Re: [GNC] Contingency Funds was: Re: How to record Personal income tax ?
Hello Dadvid Cousens, I only have one question more, because I'm not an accounting, And the ways you guided to me to record tax with "Cash Accounting" look great and i think it will work for me. *My question is : I saw that, i need to credit from "Liabily" and debit to "equity" instead of "expense". Like you said. So, is it a trick to control my tax liability? Or it is a way to control tax liability and following the real life? Example : Because i want everything in my GnuCash following my real life, That why i don't create any "saving account" when i didn't have it. Or if i bought something with my credit card, i won't record it in GnuCash that I bought it by my Cash in Wallet. I want gnucash show me exactly the amount and what i did "in real life". Hope you will understand what i mean. Now, I'm rebuilding my GnuCash Account structure and use it to control my real life. I believe that i am following "Cash Accounting". That why i'm asking you to sure, before let my GnuCash go to work. Thank you Dadvid Counsens, and sorry for my bad english. P/S: It's look like when i close my book, My expense and income reset to "0", what i have left are the information about equity, liability, asset. Regards. -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Backup Module
Would it be possible to incorporate a backup module function into the menu bar, as a pull-down feature under the heading "File", as is commonly found in some programs? Backing up to the hardrive is currently automatic but saving to a disc or memory stick, for off site storage could be made simpler for the less technically inclined user. Thanks, Leo ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Backup Module
On 3/24/2020 7:58 AM, lbo...@rogers.com wrote: Would it be possible to incorporate a backup module function into the menu bar, as a pull-down feature under the heading "File", as is commonly found in some programs? Backing up to the hardrive is currently automatic but saving to a disc or memory stick, for off site storage could be made simpler for the less technically inclined user. Thanks, Leo Would not be hard to do BUT would foster bad practice with regard to backup procedures. Do you really want to back up all the data on your computer file by file? The point is, it is not just your gnucash data that needs backup but ALL your user data. And if there is a process whereby all your user data is backed up, a special process to back up gnucash data is redundant. Look at procedures/process alternatives for general backup. Which would work best for you. There are lots of alternatives. Michael D Novack ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Backup Module
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:36 AM Michael or Penny Novack < stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote: > a special process to back up gnucash data is redundant. While I agree that adding this feature to the application would be a poor idea, I do see the point. I back up my hard drive to an external drive, sure. And there are certain data that I also back up to multiple other places... information that is so important to me that losing it is an insufferable idea. My Gnucash file is one of those. (Another is my password safe data, for example.) I back these up manually to multiple places whenever I change them. It works for me. If I changed them more often, I might set up a cron job to make encrypted copies and move them to where I want them. -- Home: http://nlphilia.com * Blog: http://nlphilia.net Registered Linux User #450983 * Ubuntu Counter Project #10548 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Backup Module
As Michael notes, there is more than just a data file. Preferences are stored separately as are saved report configurations, and any interface customizations. (such as if one uses a custom CSS file) And they aren’t just stored in separate files, they are also in different directories. Better to just manage backups for your entire user profile or the entire machine than just a one-off copy of the data file. It would also add code that adds technical debt to maintain when there are already existing backup mechanisms outside of GnuCash. Regards, Adrien > On 3/24/2020 7:58 AM, lbo...@rogers.com wrote: > Would it be possible to incorporate a backup module function into the menu > bar, as a pull-down feature under the heading "File", as is commonly found in > some programs? Backing up to the hardrive is currently automatic but saving > to a disc or memory stick, for off site storage could be made simpler for the > less technically inclined user. > > Thanks, > > Leo ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Dipping my toes into Scheme
> On 24 Mar 2020, at 01:20, Christopher Lam wrote: > > This may indicate a Mac .app issue -- maybe it doesn't like being modified. > For that matter it may be much safer to play on a Linux VM and downloading > the sources instead. > Alternatively try the config-user.scm method on > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports Problem resolved - I thought I’d dragged-and-dropped the new scheme file into a temporary directory, but it turned out that I’d created an alias in the latter, and left the original in situ. Much chastened, I shall be more careful to keep my experiments separate from the real world! I have an Ubuntu 18.04 VM on my Mac, but the most recent version of GnuCash available through the Ubuntu Software Manager is 2.6.19. Does anyone know if I have to compile from source to get 3.8? (I’ll also have to work out how my drag-and-drop created an alias) Michael ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Dipping my toes into Scheme
There are some threads on issues building 3.8 on 18.04. I’m pretty sure the debs floating on the list are built for that case. I had some issues myself with a 3.7 and/or 3.8 build that involved conflicting dependencies. I’ve since moved on to 19.10 as a simpler solution. Regards, Adrien > On Mar 24, 2020 w13d84, at 10:03 AM, Michael Hendry > wrote: > >> On 24 Mar 2020, at 01:20, Christopher Lam wrote: >> >> This may indicate a Mac .app issue -- maybe it doesn't like being modified. >> For that matter it may be much safer to play on a Linux VM and downloading >> the sources instead. >> Alternatively try the config-user.scm method on >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports > > Problem resolved - I thought I’d dragged-and-dropped the new scheme file into > a temporary directory, but it turned out that I’d created an alias in the > latter, and left the original in situ. > > Much chastened, I shall be more careful to keep my experiments separate from > the real world! > > > I have an Ubuntu 18.04 VM on my Mac, but the most recent version of GnuCash > available through the Ubuntu Software Manager is 2.6.19. > > Does anyone know if I have to compile from source to get 3.8? > > (I’ll also have to work out how my drag-and-drop created an alias) > > Michael ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Backup Module
On 3/24/20 9:32 AM, Michael or Penny Novack wrote: > On 3/24/2020 7:58 AM, lbo...@rogers.com wrote: >> Would it be possible to incorporate a backup module function into the >> menu bar, as a pull-down feature under the heading "File", as is >> commonly found in some programs? Backing up to the hardrive is >> currently automatic but saving to a disc or memory stick, for off site >> storage could be made simpler for the less technically inclined user. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Leo > > Would not be hard to do BUT would foster bad practice with regard to > backup procedures. Do you really want to back up all the data on your > computer file by file? The point is, it is not just your gnucash data > that needs backup but ALL your user data. And if there is a process > whereby all your user data is backed up, a special process to back up > gnucash data is redundant. If you are going to put all kinds of things into GnuCash, why not a web browser, an e-mail program, etc.? Pretty soon it will end up like emacs, where you pretty much can do anything within the one program, but it may drive you nuts trying to figure out how. -- .~. Jean-David Beyer /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey ^^-^^ 14:20:02 up 11 days, 17:49, 3 users, load average: 4.32, 4.44, 4.50 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Backup Module
Wait! EMACS already supports double-entry bookkeeping. :-) https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CategoryFinancial On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 2:28 PM Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > On 3/24/20 9:32 AM, Michael or Penny Novack wrote: > > On 3/24/2020 7:58 AM, lbo...@rogers.com wrote: > >> Would it be possible to incorporate a backup module function into the > >> menu bar, as a pull-down feature under the heading "File", as is > >> commonly found in some programs? Backing up to the hardrive is > >> currently automatic but saving to a disc or memory stick, for off site > >> storage could be made simpler for the less technically inclined user. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Leo > > > > Would not be hard to do BUT would foster bad practice with regard to > > backup procedures. Do you really want to back up all the data on your > > computer file by file? The point is, it is not just your gnucash data > > that needs backup but ALL your user data. And if there is a process > > whereby all your user data is backed up, a special process to back up > > gnucash data is redundant. > > If you are going to put all kinds of things into GnuCash, why not a web > browser, an e-mail program, etc.? Pretty soon it will end up like emacs, > where you pretty much can do anything within the one program, but it may > drive you nuts trying to figure out how. > > -- > .~. Jean-David Beyer > /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B > /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey > ^^-^^ 14:20:02 up 11 days, 17:49, 3 users, load average: 4.32, 4.44, 4.50 > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Dipping my toes into Scheme
GnuCash Users Subject: Re: [GNC] Dipping my toes into Scheme Message-ID: <98fb916d-1962-40f5-96db-7a7154da3...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >I have an Ubuntu 18.04 VM on my Mac, but the most recent version of GnuCash >available through the Ubuntu Software Manager is 2.6.19. > >Does anyone know if I have to compile from source to get 3.8? http://www.flatpak.org I have been successful with a couple of applications for my Peppermint 10 (Debian based). Bruce Preach the Gospel wherever you go. If necessary, use words. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Dipping my toes into Scheme
Check out sicklylife on launchpad.net. He as 3.8 for eon and bionic. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sicklylife/gnucash On 3/24/20 2:36 PM, Bruce Irving via gnucash-user wrote: > GnuCash Users > Subject: Re: [GNC] Dipping my toes into Scheme > Message-ID: <98fb916d-1962-40f5-96db-7a7154da3...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8sudo add-apt-repository > ppa:sicklylife/gnucash > >> I have an Ubuntu 18.04 VM on my Mac, but the most recent version of GnuCash >> available through the Ubuntu Software Manager is 2.6.19. >> >> Does anyone know if I have to compile from source to get 3.8? > http://www.flatpak.org I have been successful with a couple of applications > for my Peppermint 10 (Debian based). > > > Bruce Preach the Gospel wherever you go. If necessary, use words. > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- Stephen M Butler, PMP, PSM stephen.m.butle...@gmail.com kg...@arrl.net 253-350-0166 --- GnuPG Fingerprint: 8A25 9726 D439 758D D846 E5D4 282A 5477 0385 81D8 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Contingency Funds was: Re: How to record Personal income tax ?
No it is not a trick. Accounting practice aims to record events as transaction at times according to a number of accounting principles and rules. If you are required to use accrual accounting, it would be legitimate to record the tax as an expense when the income that produces that liability is earned. If you are not required to use accrual accounting then you do not want to record the tax as an expense until you actually pay it which is why the credit to the liability account is matched with a debit to an equity account which makes a provision for paying tax. The creation of the liability when you earn income is still reducing you equity in either case. Most accounting practice is aimed at recording financial events as they occur in real life. All Expense accounts are actually accounts in Equity but accountants distinguish between events which occur in the current accounting period (which may be a calendar year , a financial year, six monthly, quarterly or monthly depending generally on requirements to report to financial authorities, but usually annually) by creating temporary equity accounts which are given the account types/names of Income and Expenses. In traditional accounting practice they are cleared to equity at the end of the year, i.e. transactions are created which reset the Income and Expense account balances to 0 and transfer the balances to equity. For a business, this is the profit or loss for the accounting period. GnuCash has a closing procedure but this procedure is largely a hangover from accounting done with pen and paper in ledgers. Gnucash's reports produce the correct reports for an accounting period without having to "close the books" formally and closing the books can produce some unwanted effects in the reports. These are generally fixed when they are discoverd so that either approach works. In business accounting, the calculation of tax traditionally takes place after the books have been closed to an Equity:Retained Earnings account and the payment of tax is often recorded against the retained earnings rather than against an Expense account (as are the payments of dividends to shareholders and other distributions of the profits of the business to the participants). David - David Cousens -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Dipping my toes into Scheme
> On 24 Mar 2020, at 21:56, Stephen M. Butler wrote: > > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sicklylife/gnucash Thanks, Stephen. I now have 3.8 up and running in my Ubuntu 18.04 VM, and can experiment without fear. Regards, Michael ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Dipping my toes into Scheme
> On 24 Mar 2020, at 21:36, Bruce Irving via gnucash-user > wrote: > > GnuCash Users > Subject: Re: [GNC] Dipping my toes into Scheme > Message-ID: <98fb916d-1962-40f5-96db-7a7154da3...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 > >> I have an Ubuntu 18.04 VM on my Mac, but the most recent version of GnuCash >> available through the Ubuntu Software Manager is 2.6.19. >> >> Does anyone know if I have to compile from source to get 3.8? > http://www.flatpak.org I have been successful with a couple of applications > for my Peppermint 10 (Debian based). > Thanks, Bruce. As you’ll see, I installed 3.8 using the ppa suggested by Stephen Butler. Regards, Michael ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Gnucash Nightlies with Aqbanking 6.1.4
Hello, in a few hours Gnucash nightlies with Aqbanking 6.1.4 will appear. There have been several improvements of directOFX and FinTS/HBCI both in Aqbanking and Gnucash in the recent time. Is there something, which needs urgent fixing before the next Gnucash release? Regards Frank https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak/maint/?C=M;O=D https://code.gnucash.org/builds/win32/maint/?C=M;O=D ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
