Re: [GNC] "House" in account name

[Robert Heller]

"Gratuitous" eye-candy?

At Sat, 7 Dec 2024 17:12:57 -0600 David Carlson  
wrote:

>
> I think that symbol is supposed to look like a bank building from the
> past.  Reports get a different symbol that might look like a graph if you
> have a magnifying glass.
>
> On Sat, Dec 7, 2024 at 4:20 PM Maf. King  wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, 7 December 2024 22:05:59 GMT Fred Tydeman wrote:
> > > In looking at my chart of accounts, why does every account name have a
> > > little
> > > "house" in front of the name?
> > >
> >
> > Do you know, I'd never consciously noticed them!  Presume it is shorthand
> > for
> > "account", possibly a hang over from the early days when maybe there was a
> > plan to have diferent icons for different types?  (total guess)
> >
> > Maf.
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[GNC] Newbie

[Mike Evans]

I am switching from a desktop pc to a windows 11 laptop and cannot get it to 
work. The program downloaded but I dont know how to move the files to the new 
location. Can anyone walk me through this. I am not very computer literate. 
Mike

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Re: [GNC] Newbie

[Murugan Mariappan]

Mike

In the PC search where you have stored the .gnucash files.  it should have a 
series of files (the latest and earlier backups). Copy the whole folder to your 
laptop.  Now open the file you have copied in laptop from Gnucash open file 
menu.






Saludos Cordiales


Murugan


From: gnucash-user 
 on behalf of Mike 
Evans 
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Subject: [GNC] Newbie

I am switching from a desktop pc to a windows 11 laptop and cannot get it to 
work. The program downloaded but I dont know how to move the files to the new 
location. Can anyone walk me through this. I am not very computer literate.
Mike

Sent from my iPad
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Re: [GNC] sparkasse Status: error (11)

[John Ralls]

You really will get better support on gnucash-de for FinTS problems, there are 
many more participants there with direct experience of FinTS than there are 
here.

That said, one possibility is that you need the features in AQBanking 
6.5.12beta. Since it’s beta we haven’t been installing it in GnuCash releases 
but it is in the nightly Flatpak and Microsoft Windows builds that you can 
download from https://code,gnucash.org/builds. If you’re not familiar with 
flatpaks you might find https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak helpful.

While Derek is correct that a signal 11 is a segmentation violation on Unix 
systems, one of those would crash the program, not produce a message like the 
one you reported. "Fehler beim Ausführen des Auftrages.” doesn’t appear in the 
German translation files for GnuCash, AQBanking, or Gwenhywfar, so I guess that 
it’s coming from the bank. Perhaps someone on gnucash-de will recognize it and 
be able to explain the problem to you.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Dec 7, 2024, at 09:00, Benthos via gnucash-user  
> wrote:
> 
> Sorry for flipping to German and thank you for your answer.
> - I use GnuCash
> - Hibiscus is https://www.willuhn.de/products/hibiscus/
> -> works more straight forward
> - Bank Url
> https://banking-sh1.s-fints-pt-sh.de:443/fints30
> 
> 
> Am 07.12.24 um 17:48 schrieb Derek Atkins:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On Sat, December 7, 2024 9:42 am, Benthos via gnucash-user wrote:
>>> Hallo liebe Gruppe,
>>> 
>>> seit März 2024 kann ich meine Daten nicht mehr bei der Fördesparkasse
>>> Kiel abrufen.
>>> 
>>> Fehler beim Ausführen des Auftrages.
>>> Status: error (11)
>>> 
>>> Ich habe mir seit dem mit Hibiscus beholfen, da ich davon ausgegangen
>>> bin, dass es beim nächsten Update wieder geht. Aber das ist leider nicht
>>> so.
>>> 
>>> Gibt es vielleicht Abhilfe?
>>> Danke Ben
>> You have reached the English-speaking "gnucash-user" list.
>> Based on Google Translate, it sounds like you're having an issue with
>> downloading transactions from a bank?  But it is unclear what protocol you
>> are trying to use.
>> Error 11 means Segmentation Violation, which means there is some code
>> problem, but it's unclear, without more information, what piece of
>> software is involved.
>> I have no idea what "Hibiscus" is.
>> 
>> If you need help in German, I recommend you subscribe to and contact
>> gnucash...@gnucash.org.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
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Re: [GNC] Accounting for Income and Expenses from Multiple Business Locations

[Gary Kulp]

Thanks for this detailed response, Jim.  Indeed I'm trying to imitate the 
Quicken "Class" field, which I believe is the same as a tag.  I'll delve into 
the matter Monday.  I appreciate the kind welcome and advice.



Sincerely...Gary Kulp











 On Sat, 07 Dec 2024 17:17:24 -0600 Jim DeLaHunt  
wrote ---



Hello, Gary, and welcome to GnuCash!

On 2024-12-07 12:45, Gary Kulp wrote:
> I'd be appreciative if someone could illustrate how to account for income and 
> expenses from multiple business locations

Firstly, let me acquaint you with a clarifying question that appears 
frequently on the gnucash-user list. Are you asking for accounting 
advice, or how to implement an accounting approach using GnuCash?

For accounting advice, the answer depends on what information you are 
trying to capture, what the rules are about taxes and reporting in your 
jurisdiction, and the accumulated wisdom of accounting experts; and how 
all the above applies to your specific situation. An internet-wide email 
list has a hard time doing justice to that. You will get better 
accounting advice from an expert who can ask about your situation and 
who knows your jurisdiction, than you will from GnuCash user.

Secondly, one obvious accounting approach is "tags": have a chart of 
accounts like you give in your example, with income breakdowns and 
expense breakdowns (called "accounts" in GnuCash), and then apply a 
"tag" to each transaction which indicates the city to which that 
transaction applies.  This gives you a two-dimensional information 
structure: you can report by income or expense account to get answers 
for all cities, or filter by tag to get results for a single city.

GnuCash has no direct support for tags on transactions.

You can find out about past discussions on the subject in various places:

 * "[GNC] The equivalent for Quicken Tag" thread, from gnucash-user
 list archives, April 2024,
 
 * "Gnucash: Tags/ Multi-category" Q&A from Personal Finance
 StackExchange (Note: I
 have not reviewed these answers, they just looked relevant in a web
 search)
 * "Custom Reports for GnuCash 5.x", code for GnuCash reports which
 approximate Tags behaviour
  (Note: I have
 not used or even reviewed these reports, so I can't vouch for them
 as useful or not)

Thirdly, without approximating tags, the obvious way to implement 
accounting for different salons in different cities, or different 
projects in general, is to layer the cities into the income and expense 
breakdowns. You might end up with an account structure like:



Income
  Haircuts
          Dallas
      Los Angeles
      New York
      San Francisco
      Seattle

  Hair Coloring
          Dallas
      Los Angeles
      New York
      San Francisco
      Seattle

  Product Sales
          Dallas
      Los Angeles
      New York
      San Francisco
      Seattle


Expenses
  Rent
          Dallas
      Los Angeles
      New York
      San Francisco
      Seattle

  Utilities
          Dallas
      Los Angeles
      New York
      San Francisco
      Seattle

  Cost of Goods Sold
   Shampoo
              Dallas
          Los Angeles
          New York
          San Francisco
          Seattle

   Scissor Sharpening
              Dallas
          Los Angeles
          New York
          San Francisco
          Seattle

   Hair Coloring Product
              Dallas
          Los Angeles
          New York
          San Francisco
          Seattle

  Sub-contractor Wages
          Dallas
      Los Angeles
      New York
      San Francisco
      Seattle

Then you can define a GnuCash custom report which selects just the 
accounts relevant to one location, to get the breakdown of activity for 
that location; and another report which selects the income and expense 
breakdown parent accounts, to get activity for all locations.

Information about defining custom reports is in the GnuCash Manual and 
in the Tutorial and Concepts Guide. I recommend you giving those a read.

Best regards,
  —Jim DeLaHunt

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Re: [GNC] "House" in account name

[Ed Greenberg]

It kind of looks like a bank - or other traditional architecture for a 
financial institution.  I never noticed it before. Just thought of it 
like a bullet point.  Ed


On 12/7/24 17:19, Maf. King wrote:

On Saturday, 7 December 2024 22:05:59 GMT Fred Tydeman wrote:

In looking at my chart of accounts, why does every account name have a
little
"house" in front of the name?


Do you know, I'd never consciously noticed them!  Presume it is shorthand for
"account", possibly a hang over from the early days when maybe there was a
plan to have diferent icons for different types?  (total guess)

Maf.


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[GNC] CSV importer Debet/Credit issue

[Koos Pol]

Hi,

The CSV importer *almost* works. The statements from my bank has:
- one column for the amount. The amount is always positive.
- one column have the entries "Debet" or "Credit" to indicate the 
direction of the tx.


Here are a few sample rows:
"01-01-2024","38,10","Debet",...
"11-01-2024","241,58","Credit",...
"23-01-2024","43,35","Debet",...
"11-02-2024","241,58","Credit",...
"06-03-2024","384,95","Debet",...

Is there any way to have the importer grok this? The "Action" column 
didn't work.


Thanks!
Koos

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Re: [GNC] Accounting for Income and Expenses from Multiple Business Locations

[Stephen M. Butler]

Are there intra-city transactions?  If not, the simple solution is to 
have one set of books per store.  However, that does make it hard to 
roll up to a grand total for the entire business.


The next approach would be to have a high-level account for each 
location within ASSETS, LIABILITIES, EQUITY, INCOME, and EXPENSES. That 
way you could generate a report for each location and then another one 
for all locations.


On 12/7/24 12:45, Gary Kulp wrote:

Hello,



I'd be appreciative if someone could illustrate how to account for income and 
expenses from multiple business locations.  For example, if I were to account 
for five hair salons in five cities, I would need to account for the following 
in each city using GNU Cash.



Income

      Haircuts

      Hair Coloring

      Product Sales



Expenses

      Rent

      Utilities

      Cost of Goods Sold

           Shampoo

           Scissor Sharpening

           Hair Coloring Product

      Sub-contractor Wages







Locations:

      Dallas

      Los Angeles

      New York

      San Francisco

      Seattle



Thanks...Gary
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Re: [GNC] CSV importer Debet/Credit issue

[Stephen M. Butler]

In my experience you will need to have a pre-process to massage the data 
to make a debit column and a credit column.  Or split the file into two 
files, one with the credits and another one with the debits.  Each file 
would need a lightly different mapping for the amount column.  Be sure 
to save the configuration so it will be easy to use the next time.


Stephen M Butler
stephen.m.butle...@gmail.com
kg...@arrl.net
253-350-0166
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On 12/7/24 12:01, Koos Pol wrote:

Hi,

The CSV importer *almost* works. The statements from my bank has:
- one column for the amount. The amount is always positive.
- one column have the entries "Debet" or "Credit" to indicate the 
direction of the tx.


Here are a few sample rows:
"01-01-2024","38,10","Debet",...
"11-01-2024","241,58","Credit",...
"23-01-2024","43,35","Debet",...
"11-02-2024","241,58","Credit",...
"06-03-2024","384,95","Debet",...

Is there any way to have the importer grok this? The "Action" column 
didn't work.


Thanks!
Koos

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[GNC] sparkasse Status: error (11)

[Benthos via gnucash-user]

Hallo liebe Gruppe,

seit März 2024 kann ich meine Daten nicht mehr bei der Fördesparkasse 
Kiel abrufen.


Fehler beim Ausführen des Auftrages.
Status: error (11)

Ich habe mir seit dem mit Hibiscus beholfen, da ich davon ausgegangen 
bin, dass es beim nächsten Update wieder geht. Aber das ist leider nicht so.


Gibt es vielleicht Abhilfe?
Danke Ben

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[GNC] Python bindings broken?

[Thomas Klausner]

Hi!

I’m using Gnucash 5.9 on NetBSD with Python 3.13.1.
I have a script that I run every half a year or so, and I ran it again today, 
and it didn’t work.
The last time I ran it (successfully) was in April, so with Gnucash 5.6 and 
Python 3.12, I think.

The symptoms are that:
- The root account has no children or descendants 
- Ending the session doesn’t remove the “.LCK” file.

I’ve simplified the script to the following:



#!/usr/bin/env python3

  import gnucash


  session = gnucash.Session("test.gnucash")
  root_account = session.book.get_root_account()
  for child in root_account.get_children():
  print(child.GetName())
  for child in root_account.get_descendants():
  print(child.GetName())
  session.end()


It should iterate over all accounts and print all of their names (once using 
get_children(), once using get_descendants()). I only tried get_descendants() 
because get_children() didn’t work.

Does this work for others (with Python 3.13?) or is this currently broken?

Any ideas what the problem could be or how to debug this?

Thanks,
 Thomas

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[GNC] Credit Notes

[Geoff Jankowski via gnucash-user]

Hi

Am I missing something?  I have used the credit note dialog to generate a 
credit note but when I go to the account payable and right click on it, there 
is no option to assign or edit it as a payment.

When I search on google I just get the Wiki page on credit notes that appears 
to be dated from 2012!  It explains the difficulties of managing credit notes 
but does not explain how to use them.

Following standard procedure there is no way to allocate the credit note as a 
“payment” without entering unwanted (and fictitious) entries to the bank 
ledger.  However, this means both the credit note and its associated invoice 
keep appearing in the unpaid bills dialog which is a nuisance with one but a 
nightmare with several!

Absolutely by chance I went to the credit note that had been posted and tried 
once more to pay it.  For some reason I accidentally managed to select both the 
bill and the credit note so that both were highlighted.  At the same time this 
greyed out the account structure tree and I was able to pay the two items at 
the same time without entering anything to any other ledger.  Both are now 
cleared from the unpaid bills listing and two entries have appeared in the 
account as shown below:




The ledger balances and the invoice and credit note are both marked as Paid.

I assume this is how I am meant to do it but I cannot find it documented 
anywhere unless, as I started this message, I am missing something?

Interestingly, the credit note still does not allow me to edit the payment.  
However, both of the Lot Link entries do! (So presumably I can undo and redo it 
if there was an error).

Is it documented somewhere how to use credit notes now or not?  And is this the 
right approach (because it works)?



Geoff 







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[GNC] Accounting for Income and Expenses from Multiple Business Locations

[Gary Kulp]

Hello,



I'd be appreciative if someone could illustrate how to account for income and 
expenses from multiple business locations.  For example, if I were to account 
for five hair salons in five cities, I would need to account for the following 
in each city using GNU Cash.



Income

     Haircuts

     Hair Coloring

     Product Sales



Expenses

     Rent

     Utilities

     Cost of Goods Sold

          Shampoo

          Scissor Sharpening

          Hair Coloring Product

     Sub-contractor Wages







Locations:

     Dallas

     Los Angeles

     New York

     San Francisco

     Seattle



Thanks...Gary
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Re: [GNC] Credit Notes

[Geert Janssens]

Hi Geoff,

That is the correct way to use credit notes.

In the payment dialog you should select all documents and outstanding payments 
that 
should be evaluated together. If the balance of all these selected items is is 
non-zero, you 
can assign that balance to a payment account to fully pay all the selected 
items.

In the most simple case of paying an invoice, only one item would be selected 
in the list 
for you by gnucash, but for more complex payment scenarios (like using a credit 
note to 
offset (part of) an invoice) you have to select the whole of what you want to 
process 
yourself.

If the set of items you selected has a zero balance, there is no need to select 
a payment 
account as there's no additional money changing accounts any more.

I don't know if this is fully documented somewhere.

Regards,

Geert

Op zaterdag 7 december 2024 16:49:37 CET schreef Geoff Jankowski via 
gnucash-user:
> Hi
> 
> Am I missing something?  I have used the credit note dialog to generate a
> credit note but when I go to the account payable and right click on it,
> there is no option to assign or edit it as a payment.
> 
> When I search on google I just get the Wiki page on credit notes that
> appears to be dated from 2012!  It explains the difficulties of managing
> credit notes but does not explain how to use them.
> 
> Following standard procedure there is no way to allocate the credit note as
> a “payment” without entering unwanted (and fictitious) entries to the bank
> ledger.  However, this means both the credit note and its associated
> invoice keep appearing in the unpaid bills dialog which is a nuisance with
> one but a nightmare with several!
> 
> Absolutely by chance I went to the credit note that had been posted and
> tried once more to pay it.  For some reason I accidentally managed to
> select both the bill and the credit note so that both were highlighted.  At
> the same time this greyed out the account structure tree and I was able to
> pay the two items at the same time without entering anything to any other
> ledger.  Both are now cleared from the unpaid bills listing and two entries
> have appeared in the account as shown below:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The ledger balances and the invoice and credit note are both marked as Paid.
> 
> I assume this is how I am meant to do it but I cannot find it documented
> anywhere unless, as I started this message, I am missing something?
> 
> Interestingly, the credit note still does not allow me to edit the payment. 
> However, both of the Lot Link entries do! (So presumably I can undo and
> redo it if there was an error).
> 
> Is it documented somewhere how to use credit notes now or not?  And is this
> the right approach (because it works)?
> 
> 
> 
> Geoff
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [GNC] Python bindings broken?

[Thomas Klausner]

Hi Geert!

Thank you. Adding a session.load() fixed the problem I was seeing.
 Thomas

On Sat, Dec 07, 2024 at 05:16:36PM +0100, Geert Janssens wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I think you need to add a session.load() call in between creating the session 
> and getting 
> the root account.
> 
> There were other questions about this on the list. You may find more details 
> searching the 
> list history.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Geert
> 
> Op zaterdag 7 december 2024 15:38:55 CET schreef Thomas Klausner:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > I’m using Gnucash 5.9 on NetBSD with Python 3.13.1.
> > I have a script that I run every half a year or so, and I ran it again
> > today, and it didn’t work. The last time I ran it (successfully) was in
> > April, so with Gnucash 5.6 and Python 3.12, I think.
> > 
> > The symptoms are that:
> > - The root account has no children or descendants
> > - Ending the session doesn’t remove the “.LCK” file.
> > 
> > I’ve simplified the script to the following:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > #!/usr/bin/env python3
> > 
> >   import gnucash
> > 
> > 
> >   session = gnucash.Session("test.gnucash")
> >   root_account = session.book.get_root_account()
> >   for child in root_account.get_children():
> >   print(child.GetName())
> >   for child in root_account.get_descendants():
> >   print(child.GetName())
> >   session.end()
> > 
> > 
> > It should iterate over all accounts and print all of their names (once using
> > get_children(), once using get_descendants()). I only tried
> > get_descendants() because get_children() didn’t work.
> > 
> > Does this work for others (with Python 3.13?) or is this currently broken?
> > 
> > Any ideas what the problem could be or how to debug this?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> >  Thomas
> > 
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Re: [GNC] sparkasse Status: error (11)

[Benthos via gnucash-user]

Sorry for flipping to German and thank you for your answer.
- I use GnuCash
- Hibiscus is https://www.willuhn.de/products/hibiscus/
    -> works more straight forward
- Bank Url
https://banking-sh1.s-fints-pt-sh.de:443/fints30


Am 07.12.24 um 17:48 schrieb Derek Atkins:

Hi,

On Sat, December 7, 2024 9:42 am, Benthos via gnucash-user wrote:

Hallo liebe Gruppe,

seit März 2024 kann ich meine Daten nicht mehr bei der Fördesparkasse
Kiel abrufen.

Fehler beim Ausführen des Auftrages.
Status: error (11)

Ich habe mir seit dem mit Hibiscus beholfen, da ich davon ausgegangen
bin, dass es beim nächsten Update wieder geht. Aber das ist leider nicht
so.

Gibt es vielleicht Abhilfe?
Danke Ben

You have reached the English-speaking "gnucash-user" list.
Based on Google Translate, it sounds like you're having an issue with
downloading transactions from a bank?  But it is unclear what protocol you
are trying to use.
Error 11 means Segmentation Violation, which means there is some code
problem, but it's unclear, without more information, what piece of
software is involved.
I have no idea what "Hibiscus" is.

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gnucash...@gnucash.org.

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Re: [GNC] "House" in account name

[Maf. King]

On Saturday, 7 December 2024 22:05:59 GMT Fred Tydeman wrote:
> In looking at my chart of accounts, why does every account name have a
> little
> "house" in front of the name?
>

Do you know, I'd never consciously noticed them!  Presume it is shorthand for 
"account", possibly a hang over from the early days when maybe there was a 
plan to have diferent icons for different types?  (total guess)

Maf.


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[GNC] "House" in account name

[Fred Tydeman]

In looking at my chart of accounts, why does every account name have a
little
"house" in front of the name?
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Re: [GNC] Python bindings broken?

[Geert Janssens]

Hi,

I think you need to add a session.load() call in between creating the session 
and getting 
the root account.

There were other questions about this on the list. You may find more details 
searching the 
list history.

Regards,

Geert

Op zaterdag 7 december 2024 15:38:55 CET schreef Thomas Klausner:
> Hi!
> 
> I’m using Gnucash 5.9 on NetBSD with Python 3.13.1.
> I have a script that I run every half a year or so, and I ran it again
> today, and it didn’t work. The last time I ran it (successfully) was in
> April, so with Gnucash 5.6 and Python 3.12, I think.
> 
> The symptoms are that:
> - The root account has no children or descendants
> - Ending the session doesn’t remove the “.LCK” file.
> 
> I’ve simplified the script to the following:
> 
> 
> 
> #!/usr/bin/env python3
> 
>   import gnucash
> 
> 
>   session = gnucash.Session("test.gnucash")
>   root_account = session.book.get_root_account()
>   for child in root_account.get_children():
>   print(child.GetName())
>   for child in root_account.get_descendants():
>   print(child.GetName())
>   session.end()
> 
> 
> It should iterate over all accounts and print all of their names (once using
> get_children(), once using get_descendants()). I only tried
> get_descendants() because get_children() didn’t work.
> 
> Does this work for others (with Python 3.13?) or is this currently broken?
> 
> Any ideas what the problem could be or how to debug this?
> 
> Thanks,
>  Thomas
> 
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Re: [GNC] Newbie

[Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user]

On 12/7/2024 1:23 PM, Mike Evans wrote:

I am switching from a desktop pc to a windows 11 laptop and cannot get it to 
work. The program downloaded but I dont know how to move the files to the new 
location. Can anyone walk me through this. I am not very computer literate.
Mike

Your problem is NOT just your gnucash data. How about all your 
documents, your pictures, your bookmarks, etc. etc. Instead of trying to 
do data bit by bit, consider moving ALL of your user data at once?


a) What OS was your desktop running under?

b) It is easiest if you keep the same user name.

c) I have no knowledge of MS Windows 11, in particular, what DATA 
storage differences say from Windows 10. But IF you were using 10 non 
the desktop AND not structural changes, you would be able to copy over 
your entire USER directory (if you  have a big enough USB drive)


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] "House" in account name

[David Carlson]

I think that symbol is supposed to look like a bank building from the
past.  Reports get a different symbol that might look like a graph if you
have a magnifying glass.

On Sat, Dec 7, 2024 at 4:20 PM Maf. King  wrote:

> On Saturday, 7 December 2024 22:05:59 GMT Fred Tydeman wrote:
> > In looking at my chart of accounts, why does every account name have a
> > little
> > "house" in front of the name?
> >
>
> Do you know, I'd never consciously noticed them!  Presume it is shorthand
> for
> "account", possibly a hang over from the early days when maybe there was a
> plan to have diferent icons for different types?  (total guess)
>
> Maf.
>
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Re: [GNC] Accounting for Income and Expenses from Multiple Business Locations

[Jim DeLaHunt]

Hello, Gary, and welcome to GnuCash!

On 2024-12-07 12:45, Gary Kulp wrote:

I'd be appreciative if someone could illustrate how to account for income and 
expenses from multiple business locations


Firstly, let me acquaint you with a clarifying question that appears 
frequently on the gnucash-user list. Are you asking for accounting 
advice, or how to implement an accounting approach using GnuCash?


For accounting advice, the answer depends on what information you are 
trying to capture, what the rules are about taxes and reporting in your 
jurisdiction, and the accumulated wisdom of accounting experts; and how 
all the above applies to your specific situation. An internet-wide email 
list has a hard time doing justice to that. You will get better 
accounting advice from an expert who can ask about your situation and 
who knows your jurisdiction, than you will from GnuCash user.


Secondly, one obvious accounting approach is "tags": have a chart of 
accounts like you give in your example, with income breakdowns and 
expense breakdowns (called "accounts" in GnuCash), and then apply a 
"tag" to each transaction which indicates the city to which that 
transaction applies.  This gives you a two-dimensional information 
structure: you can report by income or expense account to get answers 
for all cities, or filter by tag to get results for a single city.


GnuCash has no direct support for tags on transactions.

You can find out about past discussions on the subject in various places:

 * "[GNC] The equivalent for Quicken Tag" thread, from gnucash-user
   list archives, April 2024,
   
 * "Gnucash: Tags/ Multi-category" Q&A from Personal Finance
   StackExchange (Note: I
   have not reviewed these answers, they just looked relevant in a web
   search)
 * "Custom Reports for GnuCash 5.x", code for GnuCash reports which
   approximate Tags behaviour
    (Note: I have
   not used or even reviewed these reports, so I can't vouch for them
   as useful or not)

Thirdly, without approximating tags, the obvious way to implement 
accounting for different salons in different cities, or different 
projects in general, is to layer the cities into the income and expense 
breakdowns. You might end up with an account structure like:




Income
 Haircuts
         Dallas
     Los Angeles
     New York
     San Francisco
     Seattle

 Hair Coloring
         Dallas
     Los Angeles
     New York
     San Francisco
     Seattle

 Product Sales
         Dallas
     Los Angeles
     New York
     San Francisco
     Seattle


Expenses
 Rent
         Dallas
     Los Angeles
     New York
     San Francisco
     Seattle

 Utilities
         Dallas
     Los Angeles
     New York
     San Francisco
     Seattle

 Cost of Goods Sold
  Shampoo
             Dallas
         Los Angeles
         New York
         San Francisco
         Seattle

  Scissor Sharpening
             Dallas
         Los Angeles
         New York
         San Francisco
         Seattle

  Hair Coloring Product
             Dallas
         Los Angeles
         New York
         San Francisco
         Seattle

 Sub-contractor Wages
         Dallas
     Los Angeles
     New York
     San Francisco
     Seattle

Then you can define a GnuCash custom report which selects just the 
accounts relevant to one location, to get the breakdown of activity for 
that location; and another report which selects the income and expense 
breakdown parent accounts, to get activity for all locations.


Information about defining custom reports is in the GnuCash Manual and 
in the Tutorial and Concepts Guide. I recommend you giving those a read.


Best regards,
 —Jim DeLaHunt

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Re: [GNC] sparkasse Status: error (11)

[Derek Atkins]

Hi,

On Sat, December 7, 2024 9:42 am, Benthos via gnucash-user wrote:
> Hallo liebe Gruppe,
>
> seit März 2024 kann ich meine Daten nicht mehr bei der Fördesparkasse
> Kiel abrufen.
>
> Fehler beim Ausführen des Auftrages.
> Status: error (11)
>
> Ich habe mir seit dem mit Hibiscus beholfen, da ich davon ausgegangen
> bin, dass es beim nächsten Update wieder geht. Aber das ist leider nicht
> so.
>
> Gibt es vielleicht Abhilfe?
> Danke Ben

You have reached the English-speaking "gnucash-user" list.
Based on Google Translate, it sounds like you're having an issue with
downloading transactions from a bank?  But it is unclear what protocol you
are trying to use.
Error 11 means Segmentation Violation, which means there is some code
problem, but it's unclear, without more information, what piece of
software is involved.
I have no idea what "Hibiscus" is.

If you need help in German, I recommend you subscribe to and contact
gnucash...@gnucash.org.

Thanks,

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Re: [GNC] "House" in account name

[R Losey]

On Sat, Dec 7, 2024 at 4:20 PM Maf. King  wrote:

> On Saturday, 7 December 2024 22:05:59 GMT Fred Tydeman wrote:
> > In looking at my chart of accounts, why does every account name have a
> > little
> > "house" in front of the name?
> >
>
> Do you know, I'd never consciously noticed them!  Presume it is shorthand
> for
> "account", possibly a hang over from the early days when maybe there was a
> plan to have diferent icons for different types?  (total guess)
>
> Maf.
>

I never noticed it, either... I'm glad I wasn't the only one!


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Re: [GNC] Accounting for Income and Expenses from Multiple Business Locations

[R Losey]

The simplest solution that occurred to me was to have a separate GnuCash
file for each location... perhaps reports can be copied to a spreadsheet
that you can then use for over-arching reports.


On Sat, Dec 7, 2024 at 2:46 PM Gary Kulp  wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
>
> I'd be appreciative if someone could illustrate how to account for income
> and expenses from multiple business locations.  For example, if I were to
> account for five hair salons in five cities, I would need to account for
> the following in each city using GNU Cash.
>
>
>
> Income
>
>  Haircuts
>
>  Hair Coloring
>
>  Product Sales
>
>
>
> Expenses
>
>  Rent
>
>  Utilities
>
>  Cost of Goods Sold
>
>   Shampoo
>
>   Scissor Sharpening
>
>   Hair Coloring Product
>
>  Sub-contractor Wages
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Locations:
>
>  Dallas
>
>  Los Angeles
>
>  New York
>
>  San Francisco
>
>  Seattle
>
>
>
> Thanks...Gary
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