[gmx-users] r.m.s.i.p

2006-09-18 Thread xi zhao
Dear Gromacs users:
I am a new gromacs user, I want ro calculate r.m.s.i.p
for exploring similar in motions of two different
proteins, I need a script or tools to calculate it. I
need your help!
Thank you in advance!
Best regard! 






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Re: [gmx-users] r.m.s.i.p

2006-09-18 Thread Mark Abraham
xi zhao wrote:
> Dear Gromacs users:
> I am a new gromacs user, I want ro calculate r.m.s.i.p
> for exploring similar in motions of two different
> proteins, I need a script or tools to calculate it. I
> need your help!

I don't know what r.m.s.i.p is. If you want to get help, please define
carefully what you are trying to do - even a link to a journal article
might work. Please read carefully the gromacs manual section that
describes what the utility programs do, in case one of them does it.

Mark
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回复: Re: [gmx-users] r.m.s.i.p

2006-09-18 Thread xi zhao
Based on the essential dynamics analysis, the similar of the internal fluctuations in may simulation systems was evaluated by comparing principal subspace first 10 eigenvectors) of each structural trajectory by using the root mean square inner product(RMSIP).     Amadei, A., de groot, B. L., Ceruso, M. A., Paci, M., Di Nola, A. & Berendsen, H. J. A kinetic model for the internal motions of proteins: diffusion between multiple harmonic wells. Proteins. 1999. 35, 283-292.Mark Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写道:  xi zhao wrote:> Dear Gromacs users:> I am a new gromacs user, I want ro calculate r.m.s.i.p> for exploring similar in motions of two different> proteins, I need a script or tools to calculate it. I> need your
 help!I don't know what r.m.s.i.p is. If you want to get help, please definecarefully what you are trying to do - even a link to a journal articlemight work. Please read carefully the gromacs manual section thatdescribes what the utility programs do, in case one of them does it.Mark___gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.orghttp://www.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-usersPlease don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php 
		 
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Simulation problem with extended membrane system!

2006-09-18 Thread liu xin
Thanks Chris, I really appreciate your help!I've got my extended membrane system regarding your note, and now I'm testing it with my GPCR. I am still not very familiar with the script, I think it will take some time to learn.
Thanks again!On 9/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:>If I solvate my GPCR into the DPPC128 system using genbox, there are only
>about 50 lipids left, which I think are too few, so I want a larger starting>structure.>According to your note, when I did step 3, loaded my DPPC183 system to VMD,>I found the edges lined up poorly, there is are gaps between two periodic
>cells. I also try other system like DPPC200, DPPC150, but only the original>dppc128 system, I've equilibrated it for 2ns,  have no  gap between two>periodic cells.>So, I will try another starting structure, like POPC, DMPC or your POPE. But
>I still can't figure out why there are gaps when using genbox to extend the>DPPC system.It's because any overlap causes an entire lipid to be removed.If you don't want to equilibrate, try exactly doubling your system size in x and
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回复: Re: [gmx-users] r.m.s.i.p

2006-09-18 Thread xi zhao
Based on the essential dynamics analysis, the similar of the internal fluctuations in may simulation systems was evaluated by comparing principal subspace first 10 eigenvectors) of each structural trajectory by using the root mean square inner product(RMSIP).     Amadei, A., de groot, B. L., Ceruso, M. A., Paci, M., Di Nola, A. & Berendsen, H. J. A kinetic model for the internal motions of proteins: diffusion between multiple harmonic wells. Proteins. 1999. 35, 283-292.Mark Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写道:  xi zhao wrote:> Dear Gromacs users:> I am a new gromacs user, I want ro calculate r.m.s.i.p> for exploring similar in motions of two different> proteins, I need a script or tools to calculate it. I> need your
 help!I don't know what r.m.s.i.p is. If you want to get help, please definecarefully what you are trying to do - even a link to a journal articlemight work. Please read carefully the gromacs manual section thatdescribes what the utility programs do, in case one of them does it.Mark___gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.orghttp://www.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-usersPlease don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php 
		 
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Re: 回复: Re: [gmx-users] r.m.s.i.p

2006-09-18 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar

Hi Xi Zhao,

Please find attached a .csh script you can use to calculate the rmsip.
The script is of the hand of Isabella Daidone, now in Heidelberg.

Note that for a set of 'equal' simulations there is a spread in the
values you obtain for the RMSIP (i.e. it's not an absolute measure of
equality unless you have full convergence of your simulations). If you
want to use the RMSIP to really compare simulations check our paper in
JCC 27 p. 316 (2006).

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On 9/18/06, xi zhao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Based on the essential dynamics analysis, the similar of the internal
fluctuations in may simulation systems was evaluated by comparing principal
subspace first 10 eigenvectors) of each structural trajectory by using the
root mean square inner product(RMSIP).
   Amadei, A., de groot, B. L., Ceruso, M. A., Paci, M., Di Nola, A. &
Berendsen, H. J. A kinetic model for the internal motions of proteins:
diffusion between multiple harmonic wells. Proteins. 1999. 35, 283-292.

Mark Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写道:
xi zhao wrote:
> Dear Gromacs users:
> I am a new gromacs user, I want ro calculate r.m.s.i.p
> for exploring similar in motions of two different
> proteins, I need a script or tools to calculate it. I
> need your help!

I don't know what r.m.s.i.p is. If you want to get help, please define
carefully what you are trying to do - even a link to a journal article
might work. Please read carefully the gromacs manual section that
describes what the utility programs do, in case one of them does it.

Mark
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Re: 回复: Re: [gmx-users] r.m.s.i.p

2006-09-18 Thread raja
HI Zhao,
To compute RMSIP, you have to compute eigenvector using gromacs utility
program then from that trajectory you can compute RMSIP using a script
which I got from Tsjerk Wassenaar from this list. You can appraoch him.

Regards,
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:15:43 +0800 (CST), "xi zhao"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Based on the essential dynamics analysis, the similar of the internal
> fluctuations in may simulation systems was evaluated by comparing
> principal subspace first 10 eigenvectors) of each structural trajectory
> by using the root mean square inner product(RMSIP). Amadei, A.,
> de groot, B. L., Ceruso, M. A., Paci, M., Di Nola, A. & Berendsen, H. J.
> A kinetic model for the internal motions of proteins: diffusion between
> multiple harmonic wells. Proteins. 1999. 35, 283-292.
> 
> 
> Mark Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写道:  xi zhao wrote:
> > Dear Gromacs users:
> > I am a new gromacs user, I want ro calculate r.m.s.i.p
> > for exploring similar in motions of two different
> > proteins, I need a script or tools to calculate it. I
> > need your help!
> 
> I don't know what r.m.s.i.p is. If you want to get help, please define
> carefully what you are trying to do - even a link to a journal article
> might work. Please read carefully the gromacs manual section that
> describes what the utility programs do, in case one of them does it.
> 
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Re: [gmx-users] short range nonbondeds = 0 in power4

2006-09-18 Thread Atte Sillanpää

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Atte Sillanpää wrote:


I've run into a mysterious problem. The versions 3.3. and 3.3.1 compile
and execute, but the short range coulomb and LJ energies come out as
zero when using the mpi-version. Serial code works ok (mpi version gives
zero if run using just one cpu). No errors, no warnings.


Hi,

the problem seems solved. I removed the --enable-threads from the
gromacs config options and now short range forces come out right.
Simulations are stable and e.g. water rdfs are identical in power4 and
amd opteron. It's a little bit nasty that compiler gets through the
threads flag but then computes garbage.

It has been said in the mailing list that threads don't work yet, but
that's hard to find as the solution unless you know to look for it.

To further check my binary I'd like to do some other tests. I tried
looking for the benchmarks, but the link doesn't work (search for
'bench' at the gromacs site). Are they still available (and do they
have some verified results to compare to?)

Thanks,

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Re: [gmx-users] short range nonbondeds = 0 in power4

2006-09-18 Thread David van der Spoel

Atte Sillanpää wrote:

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Atte Sillanpää wrote:

I've run into a mysterious problem. The versions 3.3. and 3.3.1 
compile

and execute, but the short range coulomb and LJ energies come out as
zero when using the mpi-version. Serial code works ok (mpi version 
gives

zero if run using just one cpu). No errors, no warnings.


Hi,

the problem seems solved. I removed the --enable-threads from the
gromacs config options and now short range forces come out right.
Simulations are stable and e.g. water rdfs are identical in power4 and
amd opteron. It's a little bit nasty that compiler gets through the
threads flag but then computes garbage.

It has been said in the mailing list that threads don't work yet, but
that's hard to find as the solution unless you know to look for it.

To further check my binary I'd like to do some other tests. I tried
looking for the benchmarks, but the link doesn't work (search for
'bench' at the gromacs site). Are they still available (and do they
have some verified results to compare to?)

Thanks,



For now you can download them using good old ftp (user anonymous pass 
your email)


We will fix the website.


Atte




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Re: [gmx-users] The molecule size

2006-09-18 Thread David van der Spoel

主月 :) wrote:

 > Hi:
 > 
 > Two melt models were built for polyethylene (PE) and

 > polyvinylmethylether (PVME) melt with PBC condition .
 > 
 > The density of both melt model agree with experimenal value well.But

 > when one check the radius of gyration (Rg) of them, both of them were
 > too small to accept as follows.
 > 
 > The Rg for PE (C1000) is just 28 angstrom. It means the infinite

 > charaterastic ratio (Cinf) for the polymer is just about 2 which is much
 > smaller than scatter experimental value about 7.
 > 
 > The Rg for PVME (C44) melt is about 6.6 angstrom. It means the Cinf for

 > the polymer is just 2.5 which is much smaller than scatter experimental
 > value 8-10.
 > 
 > Can these results be accepted?
 > 
 > Is there any fault in force field? gromos96a


Two things,

- maybe you need a larger systems
- maybe g_gyrate does not take periodicity into account correctly. 
extract some single molecules and look at them in a viewer, or write 
your own script to compute Rg.

- have you used pbc = full for the simulations?




Usually a garbage result as output means that you had either garbage as
input, or garbage for the algorithm. Find a published article that
describes a similar simulation and adapt their method suitably.
Otherwise describe your method more thoroughly (e.g. how large was the
box, what ensemble did you use, equilibration regime, etc.) and maybe
someone has some judgement they can share with you.

Mark
 
*Hi Mark:*
*Thanks for your advise. Because the PE model is built by one of my 
officemate, i did not konw its details.*
** 
*The cell length about my PVME model is 4.5 nm which is big enough for a 
PVME chain possesses all trans conformation. The ensemble is NVT with 
the control file Pcoupl = no after 10ns NPT simulation to reach the 
experimental density. The runtime for NVT is 5ns from which the relax 
time for end to end vector is anaylzed. The relax time  is about 1ns. So 
i think the system has been relaxed enough.*
** 
*Is there any error in my process?*
** 
*Maybe the residue parameter for PVME is also needed for discuss. They are:*
** 


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[gmx-users] n-hexadecane simulation

2006-09-18 Thread Jae Hyun Park
Dear all GROMACS users:

I'm simulating n-hexadecane bulk at 300 K using UA model with fixed bond 
length, harmonic angle potential, and Rychaert-Bellemans torsion model. 
However, it is so unstable for 2fs time step - The bond length suddenly 
diverges. The simulation becomes stable for 0.2 fs time step, which seems too 
small. Could anybody give an instruction for this problem? Followings are my 
.mdp and topology files.

Thank you in advance for your kind instruction.


; VARIOUS PREPROCESSING OPTIONS =
title= 2*2 pore
cpp  = /lib/cpp

 
integrator   = md
dt   = 0.002
nsteps   = 600
nstcomm  = 1

 
nstxout  = 1000
nstvout  = 1000
nstfout  = 1000
nstlog   = 1000
nstenergy= 1000

 
;Output frequency and precision for xtc file =
nstxtcout= 500
xtc_precision= 1
xtc-grps = HEX

 
; CONSTRAINT SCHEME
constraints = all-bonds
constraint_algorithm = lincs

 
; Selection of energy groups =
energygrps   = HEX

 
; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS =
nstlist  = 10
ns_type  = grid
pbc  = xyz

 
; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS =
tcoupl   =  nose-hoover
tc-grps  =  HEX
tau_t=  0.3
ref_t=  300.0

 
rcoulomb = 1.49
rlist= 1.38
rvdw = 1.38




   ; GENERATE VELOCITIES FOR STARTUP RUN =
gen_vel  = yes
gen_temp = 300.0
gen_seed = 94729

[ moleculetype ]
; molname   nrexcl
HEX 3

 
[ atoms ]
;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge
 1CH3  1HEXC1  1 0.000
 2CH2  1HEXC2  1 0.000
 3CH2  1HEXC3  1 0.000
 4CH2  1HEXC4  1 0.000
 5CH2  1HEXC5  1 0.000
 6CH2  1HEXC6  1 0.000
 7CH2  1HEXC7  1 0.000
 8CH2  1HEXC8  1 0.000
 9CH2  1HEXC9  1 0.000
10CH2  1HEXC10 1 0.000
11CH2  1HEXC11 1 0.000
12CH2  1HEXC12 1 0.000
13CH2  1HEXC13 1 0.000
14CH2  1HEXC14 1 0.000
15CH2  1HEXC15 1 0.000
16CH3  1HEXC16 1 0.000

 
[ constraints ]
12  2   0.153
23  2   0.153
34  2   0.153
45  2   0.153
56  2   0.153
67  2   0.153
78  2   0.153
89  2   0.153
9   10  2   0.153
   10   11  2   0.153
   11   12  2   0.153
   12   13  2   0.153
   13   14  2   0.153
   14   15  2   0.153
   15   16  2   0.153

   

[gmx-users] Re: Simulation problem with extended membrane system!

2006-09-18 Thread chris . neale

If you use the script as I have suggested,
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2006-May/021526.html

The script is designed for a gro file that does not have any  
velocities written into it, ie. it looks like this:


1THR  N1   0.801   6.473  -0.310
1THR H12   0.760   6.476  -0.402
1THR H23   0.865   6.394  -0.304

If you have 3 additional columns in your .gro file, then you need to  
change the script like this:


  l=${#line}
  m=$(expr $l - 24)  # ADD THIS LINE ONLY IF VELOCITIES ARE IN YOUR .GRO

The first line is #37 I think, and the next line is the line that you  
need to add. This says "Ignore the velocities"


Also, if you use TIP4p then line 30 needs to be
  if [ "$count" = 4 ]; then
instead of
  if [ "$count" = 3 ]; then

Likewise, use "5" if you use tip5p.

Chris.





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Re: [gmx-users] n-hexadecane simulation

2006-09-18 Thread Frederic Leroy
You could change the lincs_iter. I would use SHAKE rather than LINCS. 
For n-alkanes using the model of Ryckaert-Bellemans, it is OK. Anyway, 
2fs is correct.


Jae Hyun Park wrote:


Dear all GROMACS users:

I'm simulating n-hexadecane bulk at 300 K using UA model with fixed bond 
length, harmonic angle potential, and Rychaert-Bellemans torsion model. 
However, it is so unstable for 2fs time step - The bond length suddenly 
diverges. The simulation becomes stable for 0.2 fs time step, which seems too 
small. Could anybody give an instruction for this problem? Followings are my 
.mdp and topology files.

Thank you in advance for your kind instruction.


; VARIOUS PREPROCESSING OPTIONS =
title= 2*2 pore
cpp  = /lib/cpp

integrator   = md

dt   = 0.002
nsteps   = 600
nstcomm  = 1

nstxout  = 1000

nstvout  = 1000
nstfout  = 1000
nstlog   = 1000
nstenergy= 1000

;Output frequency and precision for xtc file =

nstxtcout= 500
xtc_precision= 1
xtc-grps = HEX

; CONSTRAINT SCHEME

constraints = all-bonds
constraint_algorithm = lincs

; Selection of energy groups =

energygrps   = HEX

; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS =

nstlist  = 10
ns_type  = grid
pbc  = xyz

; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS =

tcoupl   =  nose-hoover
tc-grps  =  HEX
tau_t=  0.3
ref_t=  300.0

rcoulomb = 1.49

rlist= 1.38
rvdw = 1.38




  ; GENERATE VELOCITIES FOR STARTUP RUN =
gen_vel  = yes
gen_temp = 300.0
gen_seed = 94729

[ moleculetype ]
; molname   nrexcl
HEX 3

[ atoms ]

;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge
1CH3  1HEXC1  1 0.000
2CH2  1HEXC2  1 0.000
3CH2  1HEXC3  1 0.000
4CH2  1HEXC4  1 0.000
5CH2  1HEXC5  1 0.000
6CH2  1HEXC6  1 0.000
7CH2  1HEXC7  1 0.000
8CH2  1HEXC8  1 0.000
9CH2  1HEXC9  1 0.000
   10CH2  1HEXC10 1 0.000
   11CH2  1HEXC11 1 0.000
   12CH2  1HEXC12 1 0.000
   13CH2  1HEXC13 1 0.000
   14CH2  1HEXC14 1 0.000
   15CH2  1HEXC15 1 0.000
   16CH3  1HEXC16 1 0.000

[ constraints ]

   12  2   0.153
   23  2   0.153
   34  2   0.153
   45  2   0.153
   56  2   0.153
   67  2   0.153
   78  2   0.153
   89  2   0.153
   9   10  2   0.153
  10   11  2   0.153
  11   12  2   0.153
  12   13  2   0.153
  13   14  2   0.153
  14

[gmx-users] re: n-hexadecane simulation

2006-09-18 Thread chris . neale
You have #2 in the 3rd column which nmeans that you are not excluding  
1-2, 1-3, or 1-4 Nonbonded interactions as you are intended to. Change  
this value to a one instead of a two. That should fix your problem.  
However, I would recommend that you set up the regular RB bonds like  
this. That way you have the settings in case you want to stop  
constraining bond lengths.


Remove your [ constraints ] section and adding this:

[ bonds ]
12  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
23  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
34  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
45  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
56  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
67  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
78  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
89  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
9   10  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
   10   11  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
   11   12  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
   12   13  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
   13   14  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
   14   15  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
   15   16  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06


Chris.

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[gmx-users] Bonds

2006-09-18 Thread Elias santos
Hi!
 I have a question . I am working with a proteina that they will count two centers FES co-ordinated for cisteins, these cisteins were not on to iron atoms, thus I modified the archive itp only with respect the bonds, no angles or diedrals, to bind to these two residuos. After the minimização, I made one md with restricted position, when I make the total dynamic with I tie occurs error in the algorithm shake and it stops in the first steps informing that I did not obtain to set molecules of water. I am using the field of force of gromacs (option 4) and the water is spc216. 

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[gmx-users] protein unstable for parallel job while stable for serial one

2006-09-18 Thread Akansha Saxena
Hello 

Has anybody seen a protein becoming unstable on
parallel nodes while remaining stable on single node?

I am running a NPT molecular dynamics simulation. The
system contains a protein with 141 residues surrounded
by water making the total to 32714 atoms. I ran this
simulation at two places for 8ns. One as a serial job
and the other as a parallel job on 16 nodes. 
 
The protein remains stable all through for the serial
job but for parallel job the protein  opens up after
3ns of simulation and is never stable after that. 

All other conditions are exactly the same. Any help
would be highly appreciated. 

Akansha



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Department of Biomedical Engineering
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RE: [gmx-users] merger ligand and protein to constriant

2006-09-18 Thread Fan, Fenghui
Try the following way:



But you shoul get you top file and gro file without the ligand. Then If your 
protein has 100 residues, add you ligand as residue 101 in the gro file. After 
residue add the "TER" . In ddition, adding the ligand ITP file to the later 
part of the Gro file. 


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What about merging  the ligand the the protein by DeepView? 


In your mail:
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>Date:Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:40:59 +0200
>
>Hi all
>  I already look in the turorial however that is not the thing that I try to
>look for. I would like to merge the ligand into the protein and then make
>the contrain between two atoms, one from the liagand and one from the
>protein. However, as far as I know, I can do the constraint or restraint
>just in the one chain. I cant do that with the different chain. So that i
>try to merge ligand chain and protein chain. I tried to do that with pdb2gmx
>but it is not work. So that i would like to know is there any way to merge
>the ligand chain with the protein chain.
>Thanks for all your suggstions
>
>Best Regard
>Kanin
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RE: [gmx-users] r.m.s.i.p

2006-09-18 Thread Fan, Fenghui
Try RMSD fit function.


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Dear Gromacs users:
I am a new gromacs user, I want ro calculate r.m.s.i.p
for exploring similar in motions of two different
proteins, I need a script or tools to calculate it. I
need your help!
Thank you in advance!
Best regard! 






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Re: [gmx-users] re: n-hexadecane simulation

2006-09-18 Thread Jae Hyun Park
Thank you so much for your consideration.
However, it still diverge even after correcting the number in 3rd column and 
using bond parameters.
Also, using SHAKE is not helpful.
I'm using single-precision GROMACS. Is it make this kind of problem? What else 
can I do try?

Thank you in advance for your kind instruction.
Jae

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>You have #2 in the 3rd column which nmeans that you are not excluding  
>1-2, 1-3, or 1-4 Nonbonded interactions as you are intended to. Change  
>this value to a one instead of a two. That should fix your problem.  
>However, I would recommend that you set up the regular RB bonds like  
>this. That way you have the settings in case you want to stop  
>constraining bond lengths.
>
>Remove your [ constraints ] section and adding this:
>
>[ bonds ]
> 12  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
> 23  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
> 34  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
> 45  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
> 56  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
> 67  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
> 78  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
> 89  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
> 9   10  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
>10   11  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
>11   12  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
>12   13  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
>13   14  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
>14   15  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
>15   16  1   0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
>
>
>Chris.
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[gmx-users] a problem about Coul-LR in energy groups output. Coul-LR is always ZERO !

2006-09-18 Thread Dai Liang



I want to analyze the energy during a normal 
simulation. Some strange things happened.
In mdp file, I selected DNA, NA+, SOL for energy 
groups output. When I analyzed edr file by g_energy, I found Coul_LR is always 
ZERO. I think my parameters have no problem, rlist =  1.0 
rcoulomb =  1.0, rvdw  =  1.0. Furthermore, when I selected 
'System' for energy output, Coul_LR have some reasonable values.
 
When I do MD simulation in other computer, 
there is NO output for Coul-LR with the SAME parameter 
file. 

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[gmx-users] re: n-hexadecane simulation

2006-09-18 Thread chris . neale
1. Try the [ bonds ] section that I mentioned earlier and remove the [  
constraints ] section.


2. Did you do an energy minimization? If so, what total Energy and max  
force do you acheive?


3. What is the size of your box? Is it >=3.0nm? Is that also larger  
than 1.49 + max_n-hexadecane_length? It should be both of these,  
although only the first issue is likely to show up as an energy error.


4. What vdwtype and coulombtype are you using? This might be problematic:
rcoulomb = 1.49
rlist= 1.38
rvdw = 1.38

Try this instead:
coulombtype =  PME
rcoulomb=  0.9
fourierspacing  =  0.12
pme_order   =  4
vdwtype =  cut-off
rvdw_switch =  0
rvdw=  1.4
rlist   =  0.9


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[gmx-users] Gromacs install question

2006-09-18 Thread Qiao Baofu
Hi all,

I have a question on installing gromacs:
I have installed gromacs 3.3.1 on my computer. And it works. Today, I
want to change one commands, so I reinstalled it in the following
process:
1. remove the formal direcory of gromacs
2. change to the installation directory of gromacs
3. ./configure
4. make 
5 make install

The result is that  only the following commands  are
installed in /bin directory of gromacs:  ffscan, gmxcheck,
gmxdump, grompp,luck, mdrun, pdb2gmx,protonate,tpbconv, x2top.

What wrong with it? who can tell me? Thanks in advance!

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[gmx-users] single point calculation

2006-09-18 Thread Reynier Suardiaz del Río



 
Hi, is my firt question in the list, i have a very 
simple and posibly a very nonsense question.
do i have to use mdrun to performe a single point 
calculation of a certain conformation? how? is there something to specify in 
.mdp file?
Can some body provide me an example of how to use 
ffscan? with a small molecule if it is possible...
 
Best regards 
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[gmx-users] bonds

2006-09-18 Thread Elias santos
Hi! I have a question . I am working with a protein that they will count twocenters FES co-ordinated for cisteins, these cisteins were not on to ironatoms, thus I modified the archive itp only with respect the bonds, no
angles or diedrals, to bind to these two residuos. After the minimização, Imade one md with restricted position, when I make the total dynamic with Itie occurs error in the algorithm shake and it stops in the first steps
informing that I did not obtain to set molecules of water. I am using thefield of force of gromacs (option 4) and the water is spc216. ESS
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[gmx-users] velocities

2006-09-18 Thread Prasad Gajula
Dear Gromacs Users,

I am getting different results for simulations with " gen_vel=yes"  and
"gen_vel= no".

I have generated velocities only for PR MD at 300K. after that I set '
gen_vel= no ' in mdp file.  After the position restrained MD , I slowly
increased the temparature from 80K , 100K , 200K and last 300K. (with
'gen_vel=no' for all MD)
Is it correct? Because I read both 'yes' and 'no' as possibilites in some
references. Iam bit confused which to use for exact simulations.

Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Best regards
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RE: [gmx-users] Gromacs install question

2006-09-18 Thread Fan, Fenghui
In your sudirectory of the newly established Gromacs directory, there will 
subdirectory tools and kernel. You can start your commands in these 
subdirectory and it should work.

Best regards.

Fenghui Fan



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Hi all,

I have a question on installing gromacs:
I have installed gromacs 3.3.1 on my computer. And it works. Today, I want
to change one commands, so I reinstalled it in the following process:
1. remove the formal direcory of gromacs
2. change to the installation directory of gromacs
3. ./configure
4. make
5 make install

The result is that  only the following commands  are installed in /bin
directory of gromacs:  ffscan, gmxcheck, gmxdump, grompp,luck, mdrun,
pdb2gmx,protonate,tpbconv, x2top.

What wrong with it? who can tell me? Thanks in advance!


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回复: RE: [gmx-users] r.m.s.i.p

2006-09-18 Thread xi zhao
how to use it in detail?Thanks!"Fan, Fenghui " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写道:  Try RMSD fit function.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of xi zhaoSent: Mon 9/18/2006 2:12 AMTo: gmx-users@gromacs.orgSubject: [gmx-users] r.m.s.i.pDear Gromacs users:I am a new gromacs user, I want ro calculate r.m.s.i.pfor exploring similar in motions of two differentproteins, I need a script or tools to calculate it. Ineed your help!Thank you in advance!Best regard! ___ Mp3???-???http://music.yahoo.com.cn/?source=mail_mailbox_footer___gmx-users mailing list
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回复: Re: 回复: Re: [gmx-use rs] r.m.s.i.p

2006-09-18 Thread xi zhao
Dear Tsjerk :  Thank you very much!Tsjerk Wassenaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写道:  Hi Xi Zhao,Please find attached a .csh script you can use to calculate the rmsip.The script is of the hand of Isabella Daidone, now in Heidelberg.Note that for a set of 'equal' simulations there is a spread in thevalues you obtain for the RMSIP (i.e. it's not an absolute measure ofequality unless you have full convergence of your simulations). If youwant to use the RMSIP to really compare simulations check our paper inJCC 27 p. 316 (2006).Cheers,TsjerkOn 9/18/06, xi zhao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Based on the essential dynamics analysis, the similar of the internal> fluctuations in may simulation systems was evaluated by comparing principal> subspace first
 10 eigenvectors) of each structural trajectory by using the> root mean square inner product(RMSIP).> Amadei, A., de groot, B. L., Ceruso, M. A., Paci, M., Di Nola, A. &> Berendsen, H. J. A kinetic model for the internal motions of proteins:> diffusion between multiple harmonic wells. Proteins. 1999. 35, 283-292.>> Mark Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>写道:> xi zhao wrote:> > Dear Gromacs users:> > I am a new gromacs user, I want ro calculate r.m.s.i.p> > for exploring similar in motions of two different> > proteins, I need a script or tools to calculate it. I> > need your help!>> I don't know what r.m.s.i.p is. If you want to get help, please define> carefully what you are trying to do - even a link to a journal article> might work. Please read carefully the gromacs manual section that> describes what the utility programs do, in case
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回复: Re: 回复: Re: [gmx-use rs] r.m.s.i.p

2006-09-18 Thread xi zhao
Thank you for your advise!raja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写道:  HI Zhao,To compute RMSIP, you have to compute eigenvector using gromacs utilityprogram then from that trajectory you can compute RMSIP using a scriptwhich I got from Tsjerk Wassenaar from this list. You can appraoch him.Regards,B.NatarajOn Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:15:43 +0800 (CST), "xi zhao"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>said:> Based on the essential dynamics analysis, the similar of the internal> fluctuations in may simulation systems was evaluated by comparing> principal subspace first 10 eigenvectors) of each structural trajectory> by using the root mean square inner product(RMSIP). Amadei, A.,> de groot, B. L., Ceruso, M. A., Paci, M., Di Nola, A. & Berendsen, H. J.> A kinetic model for the internal
 motions of proteins: diffusion between> multiple harmonic wells. Proteins. 1999. 35, 283-292.> > > Mark Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>写道: xi zhao wrote:> > Dear Gromacs users:> > I am a new gromacs user, I want ro calculate r.m.s.i.p> > for exploring similar in motions of two different> > proteins, I need a script or tools to calculate it. I> > need your help!> > I don't know what r.m.s.i.p is. If you want to get help, please define> carefully what you are trying to do - even a link to a journal article> might work. Please read carefully the gromacs manual section that> describes what the utility programs do, in case one of them does it.> > Mark> ___> gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org> http://www.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users> Please don't post
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[gmx-users] job opportunity

2006-09-18 Thread Eric Jakobsson

I am writing to call this community's attention to the job opportunity at
http://www.nanoconductor.org/jobs/NCN_at_UIUC_Lead_Scientist.pdf
which would involve Gromacs expertise in addition to other software 
relevant to nanoscience.


Thanks for your attention,
Eric

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Eric Jakobsson, Ph.D.
Professor, Department of Molecular and Integrative Physiology, and of 
Biochemistry, and of the Center for Biophysics and Computational Biology

Senior Research Scientist, National Center for Supercomputing Applications
Professor, Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and Technology
3261 Beckman Institute, mc251
University of Illinois, Urbana, IL 61801
ph. 217-244-2896   fax 217-244-2909




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Re: [gmx-users] velocities

2006-09-18 Thread Mark Abraham

Prasad Gajula wrote:

Dear Gromacs Users,

I am getting different results for simulations with " gen_vel=yes"  and
"gen_vel= no".


This is expected. No two simulations will be the same unless you run 
then on the same hardware with exactly the same inputs. gen_vel requires 
the use of a random number seed. What you want to do, is after 
equilibration, be sampling from the correct ensemble.



I have generated velocities only for PR MD at 300K. after that I set '
gen_vel= no ' in mdp file.  After the position restrained MD , I slowly
increased the temparature from 80K , 100K , 200K and last 300K. (with
'gen_vel=no' for all MD)
Is it correct? Because I read both 'yes' and 'no' as possibilites in some
references. Iam bit confused which to use for exact simulations.


Personally, I don't think the practice of velocity reassignment in 
incremental heating while using position restraints is demonstrably 
better than not using reassignment in incremental heating.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Gromacs install question

2006-09-18 Thread Mark Abraham

Qiao Baofu wrote:

Hi all,

I have a question on installing gromacs:
I have installed gromacs 3.3.1 on my computer. And it works. Today, I 
want to change one commands, so I reinstalled it in the following process:

1. remove the formal direcory of gromacs
2. change to the installation directory of gromacs
3. ./configure
4. make
5 make install

The result is that  only the following commands  are installed in /bin 
directory of gromacs:  ffscan, gmxcheck, gmxdump, grompp,luck, mdrun, 
pdb2gmx,protonate,tpbconv, x2top.


What wrong with it? who can tell me? Thanks in advance!


Probably you didn't do those five steps as described :-) Why is this a 
problem? Just do it again.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] single point calculation

2006-09-18 Thread Mark Abraham

Reynier Suardiaz del Río wrote:
 
Hi, is my firt question in the list, i have a very simple and posibly a 
very nonsense question.
do i have to use mdrun to performe a single point calculation of a 
certain conformation? how? is there something to specify in .mdp file?


Just do a zero step minimization.

Can some body provide me an example of how to use ffscan? with a small 
molecule if it is possible...


Not I.

By the way, leaping straight into force field modification before 
acquiring some experince with gromacs (and/or MD in general) seems to me 
an excessively masochistic thing to want to do.


Mark
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[gmx-users] Re: The molecule size (jiqing)

2006-09-18 Thread 主月 :)



Hi:>  > >  > Two melt models were built for 
polyethylene (PE) and>  > polyvinylmethylether (PVME) melt with 
PBC condition .>  > >  > The density of both melt 
model agree with experimenal value well.But>  > when one check 
the radius of gyration (Rg) of them, both of them were>  > too 
small to accept as follows.>  > >  > The Rg for PE 
(C1000) is just 28 angstrom. It means the infinite>  > 
charaterastic ratio (Cinf) for the polymer is just about 2 which is 
much>  > smaller than scatter experimental value about 
7.>  > >  > The Rg for PVME (C44) melt is about 
6.6 angstrom. It means the Cinf for>  > the polymer is just 2.5 
which is much smaller than scatter experimental>  > value 
8-10.>  > >  > Can these results be 
accepted?>  > >  > Is there any fault in force 
field? gromos96aTwo things,- maybe you need a larger 
systems- maybe g_gyrate does not take periodicity into account correctly. 
extract some single molecules and look at them in a viewer, or write 
your own script to compute Rg.- have you used pbc = full for the 
simulations?
 
1.The cell length about my 
PVME model is 4.5 nm which is big enough for a PVME chain possesses all trans 
conformation.
 
2. The Rg is anaylzed by my own 
program, which has been validated.
 
3.PBC=XYZ
> > Usually a garbage result as output means that you 
had either garbage as> input, or garbage for the algorithm. Find a 
published article that> describes a similar simulation and adapt their 
method suitably.> Otherwise describe your method more thoroughly (e.g. 
how large was the> box, what ensemble did you use, equilibration regime, 
etc.) and maybe> someone has some judgement they can share with 
you.> > Mark>  > *Hi Mark:*> *Thanks for 
your advise. Because the PE model is built by one of my > officemate, i 
did not konw its details.*> ** > *The cell length about my PVME 
model is 4.5 nm which is big enough for a > PVME chain possesses all 
trans conformation. The ensemble is NVT with > the control file Pcoupl = 
no after 10ns NPT simulation to reach the > experimental density. The 
runtime for NVT is 5ns from which the relax > time for end to end vector 
is anaylzed. The relax time  is about 1ns. So > i think the system 
has been relaxed enough.*> ** > *Is there any error in my 
process?*> ** > *Maybe the residue parameter for PVME is also 
needed for discuss. They are:*> 
[ VME ]   [ atoms 
]    
;   atom type    
charge  cgnr CN   Gasteiger 
 CAB   CH1 
0.142 1  ;  
CN CAA   CH2 
0.035 1  ;  
CN OAD    OE    
-0.352 1  ;  
CN CAC   CH3 
0.174 1  ;  
CN [ bonds 
]    
; ai  aj  
fu    
   CAA   CAB   
gb_27     
CAB   OAD   
gb_53     
CAC   OAD   gb_53    
CAB  +CAA   gb_27    
  [ angles 
] 
; ai  aj  ak  fu    c0, c1, 
...    
   CAA   CAB   OAD   ga_30  
   CAB   OAD   CAC   ga_10 
   OAD   CAB  +CAA   
ga_30   CAA   CAB  +CAA   
ga_15   CAB  +CAA  +CAB   ga_15 

 
   [ 
dihedrals ]; ai  aj  ak  al  fu    c0, 
c1, m, ...  CAA  CAB  OAD  CAC   
gd_13  CAA  CAB +CAA +CAB   gd_34 +CAA  
CAB  OAD  CAC   gd_13 CAB  +CAA +CAB 
+OAD    gd_1

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: The molecule size (jiqing)

2006-09-18 Thread Mark Abraham
主月 :) wrote:
> Hi:

> Two things,
> 
> - maybe you need a larger systems
> - maybe g_gyrate does not take periodicity into account correctly.
> extract some single molecules and look at them in a viewer, or write
> your own script to compute Rg.
> - have you used pbc = full for the simulations?
>  
> 1.*The cell length about my PVME model is 4.5 nm which is big enough for 
> a PVME chain possesses all trans conformation.*

Fine, that would be a minimum necessary condition for something that was
expected to extend fully. You should actually increase that so that in
such a case the opposite ends can't see each other. You need margins at
least as large as your largest cut-offs. You can see if this is a
potential problem by seeing if any of your monomers do extend in this
way. Your experimental system probably had room for about 10^8 such
chains end to end, so there is a chance you're comparing apples and
oranges here.

> *2. The Rg is anaylzed by my own program, which has been validated.*
> ** 
> *3.PBC=XYZ*

Has this force field been demonstrated to be effective for this sort of
simulation? If not, maybe you've begun to demonstrate that it isn't?

Mark
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[gmx-users] single and double

2006-09-18 Thread chris . neale
My system here is an opls-aa protein in a POPE/DMPE membrane with  
tip4p waters.


Prior to adding counterions, grompp yields a net charge of -1.73  
and grompp_d yields -2.0. Once I have added counterions, both single  
and double precision don't give me a warning about a net charge on the  
system. Either system runs fine for many ns and they don't crash.


1. Is the net charge really as close to 0.0 in the single precision  
version as it is in the double, or just close enough that there is no  
warning issued?


2. If single is farther from 0.0, is this a problem?

3. Why does single run faster anyway? I though intel processors  
treated them the exact same way in terms of the operations that needed  
to be carried out?


Thanks.
Chris.

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Re: [gmx-users] periodic boundary condition

2006-09-18 Thread Cherry Y. Yates
Dear David, I tried to use x2top, but it ended up with the following error: 0: GROMOS96 43a1 force field  1: GROMOS96 43b1 vacuum force field 2: GROMOS96 43a2 force field (improved alkane dihedrals) 3: GROMOS96 45a3 force field (Schuler JCC 2001 22 1205) 4: GROMOS96 53a5 force field (JCC 2004 vol 25 pag 1656)  5: GROMOS96 53a6 force field (JCC 2004 vol 25 pag 1656)  6: OPLS-AA/L all-atom force field (2001 aminoacid dihedrals) 7: [DEPRECATED] Gromacs force field (see manual) 8: [DEPRECATED] Gromacs force field with hydrogens for NMR 9: Encad all-atom force field, using scaled-down vacuum charges10: Encad all-atom force field, using full solvent charges    0Looking whether force field file ffG43a1.rtp existsOpening library file /share/apps/gromacs-3.3/share/gromacs/top/ffG43a1.rtpGenerating bonds from distances...Opening library file
 /share/apps/gromacs-3.3/share/gromacs/top/ffG43a1.atpThere are 49 type to mass translationsatom 438---Program x2top, VERSION 3.3Source code file: futil.c, line: 537Fatal error:Library file ffG43a1.n2t not found in current dir nor in default directories.(You can set the directories to search with the GMXLIB path variable)Could you tell me what is wrong? Many thanks!!!CherryDavid van der Spoel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cherry Y. Yates wrote:> Dear gromacs developers and users,> > I am calculating a nanotube which has periodic boundary condition along > one direction. I wonder how to make an itp file for this system. The > difficulty lies in describing the bond between two end atoms, e.g., two
 > atoms are bonded in an infinite length system, but are located on the > bottom and top of a unit cell.use x2topand in your mdp file use pbc=full> > Thanks,> > Cherry> > > Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com > > > > > > ___> gmx-users mailing listgmx-users@gromacs.org> http://www.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users> Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the > www interface or send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php--
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