Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

2023-08-26 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Dimes to Dollars the permissions issue was that Barry was accessing the 
file as one user (Barry Mahon) but it was saved in the tree of another. 
(administrato)


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/25/23 6:30 PM, Maf. King wrote:

I've just had a thought on a possible reason the original file could not be
saved.  I may be barking up the wrong tree.

Does Win have a maximum length for a filename?

If Barry (OP) has been repeatedly opening and working on backups and backups
of backups etc.., is it possible that repeated time-stamps have hit some sort
of string-length limit (either in Win, GC, Gnome-libs or whatever layer)??

Last time I was actively using MS for anything regularly, the filename length
limit was 8+3 ... so I'll defer to pretty much anyone's opinion on this!


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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

2023-08-26 Thread Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user

I'd say you are almost certainly right, Adrian, but.

There I was, sailing along at my usual boring, routine, data entry to 
gnucash, as I have done since 2019.


On entering a transaction I got the message I have copied several times, 
that I don't have rights or space to save the transaction, never saw it 
before.


Put a question on here and a long series of q&a ensued.

I just needed a simple a - what is the meaning of the message? can I 'go 
back' to eliminate it? can I delete the entry? can I close down gnucash 
and restart with a new transaction, etc.


Things like you have two users on the same files, was news to me.

As time went by and the q&a got more complicated I lost the sequence of 
where we were, plus issues with trying to send page images.


Finally, I found myself with a 2022 gnucash file, and nothing else, in 
my administrato folder. BUT, whenever I tried to save that file, just so 
I could get on with my accounts, I got the same 'you need rights' message.


A long way around, but no solution.

The help and advice I have had is terrific, but increasingly confusing. 
I wouldn't say I am an expert in accounting, I have a long history in 
IT, but not specifically in GNU.


The one thing that has created the confusion for me is the bewildering 
array of files associated with my, in my mind, simple, accounting needs. 
I was not, and still am not familiar with the numerous files on the same 
date and time, what is the difference between 'backups' 'logs' and the 
last file I was working on. I appreciate the need to have security in an 
accounting software, but not the range of files.


Longwinded? yes.

Can I recover my situation in time for my tax return date of mid 
November? I think I should delete everything and reload gnucash anew, 
create 2022 and 2023 from my paper files and send the result for 2022 to 
the taxman, (or woman in these liberated days)??


For those who get long strings of posts on the same topic, sorry for 
boring you.


Barry

On 26/08/2023 09:03, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
Dimes to Dollars the permissions issue was that Barry was accessing 
the file as one user (Barry Mahon) but it was saved in the tree of 
another. (administrato)


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/25/23 6:30 PM, Maf. King wrote:
I've just had a thought on a possible reason the original file could 
not be

saved.  I may be barking up the wrong tree.

Does Win have a maximum length for a filename?

If Barry (OP) has been repeatedly opening and working on backups and 
backups
of backups etc.., is it possible that repeated time-stamps have hit 
some sort
of string-length limit (either in Win, GC, Gnome-libs or whatever 
layer)??


Last time I was actively using MS for anything regularly, the 
filename length

limit was 8+3 ... so I'll defer to pretty much anyone's opinion on this!


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Re: [GNC] P&L report for a specified period

2023-08-26 Thread Roger Lewry via gnucash-user
Thank you to Michael Novack for his very clear guidance which has enabled me to 
generate a report for 2019. 
Roger 

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  3. Re:  Profit and loss report (Michael or Penny Novack)
  4. Re:  Issues with gnucash files (Maf. King)
  5. Re:  Fwd: Gnucash (Maf. King)
  6. Re:  Fwd: Gnucash (Stan Brown (using GC 4.14))
  7. Re:  Profit and loss report (Stan Brown (using GC 4.14))
  8. Re:  Fwd: Gnucash (Jeff)
  9. Re:  Fwd: Gnucash (David Cousens)
  10. Re:  Fwd: Gnucash (Adrien Monteleone)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 11:09:54 -0500
From: David Carlson 
To: "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" 
Subject: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Barry,

Please do not send messages to individuals on the Gnucash-user list.
I have no idea what did not go through in that prior email because it
didn't go through.
Then your next sentence confuses me too because I cannot tell if it is a
comment about the user list, about the GnuCash program. about your Email
app or about how permissions for users works in Windows.

-- Forwarded message -
From: Barry Mahon 
Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 10:24?AM
Subject: Gnucash
To: 


Thanks to all.

On the issue of rights, I have never had any issues before this saga, so
should I assume I have had 'rights' to save documents under administrato??

When you say 'truncated' does that mean you cannot see the CaptureWiz
images?? I have had issues all along with Gnucash needing specific file
types to display files for messages, does that apply to gnucash-user?? For
reasons I don't understand I have never been able to copy files from Gnu in
my MS Windows10 to the 'required' format, for queries about Gnucash!!
Quite frustrating.

Finbar


-- 
David Carlson


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 19:31:53 + (UTC)
From: Roger Lewry 
To: "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" 
Subject: [GNC] Profit and loss report
Message-ID: <272559447.654526.1692991913...@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Please can anyone tell me if it is possible to generate a P&L report for a 
previous accounting period? I have been able to create a report for the period 
from 1 January 2023 to the present time but cannot see how to specify a 
different period. For example I would like to have a report for the calendar 
year 2019. Any help will be much appreciated.
I am using version 4.11 on Windows 10 Home 22H2.



Roger

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 15:45:49 -0400
From: Michael or Penny Novack 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Profit and loss report
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

On 8/25/2023 3:31 PM, Roger Lewry via gnucash-user wrote:
> Please can anyone tell me if it is possible to generate a P&L report for a 
> previous accounting period? I have been able to create a report for the 
> period from 1 January 2023 to the present time but cannot see how to specify 
> a different period. For example I would like to have a report for the 
> calendar year 2019. Any help will be much appreciated.
> I am using version 4.11 on Windows 10 Home 22H2.

Rather basic --- you can run this report for ANY (valid) date interval.

edit => report options => general (remember, gnucash is peculiar in that 
first you run a report and THEN you use report options to change it)

In the general specifications you get to choose start and stop date 
(this report is always for a time interval). You don't have to be doing 
the report for "current accounting period" but can change that to any 
(valid) date range you desire.

Michael D Novack

* by valid I mean things like "start date must be before end date" and 
"the date range is meaningful in terms of dates in your books".




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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2023 00:22:37 +0100
From: "Maf. King" 
To: Mahon Finbar 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
Message-ID: <3097604.U3zVgo479M@janus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Friday, 25 August 2023 16:31:47 BST Mahon Finbar wrote:
> As I said, I have had unresolved issues with creating .jpg files from MS.

di

Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

2023-08-26 Thread David Carlson
Barry,
If you do not have a family member or friend that knows a lot about
permission issuess in Windows, go to your local library and ask them to
find someone to help you.

Ununstalling Gnucash amd startimg over will not help.

You will evrntually end up in the same pile of manure.

Never ever "run as administrator" unless you know exactly why you need to.

That is my answer.



On Sat, Aug 26, 2023, 11:02 AM Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> I'd say you are almost certainly right, Adrian, but.
>
> There I was, sailing along at my usual boring, routine, data entry to
> gnucash, as I have done since 2019.
>
> On entering a transaction I got the message I have copied several times,
> that I don't have rights or space to save the transaction, never saw it
> before.
>
> Put a question on here and a long series of q&a ensued.
>
> I just needed a simple a - what is the meaning of the message? can I 'go
> back' to eliminate it? can I delete the entry? can I close down gnucash
> and restart with a new transaction, etc.
>
> Things like you have two users on the same files, was news to me.
>
> As time went by and the q&a got more complicated I lost the sequence of
> where we were, plus issues with trying to send page images.
>
> Finally, I found myself with a 2022 gnucash file, and nothing else, in
> my administrato folder. BUT, whenever I tried to save that file, just so
> I could get on with my accounts, I got the same 'you need rights' message.
>
> A long way around, but no solution.
>
> The help and advice I have had is terrific, but increasingly confusing.
> I wouldn't say I am an expert in accounting, I have a long history in
> IT, but not specifically in GNU.
>
> The one thing that has created the confusion for me is the bewildering
> array of files associated with my, in my mind, simple, accounting needs.
> I was not, and still am not familiar with the numerous files on the same
> date and time, what is the difference between 'backups' 'logs' and the
> last file I was working on. I appreciate the need to have security in an
> accounting software, but not the range of files.
>
> Longwinded? yes.
>
> Can I recover my situation in time for my tax return date of mid
> November? I think I should delete everything and reload gnucash anew,
> create 2022 and 2023 from my paper files and send the result for 2022 to
> the taxman, (or woman in these liberated days)??
>
> For those who get long strings of posts on the same topic, sorry for
> boring you.
>
> Barry
>
> On 26/08/2023 09:03, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> > Dimes to Dollars the permissions issue was that Barry was accessing
> > the file as one user (Barry Mahon) but it was saved in the tree of
> > another. (administrato)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> > On 8/25/23 6:30 PM, Maf. King wrote:
> >> I've just had a thought on a possible reason the original file could
> >> not be
> >> saved.  I may be barking up the wrong tree.
> >>
> >> Does Win have a maximum length for a filename?
> >>
> >> If Barry (OP) has been repeatedly opening and working on backups and
> >> backups
> >> of backups etc.., is it possible that repeated time-stamps have hit
> >> some sort
> >> of string-length limit (either in Win, GC, Gnome-libs or whatever
> >> layer)??
> >>
> >> Last time I was actively using MS for anything regularly, the
> >> filename length
> >> limit was 8+3 ... so I'll defer to pretty much anyone's opinion on this!
> >
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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

2023-08-26 Thread David Cousens
Barry 
If the issue is as Adrien suggests just a matter of which user account the file
was saved under, then by logging in using the other user name your issue should
be resolved. It appears that you may have further complicated the issue in
trying to fix it. The sage advice here is before trying to fix anything make a
backup copy of everything you have before changing anything

Alternatively you can determine the file ownership and the permissions (and
change them if required) it has as described in this post from stack exchange
ttps://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations#:~:text=The%20default%20locations%20are%3A,gnucash
. These are Windows operating system issuesthough not anything to do with the
GnuCash program itself.  As noted on the wiki page the locations where the
configuration information haschanged usually with the major GnuCashversion
number changes, particularly for 2 to 3 and for 3 to 4.

Any files with other extensions (.gcm etc) are going to be meta and
configuration files used internally by gnucash but they don't contain any
accounting data. If you have saved reports though these will be located with the
configuration data as described in the wiki page
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations#:~:text=The%20default%20locations%20are%3A,gnucash
About half way down the page there is a section which has diagrams of the
locations of the configuration data by version number and OS which may be easier
to follow.

The actual data files (.gnucash) plus the various log and back up
files   will be in a user directory location.  and will have the naming formats
as defined here
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup#:~:text=GnuCash%20makes%20local%20backups%20for,gnucash%20suffix
and information on the backup and log and lock file formats is
given 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup#:~:text=GnuCash%20makes%20local%20backups%20for,gnucash%20suffix
.

Our ability to help is limited by our lack of knowledge your system and
installation. You will likely have specified the GnuCash version number (see
Help/About from the menu in GnuCash) and the OS version in an earlier post but
it may help to include that in new posts that go to a new thread in the mailing
list as well. This will save us having to search back through the previous posts
particularly where they are located in separate threads in the mailing list.

This is also where the requests for screenshots and/or file directory lists come
in. Without that information to work with, we are blind and any advice will
necessarily be fairly generic. We need information to help you solve your
problem.

We generally will assume you have a reasonable familiarity with your OS and the
ability to generate screenshots/textfiles from command line commands etc. Google
can usually provide you with appropriate techniques if you don't know them. 

Fairly simple techniques for getting screenshots are described here for example
https://www.esafety.gov.au/report/how-to-collect-evidence/how-to-screenshot-on-windows
Saving them in .jpg or .png formats will usually work best for attaching to
posts. You can use any image processing tool to modify the images to obscure
personal information that doesn't relate to the problem for example.

Your mail client should have a menu option to attach files to a post. Don't copy
the attachment directly into the body of the post as the mailing list  handler
will strip them off.

David Cousens



On Sat, 2023-08-26 at 18:01 +0200, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:
> I'd say you are almost certainly right, Adrian, but.
> 
> There I was, sailing along at my usual boring, routine, data entry to 
> gnucash, as I have done since 2019.
> 
> On entering a transaction I got the message I have copied several times, 
> that I don't have rights or space to save the transaction, never saw it 
> before.
> 
> Put a question on here and a long series of q&a ensued.
> 
> I just needed a simple a - what is the meaning of the message? can I 'go 
> back' to eliminate it? can I delete the entry? can I close down gnucash 
> and restart with a new transaction, etc.
> 
> Things like you have two users on the same files, was news to me.
> 
> As time went by and the q&a got more complicated I lost the sequence of 
> where we were, plus issues with trying to send page images.
> 
> Finally, I found myself with a 2022 gnucash file, and nothing else, in 
> my administrato folder. BUT, whenever I tried to save that file, just so 
> I could get on with my accounts, I got the same 'you need rights' message.
> 
> A long way around, but no solution.
> 
> The help and advice I have had is terrific, but increasingly confusing. 
> I wouldn't say I am an expert in accounting, I have a long history in 
> IT, but not specifically in GNU.
> 
> The one thing that has created the confusion for me is the bewildering 
> array of files associated with my, in my mind, simple, accounting needs. 
> I was not, and still am not familiar with the numerous files on t

Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files

2023-08-26 Thread Carsten Hütter

Hi Barry!

In this newsgroup, screenshots need to be sent as attachements. Pasting 
an in line picture doesn't show anything, it's filtered out.


HTH

Carsten

Am 25.08.23 um 10:58 schrieb Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user:

Thanks to all.

On the issue of rights, I have never had any issues before this saga, so 
should I assume I have had 'rights' to save documents under administrato??


When you say 'truncated' does that mean you cannot see the CaptureWiz 
images?? I have had issues all along with Gnucash needing specific file 
types to display files for messages, does that apply to gnucash-user?? 
For reasons I don't understand I have never been able to copy files from 
Gnu in my MS Windows10 to the 'required' format, for queries about 
Gnucash!! Quite frustrating.


Finbar

On 24/08/2023 21:01, David Carlson wrote:
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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

2023-08-26 Thread R Losey
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Barry Mahon 
> Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 10:24 AM
> Subject: Gnucash
> To: 
>
>
> Thanks to all.
>
> When you say 'truncated' does that mean you cannot see the CaptureWiz
> images?? I have had issues all along with Gnucash needing specific file
> types to display files for messages, does that apply to gnucash-user?? For
> reasons I don't understand I have never been able to copy files from Gnu in
> my MS Windows10 to the 'required' format, for queries about Gnucash!!
> Quite frustrating.
>
> Finbar
>

You do know that Windows 10 has built-in screen and window capture features
(that is, you don't need any other program), right? The Window-PrtScr key
combination will save the entire screen as a file, and Alt-PrtScr will save
the currently highlighted window. These save as PNG files.


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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash

2023-08-26 Thread R Losey
The "You don't have rights" message usually means that either the file or
folder does not have the permissions you'll need (I assume you know whether
or not you're out of space, and that you are not out of space). This error
is common when one user is trying to write files to a  different user's
directory -- most operating systems try to prevent this, and your answers
to the questions people asked indicate that you ran GnuCash as two
different users. One user may have read access to the files, but not write
access.  In that way, you'd go along merrily until the Auto-save kicked in
and then you'd see that error.

You can check the rights on a file (or folder) by right-clicking on it and
selecting "Properties" and then looking at the permissions tab. (note: I'm
not at a windows computer, so I'm going by memory, and I may be incorrect).

It was your answers to questions that started all the Q&A - based on your
posts, it appeared that you were opening backup files instead of the main
file.

I also assume that you are using GnuCash more-or-less as it came (that is,
you did change it to save to a database - you are  still saving to a file
named ".gnucash".

On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 11:02 AM Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> I'd say you are almost certainly right, Adrian, but.
>
> There I was, sailing along at my usual boring, routine, data entry to
> gnucash, as I have done since 2019.
>
> On entering a transaction I got the message I have copied several times,
> that I don't have rights or space to save the transaction, never saw it
> before.
>
> Put a question on here and a long series of q&a ensued.
>
> I just needed a simple a - what is the meaning of the message? can I 'go
> back' to eliminate it? can I delete the entry? can I close down gnucash
> and restart with a new transaction, etc.
>
> Things like you have two users on the same files, was news to me.
>
> As time went by and the q&a got more complicated I lost the sequence of
> where we were, plus issues with trying to send page images.
>
> Finally, I found myself with a 2022 gnucash file, and nothing else, in
> my administrato folder. BUT, whenever I tried to save that file, just so
> I could get on with my accounts, I got the same 'you need rights' message.
>
> A long way around, but no solution.
>
> The help and advice I have had is terrific, but increasingly confusing.
> I wouldn't say I am an expert in accounting, I have a long history in
> IT, but not specifically in GNU.
>
> The one thing that has created the confusion for me is the bewildering
> array of files associated with my, in my mind, simple, accounting needs.
> I was not, and still am not familiar with the numerous files on the same
> date and time, what is the difference between 'backups' 'logs' and the
> last file I was working on. I appreciate the need to have security in an
> accounting software, but not the range of files.
>
> Longwinded? yes.
>
> Can I recover my situation in time for my tax return date of mid
> November? I think I should delete everything and reload gnucash anew,
> create 2022 and 2023 from my paper files and send the result for 2022 to
> the taxman, (or woman in these liberated days)??
>
> For those who get long strings of posts on the same topic, sorry for
> boring you.
>
> Barry
>
> On 26/08/2023 09:03, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> > Dimes to Dollars the permissions issue was that Barry was accessing
> > the file as one user (Barry Mahon) but it was saved in the tree of
> > another. (administrato)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> > On 8/25/23 6:30 PM, Maf. King wrote:
> >> I've just had a thought on a possible reason the original file could
> >> not be
> >> saved.  I may be barking up the wrong tree.
> >>
> >> Does Win have a maximum length for a filename?
> >>
> >> If Barry (OP) has been repeatedly opening and working on backups and
> >> backups
> >> of backups etc.., is it possible that repeated time-stamps have hit
> >> some sort
> >> of string-length limit (either in Win, GC, Gnome-libs or whatever
> >> layer)??
> >>
> >> Last time I was actively using MS for anything regularly, the
> >> filename length
> >> limit was 8+3 ... so I'll defer to pretty much anyone's opinion on this!
> >
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[GNC] Ajuda na Tradução da Documentação para Português Brasil

2023-08-26 Thread Marcondes Araújo
Prezados, boa noite!

Me disponibilizo em ajudar na tradução da pt-BR. Percebi que está em pt-PT.

Atenciosamente,

Marcondes
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