Re: [GNC] Alpha Vantage problems
Hi Robert I have bad news! It looks like Alpha Vantage has been distributing data without the exchange's license all along. A few days ago, TSX data stop working on Alphavantage. That explains why data keeps disappearing on Alpha vantage in recent weeks including real-time US market, LSE, Europe exchanges and now TSX. Check this links: https://www.elitetrader.com/etalpha-vantage-dead https://preview.redd.it/ucr35j For the moment until we find another provider or until Alpha Vantage returns to make the data available I suggest using yahoo_json instead of Alpha Vantage for the markets Toronto (.TO) Toronto Venture (.V) London (.L) London in USD (.IL) Milan (.MI) Oslo (.OL) Copenhagen (.CO) Paris (.PA). This is working for me. Best regards Adriano Baldi Il giorno mar 7 lug 2020 alle ore 14:08 Robert Dean < b...@bobandgilldean.me.uk> ha scritto: > Hi, > > I have also lost access to Alphavantage stocks on LSE. It last worked on > 24 June, but failed on the 25th. I have checked both my stocks with > gnc-fq-dump and neither work, so I have changed to Yahoo-json. > > I'm using Gnucash 3.10 on Fedora 32. > > Regards > Bob Dean > > On 07/07/2020 12:01, Chris Good wrote: > > Hi Adrian, how are you getting quotes from excel? Have you got your > > alphavantage API key specified in GnuCash preferences? > > > > I suggest the next stage would be to test each of the stocks you want to > > use Alphavantage for, with gnc-fq-dump. > > > > Regards, Chris Good > > > > On Tue., 7 Jul. 2020, 7:39 pm Adrian Holbrook, < > adrian.holbr...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Thanks Chris, I think my installation of Finance;;Quote is working fine > as > >> I get quotes from other sources such as Morningstar and Yahoo JSON > without > >> any problem. I think it must be an Alphavantage problem and the next > stage > >> is to try and get quotes using excel and see if that works. In the > short > >> term I have changed my source to Yahoo JSON and that is working. I would > >> just like to be able to get Alphavantage working as well so that if one > >> fails I have a backup source. > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Adrian > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 9:10 AM Chris Good > wrote: > >> > >>> Message: 3 > >>> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 07:58:33 +0100 > >>> From: Adrian Holbrook > >>> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >>> Subject: [GNC] Alpha Vantage problems > >>> Message-ID: > >>> >>> a...@mail.gmail.com> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > >>> > >>> I have been using Alphvantage for about a year now to get quotes > without > >>> any > >>> problems - I had to add in the 15 second delay that was suggested to > stop > >>> it > >>> failing - but since then it has been 100% reliable. I normally download > >>> around 50 prices at a time about once a week. The last successful > download > >>> was on June 12th and since then all attempts have failed. > >>> > >>> All my shares are on the LSE. I have not checked trying to get quotes > from > >>> NYSE but that would be my next test. > >>> I am using Gnucash 4.0 and Finance::Quote 1.49 > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> > >>> Adrian > >>> > >>> Hi Adrian, > >>> > >>> Please follow instructions at > >>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Online_Quotes#Trouble_Shooting > >>> > >>> Regards, Chris Good > >>> > >>> > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?
Frank and I have both opined on https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that the whole interest payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to that opinion that so is the payment transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes reconciling a credit card account. It's a lot of program complexity that relieves the user of very little work indeed: Those interest and payment transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in the register before and after reconciling, and in the case of interest they're an obvious candidate for a scheduled transaction. But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated disagreement. I want to get that out of the way up front: Who here objects to removing the interest and payment transfer automatic popups and the interest payment button on the reconcile info dialog, and what compelling reason do you have for objecting? Regards, John Ralls > On Jul 10, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Adrien Monteleone > wrote: > > Thanks Jean, > > I filed bug: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 for the issue > with the global preference not being honored. > > And bug: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797855 for the button issue > on the two dialogs. > > Feel free to combine them if you like. I wasn't sure of developers' intent > with the global preference, so I filed them separately. > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 7/10/20 5:52 PM, Jean Laroche wrote: >> If you open a bug about it, I can try to fix that (move things to the right >> place etc). At the very least, the global option should be either fixed, or >> removed. >> Jean >> On 7/10/20 3:35 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>> For consistency, that very wide button should probably either be changed to >>> a checkbox, then moved or copied to the Account Edit page as a per-account >>> preference. (it could remain in the dialog for discoverability I suppose, >>> which is what I mean by 'copied') One could change it in either place, but >>> ideally, it should be in one place. >>> >>> I'm not sure a global preference (especially one that is ignored) is >>> necessary if each account can be set separately. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Adrien >>> >>> On 7/10/20 5:16 PM, lj wrote: I figured it out. Duh. There is a button on the Reconcile dialog that says "Enter Interest Payment". In addition to letting you enter an interest payment, clicking that button sets a per-account flag to always prompt for an interest payment when you reconcile. On the Interest Payment dialog, there is a button "No Auto Interest Payments for this Account". (It's very wide, and I didn't realize it was a button.) That cancels the dialog, and also clears the per-account flag so GnuCash will no longer prompt for interest payment when you reconcile. And the global preference Register, Reconciling, Automatic interest transfer? It does NOTHING at all. It sets a preference flag which is never used. It's supposed to be the default for accounts without the auto-interest-payment flag, but it doesn't work. Note that in libgnucash/engine/Account.cpp, the function xaccAccountGetAutoInterestXfer() ignores its default_value argument. >>> >>> ___ >>> gnucash-user mailing list >>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >>> - >>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_List
Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?
While I do not use those features myself, if there are some who do, I would say to keep them. If not On Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 11:41 AM John Ralls wrote: > Frank and I have both opined on > https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that the whole interest > payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to that opinion > that so is the payment transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes > reconciling a credit card account. It's a lot of program complexity that > relieves the user of very little work indeed: Those interest and payment > transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in the > register before and after reconciling, and in the case of interest they're > an obvious candidate for a scheduled transaction. > > But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated > disagreement. I want to get that out of the way up front: Who here objects > to removing the interest and payment transfer automatic popups and the > interest payment button on the reconcile info dialog, and what compelling > reason do you have for objecting? > > Regards, > John Ralls > > > > On Jul 10, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Adrien Monteleone < > adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > > > > Thanks Jean, > > > > I filed bug: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 for the > issue with the global preference not being honored. > > > > And bug: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797855 for the button > issue on the two dialogs. > > > > Feel free to combine them if you like. I wasn't sure of developers' > intent with the global preference, so I filed them separately. > > > > Regards, > > Adrien > > > > On 7/10/20 5:52 PM, Jean Laroche wrote: > >> If you open a bug about it, I can try to fix that (move things to the > right place etc). At the very least, the global option should be either > fixed, or removed. > >> Jean > >> On 7/10/20 3:35 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >>> For consistency, that very wide button should probably either be > changed to a checkbox, then moved or copied to the Account Edit page as a > per-account preference. (it could remain in the dialog for discoverability > I suppose, which is what I mean by 'copied') One could change it in either > place, but ideally, it should be in one place. > >>> > >>> I'm not sure a global preference (especially one that is ignored) is > necessary if each account can be set separately. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Adrien > >>> > >>> On 7/10/20 5:16 PM, lj wrote: > I figured it out. Duh. > > There is a button on the Reconcile dialog that says "Enter Interest > Payment". In addition to letting you enter an interest payment, clicking > that button sets a per-account flag to always prompt for an interest > payment when you reconcile. > > On the Interest Payment dialog, there is a button "No Auto Interest > Payments for this Account". (It's very wide, and I didn't realize it was a > button.) That cancels the dialog, and also clears the per-account flag so > GnuCash will no longer prompt for interest payment when you reconcile. > > And the global preference Register, Reconciling, Automatic interest > transfer? It does NOTHING at all. It sets a preference flag which is never > used. It's supposed to be the default for accounts without the > auto-interest-payment flag, but it doesn't work. Note that in > libgnucash/engine/Account.cpp, the function > xaccAccountGetAutoInterestXfer() ignores its default_value argument. > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> gnucash-user mailing list > >>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > >>> - > >>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > >> ___ > >> gnucash-user mailing list > >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > >> - > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > __
Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?
John, Count me as a supporter of removing these. I long ago disabled that feature on every account. I have always found it easier to enter these transactions myself, especially since I found that the dialog would present a strange subset of accounts that I would override every time. Simplifying in this case makes sense. David T. Original Message From: John Ralls Sent: Sun Jul 12 12:38:32 EDT 2020 To: Adrien Monteleone Cc: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box? Frank and I have both opined on https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that the whole interest payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to that opinion that so is the payment transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes reconciling a credit card account. It's a lot of program complexity that relieves the user of very little work indeed: Those interest and payment transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in the register before and after reconciling, and in the case of interest they're an obvious candidate for a scheduled transaction. But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated disagreement. I want to get that out of the way up front: Who here objects to removing the interest and payment transfer automatic popups and the interest payment button on the reconcile info dialog, and what compelling reason do you have for objecting? Regards, John Ralls > On Jul 10, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Adrien Monteleone > wrote: > > Thanks Jean, > > I filed bug: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 for the issue > with the global preference not being honored. > > And bug: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797855 for the button issue > on the two dialogs. > > Feel free to combine them if you like. I wasn't sure of developers' intent > with the global preference, so I filed them separately. > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 7/10/20 5:52 PM, Jean Laroche wrote: >> If you open a bug about it, I can try to fix that (move things to the right >> place etc). At the very least, the global option should be either fixed, or >> removed. >> Jean >> On 7/10/20 3:35 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>> For consistency, that very wide button should probably either be changed to >>> a checkbox, then moved or copied to the Account Edit page as a per-account >>> preference. (it could remain in the dialog for discoverability I suppose, >>> which is what I mean by 'copied') One could change it in either place, but >>> ideally, it should be in one place. >>> >>> I'm not sure a global preference (especially one that is ignored) is >>> necessary if each account can be set separately. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Adrien >>> >>> On 7/10/20 5:16 PM, lj wrote: I figured it out. Duh. There is a button on the Reconcile dialog that says "Enter Interest Payment". In addition to letting you enter an interest payment, clicking that button sets a per-account flag to always prompt for an interest payment when you reconcile. On the Interest Payment dialog, there is a button "No Auto Interest Payments for this Account". (It's very wide, and I didn't realize it was a button.) That cancels the dialog, and also clears the per-account flag so GnuCash will no longer prompt for interest payment when you reconcile. And the global preference Register, Reconciling, Automatic interest transfer? It does NOTHING at all. It sets a preference flag which is never used. It's supposed to be the default for accounts without the auto-interest-payment flag, but it doesn't work. Note that in libgnucash/engine/Account.cpp, the function xaccAccountGetAutoInterestXfer() ignores its default_value argument. >>> >>> ___ >>> gnucash-user mailing list >>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >>> - >>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/
Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?
> On 12 Jul 2020, at 17:38, John Ralls wrote: > > Frank and I have both opined on > https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that the whole interest > payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to that opinion that > so is the payment transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes > reconciling a credit card account. It's a lot of program complexity that > relieves the user of very little work indeed: Those interest and payment > transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in the > register before and after reconciling, and in the case of interest they're an > obvious candidate for a scheduled transaction. > > But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated disagreement. I > want to get that out of the way up front: Who here objects to removing the > interest and payment transfer automatic popups and the interest payment > button on the reconcile info dialog, and what compelling reason do you have > for objecting? > > Regards, > John Ralls I don’t use the interest feature, as I have the credit card paid off every month by direct debit, and have never paid interest. I do use the automatic payment feature (from bank to credit card), and find it helpful, but not essential. If it were withdrawn I expect it would take a while to get out of old habits (ten years since I first started using GC!), but I’d cope. Regards, Michael ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?
Personally, I don't find this feature useful and indeed, it would simplify the code to just remove it... Jean On 7/12/2020 11:07 AM, Michael Hendry wrote: On 12 Jul 2020, at 17:38, John Ralls wrote: Frank and I have both opined on https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that the whole interest payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to that opinion that so is the payment transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes reconciling a credit card account. It's a lot of program complexity that relieves the user of very little work indeed: Those interest and payment transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in the register before and after reconciling, and in the case of interest they're an obvious candidate for a scheduled transaction. But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated disagreement. I want to get that out of the way up front: Who here objects to removing the interest and payment transfer automatic popups and the interest payment button on the reconcile info dialog, and what compelling reason do you have for objecting? Regards, John Ralls I don’t use the interest feature, as I have the credit card paid off every month by direct debit, and have never paid interest. I do use the automatic payment feature (from bank to credit card), and find it helpful, but not essential. If it were withdrawn I expect it would take a while to get out of old habits (ten years since I first started using GC!), but I’d cope. Regards, Michael ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?
I actually use the interest payment box to add a monthly interest transaction when I reconcile my accounts. I never use the credit card payment box that comes up when you finish reconciling a credit card account.. Will On 2020 Jul 12, at 07-12 13:32:08, jean laroche wrote: Personally, I don't find this feature useful and indeed, it would simplify the code to just remove it... Jean On 7/12/2020 11:07 AM, Michael Hendry wrote: >> On 12 Jul 2020, at 17:38, John Ralls wrote: >> >> Frank and I have both opined on >> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that the whole interest >> payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to that opinion that >> so is the payment transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes >> reconciling a credit card account. It's a lot of program complexity that >> relieves the user of very little work indeed: Those interest and payment >> transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in the >> register before and after reconciling, and in the case of interest they're >> an obvious candidate for a scheduled transaction. >> >> But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated disagreement. >> I want to get that out of the way up front: Who here objects to removing the >> interest and payment transfer automatic popups and the interest payment >> button on the reconcile info dialog, and what compelling reason do you have >> for objecting? >> >> Regards, >> John Ralls > I don’t use the interest feature, as I have the credit card paid off every > month by direct debit, and have never paid interest. > > I do use the automatic payment feature (from bank to credit card), and find > it helpful, but not essential. If it were withdrawn I expect it would take a > while to get out of old habits (ten years since I first started using GC!), > but I’d cope. > > Regards, > > Michael > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?
Hi As removing the facilities simplifies the programming I'm in favour of removing them. I find the pop-ups annoying and I never make use of them Take care Eric ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?
Would it cause you any pain to enter the interest transaction in the register before clicking reconcile instead? Regards, John Ralls > On Jul 12, 2020, at 11:49 AM, w...@theprescotts.com wrote: > > I actually use the interest payment box to add a monthly interest transaction > when I reconcile my accounts. I never use the credit card payment box that > comes up when you finish reconciling a credit card account.. > > Will > > On 2020 Jul 12, at 07-12 13:32:08, jean laroche wrote: > > Personally, I don't find this feature useful and indeed, it would simplify > the code to just remove it... > Jean > > > On 7/12/2020 11:07 AM, Michael Hendry wrote: >>> On 12 Jul 2020, at 17:38, John Ralls wrote: >>> >>> Frank and I have both opined on >>> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that the whole interest >>> payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to that opinion >>> that so is the payment transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes >>> reconciling a credit card account. It's a lot of program complexity that >>> relieves the user of very little work indeed: Those interest and payment >>> transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in the >>> register before and after reconciling, and in the case of interest they're >>> an obvious candidate for a scheduled transaction. >>> >>> But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated disagreement. >>> I want to get that out of the way up front: Who here objects to removing >>> the interest and payment transfer automatic popups and the interest payment >>> button on the reconcile info dialog, and what compelling reason do you have >>> for objecting? >>> >>> Regards, >>> John Ralls >> I don’t use the interest feature, as I have the credit card paid off every >> month by direct debit, and have never paid interest. >> >> I do use the automatic payment feature (from bank to credit card), and find >> it helpful, but not essential. If it were withdrawn I expect it would take a >> while to get out of old habits (ten years since I first started using GC!), >> but I’d cope. >> >> Regards, >> >> Michael >> >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Prevent register from auto-duplicating transactions?
Example: In a trip to the supermarket I buy food, wine, flowers, and cleaning supplies. To record that, I enter a transaction in GC, in the register for my credit card: Description = (store name) Click the Split button. In each of four splits, Memo = details of what I bought, Account = (account for that type of expense), Debit = (amount) In the fifth split, Memo = blank, Account = (credit card), credit = (total) All of that is fine. (I don't divide that purchase into four transactions, because I want the credit amount to match what will be shown on my credit-card statement.) But here's the problem. On the next trip to that store, I buy only food. What I want to do, in the account register for my credit card, is enter Description = (store name), Transfer = "Groceries", Credit = (amount). But as soon as I enter the store name in description, GC creates five splits that duplicate that previous shopping trip. I have to click Split and manually delete three splits, one at a time. Is there some way to tell GC "don't finish this one transaction for me"? Or, almost as good, when it does do the auto-complete, is there some way to tell it "not this time, thank you", and have it delete all of what it helpfully created for me?? -- Regards, Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA https://BrownMath.com https://OakRoadSystems.com ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Prevent register from auto-duplicating transactions?
Sort of. When it autocompletes hit right-arrow to move to the end of the autocompleted string and add an extra character, then tab. That will prevent GnuCash from copying in the transaction and you can fill in the account and credit/debit fields, then tab back to description and remove the extra character and press Enter to complete the transaction. Regards, John Ralls > On Jul 12, 2020, at 12:27 PM, Stan Brown wrote: > > Example: In a trip to the supermarket I buy food, wine, flowers, and > cleaning supplies. To record that, I enter a transaction in GC, in the > register for my credit card: > Description = (store name) > Click the Split button. > In each of four splits, Memo = details of what I bought, Account = > (account for that type of expense), Debit = (amount) > In the fifth split, Memo = blank, Account = (credit card), credit = (total) > All of that is fine. (I don't divide that purchase into four > transactions, because I want the credit amount to match what will be > shown on my credit-card statement.) > > But here's the problem. On the next trip to that store, I buy only food. > What I want to do, in the account register for my credit card, is enter > Description = (store name), Transfer = "Groceries", Credit = (amount). > But as soon as I enter the store name in description, GC creates five > splits that duplicate that previous shopping trip. I have to click Split > and manually delete three splits, one at a time. > > Is there some way to tell GC "don't finish this one transaction for me"? > > Or, almost as good, when it does do the auto-complete, is there some way > to tell it "not this time, thank you", and have it delete all of what it > helpfully created for me?? > > -- > Regards, > Stan Brown > Tehachapi, CA, USA > https://BrownMath.com > https://OakRoadSystems.com > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Prevent register from auto-duplicating transactions?
Thanks, John, for the super-fast reply. I'm embarrassed I didn't think of that myself -- just add some extra text in Description so that it's no longer a match to any prior transactions in the register. Thanks again! -- Regards, Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA https://BrownMath.com https://OakRoadSystems.com On 2020-07-12 13:03, John Ralls wrote: > Sort of. When it autocompletes hit right-arrow to move to the end of the > autocompleted string and add an extra character, then tab. That will prevent > GnuCash from copying in the transaction and you can fill in the account and > credit/debit fields, then tab back to description and remove the extra > character and press Enter to complete the transaction. > > Regards, > John Ralls > > >> On Jul 12, 2020, at 12:27 PM, Stan Brown wrote: >> >> Example: In a trip to the supermarket I buy food, wine, flowers, and >> cleaning supplies. To record that, I enter a transaction in GC, in the >> register for my credit card: >> Description = (store name) >> Click the Split button. >> In each of four splits, Memo = details of what I bought, Account = >> (account for that type of expense), Debit = (amount) >> In the fifth split, Memo = blank, Account = (credit card), credit = (total) >> All of that is fine. (I don't divide that purchase into four >> transactions, because I want the credit amount to match what will be >> shown on my credit-card statement.) >> >> But here's the problem. On the next trip to that store, I buy only food. >> What I want to do, in the account register for my credit card, is enter >> Description = (store name), Transfer = "Groceries", Credit = (amount). >> But as soon as I enter the store name in description, GC creates five >> splits that duplicate that previous shopping trip. I have to click Split >> and manually delete three splits, one at a time. >> >> Is there some way to tell GC "don't finish this one transaction for me"? >> >> Or, almost as good, when it does do the auto-complete, is there some way >> to tell it "not this time, thank you", and have it delete all of what it >> helpfully created for me?? ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Prevent register from auto-duplicating transactions?
I've often struggled with this problem as well. Another way to handle it would be to create two different transaction descriptions, each beginning with a different descriptive string or code, like "G- Store" and "M- Store". You could go with "Store- G" etc., but then you have to type more... David T. Original Message From: John Ralls Sent: Sun Jul 12 16:03:18 EDT 2020 To: Stan Brown Cc: GnuCash User List Subject: Re: [GNC] Prevent register from auto-duplicating transactions? Sort of. When it autocompletes hit right-arrow to move to the end of the autocompleted string and add an extra character, then tab. That will prevent GnuCash from copying in the transaction and you can fill in the account and credit/debit fields, then tab back to description and remove the extra character and press Enter to complete the transaction. Regards, John Ralls > On Jul 12, 2020, at 12:27 PM, Stan Brown wrote: > > Example: In a trip to the supermarket I buy food, wine, flowers, and > cleaning supplies. To record that, I enter a transaction in GC, in the > register for my credit card: > Description = (store name) > Click the Split button. > In each of four splits, Memo = details of what I bought, Account = > (account for that type of expense), Debit = (amount) > In the fifth split, Memo = blank, Account = (credit card), credit = (total) > All of that is fine. (I don't divide that purchase into four > transactions, because I want the credit amount to match what will be > shown on my credit-card statement.) > > But here's the problem. On the next trip to that store, I buy only food. > What I want to do, in the account register for my credit card, is enter > Description = (store name), Transfer = "Groceries", Credit = (amount). > But as soon as I enter the store name in description, GC creates five > splits that duplicate that previous shopping trip. I have to click Split > and manually delete three splits, one at a time. > > Is there some way to tell GC "don't finish this one transaction for me"? > > Or, almost as good, when it does do the auto-complete, is there some way > to tell it "not this time, thank you", and have it delete all of what it > helpfully created for me?? > > -- > Regards, > Stan Brown > Tehachapi, CA, USA > https://BrownMath.com > https://OakRoadSystems.com > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 208, Issue 43
I also do not have a problem removing the pop up windows, especially if it helps simplify programming the UI. I have used them in the past, but can just as easily get by without. Scott On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 11:57 AM wrote: > Send gnucash-user mailing list submissions to > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > gnucash-user-ow...@gnucash.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of gnucash-user digest..." > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box? (John Ralls) >2. Re: Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box? (David Carlson) >3. Re: Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box? (D.) >4. Re: Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box? (Michael Hendry) >5. Re: Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box? (jean laroche) >6. Re: Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box? > (w...@theprescotts.com) >7. Re: Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box? (Eric Coates) >8. Re: Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box? (John Ralls) > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: John Ralls > To: Adrien Monteleone > Cc: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 09:38:32 -0700 > Subject: Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box? > Frank and I have both opined on > https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that the whole interest > payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to that opinion > that so is the payment transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes > reconciling a credit card account. It's a lot of program complexity that > relieves the user of very little work indeed: Those interest and payment > transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in the > register before and after reconciling, and in the case of interest they're > an obvious candidate for a scheduled transaction. > > But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated > disagreement. I want to get that out of the way up front: Who here objects > to removing the interest and payment transfer automatic popups and the > interest payment button on the reconcile info dialog, and what compelling > reason do you have for objecting? > > Regards, > John Ralls > > > > On Jul 10, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Adrien Monteleone < > adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > > > > Thanks Jean, > > > > I filed bug: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 for the > issue with the global preference not being honored. > > > > And bug: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797855 for the button > issue on the two dialogs. > > > > Feel free to combine them if you like. I wasn't sure of developers' > intent with the global preference, so I filed them separately. > > > > Regards, > > Adrien > > > > On 7/10/20 5:52 PM, Jean Laroche wrote: > >> If you open a bug about it, I can try to fix that (move things to the > right place etc). At the very least, the global option should be either > fixed, or removed. > >> Jean > >> On 7/10/20 3:35 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >>> For consistency, that very wide button should probably either be > changed to a checkbox, then moved or copied to the Account Edit page as a > per-account preference. (it could remain in the dialog for discoverability > I suppose, which is what I mean by 'copied') One could change it in either > place, but ideally, it should be in one place. > >>> > >>> I'm not sure a global preference (especially one that is ignored) is > necessary if each account can be set separately. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Adrien > >>> > >>> On 7/10/20 5:16 PM, lj wrote: > I figured it out. Duh. > > There is a button on the Reconcile dialog that says "Enter Interest > Payment". In addition to letting you enter an interest payment, clicking > that button sets a per-account flag to always prompt for an interest > payment when you reconcile. > > On the Interest Payment dialog, there is a button "No Auto Interest > Payments for this Account". (It's very wide, and I didn't realize it was a > button.) That cancels the dialog, and also clears the per-account flag so > GnuCash will no longer prompt for interest payment when you reconcile. > > And the global preference Register, Reconciling, Automatic interest > transfer? It does NOTHING at all. It sets a preference flag which is never > used. It's supposed to be the default for accounts without the > auto-interest-payment flag, but it doesn't work. Note that in > libgnucash/engine/Account.cpp, the function > xaccAccountGetAutoInterestXfer() ignores its default_value argument. > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> gnucash-user ma
Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?
John, I almost always pay off entire credit card balances, so I rarely ever use the "interest charge" pop-up.However, I do use the "interest earned" pop-up associated with bank accounts. I find it a convenient reminder for me to enter that figure before I begin checking-off transactions in the reconcile window.Similarly, I use (and appreciate) the "payment transaction" pop-up window associated with credit card accounts. The fact that it remembers and prepopulates my usual source account for the payment is also a handy convenience for me. Could I do without these two features? Certainly. Do I find them helpful and time-saving for me? Yes.Compelling reasons? While I find them helpful, I can't say that I have any. If you want a survey of your users, I don't believe that this list is the best method. I would suggest that you set up a free account on Survey Monkey, create your questions there and post a link on this list. It will accumulate the results for you and is much less effort than trying to track responses here. I'd be happy to create one for you based on what you asked below. However, if you wanted to write your own questions, it might be better for you to do it. Meanwhile, a huge "Thank You" to you and the entire team for all the effort that you folks put into the software--and in answering questions on this list! Regards,Larry Long > On Sunday, July 12, 2020, John Ralls wrote: > > Frank and I have both opined on https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that the whole > interest payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to that > opinion that so is the payment > transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes reconciling a credit card > account. It's a lot of > program complexity that relieves the user of very little work indeed: Those > interest and payment > transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in the > register before and after > reconciling, and in the case of interest they're an obvious candidate for a > scheduled transaction. > But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated disagreement. I > want to get that out > of the way up front: Who here objects to removing the interest and payment > transfer automatic popups > and the interest payment button on the reconcile info dialog, and what > compelling reason do you have > for objecting? > > Regards, > John Ralls ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?
Hi John, No worries here either. I never use this feature and the monthly credit card payments are taken care of by a scheduled txn as they occur on pretty much the same day each month and all I generally ever have to do is update the amount and occasionally the date. At odd times I used to have the payment dialog popping up even though it was turned off in the global setting but I see you guys have that bug sorted. On the very rare occasion I need to enter an interest txn I'm more than happy to enter it manually - I think I might have done one of these in the last 18 months :-) So I say go for it. Regards David H. On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 at 02:41, John Ralls wrote: > Frank and I have both opined on > https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that the whole interest > payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to that opinion > that so is the payment transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes > reconciling a credit card account. It's a lot of program complexity that > relieves the user of very little work indeed: Those interest and payment > transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in the > register before and after reconciling, and in the case of interest they're > an obvious candidate for a scheduled transaction. > > But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated > disagreement. I want to get that out of the way up front: Who here objects > to removing the interest and payment transfer automatic popups and the > interest payment button on the reconcile info dialog, and what compelling > reason do you have for objecting? > > Regards, > John Ralls > > > > On Jul 10, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Adrien Monteleone < > adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > > > > Thanks Jean, > > > > I filed bug: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 for the > issue with the global preference not being honored. > > > > And bug: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797855 for the button > issue on the two dialogs. > > > > Feel free to combine them if you like. I wasn't sure of developers' > intent with the global preference, so I filed them separately. > > > > Regards, > > Adrien > > > > On 7/10/20 5:52 PM, Jean Laroche wrote: > >> If you open a bug about it, I can try to fix that (move things to the > right place etc). At the very least, the global option should be either > fixed, or removed. > >> Jean > >> On 7/10/20 3:35 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >>> For consistency, that very wide button should probably either be > changed to a checkbox, then moved or copied to the Account Edit page as a > per-account preference. (it could remain in the dialog for discoverability > I suppose, which is what I mean by 'copied') One could change it in either > place, but ideally, it should be in one place. > >>> > >>> I'm not sure a global preference (especially one that is ignored) is > necessary if each account can be set separately. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Adrien > >>> > >>> On 7/10/20 5:16 PM, lj wrote: > I figured it out. Duh. > > There is a button on the Reconcile dialog that says "Enter Interest > Payment". In addition to letting you enter an interest payment, clicking > that button sets a per-account flag to always prompt for an interest > payment when you reconcile. > > On the Interest Payment dialog, there is a button "No Auto Interest > Payments for this Account". (It's very wide, and I didn't realize it was a > button.) That cancels the dialog, and also clears the per-account flag so > GnuCash will no longer prompt for interest payment when you reconcile. > > And the global preference Register, Reconciling, Automatic interest > transfer? It does NOTHING at all. It sets a preference flag which is never > used. It's supposed to be the default for accounts without the > auto-interest-payment flag, but it doesn't work. Note that in > libgnucash/engine/Account.cpp, the function > xaccAccountGetAutoInterestXfer() ignores its default_value argument. > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> gnucash-user mailing list > >>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > >>> - > >>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > >> ___ > >> gnucash-user mailing list > >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > >> - > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > _
Re: [GNC] Alpha Vantage problems
Thanks Adriano. Although it is not good news at least now I do not have to keep on trying out different things to work out why it is not working! Regards Adrian On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:57 PM Adriano Baldi wrote: > Hi, to all > > I have bad news! > > It looks like Alphavantage has been distributing data without the > exchange's license all along. A few days ago, TSX data stop working on > Alphavantage. > That explains why data keeps disappearing on Alpha vantage in recent weeks > including real-time US market, LSE, Europe exchanges and now TSX. > > Check this links: > https://www.elitetrader.com/etalpha-vantage-dead > < > https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/is-alpha-vantage-dead.347236/#post-5150781 > > > https://preview.redd.it/ucr35j > < > https://preview.redd.it/ucr35jx3sr951.png?width=1194&format=png&auto=webp&s=ec28ce816b00a6740ec14a5219a196f85b497aef > > > > Best regards > > Adriano Baldi > > Il giorno mer 8 lug 2020 alle ore 10:15 Chris Good > ha scritto: > > > Hi Bob, > > > > Good to know. Can you give an example of a stock and the symbol you used > > that used to work please? > > > > Regards, Chris Good > > > > Message: 9 > > Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:06:11 +0100 > > From: Robert Dean > > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > Subject: Re: [GNC] Alpha Vantage problems > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > > > Hi, > > > > I have also lost access to Alphavantage stocks on LSE. It last worked on > > 24 June, but failed on the 25th. I have checked both my stocks with > > gnc-fq-dump and neither work, so I have changed to Yahoo-json. > > > > I'm using Gnucash 3.10 on Fedora 32. > > > > Regards > > Bob Dean > > > > On 07/07/2020 12:01, Chris Good wrote: > > > Hi Adrian, how are you getting quotes from excel? Have you got your > > > alphavantage API key specified in GnuCash preferences? > > > > > > I suggest the next stage would be to test each of the stocks you want > > > to use Alphavantage for, with gnc-fq-dump. > > > > > > Regards, Chris Good > > > > > > On Tue., 7 Jul. 2020, 7:39 pm Adrian Holbrook, > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Thanks Chris, I think my installation of Finance;;Quote is working > > >> fine as I get quotes from other sources such as Morningstar and Yahoo > > >> JSON without any problem. I think it must be an Alphavantage problem > > >> and the next stage is to try and get quotes using excel and see if > > >> that works. In the short term I have changed my source to Yahoo JSON > > >> and that is working. I would just like to be able to get Alphavantage > > >> working as well so that if one fails I have a backup source. > > >> > > >> Regards > > >> > > >> Adrian > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 9:10 AM Chris Good > > wrote: > > >> > > >>> Message: 3 > > >>> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 07:58:33 +0100 > > >>> From: Adrian Holbrook > > >>> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > >>> Subject: [GNC] Alpha Vantage problems > > >>> Message-ID: > > >>> > >>> a...@mail.gmail.com> > > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > >>> > > >>> I have been using Alphvantage for about a year now to get quotes > > >>> without any problems - I had to add in the 15 second delay that was > > >>> suggested to stop it failing - but since then it has been 100% > > >>> reliable. I normally download around 50 prices at a time about once > > >>> a week. The last successful download was on June 12th and since then > > >>> all attempts have failed. > > >>> > > >>> All my shares are on the LSE. I have not checked trying to get > > >>> quotes from NYSE but that would be my next test. > > >>> I am using Gnucash 4.0 and Finance::Quote 1.49 > > >>> > > >>> Regards > > >>> > > >>> Adrian > > >>> > > >>> Hi Adrian, > > >>> > > >>> Please follow instructions at > > >>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Online_Quotes#Trouble_Shooting > > >>> > > >>> Regards, Chris Good > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to
Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?
Incidentally, I replied earlier that I use the interest popup but not the credit payment popup. I could easily do without either one. I have the credit card payment as a regularly scheduled transaction with no amounts filled in. I would probably do the same with the interest transactions if the popup went away. Or maybe I will do it anyway now. Will On 2020 Jul 12, at 07-12 16:14:31, David H wrote: Hi John, No worries here either. I never use this feature and the monthly credit card payments are taken care of by a scheduled txn as they occur on pretty much the same day each month and all I generally ever have to do is update the amount and occasionally the date. At odd times I used to have the payment dialog popping up even though it was turned off in the global setting but I see you guys have that bug sorted. On the very rare occasion I need to enter an interest txn I'm more than happy to enter it manually - I think I might have done one of these in the last 18 months :-) So I say go for it. Regards David H. On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 at 02:41, John Ralls wrote: > Frank and I have both opined on > https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that the whole interest > payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to that opinion > that so is the payment transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes > reconciling a credit card account. It's a lot of program complexity that > relieves the user of very little work indeed: Those interest and payment > transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in the > register before and after reconciling, and in the case of interest they're > an obvious candidate for a scheduled transaction. > > But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated > disagreement. I want to get that out of the way up front: Who here objects > to removing the interest and payment transfer automatic popups and the > interest payment button on the reconcile info dialog, and what compelling > reason do you have for objecting? > > Regards, > John Ralls > > >> On Jul 10, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Adrien Monteleone < > adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: >> >> Thanks Jean, >> >> I filed bug: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 for the > issue with the global preference not being honored. >> >> And bug: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797855 for the button > issue on the two dialogs. >> >> Feel free to combine them if you like. I wasn't sure of developers' > intent with the global preference, so I filed them separately. >> >> Regards, >> Adrien >> >> On 7/10/20 5:52 PM, Jean Laroche wrote: >>> If you open a bug about it, I can try to fix that (move things to the > right place etc). At the very least, the global option should be either > fixed, or removed. >>> Jean >>> On 7/10/20 3:35 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: For consistency, that very wide button should probably either be > changed to a checkbox, then moved or copied to the Account Edit page as a > per-account preference. (it could remain in the dialog for discoverability > I suppose, which is what I mean by 'copied') One could change it in either > place, but ideally, it should be in one place. I'm not sure a global preference (especially one that is ignored) is > necessary if each account can be set separately. Regards, Adrien On 7/10/20 5:16 PM, lj wrote: > I figured it out. Duh. > > There is a button on the Reconcile dialog that says "Enter Interest > Payment". In addition to letting you enter an interest payment, clicking > that button sets a per-account flag to always prompt for an interest > payment when you reconcile. > > On the Interest Payment dialog, there is a button "No Auto Interest > Payments for this Account". (It's very wide, and I didn't realize it was a > button.) That cancels the dialog, and also clears the per-account flag so > GnuCash will no longer prompt for interest payment when you reconcile. > > And the global preference Register, Reconciling, Automatic interest > transfer? It does NOTHING at all. It sets a preference flag which is never > used. It's supposed to be the default for accounts without the > auto-interest-payment flag, but it doesn't work. Note that in > libgnucash/engine/Account.cpp, the function > xaccAccountGetAutoInterestXfer() ignores its default_value argument. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >>> ___ >>> gnucash-user mailing list >>> gnucash-user@gnucash.
Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?
I have a scheduled transaction set up for autopay on my credit card accounts; all I have to do is fill in the amount, so I don't need the annoying (albeit not life-threatening) popup. And I pay my credit card bills in full every month; I don't know when I last paid interest, so that popup is also superfluous, at least for me. Decades ago, my mother — a one-time bookkeeper, back in the days of paper ledgers and Bic Accountant extra-fine point pens (or maybe even the fountain pen equivalent) — stressed the importance of reconciling my checkbook, and I do so religiously, if not always with immediate success, still. I even occasionally reconcile my brokerage account to make sure my GnuCash has the same number of shares as they do. So please, do not get rid of reconciliation. I would probably have to go back to Quicken. Thanks, Art ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?
Regarding reconciling. It is almost the only thing I use Gnucash for. I have 14 or 15 accounts in one Gnucash file and 5 or 6 in another. Reconciling the accounts forces me to look at the statements. Without it I would probably never notice if any fraudulent transactions were charged to my accounts. Will ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?
I use the interest pop-up on one account but could easily do without it. I do use credit card payment after reconciliation on several accounts and like it. If the feature disappeared, it would not be a big deal. I know nothing about the actual code, but would it be simpler to skip the pop-up window and automatically directly create a register transaction for the payment? The pop-up window already makes use of memorized transactions and is basically just a different look for creating a transaction. In more detail: There is a user preference checkbox as to whether a payment will be automatically created. At the completion of the credit card account reconciliation, if the preference is active, the reconcile window closes and a register transaction appears which is partially completed as follows. Date: Today Description: [Account Name] payment Debit: [Reconcile Account] statement balance Credit: [Empty] statement balance Focus lands on Description with transaction in "split" mode or double line/journal mode (if default). (Perhaps with description entry highlighted so that "delete" erases entry.) The user then finishes the transaction. My guess is that typically the user pays from the same account every time. The typical user would hit delete, start typing the memorized description, that and the credit account would be automatically created. The user would need to adjust the date and payment amount. One general comment on discussions like this. Currently all of the comments are about the programming. What is not being considered is making the product attractive to users and in particular to users who are migrating from commercial products such as Quickbooks. Those products are loaded with user friendly features such as interest and payment pop-ups. Dale On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 11:42 AM John Ralls wrote: > Frank and I have both opined on > https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that the whole interest > payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to that opinion > that so is the payment transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes > reconciling a credit card account. It's a lot of program complexity that > relieves the user of very little work indeed: Those interest and payment > transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in the > register before and after reconciling, and in the case of interest they're > an obvious candidate for a scheduled transaction. > > But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated > disagreement. I want to get that out of the way up front: Who here objects > to removing the interest and payment transfer automatic popups and the > interest payment button on the reconcile info dialog, and what compelling > reason do you have for objecting? > > Regards, > John Ralls > > > > On Jul 10, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Adrien Monteleone < > adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > > > > Thanks Jean, > > > > I filed bug: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 for the > issue with the global preference not being honored. > > > > And bug: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797855 for the button > issue on the two dialogs. > > > > Feel free to combine them if you like. I wasn't sure of developers' > intent with the global preference, so I filed them separately. > > > > Regards, > > Adrien > > > > On 7/10/20 5:52 PM, Jean Laroche wrote: > >> If you open a bug about it, I can try to fix that (move things to the > right place etc). At the very least, the global option should be either > fixed, or removed. > >> Jean > >> On 7/10/20 3:35 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >>> For consistency, that very wide button should probably either be > changed to a checkbox, then moved or copied to the Account Edit page as a > per-account preference. (it could remain in the dialog for discoverability > I suppose, which is what I mean by 'copied') One could change it in either > place, but ideally, it should be in one place. > >>> > >>> I'm not sure a global preference (especially one that is ignored) is > necessary if each account can be set separately. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Adrien > >>> > >>> On 7/10/20 5:16 PM, lj wrote: > I figured it out. Duh. > > There is a button on the Reconcile dialog that says "Enter Interest > Payment". In addition to letting you enter an interest payment, clicking > that button sets a per-account flag to always prompt for an interest > payment when you reconcile. > > On the Interest Payment dialog, there is a button "No Auto Interest > Payments for this Account". (It's very wide, and I didn't realize it was a > button.) That cancels the dialog, and also clears the per-account flag so > GnuCash will no longer prompt for interest payment when you reconcile. > > And the global preference Register, Reconciling, Automatic interest > transfer? It does NOTHING at all. It sets a preference flag which is never > used. It's supposed to be the default for accounts without the > auto-interest-p
Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?
Larry, Thanks for the offer, but I wouldn't want to turn our users into more product for survey monkey. Besides, I'm not looking for votes, I'm looking for reasons why removing the dialogs might be a bad thing. A single person with a persuasive reason would outweigh all of the "don't cares". To your points: A Scheduled Transaction is an even better reminder and quick fill (aka autocomplete) in the register will fill in the last payment account too. What quickfill won't do is pre-populate the credit field with the reconciled balance. Regards, John Ralls > On Jul 12, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Larry Long wrote: > > John, I almost always pay off entire credit card balances, so I rarely ever > use the "interest charge" pop-up.However, I do use the "interest earned" > pop-up associated with bank accounts. > I find it a convenient reminder for me to enter that figure before I begin > checking-off transactions in the reconcile window.Similarly, I use (and > appreciate) the "payment transaction" pop-up window associated with credit > card accounts. The fact that it remembers and prepopulates my usual source > account for the payment is also a handy convenience for me. > Could I do without these two features? Certainly. > Do I find them helpful and time-saving for me? Yes.Compelling reasons? > While I find them helpful, I can't say that I have any. > If you want a survey of your users, I don't believe that this list is the > best method. > I would suggest that you set up a free account on Survey Monkey, create your > questions there and post a link on this list. It will accumulate the results > for you and is much less effort than trying to track responses here. > I'd be happy to create one for you based on what you asked below. However, > if you wanted to write your own questions, it might be better for you to do > it. > Meanwhile, a huge "Thank You" to you and the entire team for all the effort > that you folks put into the software--and in answering questions on this list! > Regards,Larry Long > > >> On Sunday, July 12, 2020, John Ralls wrote: > > Frank and I have both opined >> on https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that the whole >> interest payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to that >> opinion that so is the payment >> transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes reconciling a credit card >> account. It's a lot of >> program complexity that relieves the user of very little work indeed: Those >> interest and payment >> transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in the >> register before and after >> reconciling, and in the case of interest they're an obvious candidate for a >> scheduled transaction. > >> But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated disagreement. >> I want to get that out >> of the way up front: Who here objects to removing the interest and payment >> transfer automatic popups >> and the interest payment button on the reconcile info dialog, and what >> compelling reason do you have >> for objecting? >> >> Regards, >> John Ralls > > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?
The thing is, there's a good chance we won't know if somebody uses the feature and happens to not be on this forum, which is very likely. So out of caution, I would err on the side of keeping it. The code bloat isn't enormous. In my PR I removed a bit of it, and simplified things a bit. I know that as a user, I really dislike when features disappear... (if I happen to use them). I think the onus is on us to justify why it's really bad to keep the feature. Jean P.S. Nobody's suggesting to remove reconciling! I think it was a misunderstanding from the start! On 7/12/2020 3:02 PM, John Ralls wrote: Larry, Thanks for the offer, but I wouldn't want to turn our users into more product for survey monkey. Besides, I'm not looking for votes, I'm looking for reasons why removing the dialogs might be a bad thing. A single person with a persuasive reason would outweigh all of the "don't cares". To your points: A Scheduled Transaction is an even better reminder and quick fill (aka autocomplete) in the register will fill in the last payment account too. What quickfill won't do is pre-populate the credit field with the reconciled balance. Regards, John Ralls On Jul 12, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Larry Long wrote: John, I almost always pay off entire credit card balances, so I rarely ever use the "interest charge" pop-up.However, I do use the "interest earned" pop-up associated with bank accounts. I find it a convenient reminder for me to enter that figure before I begin checking-off transactions in the reconcile window.Similarly, I use (and appreciate) the "payment transaction" pop-up window associated with credit card accounts. The fact that it remembers and prepopulates my usual source account for the payment is also a handy convenience for me. Could I do without these two features? Certainly. Do I find them helpful and time-saving for me? Yes.Compelling reasons? While I find them helpful, I can't say that I have any. If you want a survey of your users, I don't believe that this list is the best method. I would suggest that you set up a free account on Survey Monkey, create your questions there and post a link on this list. It will accumulate the results for you and is much less effort than trying to track responses here. I'd be happy to create one for you based on what you asked below. However, if you wanted to write your own questions, it might be better for you to do it. Meanwhile, a huge "Thank You" to you and the entire team for all the effort that you folks put into the software--and in answering questions on this list! Regards,Larry Long On Sunday, July 12, 2020, John Ralls wrote: > > Frank and I have both opined on https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that the whole interest payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to that opinion that so is the payment transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes reconciling a credit card account. It's a lot of program complexity that relieves the user of very little work indeed: Those interest and payment transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in the register before and after reconciling, and in the case of interest they're an obvious candidate for a scheduled transaction. But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated disagreement. I want to get that out of the way up front: Who here objects to removing the interest and payment transfer automatic popups and the interest payment button on the reconcile info dialog, and what compelling reason do you have for objecting? Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?
FWIW - For me the pop ups are confusing. I delete and hope it works out. A million thanks for a great application. All the best from the Carson Valley, nvsoar On 07/12/20 15:15, jean laroche wrote: The thing is, there's a good chance we won't know if somebody uses the feature and happens to not be on this forum, which is very likely. So out of caution, I would err on the side of keeping it. The code bloat isn't enormous. In my PR I removed a bit of it, and simplified things a bit. I know that as a user, I really dislike when features disappear... (if I happen to use them). I think the onus is on us to justify why it's really bad to keep the feature. Jean P.S. Nobody's suggesting to remove reconciling! I think it was a misunderstanding from the start! On 7/12/2020 3:02 PM, John Ralls wrote: Larry, Thanks for the offer, but I wouldn't want to turn our users into more product for survey monkey. Besides, I'm not looking for votes, I'm looking for reasons why removing the dialogs might be a bad thing. A single person with a persuasive reason would outweigh all of the "don't cares". To your points: A Scheduled Transaction is an even better reminder and quick fill (aka autocomplete) in the register will fill in the last payment account too. What quickfill won't do is pre-populate the credit field with the reconciled balance. Regards, John Ralls On Jul 12, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Larry Long wrote: John, I almost always pay off entire credit card balances, so I rarely ever use the "interest charge" pop-up.However, I do use the "interest earned" pop-up associated with bank accounts. I find it a convenient reminder for me to enter that figure before I begin checking-off transactions in the reconcile window.Similarly, I use (and appreciate) the "payment transaction" pop-up window associated with credit card accounts. The fact that it remembers and prepopulates my usual source account for the payment is also a handy convenience for me. Could I do without these two features? Certainly. Do I find them helpful and time-saving for me? Yes.Compelling reasons? While I find them helpful, I can't say that I have any. If you want a survey of your users, I don't believe that this list is the best method. I would suggest that you set up a free account on Survey Monkey, create your questions there and post a link on this list. It will accumulate the results for you and is much less effort than trying to track responses here. I'd be happy to create one for you based on what you asked below. However, if you wanted to write your own questions, it might be better for you to do it. Meanwhile, a huge "Thank You" to you and the entire team for all the effort that you folks put into the software--and in answering questions on this list! Regards,Larry Long On Sunday, July 12, 2020, John Ralls wrote: > > Frank and I have both opined on https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that the whole interest payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to that opinion that so is the payment transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes reconciling a credit card account. It's a lot of program complexity that relieves the user of very little work indeed: Those interest and payment transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in the register before and after reconciling, and in the case of interest they're an obvious candidate for a scheduled transaction. But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated disagreement. I want to get that out of the way up front: Who here objects to removing the interest and payment transfer automatic popups and the interest payment button on the reconcile info dialog, and what compelling reason do you have for objecting? Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists
Re: [GNC] Reconcile also opens Interest Payment box?
Note that with the PR: - There no longer a global pref for popping the interest transfer dialog prior to reconcile. - There's a new per-account pref for this ^^ . Set to False by default - In the reconcile window, there's still the button to open the interest transfer dialog - In the interest transfer dialog, a button was removed (that was changing the preference). So with the PR the interest transfer dialog should not pop up for you if it didn't before. If it does, the user has to go turn the preference off in the account edit dialog. Jean On 7/12/2020 3:35 PM, nvsoar wrote: FWIW - For me the pop ups are confusing. I delete and hope it works out. A million thanks for a great application. All the best from the Carson Valley, nvsoar On 07/12/20 15:15, jean laroche wrote: The thing is, there's a good chance we won't know if somebody uses the feature and happens to not be on this forum, which is very likely. So out of caution, I would err on the side of keeping it. The code bloat isn't enormous. In my PR I removed a bit of it, and simplified things a bit. I know that as a user, I really dislike when features disappear... (if I happen to use them). I think the onus is on us to justify why it's really bad to keep the feature. Jean P.S. Nobody's suggesting to remove reconciling! I think it was a misunderstanding from the start! On 7/12/2020 3:02 PM, John Ralls wrote: Larry, Thanks for the offer, but I wouldn't want to turn our users into more product for survey monkey. Besides, I'm not looking for votes, I'm looking for reasons why removing the dialogs might be a bad thing. A single person with a persuasive reason would outweigh all of the "don't cares". To your points: A Scheduled Transaction is an even better reminder and quick fill (aka autocomplete) in the register will fill in the last payment account too. What quickfill won't do is pre-populate the credit field with the reconciled balance. Regards, John Ralls On Jul 12, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Larry Long wrote: John, I almost always pay off entire credit card balances, so I rarely ever use the "interest charge" pop-up.However, I do use the "interest earned" pop-up associated with bank accounts. I find it a convenient reminder for me to enter that figure before I begin checking-off transactions in the reconcile window.Similarly, I use (and appreciate) the "payment transaction" pop-up window associated with credit card accounts. The fact that it remembers and prepopulates my usual source account for the payment is also a handy convenience for me. Could I do without these two features? Certainly. Do I find them helpful and time-saving for me? Yes.Compelling reasons? While I find them helpful, I can't say that I have any. If you want a survey of your users, I don't believe that this list is the best method. I would suggest that you set up a free account on Survey Monkey, create your questions there and post a link on this list. It will accumulate the results for you and is much less effort than trying to track responses here. I'd be happy to create one for you based on what you asked below. However, if you wanted to write your own questions, it might be better for you to do it. Meanwhile, a huge "Thank You" to you and the entire team for all the effort that you folks put into the software--and in answering questions on this list! Regards,Larry Long On Sunday, July 12, 2020, John Ralls wrote: > > Frank and I have both opined on https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797854 that the whole interest payment as part of reconciling is stupid. I want to add to that opinion that so is the payment transfer that optionally pops up when one finishes reconciling a credit card account. It's a lot of program complexity that relieves the user of very little work indeed: Those interest and payment transactions can just as easily--maybe more easily--be created in the register before and after reconciling, and in the case of interest they're an obvious candidate for a scheduled transaction. But that's a UI change and UI changes tend to generate heated disagreement. I want to get that out of the way up front: Who here objects to removing the interest and payment transfer automatic popups and the interest payment button on the reconcile info dialog, and what compelling reason do you have for objecting? Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsub
