Re: re： how to reply highlight message by REXX

[Rob Scott]

A skeleton example :

/* REXX */
lastrc=ISFCALLS("ON")
address SDSF  "ISFEXEC SR"
fixedfield = word(ISFCOLS,1)
say "Number of rows returned :" ISFROWS
do rowindex = 1 to ISFROWS
  say  "Now processing row :" value(fixedfield"."rowindex)
   do colindex = 1 to words(ISFCOLS)
 column = word(ISFCOLS,colindex)
 say column"."rowindex" has the value : "value(column"."rowindex)
   end
end
lastrc=ISFCALLS("OFF")
exit

Rob Scott
Rocket Software

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Hi Bob


  Using  " ISFEXEC SR" verb  is  a good idea.


   Could you see me a sample  REXX for " loop thru the returned 
logical rows to locate the prompt that you are searching for "?


Thanks a lot!


Jason Cai


  


  




how to reply highlight message by REXX

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You can use SDSF REXX to do this quite easily.

The  " ISFEXEC SR" verb will return the list of outstanding system replies 
(no need to issue and parse "D R,R").

You can then loop thru the returned logical rows to locate the prompt that you 
are searching for and then use "ISFSLASH" to send back the response.

Obviously you will need the associated SDSF and z/OS permissions to do this.

For more info, see the SDSF manuals for information on using SDSF REXX (or have 
a look at various Share presentations on this subject).

Rob Scott
Rocket Software

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z/OS Conda install questions

[Lionel B. Dyck]

I'm looking at installing some of the Rocket ported tools using their new
CONDA process and from what I see the only way to do so is to install the
entire CONDA filesystem on each LPAR/Plex. That makes it difficult to easily
identify the specific changes for change management along with installing
significantly more on systems where a package may not be wanted/used.

 

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Re: how to reply highlight message by REXX

[Steve Horein]

I second the motion for auto-reply, unless you need to apply logic to
determine the response to give.
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.3.0?topic=sys1parmlib-autorxx-auto-reply-policy-specifications


On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 8:23 AM ibmmain  wrote:

> Hi all 
>
>
>   After we submit a JOB, we need reply highlight message issued by
> the JOB in console.
>
>
>  Could you tell us how to issue ' D R,R' command to get reply-ID and
> reply this message by REXX?
>
>
>   Any suggestions /samples are highly appreciated !
>
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
>
> Jason Cai
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AW: And the survey says...

[Michael Knigge]

I think you're close 😉

I've worked with PCOM, RUMBA, Nexus and Vista tn3270 And I felt in love 
with Vista tn3270.. Why?! You might roll your eyes, but it's the font. The 
first time I've installed Vista tn3270 I looked at it and no other 3270 
Emulator I've used so far provided a such great looking and great readable font.

I loved it so much - I've "extracted" the font and use it also with my SPF/SE 
editor Still love it since over 10 years (I guess)

Bye,
Michael



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Nachricht-
Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  Im Auftrag von 
Grant Taylor
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2021 18:40
An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Betreff: Re: And the survey says...

On 4/29/21 10:09 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
> I don't have any stake in this game but I kind of suspect the best
> 3270 emulator in the world is the one I am used to; and conversely, 
> the worst 3270 emulator in the world is any other that I am being 
> forced to use.

~chuckle~

I wondered if something like 'pie in hand' might be the case.

But I do know that there is a big difference in the capabilities of various 
VT100 / ANSI terminal emulators (where I have more experience). 
Almost all of those emulators will perform a very basic function.  But the 
differences almost always revolve around what features sit on top of basic 
terminal emulation; scripting / automation, connection parameter abilities, 
preferences / customization support, et al.

But I asked the question wondering if there was something that made 
$YourPreferredTerminalEmulator stand out for you.  E.g. I like $FeatureX of 
$EmulatorY (for reasons).



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Re: And the survey says...

[Seymour J Metz]

The author cited GDDM manuals rather than 3179G manuals or the 3270 data 
streams manual.


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On 29/04/2021 7:41 pm, Alexander Huemer wrote:
> I was just pointed to this document: [1].
> Definitely not the 3179G book you mentioned, but it seems to contain
> information related to 3270 vector graphics. Maybe it helps.
>
> -Alex
>
> [1]https://secure-web.cisco.com/1oUY7cTeCPup1dcBrSkTcysT01jy8UiXbNsZpHl3dU6uzq99SJDpX3jQAwr47yy0TbYMdImgwWucJHjNe-ACfV2LziqSy9KNSryIAqT-NedKkTwnDa0hpH-tyijBQrgRqYyKGF79pZqeSOjWp9_HygeH2oLfjpvhwT1QKt-MbLztfRfaAZspJgDNXIeP9eiroPUrF8vGe556nVd4Rb7u_Hl-lrFGa1HIWiNlZBwdUtbVYfvuOjbvI2vF7AARgHqv0_-d_JR6F5gXDba1FGvIDT8O0yq8P7Y5ByNYnSGH-WaGjc22Sfa7hqMs88TeXo107wMEYrXCcBLjgVSf__Jl_aC_44knRNemCIfRemVp3VZVLBadw-alsLncUbijCSEqx0Ow-pD1o0BYB2N74fOskteKmLJC7JDPYL8DdyADNq0FxZHg1hz9fp_HDAZBVGgcF/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.slac.stanford.edu%2Fvault%2Fcollvault%2Fgreylit%2Fcgtm%2FCGTM205.pdf

Thanks Alex - I've downloaded a copy to peruse...

I read the section on the 3179-G - the author was not very complimentary
about the device or the available documentation about it. Given his
comparison to other graphics devices (DEC, Tektronics, etc.) I'm
inclined to agree.

Cheers,
Greg

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Re: SFTP jcl with proxy server

[Kurt Quackenbush]

On 4/28/2021 6:25 PM, Bill Giannelli wrote:

How do specify a proxy server in JCL for SFTP executing BPXBATCH?
I have no experience using it, but have you considered the 
-oProxyCommand option of sftp?


Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development
Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.

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Re: SFTP jcl with proxy server

[william giannelli]

ok "-oProxyCommand" then?

On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 8:51 AM Kurt Quackenbush  wrote:

> On 4/28/2021 6:25 PM, Bill Giannelli wrote:
> > How do specify a proxy server in JCL for SFTP executing BPXBATCH?
> I have no experience using it, but have you considered the
> -oProxyCommand option of sftp?
>
> Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development
> Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.
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Re: SFTP jcl with proxy server

[william giannelli]

I am using ProxyCommand. but where do I specify the password?

On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 8:58 AM william giannelli 
wrote:

> ok "-oProxyCommand" then?
>
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 8:51 AM Kurt Quackenbush  wrote:
>
>> On 4/28/2021 6:25 PM, Bill Giannelli wrote:
>> > How do specify a proxy server in JCL for SFTP executing BPXBATCH?
>> I have no experience using it, but have you considered the
>> -oProxyCommand option of sftp?
>>
>> Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development
>> Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.
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OT: wikipedia DASD or tape editors?

[Seymour J Metz]

I wanted to rename and update the wikipedia article Track (disk drive) at 
 so that it applied to 
all DASD, but there was resistance from editors who had not grown up with, 
e.g., drums, CRAM, noodle pckers, RACE. I've started a new article Draft:Track 
(moving medium) at 
 with the 
intention of eventually merging the articles. 

Is there anyone here with a suitable background that would be willing to proof 
and edit the wiki article Draft:Track (moving medium) at 
?



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Re: SFTP jcl with proxy server

[Kirk Wolf]

Take a look at the z/OS OpenSSH User's Guide documentation for:

ssh options:
- ProxyCommand
- ProxyUseFdPass

command:
- ssh-proxyc   (in z/OS V2R4, if you have a prior release you can get it 
from https://dovetail.com/community.html )


I don't know what kind of proxy you are referring to, but the ssh-proxyc 
command provides for navigation of a simple SOCKS5 proxy.


For example:

//SFTPCONN EXEC PROC=SFTPPROC
//SFTPIN DD *
user=myuser
host=myhost.myco.com
lzopts="mode=text"
rfile="/app/data/remotefile.txt"

sftp_opts="$sftp_opts -oProxyUseFDpass=yes"
sftp_opts="$sftp_opts -oProxyCommand='ssh-proxyc 192.168.0.50:1080 %h %p' "

. $script_dir/sftp_connect.sh 

Re: SORTTRAK usage on z/OS 2.4

[Robert Hahne]

Thanks for your inputs . We are doing this on a test system at this time and I 
couldnt find any date /time conversion subroutines over there 

Could you please provide me a sample of SUDATE , SUTIME and SUYYDDDF which I 
can use for this purpose ?

Regards,
Robert

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Re: ICSF Dynamic service update and MIGLIB

[Eric D Rossman]

Hello, Mike. I'm the author of the APAR/PTF in question as well as some of 
the wording the canned DYNACT hold text. I can try to explain.

DYNACT is intended to provide for non-disruptively reloading modules used 
by the ICSF address space (CSFINPVT, CSFINPV2) and the ICSF LPA modules 
should they be impacted by service.

MIGLIB is used only for IPCS formatters and models, which are not involved 
in DYNACT. The same is true for load modules in SCSFSTUB (where the ICSF 
callable service stubs exist) and ICSF dialog modules (which happen to 
live in SCSFMOD0 as well).

All these load modules would be brought in using the normal service method 
(at the next IPL or via dynamic LNKLST).

I understand the confusion about this and we are working on making the 
wording clearer.

Eric Rossman, CISSP®
ICSF Cryptographic Security Development
z/OS Enabling Technologies
edros...@us.ibm.com

Mike Martin  wrote:

> I'm a little surprised that IBM's HOLD(DYNACT) doesn't speak to MIGLIB.

> Hi all,
> 
> We need additional ICSF capability (CVN18) so we are applying a PTF 
(UJ03312) to our z/OS V2.4 ISCF (HCR77D0).
> 
> There is an SMP/E HOLD(DYNACT) which tells us how to dynamically update 
the ICSF code from libraries CSFMOD0 and IEALNKE.
> 
> But, we noticed that SYS1.MIGLIB was also updated during the SMP/E 
apply.  We don't apply to a running system, so I'm wondering how we handle 
the updates to MIGLIB as there is no mention of it in the ISCF doc for 
dynamic service update.
> 
> Mike Martin


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Re: SORTTRAK usage on z/OS 2.4

[Farley, Peter x23353]

If there are no in-house written subroutines already available to you on the 
test system you are using, that means you need to write them yourself.

It sounds like that was the CBT author's intent anyway.  Besides, it's a good 
little programming project to write useful tool subroutines.  Try it, you'll 
like it!

Peter

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Thanks for your inputs . We are doing this on a test system at this time and I 
couldnt find any date /time conversion subroutines over there 

Could you please provide me a sample of SUDATE , SUTIME and SUYYDDDF which I 
can use for this purpose ?

Regards,
Robert 
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Re: SORTTRAK usage on z/OS 2.4

[Robert Hahne]

okay...Let me try that and see how it goes 

Regards,
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Re: How to specify logical SYSLIB when linking with xclang++ under uss

[Richard Way]

Thanks! I believe this is exactly what I need to do, and in fact I had an edit 
session going on a config customization for syslib_x when I spotted your reply!

Much appreciated.

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Subject: Re: How to specify logical SYSLIB when linking with xclang++ under uss

I would use a configuration file. Copy
/usr/lpp/cbclib/xlclang/etc/xlclang.cfg into one of your directories and either 
set the XL_CONFIG environment variable or include it with the -F compiler 
option. Add your data set to the syslib_x concatenation.

  VIEW   /RZ204Y/usr/lpp/cbclib/xlclang/etc/xlclang.cfg
  Command ===>
  **
*
Top of Data **
  01 *
  02 * FUNCTION: z/OS V2.4.1 XL C/C++ Compiler Configuration file
  03 *
  04 * Licensed Materials - Property of IBM
  05 * 5650-ZOS Copyright IBM Corp. 2019.
  06 * US Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or
  07 * disclosure restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corp.
  08 *
  09
  10 * Clang C compiler
  11 clang:    use   = DEFLT
  12
  13 * Clang C++ compiler
  14 clang++:  use   = DEFLT
  15   options   = 
-D_XOPEN_SOURCE=600,-D__static_assert=static_assert,-Wno-parentheses,-Wno-unused-value
  16
  17 * common definitions
  18 DEFLT:    cppcomp   = /usr/lpp/cbclib/xlclang/exe/clcdrvr
  19   ccomp = /usr/lpp/cbclib/xlclang/exe/clcdrvr
  20   as    = /bin/c89
  21   ld_c  = /bin/c89
  22   ld_cpp    = /bin/cxx
  23   xlC   = /usr/lpp/cbclib/xlclang/bin/xlclang
  24   xlCcopt   = -D_XOPEN_SOURCE
  25   sysobj    = cee.sceeobj:cee.sceecpp
  26   syslib_x  = cee.sceebnd2:sys1.csslib
  27   exportlist_c_x    = cee.sceelib(celhs003,celhs001)
  28   exportlist_cpp_x  =
cee.sceelib(celhs003,celhs001,celhscpp)
  29   exportlist_c_64   = cee.sceelib(celqs003)
  30   exportlist_cpp_64 =
cee.sceelib(celqs003,celqscpp,cxxrt64)
  31   cinc  = -isystem/usr/include/le
  32   cppinc    = -isystem/usr/include/c++
  33   options   = 
-D_UNIX03_WITHDRAWN,-L/usr/lpp/cbclib/lib
  34   libraries = -libmcmp
  35   steplib   = cbc.sclccmp
  **

Bottom of Data 


On 29/04/2021 3:23 am, Richard Way wrote:
> I don't know how the xclang++ line got mangled, but it's really just one line 
> - NOT three invocations of xclang++!
>
> Guessing it's something about the ++ and the listserv, let's try it again 
> substituting "FRED" for "xclang++"
>
> FRED -v -Wl,MAP,LIST=ALL,XREF -obin/zprotect 
> obj/zprotect/zprotect.cpp.o lib/libsapi.a lib/libvtk-core.a 
> /usr/lib/GSKCMS64.x /usr/lib/GSKSSL64.x
>
> Rich Way
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Richard Way
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 11:51 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: How to specify logical SYSLIB when linking with xclang++ 
> under uss
>
> I am having a problem using xlclang++ to link my program on uss. I have 
> unresolved references, but I actually know where the modules that are needed 
> are located - I am just unable to express that information to the binder.
> As an example, CSNERNG is located in "CSF.SCSFMOD0", but isn't found because 
> the default SYSLIB is just the concatenation of CEE.SCEEBND2 with 
> SYS1.CSSLIB.  I need to logically add CSF.SCSFMOD0 to that concatenation.
>
> I discovered that with the '-v' switch, I can get xlclang++ to emit 
> both the pseudo-JCL it would use and the "export"s of environment 
> variables, and, from that output, I discovered that the variable 
> _CXX_L6SYSLIB is what I supposedly need to set - but setting it and 
> exporting it prior to issuing my make command doesn't have any effect 
> - the unresolved reference still occurs, and the generated pseudo-JCL 
> does not include my addition to the concatenation. (BTW the Unix 
> System Services Command Reference confirms that _CXX_L6SYSLIB is the 
> correct variable for an lp64 invocation.)
>
> The command that I am using for the link is:
> xlclang++ -v  -Wl,MAP,LIST=ALL,XREF -obin/zprotect 
> xlclang++ obj/zprotect/zprotect.cpp.o lib/libsapi.a lib/libvtk-core.a 
> xlclang++ /usr/lib/GSKCMS64.x /usr/lib/GSKSSL64.x
>
> The e

Re: And the survey says... [sidebar]

[Bob Bridges]

Makes sense to me.  I use the same reasoning whenever I buy a new PC and shell 
out actual money for a copy of Office Pro.  The lookalikes (my sister swears by 
Open Office, for example) may ~say~ they're fully compatible.  But when I 
supply a solution to a client I'm unwilling to risk it; it's gotta be the real 
thing.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 12:12

Interestingly, Tom himself always had Attachmate at the ready on his 
workstation when I couldn't be bothered. His reasoning: since it was the 
corporate standard, he needed to able to handle problem calls.   

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FW: SPF/SE... out of business

[Barry Merrill]

 

I received this email from Tim in January.

 

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Subject: Re: EDITOR Not Working 3454 - DEAD IN THE WATER

 

Hello Barry, 

 

I am in a Covid-19 Quarantine.  Wife and I tested positive last Wednesday.  No 
treatment offered, just double up on Vitamin C, D, and Zinc.  Hanging in with a 
raspy cough for last 5 days.  Hope for improvement soon.  Will have to suspend 
SPF activities for a while.

 

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Re: And the survey says...

[Bob Bridges]

Oops.  I was JUST thinking I should maybe look into it.  Guess I won't.

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Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 13:05

I have at times served in a quasi-helpdesk position (responding to reports of 
problems in my own code.)  I much preferred that users report with screenshots 
not in images but as text that I could search-select-copy-paste to analyze or 
reproduce a problem.

Alas, the screenshot-as-text is the $FeatureX apparently absent from the 
$EmulatorY modally favored in this thread.

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User complaints (was "And the survey says...")

[Bob Bridges]

My favorite:

Customer: That trick you showed me?  It didn't work.
Me: What ~did~ it do?
Customer: Nothing.
Me: Oh, come on, it did something.  You got an error message, right?  What did 
it say?
Customer: Oh, it said some damn thing.

This was a regular customer; we'd had this conversation before, and he was 
laughing at himself as he said it.  But he still said it.

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Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 14:20

Customer: it blew up.
Us: what was the error message?
Customer: I don't know, something about an error occurred.
Us: Please send us the listing.
Customer: Oh, we already purged the output. When are you going to have a fix 
for us?

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Re: And the survey says... [sidebar]

[Seymour J Metz]

To me the real thing if LibreOffice or BookMaster (z"l). I used to call 
WordPerfect WordPervert until I had to use ms office. In particular, 
cut-and-paste of items in lists is horribly broken.


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Makes sense to me.  I use the same reasoning whenever I buy a new PC and shell 
out actual money for a copy of Office Pro.  The lookalikes (my sister swears by 
Open Office, for example) may ~say~ they're fully compatible.  But when I 
supply a solution to a client I'm unwilling to risk it; it's gotta be the real 
thing.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 12:12

Interestingly, Tom himself always had Attachmate at the ready on his 
workstation when I couldn't be bothered. His reasoning: since it was the 
corporate standard, he needed to able to handle problem calls.

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Re: How to specify logical SYSLIB when linking with xclang++ under uss

[Richard Way]

Yup, this did exactly what I needed.

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Thanks! I believe this is exactly what I need to do, and in fact I had an edit 
session going on a config customization for syslib_x when I spotted your reply!

Much appreciated.

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I would use a configuration file. Copy
/usr/lpp/cbclib/xlclang/etc/xlclang.cfg into one of your directories and either 
set the XL_CONFIG environment variable or include it with the -F compiler 
option. Add your data set to the syslib_x concatenation.

  VIEW   /RZ204Y/usr/lpp/cbclib/xlclang/etc/xlclang.cfg
  Command ===>
  **
*
Top of Data **
  01 *
  02 * FUNCTION: z/OS V2.4.1 XL C/C++ Compiler Configuration file
  03 *
  04 * Licensed Materials - Property of IBM
  05 * 5650-ZOS Copyright IBM Corp. 2019.
  06 * US Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or
  07 * disclosure restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corp.
  08 *
  09
  10 * Clang C compiler
  11 clang:    use   = DEFLT
  12
  13 * Clang C++ compiler
  14 clang++:  use   = DEFLT
  15   options   = 
-D_XOPEN_SOURCE=600,-D__static_assert=static_assert,-Wno-parentheses,-Wno-unused-value
  16
  17 * common definitions
  18 DEFLT:    cppcomp   = /usr/lpp/cbclib/xlclang/exe/clcdrvr
  19   ccomp = /usr/lpp/cbclib/xlclang/exe/clcdrvr
  20   as    = /bin/c89
  21   ld_c  = /bin/c89
  22   ld_cpp    = /bin/cxx
  23   xlC   = /usr/lpp/cbclib/xlclang/bin/xlclang
  24   xlCcopt   = -D_XOPEN_SOURCE
  25   sysobj    = cee.sceeobj:cee.sceecpp
  26   syslib_x  = cee.sceebnd2:sys1.csslib
  27   exportlist_c_x    = cee.sceelib(celhs003,celhs001)
  28   exportlist_cpp_x  =
cee.sceelib(celhs003,celhs001,celhscpp)
  29   exportlist_c_64   = cee.sceelib(celqs003)
  30   exportlist_cpp_64 =
cee.sceelib(celqs003,celqscpp,cxxrt64)
  31   cinc  = -isystem/usr/include/le
  32   cppinc    = -isystem/usr/include/c++
  33   options   = 
-D_UNIX03_WITHDRAWN,-L/usr/lpp/cbclib/lib
  34   libraries = -libmcmp
  35   steplib   = cbc.sclccmp
  **

Bottom of Data 


On 29/04/2021 3:23 am, Richard Way wrote:
> I don't know how the xclang++ line got mangled, but it's really just one line 
> - NOT three invocations of xclang++!
>
> Guessing it's something about the ++ and the listserv, let's try it again 
> substituting "FRED" for "xclang++"
>
> FRED -v -Wl,MAP,LIST=ALL,XREF -obin/zprotect 
> obj/zprotect/zprotect.cpp.o lib/libsapi.a lib/libvtk-core.a 
> /usr/lib/GSKCMS64.x /usr/lib/GSKSSL64.x
>
> Rich Way
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Richard Way
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 11:51 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: How to specify logical SYSLIB when linking with xclang++ 
> under uss
>
> I am having a problem using xlclang++ to link my program on uss. I have 
> unresolved references, but I actually know where the modules that are needed 
> are located - I am just unable to express that information to the binder.
> As an example, CSNERNG is located in "CSF.SCSFMOD0", but isn't found because 
> the default SYSLIB is just the concatenation of CEE.SCEEBND2 with 
> SYS1.CSSLIB.  I need to logically add CSF.SCSFMOD0 to that concatenation.
>
> I discovered that with the '-v' switch, I can get xlclang++ to emit 
> both the pseudo-JCL it would use and the "export"s of environment 
> variables, and, from that output, I discovered that the variable 
> _CXX_L6SYSLIB is what I supposedly need to set - but setting it and 
> exporting it prior to issuing my make command doesn't have any effect
> - the unresolved reference still occurs, and the generated pseudo-JCL 
> does not include my addition to the concatenation. (BTW the Unix 
> System Services Command Reference confirms t

Re: And the survey says...

[Bob Bridges]

Font?!  Emulators usually let you select among a variety of fonts.  (I always 
use Consolas these days, because it's fixed-spacing ~and~ slashes the zeroes.)  
Does Vista offer something unique?

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actions are said to bring on rain, there has never seemed to be a taboo against 
pulling off the legs or wings of flies.  Most children eventually outgrow this 
behavior.  Those who do not either come to a bad end or become biologists.  
-Vincent Dethier, _To Know a Fly_ */

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Michael Knigge
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 07:12

I've worked with PCOM, RUMBA, Nexus and Vista tn3270 And I felt in love 
with Vista tn3270.. Why?! You might roll your eyes, but it's the font. The 
first time I've installed Vista tn3270 I looked at it and no other 3270 
Emulator I've used so far provided a such great looking and great readable font.

I loved it so much - I've "extracted" the font and use it also with my SPF/SE 
editor Still love it since over 10 years (I guess)

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Re: User complaints (was "And the survey says...")

[Seymour J Metz]

Q: "why didn't you tell me foo?" A: "Because it didn't matter."

They almost always give their (mistaken) interpretation instead of the raw data.

I also hated the ones hat gave me a SYSABEND on dead trees instead of of a 
SYSMDUMP that I could browse in IPCS.

But it's not always the user's fault. "I got message foo". "What does System 
Messages say?" "Contact your system programmer." Thanks, IBM, I am the systems 
programmer.

Rule 1: trust but verify.


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My favorite:

Customer: That trick you showed me?  It didn't work.
Me: What ~did~ it do?
Customer: Nothing.
Me: Oh, come on, it did something.  You got an error message, right?  What did 
it say?
Customer: Oh, it said some damn thing.

This was a regular customer; we'd had this conversation before, and he was 
laughing at himself as he said it.  But he still said it.

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Charles Mills
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 14:20

Customer: it blew up.
Us: what was the error message?
Customer: I don't know, something about an error occurred.
Us: Please send us the listing.
Customer: Oh, we already purged the output. When are you going to have a fix 
for us?

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Re: And the survey says...

[Seymour J Metz]

I once worked on a project for Bell Labs where their chain slashed Os rather 
than zeroes.


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Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 12:29 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: And the survey says...

Font?!  Emulators usually let you select among a variety of fonts.  (I always 
use Consolas these days, because it's fixed-spacing ~and~ slashes the zeroes.)  
Does Vista offer something unique?

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actions are said to bring on rain, there has never seemed to be a taboo against 
pulling off the legs or wings of flies.  Most children eventually outgrow this 
behavior.  Those who do not either come to a bad end or become biologists.  
-Vincent Dethier, _To Know a Fly_ */

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Michael Knigge
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 07:12

I've worked with PCOM, RUMBA, Nexus and Vista tn3270 And I felt in love 
with Vista tn3270.. Why?! You might roll your eyes, but it's the font. The 
first time I've installed Vista tn3270 I looked at it and no other 3270 
Emulator I've used so far provided a such great looking and great readable font.

I loved it so much - I've "extracted" the font and use it also with my SPF/SE 
editor Still love it since over 10 years (I guess)

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Re: AW: And the survey says...

[Grant Taylor]

On 4/30/21 5:11 AM, Michael Knigge wrote:
I've worked with PCOM, RUMBA, Nexus and Vista tn3270 And I felt 
in love with Vista tn3270.. Why?! You might roll your eyes, but it's 
the font.


No, I don't roll my eyes at that.

I /was/ going to say that's one of the /little/ creature features that 
make a worthwhile difference.  Except I changed my mind part way through 
typing creature as I realized that the font is one of the things that we 
will spend hours a day actually interacting with.  Many of the other 
creature features; script ability, screen dump, etc, all impact our 
day-to-day, hour-to-hour, minute-to-minute /use/ of something much less 
than a font.  Or said another way, the font is something that our brain 
will be processing and translating from a visual representation to 
something we cognitively understand.  So if there is something that can 
be done to make it easier for our brain to do when it does that hundreds 
if not thousands of times a day, that's a big win to me.


The Microsoft commercial where one IT guy stops another IT guy who is 
wondering around with dumbfounded look on his face looking at a nickle, 
and asks what's wrong comes to mind.  Then the 2nd IT guy tells the 1st 
IT guy that they are saving a nickle /per/ /transaction/ and hands the 
nickle to the 1st IT guy and walks off.  Then the 1st IT guy starts 
wondering around with an equally dumbfounded look on his face while 
making a comment "we process hundreds of thousands of transactions a day".


I say this because even the smallest change; cost reduction, 
simplification, efficiency gain, in something that happens a LOT ends up 
having a profound impact.  If that happens to be using a font that is 
easier for our brains to process, then by all means, so be it.


I loved it so much - I've "extracted" the font and use it also with 
my SPF/SE editor Still love it since over 10 years (I guess)


Nice.

I wonder if the font is available somewhere legally / with license 
elsewhere /or/ if it's /exclusive/ to the Vista tn3270.  If it's not 
available independent of Vista tn3270, then you may need a license of 
Vista tn3270 to legally use the font in a different terminal emulator or 
program on the system.


So, now I wonder if there is a different terminal emulator that does 
something else better than Vista tn3270 that could use the font from 
Vista tn3270 and make a superior hybrid solution.


Aside:  I know of Vista tn3270, but I have no idea how it's licensed.



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Re: And the survey says...

[Chuck Kreiter]

Disclosure, I've used PComm, Vista, Attachmate Extra, IBM HOD, Mocha, 
Hummingbird and a few other emulators that I don’t recall.  

I find Hummingbird not terribly intuitive or set up well to customize it to 
make it more suitable for what I do.  For example, I have to use TSO file 
transfer (FTP is restricted) and Hummingbird "guesses" at what the transfer 
type is and it's almost always wrong.  I see no means to turn that off.  It 
seems slow (could be environmental); especially on startup and opening the 
first emulator.  Text Cut/paste puts commas all over the place.  I can't find 
any setting in Hummingbird to stop that.  

It's not a matter of being forced to use this and I'm more familiar with the 
other emulators. 


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On 4/29/21 7:33 AM, Chuck Kreiter wrote:
> My firm uses Hummingbird.  As a sysprog, I loathe it.  PCOMM and Vista 
> are the tops in the emulator space IMO.

Would you please elaborate on what Hummingbird does / doesn't do that make you 
loath it as a sysprog?  Or more generally, how the different capabilities of a 
terminal (emulator) influence it's use by -- what I'm presuming to be -- power 
users?

Thank you for enlightening me.



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Re: SPF/SE... out of business

[Seymour J Metz]

Ouch! I don't know him,  but I hope they get well soon.


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I received this email from Tim in January.



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Hello Barry,



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Re: And the survey says...

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 16:36:22 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:

>I once worked on a project for Bell Labs where their chain slashed Os rather 
>than zeroes.
> 
I've seen "Ø"; also "Ō".  The rationale given was that the less common letters
should take more effort than the more common digits, like slashing "Ƶ".

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Re: And the survey says...

[Radoslaw Skorupka]

W dniu 30.04.2021 o 18:29, Bob Bridges pisze:

Font?!  Emulators usually let you select among a variety of fonts.  (I always 
use Consolas these days, because it's fixed-spacing ~and~ slashes the zeroes.)  
Does Vista offer something unique?


Vista provide own font. The same for PCOMM.
Note, font is licensed, so you have to buy it. OK, usually you get font 
collection with your OS or you download something for free. However good 
terminal font is important IMHO.

Notes:
1. PCOMM and AFAIK Vista use non-scalable (bitmap) fonts. The 
disadvantage is limited set of effective screen resolutions. Truetype or 
other scalable fonts win in this aspect.
2. For the rest of the world it could be interesting to have national 
characters in the font. Many years ago I tried to find an emulator with 
*proper* polish codepage support. And it was quite hard to do. PCOMM was 
expensive, Vista had no font (however Tom gave me a tool to redefine 
bitmap fonts) and the only vendor who supported polish codepage was 
Nexus. Actually Nexus had an error, but the author insisted to fix it 
and he did it.
AFAIK today wc3270 also support polish codepage properly, possibly other 
products as well.


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[PINION, RICHARD W.]

I have what is probably an elementary question.  I had a program invoked SORT 
ABEND
with a SE37-08 on a SMS managed temporary SORTOUT dataset.  Here's the error
stream.

11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR 
DATA SET  056
   056 SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166
11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17277I THERE ARE (80) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (46) ARE 
ENABLED OR QUIESCED
11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17290I THERE WERE 2 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE 
FIRST 2  058
   058 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
   058 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:PLARGE POVER
11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17279I 34 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT 
ONLINE
11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17279I 34 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THE UCB WAS NOT 
AVAILABLE
11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17279I 46 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE OF A DADSM 
FAILURE (044E0097)
11.48.03 JOB16510  IEC614I EXTEND FAILED - RC 000, DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION IS 
(04034379) ,  062
   062 STEP070,  ,SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166
11.48.03 JOB16510  IEC032I 
E37-08,IFG0554P,EFM186DP,STEP070,SORTOUT,5E24,PL0004,04034379,  063
   063 SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166
11.48.03 JOB16510  IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  065
   065 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=E37  REASON CODE=0008
   065  TIME=11.48.03  SEQ=02755  CPU=  ASID=00B4
   065  PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  075C1000   80DF7A8E  ILC 2  INTC 0D
   065NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
   065NAME=UNKNOWN
   065DATA AT PSW  00DF7A88 - 41003038  0A0DB20A  00509808
   065AR/GR 0: 008FEA30/00DF7C9C   1: /A4E37000

Here's the JCL DD statements in question.

XX*
IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - SYSOUT=L,DCB=BLKSIZE=133
XXSORTINDD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,150,,CONTIG)
XXSORTOUT   DD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,150,,CONTIG)
XX*

Here's a part of the SMS allocation messages.

IGD17165I MULTI-VOLUME TEMPORARY DATA SET
SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108165 WILL NOT BE STRIPED
IGD101I SMS ALLOCATED TO DDNAME (SORTIN  )
DSN (SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108165)
STORCLAS (WRKBATCH) MGMTCLAS () DATACLAS (EXT)
VOL SER NOS= PL0011
IGD17165I MULTI-VOLUME TEMPORARY DATA SET
SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166 WILL NOT BE STRIPED
IGD101I SMS ALLOCATED TO DDNAME (SORTOUT )
DSN (SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166)
STORCLAS (WRKBATCH) MGMTCLAS () DATACLAS (EXT)
VOL SER NOS= PL0004

Lastly, here's the SMS definition for DATACLAS EXT.

Recfm  . . . . . . . . . :
Lrecl  . . . . . . . . . :
Override Space . . . . . : NO
Space Avgrec . . . . . . :
  Avg Value  . . . . :
  Primary  . . . . . :
  Secondary  . . . . :
  Directory  . . . . :
Retpd Or Expdt . . . . . :
Volume Count . . . . . . : 1
Add'l Volume Amount  . . :
Data Set Name Type  . . . . . : EXTENDED
  If Extended . . . . . . . . : PREFERRED
  Extended Addressability . . : YES
  Record Access Bias  . . . . : USER
  RMODE31 . . . . . . . . . . :
Space Constraint Relief . . . : YES
  Reduce Space Up To (%)  . . : 50
  Guaranteed Space Reduction  : NO
  Dynamic Volume Count  . . . : 59

Finally, my question/confusion.  Are not SMS managed temporary datasets 
eligible for mutli-volume allocation?
In other words, shouldn't this SMS managed temporary dataset 1) had greater 
than 16 extents on the volume since it is an extended dataset, and
2) shouldn't the dataset have extended to another volume?
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[Radoslaw Skorupka]

Wild guess: you didn't provide secondary allocation.
That means one extent.



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W dniu 30.04.2021 o 20:30, PINION, RICHARD W. pisze:

I have what is probably an elementary question.  I had a program invoked SORT 
ABEND
with a SE37-08 on a SMS managed temporary SORTOUT dataset.  Here's the error
stream.

11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR 
DATA SET  056
056 SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166
11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17277I THERE ARE (80) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (46) ARE 
ENABLED OR QUIESCED
11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17290I THERE WERE 2 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE 
FIRST 2  058
058 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
058 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:PLARGE POVER
11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17279I 34 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT 
ONLINE
11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17279I 34 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THE UCB WAS NOT 
AVAILABLE
11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17279I 46 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE OF A DADSM 
FAILURE (044E0097)
11.48.03 JOB16510  IEC614I EXTEND FAILED - RC 000, DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION IS 
(04034379) ,  062
062 STEP070,  ,SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166
11.48.03 JOB16510  IEC032I 
E37-08,IFG0554P,EFM186DP,STEP070,SORTOUT,5E24,PL0004,04034379,  063
063 SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166
11.48.03 JOB16510  IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  065
065 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=E37  REASON CODE=0008
065  TIME=11.48.03  SEQ=02755  CPU=  ASID=00B4
065  PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  075C1000   80DF7A8E  ILC 2  INTC 0D
065NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
065NAME=UNKNOWN
065DATA AT PSW  00DF7A88 - 41003038  0A0DB20A  00509808
065AR/GR 0: 008FEA30/00DF7C9C   1: /A4E37000

Here's the JCL DD statements in question.

XX*
IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - SYSOUT=L,DCB=BLKSIZE=133
XXSORTINDD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,150,,CONTIG)
XXSORTOUT   DD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,150,,CONTIG)
XX*

Here's a part of the SMS allocation messages.

IGD17165I MULTI-VOLUME TEMPORARY DATA SET
SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108165 WILL NOT BE STRIPED
IGD101I SMS ALLOCATED TO DDNAME (SORTIN  )
 DSN (SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108165)
 STORCLAS (WRKBATCH) MGMTCLAS () DATACLAS (EXT)
 VOL SER NOS= PL0011
IGD17165I MULTI-VOLUME TEMPORARY DATA SET
SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166 WILL NOT BE STRIPED
IGD101I SMS ALLOCATED TO DDNAME (SORTOUT )
 DSN (SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166)
 STORCLAS (WRKBATCH) MGMTCLAS () DATACLAS (EXT)
 VOL SER NOS= PL0004

Lastly, here's the SMS definition for DATACLAS EXT.

Recfm  . . . . . . . . . :
Lrecl  . . . . . . . . . :
Override Space . . . . . : NO
Space Avgrec . . . . . . :
   Avg Value  . . . . :
   Primary  . . . . . :
   Secondary  . . . . :
   Directory  . . . . :
Retpd Or Expdt . . . . . :
Volume Count . . . . . . : 1
Add'l Volume Amount  . . :
Data Set Name Type  . . . . . : EXTENDED
   If Extended . . . . . . . . : PREFERRED
   Extended Addressability . . : YES
   Record Access Bias  . . . . : USER
   RMODE31 . . . . . . . . . . :
Space Constraint Relief . . . : YES
   Reduce Space Up To (%)  . . : 50
   Guaranteed Space Reduction  : NO
   Dynamic Volume Count  . . . : 59

Finally, my question/confusion.  Are not SMS managed temporary datasets 
eligible for mutli-volume allocation?
In other words, shouldn't this SMS managed temporary dataset 1) had greater 
than 16 extents on the volume since it is an extended dataset, and
2) shouldn't the dataset have extended to another volume?
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Re: And the survey says...

[Seymour J Metz]

What I'm comfortable with is a slashed digit and an underscored letter.


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On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 16:36:22 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:

>I once worked on a project for Bell Labs where their chain slashed Os rather 
>than zeroes.
>
I've seen "Ø"; also "Ō".  The rationale given was that the less common letters
should take more effort than the more common digits, like slashing "Ƶ".

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Syntax for calling a program from REXX with parm

[Bob Bridges]

I know I've done this before, but I'm having trouble doing something that most 
of you will say should be simple.  I have some JCL that executes a program in 
batch, and I want to create a REXX that does it in the foreground - allocates 
the datasets, runs the program, then fetches the output and displays it in 
View.  The program requires something in the PARM, and I'm  having trouble 
remembering the syntax for that.  Here's what I've tried:

  
+---++
  + call ','   | Error running , line : 
Routine not found |
  
+---++
  + address LINK ','   | RC -3 (routine not found)   
   |
  
+---++
  + '',''  | Error running , line : 
Unexpected "," or ")" |
  + address LINK '','' | 
   |
  
+---++
  + call ' '   | Error running , line : 
Incorrect call to routine |
  + call '' '' | 
   |
  + call '','' | 
   |
  
+---++
  + ' '| Program returns RC and complains it 
can't see the PARM.|
  + ','| 
   |
  + '' ''  | 
   |
  + address LINK ' '   | 
   |
  + address LINK '' '' | 
   |
  
+---++

Unless I go to LINKMVS or LINKPGM (and I don't know what those are for), I 
think I've used up all the possible combinations.  What am I missing?

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[PINION, RICHARD W.]

In addition to the EXT DC, we have implemented an IFG0EX0B exit to adjust 
secondary allocations.

1)  Increase secondary allocation by 150%.
2)  If no secondary specified, use a default of 50 tracks.


Below is the part of the exit that tests how the dataset has been
opened.  Notice that it is checking for OUTPUT and OUTIN.  If neither
of those, then no default secondary is requested.  I wonder, if SORT
is opening SORTOUT with something that is not part of the check
below?

ISRBROBA  SP9149.IFG0EX0B  Line 000
 Command ===>  S
TSTOOPT  EQU   *  TEST OPEN OPTION  
 TMOIEXOOPT,OIEXOOUT  OPEN FOR OUTPUT   
 BOSCREENOK   BRANCH IF YES 
 TMOIEXOOPT,OIEXOOIN  OPEN FOR OUTIN
 BNO   EXIT   EXIT IF NO
SCREENOK EQU   *
 BRRETRETURN TO CALL RLSE, SQTY 

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Subject: Re: Program invoked SORT, SMS managed //SORTOUT DD DSN=&&TEMP

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Wild guess: you didn't provide secondary allocation.
That means one extent.



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W dniu 30.04.2021 o 20:30, PINION, RICHARD W. pisze:
> I have what is probably an elementary question.  I had a program 
> invoked SORT ABEND with a SE37-08 on a SMS managed temporary SORTOUT 
> dataset.  Here's the error stream.
>
> 11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED 
> FOR DATA SET  056
> 056 SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166
> 11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17277I THERE ARE (80) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH 
> (46) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED
> 11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17290I THERE WERE 2 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH 
> THE FIRST 2  058
> 058 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
> 058 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:PLARGE POVER
> 11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17279I 34 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY 
> WERE NOT ONLINE
> 11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17279I 34 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THE UCB 
> WAS NOT AVAILABLE
> 11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17279I 46 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE OF A 
> DADSM FAILURE (044E0097)
> 11.48.03 JOB16510  IEC614I EXTEND FAILED - RC 000, DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION IS 
> (04034379) ,  062
> 062 STEP070,  ,SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166
> 11.48.03 JOB16510  IEC032I 
> E37-08,IFG0554P,EFM186DP,STEP070,SORTOUT,5E24,PL0004,04034379,  063
> 063 SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166
> 11.48.03 JOB16510  IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  065
> 065 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=E37  REASON CODE=0008
> 065  TIME=11.48.03  SEQ=02755  CPU=  ASID=00B4
> 065  PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  075C1000   80DF7A8E  ILC 2  INTC 0D
> 065NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
> 065NAME=UNKNOWN
> 065DATA AT PSW  00DF7A88 - 41003038  0A0DB20A  00509808
> 065AR/GR 0: 008FEA30/00DF7C9C   1: /A4E37000
>
> Here's the JCL DD statements in question.
>
> XX*
> IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - SYSOUT=L,DCB=BLKSIZE=133
> XXSORTINDD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,150,,CONTIG)
> XXSORTOUT   DD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,150,,CONTIG)
> XX*
>
> Here's a part of the SMS allocation messages.
>
> IGD17165I MULTI-VOLUME TEMPORARY DATA SET
> SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108165 WILL NOT BE STRIPED IGD101I 
> SMS ALLOCATED TO DDNAME (SORTIN  )
>  DSN (SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108165)
>  STORCLAS (WRKBATCH) MGMTCLAS () DATACLAS (EXT)
>  VOL SER NOS= PL0011
> IGD17165I MULTI-VOLUME TEMPORARY DATA SET
> SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166 WILL NOT BE STRIPED IGD101I 
> SMS ALLOCATED TO DDNAME (SORTOUT )
>  DSN (SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166)
>  STORCLAS (WRKBATCH) MGMTCLAS () DATACLAS (EXT)
>  VOL SER NOS= PL0004
>
> Lastly, here's the SMS definition for DATACLAS EXT.
>
> Recfm  . . . . . . . . . :
> Lrecl  . . . . . . . . . :
> Override Space . . . . . : NO
> Space Avgrec . . . . . . :
>Avg Value  . . . . :
>Primary  . . . . . :
>Secondary  . . . . :
>Directory  . . . . :
> Retpd Or Expdt . . . . . :
> Volume Count . . . . . . : 1
> Add'l Volume Amount  . . :
> Data Set Name Type  . . . . . : EXTENDED
>If Extended . . . . . . . . : PREFERRED
>Extended Addressability . . : YES
>Record Access Bias  . . . . : USER
>RMODE31 . . . . . . . . . . :
> Space Constraint Relief . . . : YES
>Reduce Space Up To (%)  . . : 50
>Guaranteed Space Reduction  : NO
>Dynamic Volume Count  

Re: Syntax for calling a program from REXX with parm

[Seymour J Metz]

You need the LINKMVS or ATTCHMVS environment. The syntax is

 ADDRESS environment command

The first word of the command is the program name. Subsequent words are the 
names of parameter. Example:


 foo = MYPROGRAM
 bar = MYPARM MYDDNAMES
 myparm = 'TRACE=NO'
 myddnames = 'ALTPRINTALTIN'
 ADDRESS LINKMVS FOO BAR

If novalue is enabled then you will need quotes (' or ") in the first two 
statements.


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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Syntax for calling a program from REXX with parm

I know I've done this before, but I'm having trouble doing something that most 
of you will say should be simple.  I have some JCL that executes a program in 
batch, and I want to create a REXX that does it in the foreground - allocates 
the datasets, runs the program, then fetches the output and displays it in 
View.  The program requires something in the PARM, and I'm  having trouble 
remembering the syntax for that.  Here's what I've tried:

  
+---++
  + call ','   | Error running , line : 
Routine not found |
  
+---++
  + address LINK ','   | RC -3 (routine not found)   
   |
  
+---++
  + '',''  | Error running , line : 
Unexpected "," or ")" |
  + address LINK '','' | 
   |
  
+---++
  + call ' '   | Error running , line : 
Incorrect call to routine |
  + call '' '' | 
   |
  + call '','' | 
   |
  
+---++
  + ' '| Program returns RC and complains it 
can't see the PARM.|
  + ','| 
   |
  + '' ''  | 
   |
  + address LINK ' '   | 
   |
  + address LINK '' '' | 
   |
  
+---++

Unless I go to LINKMVS or LINKPGM (and I don't know what those are for), I 
think I've used up all the possible combinations.  What am I missing?

---
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Re: Syntax for calling a program from REXX with parm

[Massimo Biancucci]

Bob,

hereby a piece of code where I call AMATERSE to UNTERSE ... it's not
important anyway I think it's what you're looking for.

It allocs the needed DDNAMEs and then call AMATERSE and after reads
SYSPRINT (output from AMATERSE) to evaluate the run.

What you're interested in is the LINKMVS and it's important that the PARM
must be a variable you've just initialized before.

Hope this helps.
Regards.
Max

/*---*/

ESEGUI_UNTERSE:



RC_UNTERSE = 0



ADDRESS TSO "FREE FI(SYSUT1)"

ADDRESS TSO "FREE FI(SYSUT2)"

ADDRESS TSO "FREE FI(SYSPRINT)"



FN = ARG(1)

PREF = ARG(2)



DTJ = DATE("J")

DTJ = DTJ

TIMEX = TIME()

PARSE VAR TIMEX HH":"MM":"SS .

TIMEL = HH !! MM !! SS

DSN_TEMP = PREF".SQBN0G."JOBNAME"."JOBID".D"DTJ".T"TIMEL

IF LENGTH(DSN_TEMP) > 44 THEN DO

  SAY "ERRORE IN DETERMINAZIONE DSN_TEMP - LUNGHEZZA > 44:"DSN_TEMP

  MAX_RC = 99

  CALL FINE

END

MSG_TEMP = PREF".SQBN0G."JOBNAME"."JOBID".D"DTJ".M"TIMEL



ADDRESS TSO "ALLOC FI(SYSUT1) DA('"FN"') SHR"

RCL = RC

IF RCL <> 0 THEN DO

  SAY "ERRORE IN ALLOCAZIONE FILE DI INPUT UNTERSE:"RCL

  MAX_RC = 99

  CALL FINE

END



ADDRESS TSO "FREE ATTRLIST(AT)"

ADDRESS TSO "ATTR AT DSORG(PS)"

ADDRESS TSO "FREE F(SYSUT2)"



/* DI SOLITO COMPRESSIONE = 10/1 */

PQTY = SYSPRIMARY * 10

SQTY = SYSSECONDS * 10

SELECT

  WHEN SYSUNITS = "TRACK" THEN TQTY = "TRACKS"

  WHEN SYSUNITS = "CYLINDER" THEN TQTY = "CYLINDERS"

  OTHERWISE DO

SAY "TROVATA UNITA' DI ALLOCAZIONE NON PREVISTA:"SYSUNITS

MAX_RC = 99

CALL FINE

  END

END



"ALLOC F(SYSUT2) UNIT(SYSDA) SPACE("PQTY SQTY")",

 TQTY "DATACLAS(UEFSQCMP) NEW CATALOG",

 "DA('"DSN_TEMP"') USING(AT)"

RCL = RC

IF RCL <> 0 THEN DO

  SAY "ERRORE IN ALLOCAZIONE FILE TEMPORANEO UNTERSE:"RCL

  MAX_RC = 99

  CALL FINE

END



ADDRESS TSO "FREE ATTRLIST(AT)"

ADDRESS TSO "ATTR AT LRECL(132) RECFM(F B A) DSORG(PS)"

"ALLOC F(SYSPRINT) UNIT(SYSDA) SPACE("10 10")",

"TRACKS NEW CATALOG",

 "DA('"MSG_TEMP"') USING(AT)"

RCL = RC

IF RCL <> 0 THEN DO

  SAY "ERRORE IN ALLOCAZIONE FILE MESSAGGI UNTERSE:"RCL

  MAX_RC = 99

  CALL FINE

END



ADDRESS TSO "FREE ATTRLIST(AT)"



ACTION = "UNPACK"

ADDRESS LINKMVS "AMATERSE ACTION"

RCL = RC

IF RCL <> 0 THEN DO

  IF RCL > 8 THEN DO

SAY "ERRORE IN AMATERSE NON PREVISTO:"RCL

ADDRESS MVS "EXECIO * DISKR SYSPRINT(FINIS STEM UNTERSE.)"

CALL STAMPA_MSG_UNTERSE

MAX_RC = 99

CALL FINE

  END

  SAY "ERRORE IN CALL AMATERSE:"RCL

  RC_UNTERSE = 4

END



ADDRESS TSO "FREE FI(SYSUT1)"

ADDRESS TSO "FREE FI(SYSUT2)"



ADDRESS MVS "EXECIO * DISKR SYSPRINT(FINIS STEM UNTERSE.)"

ADDRESS TSO "FREE FI(SYSPRINT)"



RETURN RC_UNTERSE

Il giorno ven 30 apr 2021 alle ore 20:34 Bob Bridges 
ha scritto:

> I know I've done this before, but I'm having trouble doing something that
> most of you will say should be simple.  I have some JCL that executes a
> program in batch, and I want to create a REXX that does it in the
> foreground - allocates the datasets, runs the program, then fetches the
> output and displays it in View.  The program requires something in the
> PARM, and I'm  having trouble remembering the syntax for that.  Here's what
> I've tried:
>
>
> +---++
>   + call ','   | Error running , line :
> Routine not found |
>
> +---++
>   + address LINK ','   | RC -3 (routine not found)
> |
>
> +---++
>   + '',''  | Error running , line :
> Unexpected "," or ")" |
>   + address LINK '','' |
> |
>
> +---++
>   + call ' '   | Error running , line :
> Incorrect call to routine |
>   + call '' '' |
> |
>   + call '','' |
> |
>
> +---++
>   + ' '| Program returns RC and complains
> it can't see the PARM.|
>   + ','|
> |
>   + '' ''  |
> |
>   + address LINK ' '   |
> |
>   + address LINK '' '' |
> |
>
> +---++
>
> Unless I go to LINKMVS or LINKPGM (and I don't know what those are for), I
> think I've used up all the possible combinations.  What am I missing?
>
> ---
> Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313
>
> /* You do not examine legislation in the light of the benefits it will
> convey if properly administered, but in the light of 

Re: And the survey says...

[Gord Tomlin]

On 2021-04-29 13:05 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

Alas, the screenshot-as-text is the $FeatureX apparently absent
from the $EmulatorY modally favored in this thread.


I'm going to ASSume that "the $EmulatorY modally favored in this thread" 
refers to Vista. With Vista, you can copy/paste any portion of the 
contents of the screen as text (including the entire screen if desired), 
which IMHO is much better than a screenshot tool that unconditionally 
copies the entire screen contents.


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Re: Program invoked SORT, SMS managed //SORTOUT DD DSN=&&TEMP [EXTERNAL]

[Feller, Paul]

Maybe this will help.


IGD17165I  MULTI-VOLUME TEMPORARY DATA SET dsname WILL NOT BE STRIPED. 
   
Explanation:   It is not possible to allocate a multi-volume temporary data set
in extended format. Due to technical reasons, is is not possible to create an  
NVR (non-VSAM volume record) for temporary data sets and the NVR contains  
crucial information for extended format and compressed data sets.  
   
In the message text:   
   
dsname 
 The specified data set name.  
   
System action:  The data set is allocated in non-extended format.  
   
Programmer response:  This is an informational message. Allocation continues.  
   
Source:   Data Facility Product (DFSMS)
   
Routing code:  2   
   
Descriptor code:  4


Thanks.. 
  
Paul Feller
GTS Mainframe Technical Support

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Subject: Program invoked SORT, SMS managed //SORTOUT DD DSN=&&TEMP [EXTERNAL]

I have what is probably an elementary question.  I had a program invoked SORT 
ABEND with a SE37-08 on a SMS managed temporary SORTOUT dataset.  Here's the 
error stream.

11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR 
DATA SET  056
   056 SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166
11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17277I THERE ARE (80) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (46) ARE 
ENABLED OR QUIESCED
11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17290I THERE WERE 2 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE 
FIRST 2  058
   058 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
   058 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:PLARGE POVER
11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17279I 34 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT 
ONLINE
11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17279I 34 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THE UCB WAS NOT 
AVAILABLE
11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17279I 46 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE OF A DADSM 
FAILURE (044E0097)
11.48.03 JOB16510  IEC614I EXTEND FAILED - RC 000, DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION IS 
(04034379) ,  062
   062 STEP070,  ,SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166
11.48.03 JOB16510  IEC032I 
E37-08,IFG0554P,EFM186DP,STEP070,SORTOUT,5E24,PL0004,04034379,  063
   063 SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166
11.48.03 JOB16510  IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  065
   065 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=E37  REASON CODE=0008
   065  TIME=11.48.03  SEQ=02755  CPU=  ASID=00B4
   065  PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  075C1000   80DF7A8E  ILC 2  INTC 0D
   065NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
   065NAME=UNKNOWN
   065DATA AT PSW  00DF7A88 - 41003038  0A0DB20A  00509808
   065AR/GR 0: 008FEA30/00DF7C9C   1: /A4E37000

Here's the JCL DD statements in question.

XX*
IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - SYSOUT=L,DCB=BLKSIZE=133
XXSORTINDD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,150,,CONTIG)
XXSORTOUT   DD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,150,,CONTIG)
XX*

Here's a part of the SMS allocation messages.

IGD17165I MULTI-VOLUME TEMPORARY DATA SET
SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108165 WILL NOT BE STRIPED IGD101I SMS 
ALLOCATED TO DDNAME (SORTIN  )
DSN (SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108165)
STORCLAS (WRKBATCH) MGMTCLAS () DATACLAS (EXT)
VOL SER NOS= PL0011
IGD17165I MULTI-VOLUME TEMPORARY DATA SET
SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166 WILL NOT BE STRIPED IGD101I SMS 
ALLOCATED TO DDNAME (SORTOUT )
DSN (SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166)
STORCLAS (WRKBATCH) MGMTCLAS () DATACLAS (EXT)
VOL SER NOS= PL0004

Lastly, here's the SMS definition for DATACLAS EXT.

Recfm  . . . . . . . . . :
Lrecl  . . . . . . . . . :
Override Space . . . . . : NO
Space Avgrec . . . . . . :
  Avg Value  . . . . :
  Primary  . . . . . :
  Secondary  . . . . :
  Directory  . . . . :
Retpd Or Expdt . . . . . :
Volume Count . . . . . . : 1
Add'l Volume Amount  . . :
Data Set Name Type  . . . . . : EXTENDED
  If Extended . . . . 

Re: AW: And the survey says...

[Gord Tomlin]

On 2021-04-30 07:11 AM, Michael Knigge wrote:

I've worked with PCOM, RUMBA, Nexus and Vista tn3270 And I felt in love 
with Vista tn3270.. Why?! You might roll your eyes, but it's the font. The 
first time I've installed Vista tn3270 I looked at it and no other 3270 
Emulator I've used so far provided a such great looking and great readable font.


I don't think this is a trivial consideration. I like the Vista fonts 
too. They are very legible and don't give me eyestrain. As a side 
benefit of this legibility, I can comfortably configure my window to 
show more lines of code.


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Re: Program invoked SORT, SMS managed //SORTOUT DD DSN=&&TEMP [EXTERNAL]

[PINION, RICHARD W.]

Doh!   Yep, that explains it.  Shame on me for not doing what you did.

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Maybe this will help.


IGD17165I  MULTI-VOLUME TEMPORARY DATA SET dsname WILL NOT BE STRIPED.

Explanation:   It is not possible to allocate a multi-volume temporary data set
in extended format. Due to technical reasons, is is not possible to create an 
NVR (non-VSAM volume record) for temporary data sets and the NVR contains 
crucial information for extended format and compressed data sets.

In the message text:

dsname
 The specified data set name.

System action:  The data set is allocated in non-extended format.

Programmer response:  This is an informational message. Allocation continues.

Source:   Data Facility Product (DFSMS)

Routing code:  2

Descriptor code:  4


Thanks..

Paul Feller
GTS Mainframe Technical Support

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Subject: Program invoked SORT, SMS managed //SORTOUT DD DSN=&&TEMP [EXTERNAL]

I have what is probably an elementary question.  I had a program invoked SORT 
ABEND with a SE37-08 on a SMS managed temporary SORTOUT dataset.  Here's the 
error stream.

11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR 
DATA SET  056
   056 SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166
11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17277I THERE ARE (80) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (46) ARE 
ENABLED OR QUIESCED
11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17290I THERE WERE 2 CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS OF WHICH THE 
FIRST 2  058
   058 WERE ELIGIBLE FOR VOLUME SELECTION.
   058 THE CANDIDATE STORAGE GROUPS WERE:PLARGE POVER
11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17279I 34 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT 
ONLINE
11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17279I 34 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THE UCB WAS NOT 
AVAILABLE
11.48.03 JOB16510  IGD17279I 46 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE OF A DADSM 
FAILURE (044E0097)
11.48.03 JOB16510  IEC614I EXTEND FAILED - RC 000, DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION IS 
(04034379) ,  062
   062 STEP070,  ,SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166
11.48.03 JOB16510  IEC032I 
E37-08,IFG0554P,EFM186DP,STEP070,SORTOUT,5E24,PL0004,04034379,  063
   063 SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166
11.48.03 JOB16510  IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  065
   065 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=E37  REASON CODE=0008
   065  TIME=11.48.03  SEQ=02755  CPU=  ASID=00B4
   065  PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  075C1000   80DF7A8E  ILC 2  INTC 0D
   065NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
   065NAME=UNKNOWN
   065DATA AT PSW  00DF7A88 - 41003038  0A0DB20A  00509808
   065AR/GR 0: 008FEA30/00DF7C9C   1: /A4E37000

Here's the JCL DD statements in question.

XX*
IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - SYSOUT=L,DCB=BLKSIZE=133
XXSORTINDD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,150,,CONTIG)
XXSORTOUT   DD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,150,,CONTIG)
XX*

Here's a part of the SMS allocation messages.

IGD17165I MULTI-VOLUME TEMPORARY DATA SET
SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108165 WILL NOT BE STRIPED IGD101I SMS 
ALLOCATED TO DDNAME (SORTIN  )
DSN (SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108165)
STORCLAS (WRKBATCH) MGMTCLAS () DATACLAS (EXT)
VOL SER NOS= PL0011
IGD17165I MULTI-VOLUME TEMPORARY DATA SET
SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166 WILL NOT BE STRIPED IGD101I SMS 
ALLOCATED TO DDNAME (SORTOUT )
DSN (SYS21120.T114450.RA000.EFM186DP.R0108166)
STORCLAS (WRKBATCH) MGMTCLAS () DATACLAS (EXT)
VOL SER NOS= PL0004

Lastly, here's the SMS definition for DATACLAS EXT.

Recfm  . . . . . . . . . :
Lrecl  . . . . . . . . . :
Override Space . . . . . : NO
Space Avgrec . . . . . . :
  Avg Value  . . . . :
  Primary  . . . . . :
  Secondary  . . . . :
  Directory  . . . . :
Retpd Or Expdt . . . . . :
Volume Count . . . . . . : 1
Add'l Volume Amount  . . :
Data Set Name Type  . . . . . : EXTENDED
  If Extended . . . . . . . . : PREFERRED
  Extended Addressability . . : YES
  Record Access Bias  . . . . : USER
  RMODE31 . . . . . . . . . . :
Space Constraint Relief . . . : YES
  Reduce Space Up To (%)  . . : 50
  Guaranteed Space Reduction  : NO
  Dynamic Volume Count  . . . : 59

Finally, my question/confusion.  Are not SMS managed temporary datasets 
eligible for mutli-volume allocation?
In other words, shouldn't this SMS managed temporary dataset 1) had greater 
than 16 extents on the volume since it is an extended dataset, and
2) shouldn't the dataset have extended to another volume?
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Re: Syntax for calling a program from REXX with parm

[Bob Bridges]

I went at it systematically:

 
++--
---+
  + address LINKMVS '',''   | Error running , line
: Unexpected "," or ")"  |
 
++--
---+
  + address LINKMVS ',' | RC -3 (routine not found)
|
 
++--
---+
  + address LINKMVS ' ' | RC -2 (I don't see this
documented), no program output  |
  + address LINKMVS '' ''   |
|
 
++--
---+

Then I tried it your way, assigning the parm string to PARM and running
this:

 
++--
---+
  + address LINKMVS ' PARM'   | That's what I wanted.
|
 
++--
---+

Thanks, Shmuel.

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Seymour J Metz
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 15:02

You need the LINKMVS or ATTCHMVS environment. The syntax is

 ADDRESS environment command

The first word of the command is the program name. Subsequent words are the
names of parameter. Example:

 foo = MYPROGRAM
 bar = MYPARM MYDDNAMES
 myparm = 'TRACE=NO'
 myddnames = 'ALTPRINTALTIN'
 ADDRESS LINKMVS FOO BAR

If novalue is enabled then you will need quotes (' or ") in the first two
statements.


From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
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Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 2:34 PM

I know I've done this before, but I'm having trouble doing something that
most of you will say should be simple.  I have some JCL that executes a
program in batch, and I want to create a REXX that does it in the foreground
- allocates the datasets, runs the program, then fetches the output and
displays it in View.  The program requires something in the PARM, and I'm
having trouble remembering the syntax for that.  Here's what I've tried:

 
+---+---
-+
  + call ','   | Error running , line :
Routine not found |
 
+---+---
-+
  + address LINK ','   | RC -3 (routine not found)
|
 
+---+---
-+
  + '',''  | Error running , line :
Unexpected "," or ")" |
  + address LINK '','' |
|
 
+---+---
-+
  + call ' '   | Error running , line :
Incorrect call to routine |
  + call '' '' |
|
  + call '','' |
|
 
+---+---
-+
  + ' '| Program returns RC and complains it
can't see the PARM.|
  + ','|
|
  + '' ''  |
|
  + address LINK ' '   |
|
  + address LINK '' '' |
|
 
+---+---
-+

Unless I go to LINKMVS or LINKPGM (and I don't know what those are for), I
think I've used up all the possible combinations.  What am I missing?

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Re: And the survey says...

[Seymour J Metz]

Can you do both a linear copy and a block copy?


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On 2021-04-29 13:05 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> Alas, the screenshot-as-text is the $FeatureX apparently absent
> from the $EmulatorY modally favored in this thread.

I'm going to ASSume that "the $EmulatorY modally favored in this thread"
refers to Vista. With Vista, you can copy/paste any portion of the
contents of the screen as text (including the entire screen if desired),
which IMHO is much better than a screenshot tool that unconditionally
copies the entire screen contents.

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Re: And the survey says...

[Gord Tomlin]

On 2021-04-30 17:04 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

Can you do both a linear copy and a block copy?


Any rectangular selection.

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Re: And the survey says...

[Seymour J Metz]

What about a linear copy?


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On 2021-04-30 17:04 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> Can you do both a linear copy and a block copy?

Any rectangular selection.

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Re: And the survey says...

[Charles Mills]

Here's an example of a block copy in Vista. What's a linear copy? You mean,
without regard to line endings? No, I don't think so. You could certainly
use your favorite stream-oriented editor to remove the line endings.

  Menu  Utilities  Compilers  O
---
   ISPF
Option ===>
   
0  Settings  Terminal and u
1  View  Display source
2  Edit  Create or chan
3  Utilities Perform utilit

Charles


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What about a linear copy?

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Re: And the survey says...

[Seymour J Metz]

Linea meaning wrapping, i.e., copying consequtive buffer locations without 
regard to line boundaries. Both block and linear copies are useful, and it's 
nice to have both.


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Here's an example of a block copy in Vista. What's a linear copy? You mean,
without regard to line endings? No, I don't think so. You could certainly
use your favorite stream-oriented editor to remove the line endings.

  Menu  Utilities  Compilers  O
---
   ISPF
Option ===>

0  Settings  Terminal and u
1  View  Display source
2  Edit  Create or chan
3  Utilities Perform utilit

Charles


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What about a linear copy?

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Flashcopy for Non-SMS volume backup?

[Ed Jaffe]

To all Storage Management Gurus on IBM-MAIN:

What is the "best practice" procedure for creating a fast-replication 
(flashcopy) Non-SMS volume backup?


FRBACKUP makes it easy for SMS-managed volumes...

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Re: And the survey says...

[Jesse 1 Robinson]

I can't promise that Vista has all the functions discussed in this thread, but 
in the years that I've used it, I've seen Tom add a lot of new variations. I 
suggest that curious cats spend a few minutes exploring the 'Paste Functions' 
enumerated under the Edit menu. Several of those were provided to handle 
unusual situations that are not strictly 'editing' but rather a means of 
transferring data displayed by one App into another possible unrelated App. 
These functions are possible because 'copy' takes some part of a delineated 
display, strips out all formatting indicators, and (re)builds a 'paste' buffer 
according to the requirements of the function being invoked. If it doesn't work 
as desired, Tom is famous for implementing new function. 

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Linea meaning wrapping, i.e., copying consequtive buffer locations without 
regard to line boundaries. Both block and linear copies are useful, and it's 
nice to have both.


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Subject: Re: And the survey says...

Here's an example of a block copy in Vista. What's a linear copy? You mean, 
without regard to line endings? No, I don't think so. You could certainly use 
your favorite stream-oriented editor to remove the line endings.

  Menu  Utilities  Compilers  O
---
   ISPF
Option ===>

0  Settings  Terminal and u
1  View  Display source
2  Edit  Create or chan
3  Utilities Perform utilit

Charles


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What about a linear copy?


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Re: And the survey says...

[Tom Brennan]

That's true about the features, I only implemented a subset of 
possibilities, and mostly that's on purpose.  For example, there's no 
FTP, minimal IND$FILE, no HLLAPI, no GDDM (although I did try once with 
help from the 3270 stream master, Greg Price).  No SNA printing, no 
5250, and just enough standard telnet to hopefully get you through a 
firewall.  No 3290 partitions.  No linear Copy, only block.


Tabs (mentioned here), I would like to do, but because of the single 
(giant) internal control block I used it's pretty difficult.  So I keep 
saying I'll do that, "tomorrow".


For fonts, I chose old style bitmapped (raster) fonts because at the 
time with Win 3.1 and small screens True-Types were difficult to read. 
So I spent many weeks each evening with my wife coming home from work 
wondering why I'm clicking dots in a font editor.  Anyone can have those 
fonts if you want (just email me), but they are useless unless the 
emulator has a bitmap font option - rare these days I would think.  I do 
have a True-Type version that I offer to folks in cases where the bitmap 
fonts are too limiting.


Sorry to steal your post Skip :)  I'm trying to avoid replying here 
because I don't want it to look like a promotion.


On 4/30/2021 4:48 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:

I can't promise that Vista has all the functions discussed in this thread, but 
in the years that I've used it, I've seen Tom add a lot of new variations. I 
suggest that curious cats spend a few minutes exploring the 'Paste Functions' 
enumerated under the Edit menu. Several of those were provided to handle 
unusual situations that are not strictly 'editing' but rather a means of 
transferring data displayed by one App into another possible unrelated App. 
These functions are possible because 'copy' takes some part of a delineated 
display, strips out all formatting indicators, and (re)builds a 'paste' buffer 
according to the requirements of the function being invoked. If it doesn't work 
as desired, Tom is famous for implementing new function.

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Linea meaning wrapping, i.e., copying consequtive buffer locations without 
regard to line boundaries. Both block and linear copies are useful, and it's 
nice to have both.


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Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org]
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Here's an example of a block copy in Vista. What's a linear copy? You mean, 
without regard to line endings? No, I don't think so. You could certainly use 
your favorite stream-oriented editor to remove the line endings.

   Menu  Utilities  Compilers  O
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ISPF
Option ===>

0  Settings  Terminal and u
1  View  Display source
2  Edit  Create or chan
3  Utilities Perform utilit

Charles


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What about a linear copy?


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