freefall/ Jenn Vesperman[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.simegen.com/~jenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [issues] Car or not? (Was, re; Skud's new article...)
Mary Wood wrote: > > I got rid of my car for purely financial reasons and the > benefits turned out to be way more than that (freedom from > a huge material possession, patronizing the local businesses > instead of always traveling to shop/eat, fitness, the > psychological buzz of knowing I got from A to B under > my own power...). We still have our car. She sits in the garage, except for the weekly/fortnightly grocery shop (awkward taking the packages home by tram), going to the nearby shopping centre which doesn't have public transport from where *I* am to it, and (best of all) trips to the mountains/forest/bushland. It's useful enough to have it that we keep it, but it's used only where shanks' pony and public transport won't take us. Bit of a best-of-both-worlds situation. Jenn V. -- "We're repairing the coolant loop of a nuclear fusion reactor. This is women's work!" Helix, Freefall. http://www.purrsia.com/freefall/ Jenn Vesperman[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.simegen.com/~jenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
