Re: [GNC] Newbie trouble deleting transaction

2024-10-11 Thread R Losey
I have never had any issue with it... it's kind of like a prompt at a
terminal, waiting for input.

I'm impressed that you don't foresee ever making any manual entries...


On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 9:14 AM Paul-A via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Thanks Geoff and others for your replies... I don't see the point of a
> blank entry like that.  For bank accounts I expect to import data from
> external files, not do any manual entries, but maybe I'm naive.
>
> I guess I'm okay for now, except for a general feeling of uneasiness
> about the interface.  When doing something dumb, it wold be nice to get
> some kind of complaint.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 08, 2024 at 08:17:16AM +0200, Geoff Jankowski wrote:
> > Sorry,
> > Let me clarify. By last transaction in the register I mean the blank
> entry for the next input. This is the one that users cannot delete.
> >
> > Paul, let us know if you have sorted it or are still having problems.
> >
> > Geoff
> > +33 6 22 93 00 53
> > +44 7770 58 48 38
> >
> > > On 8 Oct 2024, at 05:53, Paul-A via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for all the replies... no popup, and no indication that
> anything
> > > happened or is supposed to.
> > >
> > > It is the last entry, showing today's date, maybe I should've clued
> into
> > > that, since I thought it was from a few days ago.
> > >
> > > Is it just my imagination then that I entered this, and it's just the
> > > normal user-interface waiting for data entry?
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Tue, Oct 08, 2024 at 06:00:23AM +1000, David Cousens wrote:
> > >> Geoff
> > >> Have no problem deleting the last transaction in a register at least
> on
> > >> 5.9 on Linux Mint, Don't ever remember having any problems deleting
> > >> transactions previously. There is a popup asking for confirmation of
> > >> deletion though. Paul do you get a popup confirmation window?  Is it
> > >> possible it is hidden?
> > >>
> > >> David Cousens
> > >>
> > >>> On Mon, 2024-10-07 at 08:24 +0200, Geoff Jankowski via gnucash-user
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> If it is the last entry in the register it cannot be deleted.
> > >>>
> > >>> If it has entries above and below it, you should be able to delete it
> > >>> and if you cannot, there is an issue.
> > >>>
> > >>> Geoff
> > >>> +33 6 22 93 00 53
> > >>> +44 7770 58 48 38
> > >>>
> >  On 7 Oct 2024, at 08:05, Paul-A via gnucash-user
> >   wrote:
> > 
> >  I've just started using gnucash, and have imported a few years
> >  worth of
> >  data successfully from a bank account.  Afterwards I manually
> >  entered
> >  two more transactions, where one is mistaken.
> > 
> >  I'd like to remove the mistake, but am unable to do so with either
> >  the Delete button or "Delete transaction" menu choice.  Shouldn't I
> >  at least get some error if something is failing?
> > 
> >  The transaction I'm removiing is blank except for a date.
> > 
> >  Am I missing something obvious or could something be wrong with my
> >  4.13 setup on Debian bookworm?
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Re: [GNC] Newbie trouble deleting transaction

2024-10-11 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi,

On Fri, October 11, 2024 10:13 am, Paul-A via gnucash-user wrote:
> Thanks Geoff and others for your replies... I don't see the point of a
> blank entry like that.  For bank accounts I expect to import data from
> external files, not do any manual entries, but maybe I'm naive.

I won't call you naive, but you're in the teeny tiny minuscule minority of
people who never enter transactions in by hand.  Most of us do enter them
by hand, at least some percentage of the time.

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Re: [GNC] Newbie trouble deleting transaction

2024-10-11 Thread Paul-A via gnucash-user
Thanks Geoff and others for your replies... I don't see the point of a
blank entry like that.  For bank accounts I expect to import data from
external files, not do any manual entries, but maybe I'm naive.

I guess I'm okay for now, except for a general feeling of uneasiness
about the interface.  When doing something dumb, it wold be nice to get
some kind of complaint.


On Tue, Oct 08, 2024 at 08:17:16AM +0200, Geoff Jankowski wrote:
> Sorry, 
> Let me clarify. By last transaction in the register I mean the blank entry 
> for the next input. This is the one that users cannot delete. 
> 
> Paul, let us know if you have sorted it or are still having problems. 
> 
> Geoff
> +33 6 22 93 00 53
> +44 7770 58 48 38
> 
> > On 8 Oct 2024, at 05:53, Paul-A via gnucash-user  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks for all the replies... no popup, and no indication that anything
> > happened or is supposed to.
> > 
> > It is the last entry, showing today's date, maybe I should've clued into
> > that, since I thought it was from a few days ago.
> > 
> > Is it just my imagination then that I entered this, and it's just the
> > normal user-interface waiting for data entry?
> > 
> > 
> >> On Tue, Oct 08, 2024 at 06:00:23AM +1000, David Cousens wrote:
> >> Geoff
> >> Have no problem deleting the last transaction in a register at least on
> >> 5.9 on Linux Mint, Don't ever remember having any problems deleting
> >> transactions previously. There is a popup asking for confirmation of
> >> deletion though. Paul do you get a popup confirmation window?  Is it
> >> possible it is hidden?
> >> 
> >> David Cousens
> >> 
> >>> On Mon, 2024-10-07 at 08:24 +0200, Geoff Jankowski via gnucash-user
> >>> wrote:
> >>> If it is the last entry in the register it cannot be deleted.
> >>> 
> >>> If it has entries above and below it, you should be able to delete it
> >>> and if you cannot, there is an issue.
> >>> 
> >>> Geoff
> >>> +33 6 22 93 00 53
> >>> +44 7770 58 48 38
> >>> 
>  On 7 Oct 2024, at 08:05, Paul-A via gnucash-user
>   wrote:
>  
>  I've just started using gnucash, and have imported a few years
>  worth of
>  data successfully from a bank account.  Afterwards I manually
>  entered
>  two more transactions, where one is mistaken.
>  
>  I'd like to remove the mistake, but am unable to do so with either
>  the Delete button or "Delete transaction" menu choice.  Shouldn't I
>  at least get some error if something is failing?
>  
>  The transaction I'm removiing is blank except for a date.
>  
>  Am I missing something obvious or could something be wrong with my
>  4.13 setup on Debian bookworm?
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Re: [GNC] Newbie trouble deleting transaction

2024-10-11 Thread Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user

On 10/11/2024 10:13 AM, Paul-A via gnucash-user wrote:

Thanks Geoff and others for your replies... I don't see the point of a
blank entry like that.  For bank accounts I expect to import data from
external files, not do any manual entries, but maybe I'm naive.


Well, since you are new to this.

SOME of us would be entering a transaction in the account "checking" 
every time we cut a check or initiate a transfer. The statement from the 
back would be used in the reconcile process, the dates there when 
cleared back at the bank, what has cleared and what's still outstanding, 
transactions the bank has that you don't, etc.


If you JUST enter what the bank has:

1) how do you spot that a check you wrote has not yet been deposited/cashed?

2) how do you know that somebody has snuck a small monthly automatic 
payment onto your account


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Newbie trouble deleting transaction

2024-10-11 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)


On 2024-10-11 07:39, Derek Atkins wrote:
> On Fri, October 11, 2024 10:13 am, Paul-A via gnucash-user wrote:
>> Thanks Geoff and others for your replies... I don't see the point of a
>> blank entry like that.  For bank accounts I expect to import data from
>> external files, not do any manual entries, but maybe I'm naive.

> I won't call you naive, but you're in the teeny tiny minuscule minority of
> people who never enter transactions in by hand.  Most of us do enter them
> by hand, at least some percentage of the time.

And many of us have no option, because our banks no longer offer
downloads of account activity in a form that GC can accept (or never did).

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com/
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[GNC] desparately seeking susan ... no, wait, that's wrong. desparately seeking docs. Yeah, that's it.

2024-10-11 Thread Chris Miller
Hi Folks, 

I have recently designed a spreadsheet to read the accounts list I get from 
QuickBooks, map the QuickBooks columns to GnuCash columns, and output a CSV for 
import. It works quite well. What I have learned is that account import is a 
rigid and brittle process; it will not accept much variability from the format 
of the same data as exported from GnuCash. As nearly as I can tell, it 
completely ignores the column headers, if it is told that they are there, and 
it cannot handle "tab separated values". None of this is a huge problem, since 
I can accommodate this rigidity. And, "forewarned is fore-armed", therefore I 
will simply assume that other imports are also going to be rigid, in spite of 
the rather elegant column mapper for transactions. "Transactions" looks like 
it's going to be dead simple. 

I am preparing to import "Customers and Vendors", "Bills and Invoices", and, of 
course, "Transactions". It is not clear how some of the QBK columns map to the 
GNC columns, although a lot of them are pretty self-evident. My imports are 
quite automatic, so I could easily "Guess and Check", since the cycles are 
pretty painless. For "Accounts", I was able to create some bogus accounts and 
see how they were represented on "export", which made it easy to map QBK 
columns to GNC columns. I don't seem to have that export option for any of the 
contact categories or trade account (A/R, A/P) categories, so I'm flying blind. 

Which raises the question, is there a place where the GNC columns are 
enumerated and described? I have looked at the various import procedures and I 
was able to gather what I believe is a comprehensive list of the GNC columns, 
but I would feel more secure if I could see these in a manual somewhere, with 
descriptions. Maybe there is even a QBK to GNC "cheat sheet" somewhere ... 

I also have a question about the referential integrity of the GNC data. For 
example, transactions usually have a "who", which would be a customer, vendor, 
or employee, in GNC parlance, ignoring that there are other relationships which 
don't fit these three, like Family, Gift recipients, Government, Partners, 
Benefactors/Patrons ... It there a "database" link that verifies that the "who" 
exists before the transaction is committed? What happens to historical data if 
one of these changes their name? Can I produce a report on a given vendor or 
customer that would work like a statement? Can I be sure that it includes all 
the transactions, meaning there is nothing sitting out in the periphery with a 
slightly misspelled "who"? Apparently Customer and Vendor reports center around 
trade accounts (A/R, A/P), and it is not yet clear to me what that means. 

These questions are best answered with reference to the documentation. I'm sure 
the answers already exist somewhere. 

Remember, I am a confused Quickbooks refugee, and I have been held captive 
there for thirty years, so I am looking to understand GNC in terms of 
Quickbooks. Be gentle. 

Thanks for the help, 
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Chris. 

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Q: > Why should I start my reply below the quoted text? 

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[GNC] How to handle the renaming of stocks

2024-10-11 Thread Megan Tilley
Hi everyone - another Investment question - probably procedural rather than
specifically a GnuCash 'problem'.

I have a number of stocks/shares that have produced dividends for
many years.

I have entered those stocks into GC as per the manual and from reading
other threads in this mailing list.

When I set them up:
#1 - I used Security Editor - to create a new Security, using the name,
stockcode/ symbol for the ASX, namespace STOCKS, ticked ONLINE QUOTES,
selected MULTIPLE - ASX.

#2 - I then set up the stock under the Brokerage Account in the Investment
Parent making sure that the Select security/currency was STOCK and the
security (ASX) code

#3 - I THINK I set up the stock account under the Trading Parent

Now the over-arching company group has decided to change the name of the
stock (specifically from SLK Sea Link to KLS Kelsian on the ASX) in 2021.

In my other programs, I could just edit the name entry as there is no
change to the holdings (amount and price remained the same) .

However, I can not seem to get GC to allow me to edit the Security name
(Security Editor) or the Trading name - which reflects all the purchases
during the "SLK era" which remains relevant to the new "now-KLS era".

Does this mean I have to re-enter all the data for the new KLS rather than
just change a name or field?


Thanks!


Megan in Sydney
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