Re: [GNC] Bank Balance Higher Than Actual

[Paul Roberts]

Since the invoice amount shows up in Accounts Receivable I will need to
investigate more closely to discover why the statement balance is so much
higher than the actual bank balances. One reason would be that someone is
stealing our money, but I find that quite hard to believe. The other
explanation is that I am not posting all our expenses. I guess I will keep
on searching for the answer.

Another way to take care of this is to reconcile the balances each month
and not just each year or so.

Thanks for your response.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 4:11 PM Murugan Muruganandam <
m.muruganan...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> hi Paul
>
> one way of checking is running reconciliation on the bank account and
> check your bank statement.
>
> also, when you create invoice it will be affecting only the receivables,
> on payment it will update the balances in your bank account
>
>
>
> Saludos Cordiales
>
>
> Murugan
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> *From:* gnucash-user  hotmail@gnucash.org> on behalf of Paul Roberts  >
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2024 1:02 PM
> *To:* gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
> *Subject:* [GNC] Bank Balance Higher Than Actual
>
> The bank balance in gnucash is much higher than the actual balance. Is
> there some way that I can find out why? When an invoice is created does
> that amount add to the bank balance?
>
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Re: [GNC] Bank Balance Higher Than Actual

[G R Hewitt]

Hello Paul,
There are many possible reasons why your GnuCash (GC) bank balance is
higher than the actual bank account, and so you will need to be methodical
in your approach to fixing it.
In the first instance, I would go through the statements from the bank and
see if there are any entries that you cannot account for or don't recognise
and investigate those. When satisfied that the bank account is as it should
be, I would then check the bank entries in the GC bank account(s) against
the
bank statement proper and make the necessary corrections until the GC bank
accounts agree with the bank, putting anything you can't immediately figure
out into a suspense account for later investigation.
When the GC bank account(s) agree with the bank statements, you are then
better placed to sort out the internal GC accounting errors. Be mindful
that fixing one error may raise another,
so fix them as they arise before moving onto the next. Don't expect this to
be a five minute job, you will be disappointed. Finally, make notes as you
go as to what was wrong, these will prove useful later on.
And yes, reconciling, religiously, every month is a far better proposition
than ' ... every year or so'.

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 at 08:16, Paul Roberts  wrote:

> Since the invoice amount shows up in Accounts Receivable I will need to
> investigate more closely to discover why the statement balance is so much
> higher than the actual bank balances. One reason would be that someone is
> stealing our money, but I find that quite hard to believe. The other
> explanation is that I am not posting all our expenses. I guess I will keep
> on searching for the answer.
>
> Another way to take care of this is to reconcile the balances each month
> and not just each year or so.
>
> Thanks for your response.
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 4:11 PM Murugan Muruganandam <
> m.muruganan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > hi Paul
> >
> > one way of checking is running reconciliation on the bank account and
> > check your bank statement.
> >
> > also, when you create invoice it will be affecting only the receivables,
> > on payment it will update the balances in your bank account
> >
> >
> >
> > Saludos Cordiales
> >
> >
> > Murugan
> > --
> > *From:* gnucash-user  > hotmail@gnucash.org> on behalf of Paul Roberts <
> p...@roatanschools.org
> > >
> > *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2024 1:02 PM
> > *To:* gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
> > *Subject:* [GNC] Bank Balance Higher Than Actual
> >
> > The bank balance in gnucash is much higher than the actual balance. Is
> > there some way that I can find out why? When an invoice is created does
> > that amount add to the bank balance?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Paul L Roberts, Ph.D.
> >
> > Head of School
> >
> > Bay Islands International School
> >
> > East Sandy Bay Beach Road, Sandy Bay
> >
> > Roatan, Islas de la Bahia, Honduras
> >
> > +504 9817-0344
> >
> > +504 9335-5272
> >
> > www.roatanschools.org
> >
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[GNC] Running mixed versions (okay?)

[R Losey]

So I have wonderful GnuCash installed on WIndows 10, on an M1 iMac, and on
Linux (Ubuntu 22.04LTS).

I mostly use the iMac and Windows versions, and I've always kept these two
versions in sync; that is, when I decided to upgrade to 5.1, I install 5.1
back-to-back on the iMac and Windows computers... mostly this was due to a
fear of corrupting the data files by running different versions.

But lately, and from education reading this list, I am thinking that the
data file format doesn't change, and the GnuCash version is more like a
"shell" around which the data file is operated upon, so maybe it's okay to
have Linux at 4.8 and Windows at 5.5-1 and iMac at 5.3.

But I thought I'd run it by this group to see what people think.

Thanks!

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Re: [GNC] Removing Scheduled Transaction From a Closed Year

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 2/23/2024 4:02 PM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) wrote:

On 2024-02-23 10:46, Grace wrote:


I am needing to revisit my GNUCash records for 2022. I forgot to erase
all the scheduled transaction before I "archived" it, so now when I open
the app, it applies all the scheduled transaction for 2023 and 2024! Did
not think about that!!

Is there a way of stopping GNUCash from doing that before I open the
app?


BUT  if you are opening this 2022 file to look at data entered only 
before 2023, you should not have a problem.


a) Run whatever reports you need with explicit dates (any date would be 
before 1/1/23)


b) Do not save changes (turn off autosave; do not save at end) OR first 
make a copy of your 2022 archive file and use that.


c) If these scheduled transactions ARE interfering with what you want to 
look at, consider HOW you are looking at it and what alternative ways 
(for example, reports where you can supply explicit dates)


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Running mixed versions (okay?)

[Adrien Monteleone]

There are some changes between major versions. There are checks silently 
run when you first open your file with a new major version.


You can run those checks explicitly via Actions > Check & Repair.

The goal is usually to keep compatibility between the last minor release 
of a major version and the next major version, in case you upgrade, have 
serious issues, and need to fall back.


I wouldn't worry too much about mix-n-match within the same major 
version (say, all machines on 5.x) but if you have to keep one machine 
held back, at least get it to the last release of that version. In your 
case, that would mean getting the Linux box up to 4.14. Since you're 
using Ubuntu 22.04 and GnuCash 4.8, I'll hazard a guess that was from 
the Ubuntu repo. You'd need to switch to flatpak to get 4.14 if you 
don't want to build from source, but in either of those cases, you might 
as well just bump the Linux box to match your others in the 5.x series.


The only alternative I can think of to keep the Linux version at 4.8, 
would be to export your transactions regularly from one of the other 
machines and then import them into a separate file used only with 4.8. 
But that is way more work than even building from source each release, 
not to mention updating a flatpak.


Regards,
Adrien

On 2/24/24 10:01 AM, R Losey wrote:

So I have wonderful GnuCash installed on WIndows 10, on an M1 iMac, and on
Linux (Ubuntu 22.04LTS).

I mostly use the iMac and Windows versions, and I've always kept these two
versions in sync; that is, when I decided to upgrade to 5.1, I install 5.1
back-to-back on the iMac and Windows computers... mostly this was due to a
fear of corrupting the data files by running different versions.

But lately, and from education reading this list, I am thinking that the
data file format doesn't change, and the GnuCash version is more like a
"shell" around which the data file is operated upon, so maybe it's okay to
have Linux at 4.8 and Windows at 5.5-1 and iMac at 5.3.

But I thought I'd run it by this group to see what people think.

Thanks!



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Re: [GNC] Trouble importing bills via csv

[Adrien Monteleone]

Although you should be able to have header row(s), perhaps remove it and 
try again.


The Documentation for this is worded oddly, but the samples provided 
don't show header info at all.


https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/busnss-imp-bills-invoices.html

Regards,
Adrien

On 2/24/24 10:15 AM, Alan Johnson via gnucash-user wrote:

Hello,

I'm having some issues importing a bill via CSV. I set up a trial run
and I'm getting the below errors.  Vendor "05" does not exist,
however that is the vendor ID for Amazon in my file.  It says account
"Liabilities:Accounts Payable" does not exist (but it does). It says
the Expense account also does not exist (but it does) and then it
proceeds to ignore the line.

How do I correct this for proper import? I've had the same issue on the
Customer invoice import side as well.

This is on Ubuntu with Flatpak 5.5

Here is the raw CSV import:

"id";"date_opened";"owner_id";"billingid";"notes";"date";"desc";"action
";"account";"quantity";"price";"disc_type";"disc_how";"discount";"taxab
le";"taxincluded";"tax_table";"date_posted";"due_date";"account_posted"
;"memo_posted";"accu_splits"
"111-7425790-5888250";05/11/23;"05";;;05/11/23;"Low Profile Fuse
Kit";;"Expenses:Auto:2016 Big
Country:BigCountryMaintenance";1;12;;;05/11/23;05/11/23;"Liabilitie
s:Accounts Payable";;"N"


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Re: [GNC] Trouble importing bills via csv

[Alan Johnson via gnucash-user]

I tried that with the same result. GNC says it ignored that line, and that's 
fine.

I'm concerned with the error messages indicating that the vendor and accounts 
don't exist. Have I input that data incorrectly?

Feb 24, 2024 13:00:20 Adrien Monteleone :

> Although you should be able to have header row(s), perhaps remove it and try 
> again.
> 
> The Documentation for this is worded oddly, but the samples provided don't 
> show header info at all.
> 
> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/busnss-imp-bills-invoices.html
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> On 2/24/24 10:15 AM, Alan Johnson via gnucash-user wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I'm having some issues importing a bill via CSV. I set up a trial run
>> and I'm getting the below errors.  Vendor "05" does not exist,
>> however that is the vendor ID for Amazon in my file.  It says account
>> "Liabilities:Accounts Payable" does not exist (but it does). It says
>> the Expense account also does not exist (but it does) and then it
>> proceeds to ignore the line.
>> How do I correct this for proper import? I've had the same issue on the
>> Customer invoice import side as well.
>> This is on Ubuntu with Flatpak 5.5
>> Here is the raw CSV import:
>> "id";"date_opened";"owner_id";"billingid";"notes";"date";"desc";"action
>> ";"account";"quantity";"price";"disc_type";"disc_how";"discount";"taxab
>> le";"taxincluded";"tax_table";"date_posted";"due_date";"account_posted"
>> ;"memo_posted";"accu_splits"
>> "111-7425790-5888250";05/11/23;"05";;;05/11/23;"Low Profile Fuse
>> Kit";;"Expenses:Auto:2016 Big
>> Country:BigCountryMaintenance";1;12;;;05/11/23;05/11/23;"Liabilitie
>> s:Accounts Payable";;"N"
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[GNC] Net Assets

[Fred Tydeman]

I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.
If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?

Running GnuCash 4.14 on Fedora Linux 37.
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Murugan Muruganandam]

fred

the bottom ticker net asset displays multiple accounts, from the drop down 
select Grand total then it will show you the net asset as per your balance sheet



Saludos Cordiales


Murugan


From: gnucash-user 
 on behalf of Fred 
Tydeman 
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 4:10 PM
To: Gnucash Users 
Subject: [GNC] Net Assets

I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.
If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?

Running GnuCash 4.14 on Fedora Linux 37.
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Re: [GNC] Removing Scheduled Transaction From a Closed Year

[David H]

What OS & Gnucash version ?  What I would try is to just close all apps
running/open on your pc, then set your pc date and time to the last updated
date/time of your Gnucash file.  Open the file which hopefully won't
trigger any scheduled txns and then turn off the "run when data file
opened" preference to run them at startup.

Strikes me that it wouldn't be a bad idea to popup a dialog box "Run
Scheduled Txns? Yes / No" when starting Gnucash as this is something you
have no control over once you've checked the preference to on - 20/20
hindsight :-)

Cheers David H.

[image: gnucash_zE1OU8U0W9.png]

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 at 04:47, Grace  wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I am needing to revisit my GNUCash records for 2022. I forgot to erase
> all the scheduled transaction before I "archived" it, so now when I open
> the app, it applies all the scheduled transaction for 2023 and 2024! Did
> not think about that!!
>
> Is there a way of stopping GNUCash from doing that before I open the
> app? Are the scheduled transactions in a file some where that I could
> delete?
>
> Hope there is an easy way to do this,
>
> Thanks
>
> Grace
>
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[David H]

Murugan,

Thank you for that as I don't think that in 10 or more years of using
Gnucash that I've realised that it is a drop down list :-)  I've always
been puzzled as to why it always shows a zero amount for "$, Grand Total"
on the left hand side when in actual fact this is just displaying the
currency or category the  Net Asset and Profits are displayed in.

Saludos Cordiales,

David H.


On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 05:37, Murugan Muruganandam <
m.muruganan...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> fred
>
> the bottom ticker net asset displays multiple accounts, from the drop down
> select Grand total then it will show you the net asset as per your balance
> sheet
>
>
>
> Saludos Cordiales
>
>
> Murugan
>
> 
> From: gnucash-user  hotmail@gnucash.org> on behalf of Fred Tydeman  >
> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 4:10 PM
> To: Gnucash Users 
> Subject: [GNC] Net Assets
>
> I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
> At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
> I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
> If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.
> If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?
>
> Running GnuCash 4.14 on Fedora Linux 37.
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)]

Is this a new thing (or possibly a fixed bug) in 5.x?

In 4.14 I have Net Assets and Profits at the bottom of my Accounts list
as Fred described, and there is a drop-down arrow, but all it does is
make the bar containing Net Assets and Profits wider than the GC window.
I can't see anything to click to change what's displayed in that bar.

Stan Brown
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On 2024-02-24 11:36, Murugan Muruganandam wrote:
> the bottom ticker net asset displays multiple accounts, from the drop down 
> select Grand total then it will show you the net asset as per your balance 
> sheet

> From: Fred Tydeman 
> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 4:10 PM
> 
> I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
> At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
> I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
> If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.
> If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?
> 
> Running GnuCash 4.14 on Fedora Linux 37.
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[David H]

Stan,

This is what it looks like dropped down in Gnucash 5.5.

Cheers David H.


[image: gnucash_Vif9y3IJMz.png]

On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 09:08, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) <
stan...@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> Is this a new thing (or possibly a fixed bug) in 5.x?
>
> In 4.14 I have Net Assets and Profits at the bottom of my Accounts list
> as Fred described, and there is a drop-down arrow, but all it does is
> make the bar containing Net Assets and Profits wider than the GC window.
> I can't see anything to click to change what's displayed in that bar.
>
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com
>
> On 2024-02-24 11:36, Murugan Muruganandam wrote:
> > the bottom ticker net asset displays multiple accounts, from the drop
> down select Grand total then it will show you the net asset as per your
> balance sheet
>
> > From: Fred Tydeman 
> > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 4:10 PM
> >
> > I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
> > At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
> > I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
> > If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.
> > If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?
> >
> > Running GnuCash 4.14 on Fedora Linux 37.
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)]

Thanks.

Maybe it's because everything is in US dollars in my books. I see from
your screen shot that it gives you different currencies to choose from,
but that wouldn't apply to me.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
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On 2024-02-24 15:12, David H wrote:
> Stan,
> 
> This is what it looks like dropped down in Gnucash 5.5.
> 
> Cheers David H.
> 
> 
> gnucash_Vif9y3IJMz.png
> 
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 09:08, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
> mailto:stan%2...@fastmail.fm>> wrote:
> 
> Is this a new thing (or possibly a fixed bug) in 5.x?
> 
> In 4.14 I have Net Assets and Profits at the bottom of my Accounts list
> as Fred described, and there is a drop-down arrow, but all it does is
> make the bar containing Net Assets and Profits wider than the GC window.
> I can't see anything to click to change what's displayed in that bar.
> 
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com 
> 
> On 2024-02-24 11:36, Murugan Muruganandam wrote:
> > the bottom ticker net asset displays multiple accounts, from the
> drop down select Grand total then it will show you the net asset as
> per your balance sheet
> 
> > From: Fred Tydeman  >
> > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 4:10 PM
> >
> > I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
> > At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
> > I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
> > If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.
> > If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?
> >
> > Running GnuCash 4.14 on Fedora Linux 37.
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Fred Tydeman]

With arrow/cursor over "down arrow" on right side of bottom line, Press and
hold down the left mouse button .
While still pressing down the left mouse button, press "down cursor/arrow
button"
(can also press up arrow button to scroll thru the list of assets).
Trying again, it appears one does not need to hold down the Left mouse
button to scroll thru the list.

But, I still do not know where the Grand total value comes from.

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 3:08 PM Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) <
stan...@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> Is this a new thing (or possibly a fixed bug) in 5.x?
>
> In 4.14 I have Net Assets and Profits at the bottom of my Accounts list
> as Fred described, and there is a drop-down arrow, but all it does is
> make the bar containing Net Assets and Profits wider than the GC window.
> I can't see anything to click to change what's displayed in that bar.
>
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com
>
> On 2024-02-24 11:36, Murugan Muruganandam wrote:
> > the bottom ticker net asset displays multiple accounts, from the drop
> down select Grand total then it will show you the net asset as per your
> balance sheet
>
> > From: Fred Tydeman 
> > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 4:10 PM
> >
> > I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
> > At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
> > I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
> > If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.
> > If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?
> >
> > Running GnuCash 4.14 on Fedora Linux 37.
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Fred Tydeman]

The grand total net assets on bottom of screen does not match Balance Sheet.
Also, what date is being used for Grand Total net assets?
  Today?
  End of accounting period?

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 11:36 AM Murugan Muruganandam <
m.muruganan...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> fred
>
> the bottom ticker net asset displays multiple accounts, from the drop down
> select Grand total then it will show you the net asset as per your balance
> sheet
>
>
>
> Saludos Cordiales
>
>
> Murugan
> --
> *From:* gnucash-user  hotmail@gnucash.org> on behalf of Fred Tydeman  >
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 24, 2024 4:10 PM
> *To:* Gnucash Users 
> *Subject:* [GNC] Net Assets
>
> I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
> At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
> I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
> If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.
> If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?
>
> Running GnuCash 4.14 on Fedora Linux 37.
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)]

Thanks for writing, but nothing changes in the display, whether I hold
down the mouse button or not.

But see David H's screen shot, sent a few minutes ago. That shows many
currencies, but everything in my book is in US$, so I suspect that's why
I don't get anything in the drop-down.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
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On 2024-02-24 15:25, Fred Tydeman wrote:
> With arrow/cursor over "down arrow" on right side of bottom line, Press
> and hold down the left mouse button .
> While still pressing down the left mouse button, press "down
> cursor/arrow button" 
> (can also press up arrow button to scroll thru the list of assets).
> Trying again, it appears one does not need to hold down the Left mouse
> button to scroll thru the list.
> 
> But, I still do not know where the Grand total value comes from.
> 
> On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 3:08 PM Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
> mailto:stan%2...@fastmail.fm>> wrote:
> 
> Is this a new thing (or possibly a fixed bug) in 5.x?
> 
> In 4.14 I have Net Assets and Profits at the bottom of my Accounts list
> as Fred described, and there is a drop-down arrow, but all it does is
> make the bar containing Net Assets and Profits wider than the GC window.
> I can't see anything to click to change what's displayed in that bar.
> 
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com 
> 
> On 2024-02-24 11:36, Murugan Muruganandam wrote:
> > the bottom ticker net asset displays multiple accounts, from the
> drop down select Grand total then it will show you the net asset as
> per your balance sheet
> 
> > From: Fred Tydeman  >
> > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 4:10 PM
> >
> > I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
> > At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
> > I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
> > If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.
> > If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?
> >
> > Running GnuCash 4.14 on Fedora Linux 37.
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 2/24/2024 2:10 PM, Fred Tydeman wrote:

I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.


Wrong assumption.


If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?


Net Assets.

You need to go back the the tutorial until it is clear to you what are 
"assets", "liabilities", and "equity"


Net EQUITY would be net assets - net liabilities

Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Trouble importing bills via csv

[David H]

Alan,

Your file imports fine here after I add the vendor, create the Accounts
Payable liability, remove the header line and remove the double quotes that
you have plastered around every field for some reason which probably causes
the other errors.

It might pay to read up on Gnucash Bills Importing at
https://gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/busnss-imp-bills-invoices.html and
the examples therein :-

You'll note a complete absence of double quotes in the following example
and no header line.

Hope this helps,

Cheers David H.


Note on double quotes

If you use the field separator character within a field, the field value
should be enclosed in double quotes. Only for the fields description (desc)
and notes, can you also include a double quote within a quoted field value,
by doubling the double quote. E.g. "This field value uses the separator,
and a ""quoted"" word", would be imported as This field value uses the
separator, and a "quoted" word.

Example content for two bills; one of 2 entries, and one of 3 entries. The
first is saved and posted, the second only saved. Using comma field
separator, decimal point and dd/mm/ date format.

1204;15/12/2018;2001;PO 210220;Special delivery;16/12/2018;Pride and
Prejudice;pc;Expenses:Books;1;30.00X;;A1;17/12/2018;17/1/2019;Liabilities:Accounts
Payable;;X
1204;15/12/2018;2001;PO 210220;Special delivery;16/12/2018;Electronic
principles;pc;Expenses:Books;1;50.00X;;A1;17/12/2018;17/1/2019;Liabilities:Accounts
Payable;;X
1205;15/12/2018;2044;PO 21099;;16/12/2018;Ultimate
Guide;pc;Expenses:Books;1;10.01;;;
1205;15/12/2018;2044;PO 21099;;16/12/2018;Dinner &
drinks;pc;Expenses:Dining;1;10.01;;;
1205;15/12/2018;2044;PO 21099;;16/12/2018;UG
course;pc;Expenses:Education;1;10.01;;;



On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 04:09, Alan Johnson via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> I tried that with the same result. GNC says it ignored that line, and
> that's fine.
>
> I'm concerned with the error messages indicating that the vendor and
> accounts don't exist. Have I input that data incorrectly?
>
> Feb 24, 2024 13:00:20 Adrien Monteleone :
>
> > Although you should be able to have header row(s), perhaps remove it and
> try again.
> >
> > The Documentation for this is worded oddly, but the samples provided
> don't show header info at all.
> >
> >
> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/busnss-imp-bills-invoices.html
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> > On 2/24/24 10:15 AM, Alan Johnson via gnucash-user wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >> I'm having some issues importing a bill via CSV. I set up a trial run
> >> and I'm getting the below errors.  Vendor "05" does not exist,
> >> however that is the vendor ID for Amazon in my file.  It says account
> >> "Liabilities:Accounts Payable" does not exist (but it does). It says
> >> the Expense account also does not exist (but it does) and then it
> >> proceeds to ignore the line.
> >> How do I correct this for proper import? I've had the same issue on the
> >> Customer invoice import side as well.
> >> This is on Ubuntu with Flatpak 5.5
> >> Here is the raw CSV import:
> >> "id";"date_opened";"owner_id";"billingid";"notes";"date";"desc";"action
> >> ";"account";"quantity";"price";"disc_type";"disc_how";"discount";"taxab
> >> le";"taxincluded";"tax_table";"date_posted";"due_date";"account_posted"
> >> ;"memo_posted";"accu_splits"
> >> "111-7425790-5888250";05/11/23;"05";;;05/11/23;"Low Profile Fuse
> >> Kit";;"Expenses:Auto:2016 Big
> >> Country:BigCountryMaintenance";1;12;;;05/11/23;05/11/23;"Liabilitie
> >> s:Accounts Payable";;"N"
> >
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Re: [GNC] Removing Scheduled Transaction From a Closed Year

[Adrien Monteleone]

That would be:

Preferences > Scheduled Transactions > Since Last Run > Run when data 
file opened.


So you want a dialog box to confirm the preference each time? What's the 
point of the preference then?


Regards,
Adrien

On 2/24/24 2:03 PM, David H wrote:

Strikes me that it wouldn't be a bad idea to popup a dialog box "Run
Scheduled Txns? Yes / No" when starting Gnucash as this is something you
have no control over once you've checked the preference to on - 20/20
hindsight :-)


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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Adrien Monteleone]

And I'm pretty sure there is a bug filed on it.

Regards,
Adrien

On 2/24/24 2:14 PM, David H wrote:

Thank you for that as I don't think that in 10 or more years of using
Gnucash that I've realised that it is a drop down list :-)  I've always
been puzzled as to why it always shows a zero amount for "$, Grand Total"
on the left hand side when in actual fact this is just displaying the
currency or category the  Net Asset and Profits are displayed in.


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Re: [GNC] Trouble importing bills via csv

[Adrien Monteleone]

There is the caveat, noted in that link, that if you use the same 
delimiter for your account tree as the CSV, then (and only then) do you 
need to enclose account references in double-quotes. (this is generally 
a CSV thing, not something specific to GnuCash)


Regards,
Adrien

On 2/24/24 6:02 PM, David H wrote:

Your file imports fine here after I add the vendor, create the Accounts
Payable liability, remove the header line and remove the double quotes that
you have plastered around every field for some reason which probably causes
the other errors.

It might pay to read up on Gnucash Bills Importing at
https://gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/busnss-imp-bills-invoices.html and
the examples therein :-

You'll note a complete absence of double quotes in the following example
and no header line.


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Re: [GNC] Trouble importing bills via csv

[Alan Johnson via gnucash-user]

I did read the manual, hence my usage of the quotes. I had done it
before without.  

I'll make a video and send it out shortly. 

Alan

On Sun, 2024-02-25 at 10:02 +1000, David H wrote:
> Alan,
> 
> Your file imports fine here after I add the vendor, create the
> Accounts Payable liability, remove the header line and remove the
> double quotes that you have plastered around every field for some
> reason which probably causes the other errors.
> 
> It might pay to read up on Gnucash Bills Importing
> at 
> https://gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/busnss-imp-bills-invoices.html
>  and the examples therein :-
> 
> You'll note a complete absence of double quotes in the following
> example and no header line.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Cheers David H.
> 
> 
> Note on double quotes
> If you use the field separator character within a field, the field
> value should be enclosed in double quotes. Only for the fields
> description (desc) and notes, can you also include a double quote
> within a quoted field value, by doubling the double quote. E.g. "This
> field value uses the separator, and a ""quoted"" word", would be
> imported as This field value uses the separator, and a "quoted" word.
> 
> Example content for two bills; one of 2 entries, and one of 3
> entries. The first is saved and posted, the second only saved. Using
> comma field separator, decimal point and dd/mm/ date format.
> 1204;15/12/2018;2001;PO 210220;Special delivery;16/12/2018;Pride and
> Prejudice;pc;Expenses:Books;1;30.00X;;A1;17/12/2018;17/1/2019;Lia
> bilities:Accounts Payable;;X
> 1204;15/12/2018;2001;PO 210220;Special delivery;16/12/2018;Electronic
> principles;pc;Expenses:Books;1;50.00X;;A1;17/12/2018;17/1/2019;Li
> abilities:Accounts Payable;;X
> 1205;15/12/2018;2044;PO 21099;;16/12/2018;Ultimate
> Guide;pc;Expenses:Books;1;10.01;;;
> 1205;15/12/2018;2044;PO 21099;;16/12/2018;Dinner &
> drinks;pc;Expenses:Dining;1;10.01;;;
> 1205;15/12/2018;2044;PO 21099;;16/12/2018;UG
> course;pc;Expenses:Education;1;10.01;;;
> 
> 
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 04:09, Alan Johnson via gnucash-user
>  wrote:
> > I tried that with the same result. GNC says it ignored that line,
> > and that's fine.
> > 
> > I'm concerned with the error messages indicating that the vendor
> > and accounts don't exist. Have I input that data incorrectly?
> > 
> > Feb 24, 2024 13:00:20 Adrien Monteleone
> > :
> > 
> > > Although you should be able to have header row(s), perhaps remove
> > it and try again.
> > > 
> > > The Documentation for this is worded oddly, but the samples
> > provided don't show header info at all.
> > > 
> > >
> > https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/busnss-imp-bills-invoices.html
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Adrien
> > > 
> > > On 2/24/24 10:15 AM, Alan Johnson via gnucash-user wrote:
> > >> Hello,
> > >> I'm having some issues importing a bill via CSV. I set up a
> > trial run
> > >> and I'm getting the below errors.  Vendor "05" does not
> > exist,
> > >> however that is the vendor ID for Amazon in my file.  It says
> > account
> > >> "Liabilities:Accounts Payable" does not exist (but it does). It
> > says
> > >> the Expense account also does not exist (but it does) and then
> > it
> > >> proceeds to ignore the line.
> > >> How do I correct this for proper import? I've had the same issue
> > on the
> > >> Customer invoice import side as well.
> > >> This is on Ubuntu with Flatpak 5.5
> > >> Here is the raw CSV import:
> > >>
> > "id";"date_opened";"owner_id";"billingid";"notes";"date";"desc";"ac
> > tion
> > >>
> > ";"account";"quantity";"price";"disc_type";"disc_how";"discount";"t
> > axab
> > >>
> > le";"taxincluded";"tax_table";"date_posted";"due_date";"account_pos
> > ted"
> > >> ;"memo_posted";"accu_splits"
> > >> "111-7425790-5888250";05/11/23;"05";;;05/11/23;"Low Profile
> > Fuse
> > >> Kit";;"Expenses:Auto:2016 Big
> > >>
> > Country:BigCountryMaintenance";1;12;;;05/11/23;05/11/23;"Liabil
> > itie
> > >> s:Accounts Payable";;"N"
> > > 
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Re: [GNC] Trouble importing bills via csv

[David H]

Aha I read that as you'd tried it with and without the header line
nothing was said about the quotes :-)



On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 10:11, Alan Johnson  wrote:

> I did read the manual, hence my usage of the quotes. I had done it before
> without.
>
> I'll make a video and send it out shortly.
>
> Alan
>
> On Sun, 2024-02-25 at 10:02 +1000, David H wrote:
>
> Alan,
>
> Your file imports fine here after I add the vendor, create the Accounts
> Payable liability, remove the header line and remove the double quotes that
> you have plastered around every field for some reason which probably causes
> the other errors.
>
> It might pay to read up on Gnucash Bills Importing at
> https://gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/busnss-imp-bills-invoices.html and
> the examples therein :-
>
> You'll note a complete absence of double quotes in the following example
> and no header line.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Cheers David H.
>
>
> Note on double quotes
>
> If you use the field separator character within a field, the field value
> should be enclosed in double quotes. Only for the fields description (desc)
> and notes, can you also include a double quote within a quoted field value,
> by doubling the double quote. E.g. "This field value uses the separator,
> and a ""quoted"" word", would be imported as This field value uses the
> separator, and a "quoted" word.
>
> Example content for two bills; one of 2 entries, and one of 3 entries. The
> first is saved and posted, the second only saved. Using comma field
> separator, decimal point and dd/mm/ date format.
>
> 1204;15/12/2018;2001;PO 210220;Special delivery;16/12/2018;Pride and 
> Prejudice;pc;Expenses:Books;1;30.00X;;A1;17/12/2018;17/1/2019;Liabilities:Accounts
>  Payable;;X
> 1204;15/12/2018;2001;PO 210220;Special delivery;16/12/2018;Electronic 
> principles;pc;Expenses:Books;1;50.00X;;A1;17/12/2018;17/1/2019;Liabilities:Accounts
>  Payable;;X
> 1205;15/12/2018;2044;PO 21099;;16/12/2018;Ultimate 
> Guide;pc;Expenses:Books;1;10.01;;;
> 1205;15/12/2018;2044;PO 21099;;16/12/2018;Dinner & 
> drinks;pc;Expenses:Dining;1;10.01;;;
> 1205;15/12/2018;2044;PO 21099;;16/12/2018;UG 
> course;pc;Expenses:Education;1;10.01;;;
>
>
>
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 04:09, Alan Johnson via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
>
> I tried that with the same result. GNC says it ignored that line, and
> that's fine.
>
> I'm concerned with the error messages indicating that the vendor and
> accounts don't exist. Have I input that data incorrectly?
>
> Feb 24, 2024 13:00:20 Adrien Monteleone :
>
> > Although you should be able to have header row(s), perhaps remove it and
> try again.
> >
> > The Documentation for this is worded oddly, but the samples provided
> don't show header info at all.
> >
> >
> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/busnss-imp-bills-invoices.html
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> > On 2/24/24 10:15 AM, Alan Johnson via gnucash-user wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >> I'm having some issues importing a bill via CSV. I set up a trial run
> >> and I'm getting the below errors.  Vendor "05" does not exist,
> >> however that is the vendor ID for Amazon in my file.  It says account
> >> "Liabilities:Accounts Payable" does not exist (but it does). It says
> >> the Expense account also does not exist (but it does) and then it
> >> proceeds to ignore the line.
> >> How do I correct this for proper import? I've had the same issue on the
> >> Customer invoice import side as well.
> >> This is on Ubuntu with Flatpak 5.5
> >> Here is the raw CSV import:
> >> "id";"date_opened";"owner_id";"billingid";"notes";"date";"desc";"action
> >> ";"account";"quantity";"price";"disc_type";"disc_how";"discount";"taxab
> >> le";"taxincluded";"tax_table";"date_posted";"due_date";"account_posted"
> >> ;"memo_posted";"accu_splits"
> >> "111-7425790-5888250";05/11/23;"05";;;05/11/23;"Low Profile Fuse
> >> Kit";;"Expenses:Auto:2016 Big
> >> Country:BigCountryMaintenance";1;12;;;05/11/23;05/11/23;"Liabilitie
> >> s:Accounts Payable";;"N"
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[David H]

And don't forget there's preferences for this :-)

[image: gnucash_MNvtUxxRux.png]

On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 10:06, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> And I'm pretty sure there is a bug filed on it.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 2/24/24 2:14 PM, David H wrote:
> > Thank you for that as I don't think that in 10 or more years of using
> > Gnucash that I've realised that it is a drop down list :-)  I've always
> > been puzzled as to why it always shows a zero amount for "$, Grand Total"
> > on the left hand side when in actual fact this is just displaying the
> > currency or category the  Net Asset and Profits are displayed in.
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Fred Tydeman]

The "Net Assets" value at the bottom of the screen does NOT match the
Assets account Present(USD) value.
So, when I saw the word "Net", I assumed Assets-Liability.
But, as you pointed out, that would be Equity.

If I play with Edit:Preferences:Accounting Period
I can keep or remove Grand total (at bottom of screen)
If I change End Date, the Net Assets value does change, but not match.
  I have tried:   Today, End of this year, End of previous year
If I change Start Date, the Profits value changes, but the Net Assets
remains the same.


On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 3:44 PM Michael or Penny Novack <
stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 2/24/2024 2:10 PM, Fred Tydeman wrote:
> > I am looking at the Accounts account screen.
> > At the bottom of the screen, is Net Assets: $xxx and Profits: $yyy
> > I assume Net Assets is the current value of Assets - Liabilities.
> > If that is the case, numbers are wrong by a lot.
>
> Wrong assumption.
>
> > If that is not the case, what is Net Assets?
>
> Net Assets.
>
> You need to go back the the tutorial until it is clear to you what are
> "assets", "liabilities", and "equity"
>
> Net EQUITY would be net assets - net liabilities
>
> Michael D Novack
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Fred Tydeman]

799026 appears to be that bug report (search for "Summary Bar")

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 4:06 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> And I'm pretty sure there is a bug filed on it.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 2/24/24 2:14 PM, David H wrote:
> > Thank you for that as I don't think that in 10 or more years of using
> > Gnucash that I've realised that it is a drop down list :-)  I've always
> > been puzzled as to why it always shows a zero amount for "$, Grand Total"
> > on the left hand side when in actual fact this is just displaying the
> > currency or category the  Net Asset and Profits are displayed in.
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Re: [GNC] Removing Scheduled Transaction From a Closed Year

[David H]

Correct, I'm aware of the preference and also have it checked on as it
saves me keystrokes :-)

What is the point of the preference?  Well obviously most times it's useful
and saves you having to run the "Since last run" process to create them
yourself.

But for the odd time that you don't want the Scheduled txns created,
granted rare, there's no way currently to say, no just this once please
don't create them.  I've been in this situation myself but can't remember
exactly why or what I screwed up at the time.

You can't change the existing preference to "No" until you've opened your
data file and by then the scheduled txns have already been created.
Thinking about it further I suppose you could fairly easily delete them
from the Created Txns tab if you also have the "Review created
transactions" preference checked on?

At the moment on startup there's no way to prevent the scheduled txns being
created if the preference is set to on, it just happens and is unstoppable.

Cheers David H.


On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 10:05, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> That would be:
>
> Preferences > Scheduled Transactions > Since Last Run > Run when data
> file opened.
>
> So you want a dialog box to confirm the preference each time? What's the
> point of the preference then?
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 2/24/24 2:03 PM, David H wrote:
> > Strikes me that it wouldn't be a bad idea to popup a dialog box "Run
> > Scheduled Txns? Yes / No" when starting Gnucash as this is something you
> > have no control over once you've checked the preference to on - 20/20
> > hindsight :-)
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Re: [GNC] Trouble importing bills via csv

[Alan Johnson via gnucash-user]

So, I was working on it and here was that worked as I was playing with
it. I'm using LibreOffice to edit the CSVs. 

Edit the filter on the "save as" dialog, then I set the field delimiter
and deleted the string delimiter and unchecked 'quote all text cells'. 

Then I was able to successfully able to import the bills.  

Alan

On Sat, 2024-02-24 at 19:10 -0500, Alan Johnson via gnucash-user wrote:
> I did read the manual, hence my usage of the quotes. I had done it
> before without.  
> 
> I'll make a video and send it out shortly. 
> 
> Alan
> 
> On Sun, 2024-02-25 at 10:02 +1000, David H wrote:
> > Alan,
> > 
> > Your file imports fine here after I add the vendor, create the
> > Accounts Payable liability, remove the header line and remove the
> > double quotes that you have plastered around every field for some
> > reason which probably causes the other errors.
> > 
> > It might pay to read up on Gnucash Bills Importing
> > at 
> > https://gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/busnss-imp-bills-invoices.html
> >  and the examples therein :-
> > 
> > You'll note a complete absence of double quotes in the following
> > example and no header line.
> > 
> > Hope this helps,
> > 
> > Cheers David H.
> > 
> > 
> > Note on double quotes
> > If you use the field separator character within a field, the field
> > value should be enclosed in double quotes. Only for the fields
> > description (desc) and notes, can you also include a double quote
> > within a quoted field value, by doubling the double quote.
> > E.g. "This
> > field value uses the separator, and a ""quoted"" word", would be
> > imported as This field value uses the separator, and a "quoted"
> > word.
> > 
> > Example content for two bills; one of 2 entries, and one of 3
> > entries. The first is saved and posted, the second only saved.
> > Using
> > comma field separator, decimal point and dd/mm/ date format.
> > 1204;15/12/2018;2001;PO 210220;Special delivery;16/12/2018;Pride
> > and
> > Prejudice;pc;Expenses:Books;1;30.00X;;A1;17/12/2018;17/1/2019;L
> > ia
> > bilities:Accounts Payable;;X
> > 1204;15/12/2018;2001;PO 210220;Special
> > delivery;16/12/2018;Electronic
> > principles;pc;Expenses:Books;1;50.00X;;A1;17/12/2018;17/1/2019;
> > Li
> > abilities:Accounts Payable;;X
> > 1205;15/12/2018;2044;PO 21099;;16/12/2018;Ultimate
> > Guide;pc;Expenses:Books;1;10.01;;;
> > 1205;15/12/2018;2044;PO 21099;;16/12/2018;Dinner &
> > drinks;pc;Expenses:Dining;1;10.01;;;
> > 1205;15/12/2018;2044;PO 21099;;16/12/2018;UG
> > course;pc;Expenses:Education;1;10.01;;;
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 04:09, Alan Johnson via gnucash-user
> >  wrote:
> > > I tried that with the same result. GNC says it ignored that line,
> > > and that's fine.
> > > 
> > > I'm concerned with the error messages indicating that the vendor
> > > and accounts don't exist. Have I input that data incorrectly?
> > > 
> > > Feb 24, 2024 13:00:20 Adrien Monteleone
> > > :
> > > 
> > > > Although you should be able to have header row(s), perhaps
> > > > remove
> > > it and try again.
> > > > 
> > > > The Documentation for this is worded oddly, but the samples
> > > provided don't show header info at all.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/busnss-imp-bills-invoices.html
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Adrien
> > > > 
> > > > On 2/24/24 10:15 AM, Alan Johnson via gnucash-user wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > I'm having some issues importing a bill via CSV. I set up a
> > > trial run
> > > > > and I'm getting the below errors.  Vendor "05" does not
> > > exist,
> > > > > however that is the vendor ID for Amazon in my file.  It says
> > > account
> > > > > "Liabilities:Accounts Payable" does not exist (but it does).
> > > > > It
> > > says
> > > > > the Expense account also does not exist (but it does) and
> > > > > then
> > > it
> > > > > proceeds to ignore the line.
> > > > > How do I correct this for proper import? I've had the same
> > > > > issue
> > > on the
> > > > > Customer invoice import side as well.
> > > > > This is on Ubuntu with Flatpak 5.5
> > > > > Here is the raw CSV import:
> > > > > 
> > > "id";"date_opened";"owner_id";"billingid";"notes";"date";"desc";"
> > > ac
> > > tion
> > > > > 
> > > ";"account";"quantity";"price";"disc_type";"disc_how";"discount";
> > > "t
> > > axab
> > > > > 
> > > le";"taxincluded";"tax_table";"date_posted";"due_date";"account_p
> > > os
> > > ted"
> > > > > ;"memo_posted";"accu_splits"
> > > > > "111-7425790-5888250";05/11/23;"05";;;05/11/23;"Low
> > > > > Profile
> > > Fuse
> > > > > Kit";;"Expenses:Auto:2016 Big
> > > > > 
> > > Country:BigCountryMaintenance";1;12;;;05/11/23;05/11/23;"Liab
> > > il
> > > itie
> > > > > s:Accounts Payable";;"N"
> > > > 
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Re: [GNC] Net Assets

[Fred Tydeman]

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 4:23 PM Fred Tydeman  wrote:

> The "Net Assets" value at the bottom of the screen does NOT match the
> Assets account Present(USD) value.
> So, when I saw the word "Net", I assumed Assets-Liability.
> But, as you pointed out, that would be Equity.
>
> If I play with Edit:Preferences:Accounting Period
> I can keep or remove Grand total (at bottom of screen)
> If I change End Date, the Net Assets value does change, but not match.
>   I have tried:   Today, End of this year, End of previous year
> If I change Start Date, the Profits value changes, but the Net Assets
> remains the same.
>

I have 5 files/books of accounts.  3 have some foreign assets, 2 have only
US assets.
For the two books with just US assets , I can get Net Assets in the Summary
Bar to match
Present(USD) for the Assets account if I change Accounting Period End Date
to Today.
For the three books with some foreign assets, I have not been able to get a
match.
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Re: [GNC] Trouble importing bills via csv

[David H]

So basically you got rid of the quotes around everything as I suggested :-)

Cheers David H.

On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 11:17, Alan Johnson via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> So, I was working on it and here was that worked as I was playing with
> it. I'm using LibreOffice to edit the CSVs.
>
> Edit the filter on the "save as" dialog, then I set the field delimiter
> and deleted the string delimiter and unchecked 'quote all text cells'.
>
> Then I was able to successfully able to import the bills.
>
> Alan
>
> On Sat, 2024-02-24 at 19:10 -0500, Alan Johnson via gnucash-user wrote:
> > I did read the manual, hence my usage of the quotes. I had done it
> > before without.
> >
> > I'll make a video and send it out shortly.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > On Sun, 2024-02-25 at 10:02 +1000, David H wrote:
> > > Alan,
> > >
> > > Your file imports fine here after I add the vendor, create the
> > > Accounts Payable liability, remove the header line and remove the
> > > double quotes that you have plastered around every field for some
> > > reason which probably causes the other errors.
> > >
> > > It might pay to read up on Gnucash Bills Importing
> > > at
> > >
> https://gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/busnss-imp-bills-invoices.html
> > >  and the examples therein :-
> > >
> > > You'll note a complete absence of double quotes in the following
> > > example and no header line.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > >
> > > Cheers David H.
> > >
> > >
> > > Note on double quotes
> > > If you use the field separator character within a field, the field
> > > value should be enclosed in double quotes. Only for the fields
> > > description (desc) and notes, can you also include a double quote
> > > within a quoted field value, by doubling the double quote.
> > > E.g. "This
> > > field value uses the separator, and a ""quoted"" word", would be
> > > imported as This field value uses the separator, and a "quoted"
> > > word.
> > >
> > > Example content for two bills; one of 2 entries, and one of 3
> > > entries. The first is saved and posted, the second only saved.
> > > Using
> > > comma field separator, decimal point and dd/mm/ date format.
> > > 1204;15/12/2018;2001;PO 210220;Special delivery;16/12/2018;Pride
> > > and
> > > Prejudice;pc;Expenses:Books;1;30.00X;;A1;17/12/2018;17/1/2019;L
> > > ia
> > > bilities:Accounts Payable;;X
> > > 1204;15/12/2018;2001;PO 210220;Special
> > > delivery;16/12/2018;Electronic
> > > principles;pc;Expenses:Books;1;50.00X;;A1;17/12/2018;17/1/2019;
> > > Li
> > > abilities:Accounts Payable;;X
> > > 1205;15/12/2018;2044;PO 21099;;16/12/2018;Ultimate
> > > Guide;pc;Expenses:Books;1;10.01;;;
> > > 1205;15/12/2018;2044;PO 21099;;16/12/2018;Dinner &
> > > drinks;pc;Expenses:Dining;1;10.01;;;
> > > 1205;15/12/2018;2044;PO 21099;;16/12/2018;UG
> > > course;pc;Expenses:Education;1;10.01;;;
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 04:09, Alan Johnson via gnucash-user
> > >  wrote:
> > > > I tried that with the same result. GNC says it ignored that line,
> > > > and that's fine.
> > > >
> > > > I'm concerned with the error messages indicating that the vendor
> > > > and accounts don't exist. Have I input that data incorrectly?
> > > >
> > > > Feb 24, 2024 13:00:20 Adrien Monteleone
> > > > :
> > > >
> > > > > Although you should be able to have header row(s), perhaps
> > > > > remove
> > > > it and try again.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Documentation for this is worded oddly, but the samples
> > > > provided don't show header info at all.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/busnss-imp-bills-invoices.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Adrien
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2/24/24 10:15 AM, Alan Johnson via gnucash-user wrote:
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > I'm having some issues importing a bill via CSV. I set up a
> > > > trial run
> > > > > > and I'm getting the below errors.  Vendor "05" does not
> > > > exist,
> > > > > > however that is the vendor ID for Amazon in my file.  It says
> > > > account
> > > > > > "Liabilities:Accounts Payable" does not exist (but it does).
> > > > > > It
> > > > says
> > > > > > the Expense account also does not exist (but it does) and
> > > > > > then
> > > > it
> > > > > > proceeds to ignore the line.
> > > > > > How do I correct this for proper import? I've had the same
> > > > > > issue
> > > > on the
> > > > > > Customer invoice import side as well.
> > > > > > This is on Ubuntu with Flatpak 5.5
> > > > > > Here is the raw CSV import:
> > > > > >
> > > > "id";"date_opened";"owner_id";"billingid";"notes";"date";"desc";"
> > > > ac
> > > > tion
> > > > > >
> > > > ";"account";"quantity";"price";"disc_type";"disc_how";"discount";
> > > > "t
> > > > axab
> > > > > >
> > > > le";"taxincluded";"tax_table";"date_posted";"due_date";"account_p
> > > > os
> > > > ted"
> > > > > > ;"memo_posted";"accu_splits"
> > > > > > "111-7425790-5888250";05/11/23;"05";;;05/11/23;"Low
> > > > > 

Re: [GNC] Removing Scheduled Transaction From a Closed Year

[Gyle McCollam]

Even if you don't have "Review created transactions" preference checked on, you 
can always use the find option.  Look for "Date Posted" use the "is on or 
after" option to find all transactions after 1/1/?? and you can then delete 
them.  You would have to change the preference before you open an old file to 
either not "Run when data file opened" or as you suggest make sure "Review 
created transactions" is checked so you can delete them more easily.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of David H 
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 7:43 PM
To: adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net 
Cc: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Removing Scheduled Transaction From a Closed Year

Correct, I'm aware of the preference and also have it checked on as it
saves me keystrokes :-)

What is the point of the preference?  Well obviously most times it's useful
and saves you having to run the "Since last run" process to create them
yourself.

But for the odd time that you don't want the Scheduled txns created,
granted rare, there's no way currently to say, no just this once please
don't create them.  I've been in this situation myself but can't remember
exactly why or what I screwed up at the time.

You can't change the existing preference to "No" until you've opened your
data file and by then the scheduled txns have already been created.
Thinking about it further I suppose you could fairly easily delete them
from the Created Txns tab if you also have the "Review created
transactions" preference checked on?

At the moment on startup there's no way to prevent the scheduled txns being
created if the preference is set to on, it just happens and is unstoppable.

Cheers David H.


On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 10:05, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> That would be:
>
> Preferences > Scheduled Transactions > Since Last Run > Run when data
> file opened.
>
> So you want a dialog box to confirm the preference each time? What's the
> point of the preference then?
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 2/24/24 2:03 PM, David H wrote:
> > Strikes me that it wouldn't be a bad idea to popup a dialog box "Run
> > Scheduled Txns? Yes / No" when starting Gnucash as this is something you
> > have no control over once you've checked the preference to on - 20/20
> > hindsight :-)
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Re: [GNC] Running mixed versions (okay?)

[R Losey]

Thanks for this... I haven't seen any notice about file changes between
major versions (probably because - as you say - it is silently checked).

Yes, the Ubuntu version is from the repository. I'll have to look up
installing flatpak to get the 5.x version of GnuCash - I'm not going to do
the export/import work. I'd rather just not run it at all on Ubuntu... I
had been running a flatpak version earlier (that was on the previous LTS
version, where the repository version was [I think] at 3.x).


On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 11:48 AM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> There are some changes between major versions. There are checks silently
> run when you first open your file with a new major version.
>
> You can run those checks explicitly via Actions > Check & Repair.
>
> The goal is usually to keep compatibility between the last minor release
> of a major version and the next major version, in case you upgrade, have
> serious issues, and need to fall back.
>
> I wouldn't worry too much about mix-n-match within the same major
> version (say, all machines on 5.x) but if you have to keep one machine
> held back, at least get it to the last release of that version. In your
> case, that would mean getting the Linux box up to 4.14. Since you're
> using Ubuntu 22.04 and GnuCash 4.8, I'll hazard a guess that was from
> the Ubuntu repo. You'd need to switch to flatpak to get 4.14 if you
> don't want to build from source, but in either of those cases, you might
> as well just bump the Linux box to match your others in the 5.x series.
>
> The only alternative I can think of to keep the Linux version at 4.8,
> would be to export your transactions regularly from one of the other
> machines and then import them into a separate file used only with 4.8.
> But that is way more work than even building from source each release,
> not to mention updating a flatpak.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 2/24/24 10:01 AM, R Losey wrote:
> > So I have wonderful GnuCash installed on WIndows 10, on an M1 iMac, and
> on
> > Linux (Ubuntu 22.04LTS).
> >
> > I mostly use the iMac and Windows versions, and I've always kept these
> two
> > versions in sync; that is, when I decided to upgrade to 5.1, I install
> 5.1
> > back-to-back on the iMac and Windows computers... mostly this was due to
> a
> > fear of corrupting the data files by running different versions.
> >
> > But lately, and from education reading this list, I am thinking that the
> > data file format doesn't change, and the GnuCash version is more like a
> > "shell" around which the data file is operated upon, so maybe it's okay
> to
> > have Linux at 4.8 and Windows at 5.5-1 and iMac at 5.3.
> >
> > But I thought I'd run it by this group to see what people think.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>
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Re: [GNC] Running mixed versions (okay?)

[R Losey]

As a follow-up to this, I installed flatpack and installed GnuCash (there
was a lot of good how-to stuff)... what was harder to find (not lots
harder, but enough to be annoying) was how to run it from flatpak. I found
it and am running 5.5.

I then removed the repository GnuCash 4.8 so I won't accidentally run it.


On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 1:11 AM R Losey  wrote:

> Thanks for this... I haven't seen any notice about file changes between
> major versions (probably because - as you say - it is silently checked).
>
> Yes, the Ubuntu version is from the repository. I'll have to look up
> installing flatpak to get the 5.x version of GnuCash - I'm not going to do
> the export/import work. I'd rather just not run it at all on Ubuntu... I
> had been running a flatpak version earlier (that was on the previous LTS
> version, where the repository version was [I think] at 3.x).
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 11:48 AM Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
>
>> There are some changes between major versions. There are checks silently
>> run when you first open your file with a new major version.
>>
>> You can run those checks explicitly via Actions > Check & Repair.
>>
>> The goal is usually to keep compatibility between the last minor release
>> of a major version and the next major version, in case you upgrade, have
>> serious issues, and need to fall back.
>>
>> I wouldn't worry too much about mix-n-match within the same major
>> version (say, all machines on 5.x) but if you have to keep one machine
>> held back, at least get it to the last release of that version. In your
>> case, that would mean getting the Linux box up to 4.14. Since you're
>> using Ubuntu 22.04 and GnuCash 4.8, I'll hazard a guess that was from
>> the Ubuntu repo. You'd need to switch to flatpak to get 4.14 if you
>> don't want to build from source, but in either of those cases, you might
>> as well just bump the Linux box to match your others in the 5.x series.
>>
>> The only alternative I can think of to keep the Linux version at 4.8,
>> would be to export your transactions regularly from one of the other
>> machines and then import them into a separate file used only with 4.8.
>> But that is way more work than even building from source each release,
>> not to mention updating a flatpak.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>>
>> On 2/24/24 10:01 AM, R Losey wrote:
>> > So I have wonderful GnuCash installed on WIndows 10, on an M1 iMac, and
>> on
>> > Linux (Ubuntu 22.04LTS).
>> >
>> > I mostly use the iMac and Windows versions, and I've always kept these
>> two
>> > versions in sync; that is, when I decided to upgrade to 5.1, I install
>> 5.1
>> > back-to-back on the iMac and Windows computers... mostly this was due
>> to a
>> > fear of corrupting the data files by running different versions.
>> >
>> > But lately, and from education reading this list, I am thinking that the
>> > data file format doesn't change, and the GnuCash version is more like a
>> > "shell" around which the data file is operated upon, so maybe it's okay
>> to
>> > have Linux at 4.8 and Windows at 5.5-1 and iMac at 5.3.
>> >
>> > But I thought I'd run it by this group to see what people think.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>>
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Re: [GNC] Running mixed versions (okay?)

[David H]

It's all documented in the wiki at
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak including how to run it :-)

Cheers David H

On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 5:29 pm, R Losey  wrote:

> As a follow-up to this, I installed flatpack and installed GnuCash (there
> was a lot of good how-to stuff)... what was harder to find (not lots
> harder, but enough to be annoying) was how to run it from flatpak. I found
> it and am running 5.5.
>
> I then removed the repository GnuCash 4.8 so I won't accidentally run it.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 1:11 AM R Losey  wrote:
>
> > Thanks for this... I haven't seen any notice about file changes between
> > major versions (probably because - as you say - it is silently checked).
> >
> > Yes, the Ubuntu version is from the repository. I'll have to look up
> > installing flatpak to get the 5.x version of GnuCash - I'm not going to
> do
> > the export/import work. I'd rather just not run it at all on Ubuntu... I
> > had been running a flatpak version earlier (that was on the previous LTS
> > version, where the repository version was [I think] at 3.x).
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 11:48 AM Adrien Monteleone <
> > adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
> >
> >> There are some changes between major versions. There are checks silently
> >> run when you first open your file with a new major version.
> >>
> >> You can run those checks explicitly via Actions > Check & Repair.
> >>
> >> The goal is usually to keep compatibility between the last minor release
> >> of a major version and the next major version, in case you upgrade, have
> >> serious issues, and need to fall back.
> >>
> >> I wouldn't worry too much about mix-n-match within the same major
> >> version (say, all machines on 5.x) but if you have to keep one machine
> >> held back, at least get it to the last release of that version. In your
> >> case, that would mean getting the Linux box up to 4.14. Since you're
> >> using Ubuntu 22.04 and GnuCash 4.8, I'll hazard a guess that was from
> >> the Ubuntu repo. You'd need to switch to flatpak to get 4.14 if you
> >> don't want to build from source, but in either of those cases, you might
> >> as well just bump the Linux box to match your others in the 5.x series.
> >>
> >> The only alternative I can think of to keep the Linux version at 4.8,
> >> would be to export your transactions regularly from one of the other
> >> machines and then import them into a separate file used only with 4.8.
> >> But that is way more work than even building from source each release,
> >> not to mention updating a flatpak.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Adrien
> >>
> >> On 2/24/24 10:01 AM, R Losey wrote:
> >> > So I have wonderful GnuCash installed on WIndows 10, on an M1 iMac,
> and
> >> on
> >> > Linux (Ubuntu 22.04LTS).
> >> >
> >> > I mostly use the iMac and Windows versions, and I've always kept these
> >> two
> >> > versions in sync; that is, when I decided to upgrade to 5.1, I install
> >> 5.1
> >> > back-to-back on the iMac and Windows computers... mostly this was due
> >> to a
> >> > fear of corrupting the data files by running different versions.
> >> >
> >> > But lately, and from education reading this list, I am thinking that
> the
> >> > data file format doesn't change, and the GnuCash version is more like
> a
> >> > "shell" around which the data file is operated upon, so maybe it's
> okay
> >> to
> >> > have Linux at 4.8 and Windows at 5.5-1 and iMac at 5.3.
> >> >
> >> > But I thought I'd run it by this group to see what people think.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >>
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