Re: [gentoo-user] Install on ZFS

[C .]

Rich Freeman  writes:
> Is this your first Gentoo install, or your first Gentoo+ZFS install?
> If the former, you're definitely not doing this the easy way...

Not easy, no. But definitely possible. I managed to do so.

One thing to keep in mind, though, is that it might be best to _not_ put
"/boot" on ZFS. I did and can't upgrade my zpool just yet, because - as
far as I know (please corret me if I am wrong)- Grub ain't able to boot
from a zpool that has been upgraded to latest ZoL (> 0.7). It works just
fine with 0.6.5.11 though.

Kind regards
Christian.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Install on ZFS

[C .]

"J. Roeleveld"  writes:

> On 15 August 2017 16:13:37 GMT+02:00, "C."  wrote:
>>Rich Freeman  writes:
>>> Is this your first Gentoo install, or your first Gentoo+ZFS install?
>>> If the former, you're definitely not doing this the easy way...
>>
>>Not easy, no. But definitely possible. I managed to do so.
>>
>>One thing to keep in mind, though, is that it might be best to _not_
>>put
>>"/boot" on ZFS. I did and can't upgrade my zpool just yet, because - as
>>far as I know (please corret me if I am wrong)- Grub ain't able to boot
>>from a zpool that has been upgraded to latest ZoL (> 0.7). It works
>>just
>>fine with 0.6.5.11 though.
>>
>>Kind regards
>>Christian.
>
> That's why the one I linked to actually tells you to create 2
> zpools. 1 for /boot and 1 for the rest.

Right, sorry, must've overlooked your link. Just as I have forgotten
about this during installation. Ah well.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Build librsvg-2.34.2 Error

[C Study]

I encountered this problem, and resolved it with the command 'emerge
dev-libs/gobject-introspection'.
These pages may help:
http://forums.funtoo.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4984
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=391213
Best regards.

2012/2/4 Alan McKinnon :
> On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:22:21 -0500
> Michael Mol  wrote:
>
>> > To install cairo, try
>> >
>> > emerge x11-libs/cairo
>> >
>> > Assuming that works, try
>> >
>> > emerge --resume
>> >
>> > If the build works, you should be good. If you get the same error,
>> > then you should file a bug report at bugs.gentoo.org.
>>
>> Actually, you should file a bug report either way, but the nature of
>> the bug is different. If emerging cairo fixes the build error, then
>> there's a dependency missing in the ebuild. If emerging cairo doesn't
>> fix the build error, something else is broken that I don't have a clue
>> about.
>
> I remember many times in the past having to deal with missing cairo.h
> and every time it was either that cairo's build was stuffed or the
> ebuild I was trying to emerge was stuffed.
>
> Bloody devs who insist on continually moving things around. Anyway, in
> each case a symlink to the offending file would fix it. But this hasn't
> happened in a long time now, maybe as much as a year.
>
>
>
> --
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> alan.mckin...@gmail.com
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] A few (gentoo-newbie) questions (mainly about binary packages)

[C. Beamer]

Hi,

Most of your questions have been answered by more knowledgeable people
on the list than I.  However, I do I one comment:

Richard Neill wrote:

>4)Does anyone know of a good resource for ex-mandriva users?
>
>  
>
I can't say enough good things about Gentoo documentation:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/list.xml

It has helped me out a number of times.  I'm a relatively new Gentoo
user as well (Sept. 2005) and I'm not a techy.  I used Redhat and then,
Fedora for about 4 years.

People on this list have been great and initially pointed me toward
various Gentoo documentation.  I've finally clued in and realized what
an invaluable resource this is.  Case in point:

I recently installed Gentoo on my laptop.  It's a 2.4 gHz with a 40 gig
hard drive, so perhaps it's a little more powerful than yours.  I
followed the steps in the Gentoo handbook and built ACPI into the
kernel.  Once I got to the boot stage, I had problems because I didn't
follow the ACPI guide and I should have.  Once I followed the steps in
that, I was able to compile xwindows and kde-meta without a hitch.

And for what it's worth, I had never compiled a kernel before using
Gentoo and now, I can do it without being scared out of my mind - I may
not be an expert, but I'm getting better and I am learning.  And as I
said, I'm not a techy - I could be someones grandmother!  :-)

I have to say that I am totally biased - Gentoo is the best!

Anyway, that's my 2 cents!  :-)

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg config

[C. Beamer]

John Jolet wrote:

> Okay, so i'm experimenting with the split kde ebuilds, having done a 
> kde-meta the last time.  However, when I did that, I got all my 
> hardware configured and set up automatically somehow.  when I just 
> did emerge kdebase-startkde, It won't allow me to go beyond 640x480.  
> So I ran xorgconfig, and now I've apparently picked the wrong mouse 
> (it's a usb trackball) port and nothing works.  Is there a script 
> that will set all this for me?  I really, REALLY hate mucking about 
> in that stupid xorg.conf file.

Xorg -configure

See:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml

Regards,

Colleen
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[gentoo-user] A Bit of Trivia

[C. Beamer]

Hello and Happy New Year to all,

I am so enamoured with Gentoo that I couldn't resist passing on this bit
of trivia.

O'Reilly recently published a book called "Linux Desktop Pocket
Reference".  The first chapter is available for viewing on the O'Reilly
website and in that chapter the author rated, from his personal
experience, 5 distributions under the following categories in the
process of getting Linux on the desktop:

Installation, Configuration, Program Installation, Documentation (Gentoo
rated 5 here, which is *totally* understandable and deserving), and
finally gave a weighted average for these.

The weighted averages for the 5 distros were:

Fedora: 3.45
*Gentoo: 3.75*
Mandriva: 3.70
Suse: 3.40
Ubuntu: 3.90

I've used all of these distros with the exception of Suse and can
understand why Ubuntu rated slightly higher than Gentoo.  I found it
very easy to get it installed and for me, it detected all my hardware
and configured everything without a glitch.  However, I find it
interesting to note that Gentoo scored the 2nd highest when it's
supposed to be one of the most difficult distros to get installed.

I admit, I did suffer some growing pains when installing Gentoo, but I
still think it's the greatest because of the control it gives me and I
have learned a lot about things like compiling the kernel in the process.

Gentoo rocks!

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] A Bit of Trivia

[C. Beamer]

Philip Webb wrote:

>060101 Chris White wrote:
>  
>
>>On Saturday 31 December 2005 22:35, C. Beamer wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Fedora: 3.45
>>>*Gentoo: 3.75*
>>>Mandriva: 3.70
>>>Suse: 3.40
>>>Ubuntu: 3.90
>>>  
>>>
>>Word of advice, things like this are generally flawed.
>>
>>
>
>Quite true, but I believe CB's point was simply
>that Gentoo is up there with the other well-known distros for usability.
>  
>
Exactly!  :-)  This rating was derived from the author's personal
experience.  Personally, I think that Gentoo is the best from my
experience.  It does have a bit of a learning curve (but because of the
things I've learned, I appreciated that learning curve), but I figure if
you give it a chance and can live with the long builds, it's rating is
well deserved.

>  
>
>>The best distro for your needs is the one
>>that best suits what you expect your system to do.
>>
>>
>
>Again, people out there should know that Gentoo may well be that distro.
>Gentoo is not difficult, but requires on-going attention & input from users:
>in return, you get a system which you can tune to do just what you want.
>
>My own recent experience trying to update the OS in my back-up machine was
>that Mandriva 2006 wouldn't install, Kubuntu could not be configured,
>as it refused to recognise the password (it uses the same for user & root),
>while Suse required downloading & writing  5  ISO's;
>Ubuntu, of course, is only for those who are willing to use Gnome.
>Finally, I got Mandriva 2005 installed & working well enough,
>but only with a lot of time & effort (the machine too slow for Gentoo).
>
>OTOH I've been using Gentoo in my main box without problems since 031005
>& have a fully upto-date environment which does just what I want it to do.
>
>Gentoo is probably suitable for a lot more users than realise it.
>  
>
I couldn't have said this better myself!  :-)

As I said in my original post, I've used all these distros with the
exception of Suse.  I have the most experience with Redhat and Fedora
and *personal opinion*, I would use Gentoo over any of them.

Sure, all distros have their good points and bad and it all comes down
to what works best for the person using it (as Chris pointed out).  I
didn't intend that this should be a "written in blood" evaluation.  I
just wanted to point out that a technical writer rated it well within a
group of well known distros when this would surprise a lot of people
(not necessarily Gentooists) and I thought you guys might find it
interesting.

And surely you guys must agree the the "Documentation" rating (this was
a 5 for Gentoo, and the highest) is right on!  Even an idiot like me can
follow this documentation and produce a favourable end result.

Happy New Year! :-)

Colleen
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[gentoo-user] emerge update question

[C. Beamer]

Hi all,

I ran emerge --sync this evening and afterwards when I did  'emerge
--pretend --update --deep world', I got the following result:

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies  .  ...done!
[ebuild UD] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.9a [1.0.10_rc3]
[ebuild U ] media-libs/xvid-1.0.3 [1.0.2]
[ebuild U ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20051216 [0.4.9_p20050226-r5]
[ebuild U ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.1-r3 [1.1.1-r2]
[ebuild U ] media-libs/libexif-0.6.12-r4 [0.5.12-r3]
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1 [0.23-r3]
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/hal-0.4.8 [0.4.7-r2]
[ebuild U ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.1 [1.2.0-r1]
[ebuild U ] media-video/transcode-0.6.14-r3 [0.6.14-r2]

I understand what this is telling me, but I don't understand why I would
need to downgrade alsa-utils.  I have alsa-driver version 1.0.10_r3 and
up until today, when I synced, there wasn't a problem with alsa-libs. 

I assumed that the downgrade was because one of the other packages in
the list.  However, I did 'emerge --pretend' on each of the other
packages and none listed alsa-utils as a dependency.  Then, I emerged
each of the packages individually and got no error messages.  After
emerging all other packages, my system reboots fine and there seems to
be no problems.  However, now if I run 'emerge --pretend --update --deep
world', emerge still wants to downgrade alsa-utils.

In other situations (like for the ati-drivers), I put
'=x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r5 ~x86' in my package.keywords file
to get around upgrading the driver because with the newer version of
this driver, my system won't  shutdown or reboot when either of those
options are chosen from the menu on KDE logout.  However, I tried this
and I get a message about an "invalid atom" (even without the ~x86 at
the end of the line).

I don't want to downgrade the alsa-utils in case it breaks alsa-driver
and as I said, I don't understand why all of a sudden I would have to.

How do I prevent the downgrade during an emerge --update world without
having to emerge each package individually?

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge update question

[C. Beamer]

Rumen Yotov wrote:

>On (03/01/06 00:30), C. Beamer wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I ran emerge --sync this evening and afterwards when I did  'emerge
>>--pretend --update --deep world', I got the following result:
>>
>>These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>>
>>Calculating world dependencies  .  ...done!
>>[ebuild UD] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.9a [1.0.10_rc3]
>>[ebuild U ] media-libs/xvid-1.0.3 [1.0.2]
>>[ebuild U ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20051216 [0.4.9_p20050226-r5]
>>[ebuild U ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.1-r3 [1.1.1-r2]
>>[ebuild U ] media-libs/libexif-0.6.12-r4 [0.5.12-r3]
>>[ebuild U ] sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1 [0.23-r3]
>>[ebuild U ] sys-apps/hal-0.4.8 [0.4.7-r2]
>>[ebuild U ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.1 [1.2.0-r1]
>>[ebuild U ] media-video/transcode-0.6.14-r3 [0.6.14-r2]
>>
>>I understand what this is telling me, but I don't understand why I would
>>need to downgrade alsa-utils.  I have alsa-driver version 1.0.10_r3 and
>>up until today, when I synced, there wasn't a problem with alsa-utils. 
>>
>>I assumed that the downgrade was because one of the other packages in
>>the list.  However, I did 'emerge --pretend' on each of the other
>>packages and none listed alsa-utils as a dependency.  Then, I emerged
>>each of the packages individually and got no error messages.  After
>>emerging all other packages, my system reboots fine and there seems to
>>be no problems.  However, now if I run 'emerge --pretend --update --deep
>>world', emerge still wants to downgrade alsa-utils.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>Hi,
>It's a question of adding one additional option to emerge: --tree (-t).
>It'll then display some additional packages for which the upgrades are
>dependencies, check the one above alsa-utils - it requires the downgrade.
>Rumen
>  
>
Since I upgraded all the packages individually, only alsa-utils remains
for upgrade/downgrade.  However, I did try 'emerge --pretend --update
--deep --tree alsa-utils' and it didn't return any dependencies.  The
list as given above was the complete list, so I'm not sure what was
meant by "check the one above alsa-utils'.

Regards,

Colleen
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[gentoo-user] jre question

[C. Beamer]

Hi all,

I did an 'emerge --sync' tonight.  One of the items on my list of
updates was sun-jre-bin.  Of course, the procedure is to download the
binary from sun and put it in /usr/portage/distfiles.

Prior to downloading, I unmerge (or thought I did), the previous
installation of jre.  However, after downloading the new version and
checking /usr/portage/distfiles/, I discovered that there are about 3
other versions of sun-jre-bin in this directory.  Can these be removed? 
Also, despite the unmerge, there are 3 other sun-jre-bin-
directories in /opt.  Can these also be safely removed?

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] jre question

[C. Beamer]

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Rumen Yotov wrote:

>On (08/01/06 02:44), C. Beamer wrote:
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I did an 'emerge --sync' tonight. One of the items on my list of
>>updates was sun-jre-bin. Of course, the procedure is to download the
>>binary from sun and put it in /usr/portage/distfiles.
>>
>>Prior to downloading, I unmerge (or thought I did), the previous
>>installation of jre. However, after downloading the new version and
>>checking /usr/portage/distfiles/, I discovered that there are about 3
>>other versions of sun-jre-bin in this directory. Can these be removed?
>>Also, despite the unmerge, there are 3 other sun-jre-bin-
>>directories in /opt. Can these also be safely removed?
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Colleen
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>>
>Hi,
>Yes, you can (i even do it ;-) remove old package sources. The single
drawback is that if
>you need to downgrade (rarely happens) you have to download them again
(i use "distclean" script).
>Check www.gentooexperimental.org for this and other usefull scripts.
>To your second question-just think (not sure) this are only parts of the
old installs.
>As far as you removed (emerge -C) the previous packages, this isn't a
great problem.
>Check the dirs content.
>HTH.Rumen

Thanks.  I did figure out that the directories in /opt were just
remnants - they only had the man directory in them, so I removed
them.  Will check out the link.  Also will take under advisement your
caution regarding the removal of files in /usr/portage/distfiles.
Based on what you said, I think I will keep one older version of the
sun-jre-bin versions, but I'll remove the others.

And this did help.

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] amarok sound engine

[C. Beamer]

Martins Steinbergs wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I emerged amarok, great gui to manage collection, but sound output is bumpy 
>with xine engine. gstreamer apears not to work at all. I tried to tweak 
>settings and xine config with no luck. However, playing adio directly in xine 
>output is clear.
>What is your expierence, any sugestion where to look.
>
>i have alsa on
>00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 
>AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
>  
>
Hi,

I don't know if you've solved this issue.  I'm using the Xine engine
with amaroK (1.3.6) and it works fine.  Did you choose an "output
plugin" in the 'Configure amaroK --> Engine' screen, or did you let it
auto detect?  Mine is set to auto detect.

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[gentoo-user] Faxing in Gentoo with Digital Phone Line

[C. Beamer]

Hi Guys:

I'm a little fuzzy here, so I'm asking for help.

I recently subscribed to my local cable company's digital phone
service.  Now, I would like to send a fax from my computer.  Is
rp-ppoe what I need (and of course a fax client) to do this?  If this
is not what I need, please advise.

Regards,

Colleen

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[gentoo-user] Printing Problem

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Hi All,

Well, I'm progressing with Gentoo.  I now have it on my main computer
and am *very* pleased.  I even managed to get my Radeon 8500 graphics
card working with 3D acceleration.

However, I am having problems with getting printing to work.

I emerged both hal and cups.  Using kde's print manager, I was able to
configure my DeskJet printer - the printer was recognized in the 'Add
Printer' interface.  However, when I send a print job to the printer,
nothing happens.

Second problem is that I have another printer connected to my system.
The DeskJet is connected via usb.  However, I have a Laser Jet
connected to the parallel port.  I built parallel support into the
kernel, but in the kde print manager, the printer does not appear in
the 'Add Printer' interface.

Any help would be appreciated.

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Printing Problem

[C. Beamer]

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Thanks John,


Boy, do I have "egg on my face" with the first issue!

John Jolet wrote:

>
> On Sep 10, 2005, at 11:55 AM, C. Beamer wrote:
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>>
>> I emerged both hal and cups. Using kde's print manager, I was
>> able to configure my DeskJet printer - the printer was recognized
>> in the 'Add Printer' interface. However, when I send a print job
>> to the printer, nothing happens.


>> On the first problem, do a tail -f on /var/log/cups/error_log and
>> send a job. see what it says.

When I did this, I discovered that "user colleen was denied".  In the
kde printer configuration, you set users for allowed and denied.
Well, I set my users okay, but didn't know that they went into the
denied list instead of allowed.  Once I fixed this, I was able to
print just fine.

The second problem is still an issue.

>>
>>
>> Second problem is that I have another printer connected to my
>> system. The DeskJet is connected via usb. However, I have a
>> Laser Jet connected to the parallel port. I built parallel
>> support into the kernel, but in the kde print manager, the
>> printer does not appear in the 'Add Printer' interface.


Regards,

Colleen
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[gentoo-user] Opinions?

[C. Beamer]

Hi All,

A friend (non-Gentoo user) sent me this Gentoo-related url:

http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=16002

I got Gentoo installed with only a few hitches and it's running like a
charm since the install, but I'm still a "newbie" when it comes to
Gentoo, so I bow to the superior knowledge of the people on this list.

The url is about a KDE app called Kuroo that is supposed to be a
frontend to the portage tree.  You are supposed to be able to search for
installed packages, among other things.  Has anyone heard of this?  Any
opinions?

Take care,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions?

[C. Beamer]

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Arkady Grudzinsky wrote:

> I would compare GUI to helper wheels for bycicles. You may need
> them if you can't ride, but once you know how to ride they start
> limiting you and getting in your way. In my experience, time spent
> to learn the text interface is much better invested than time
> spent to learn which button to push, which box to check and where
> the menu item is located. Text commands combined with the arsenal
> of standard UNIX tools (awk, sed, Perl, piping, regular
> expressions, output redirection, shell scripting, job scheduling)
> are way more powerful and flexible than any imaginable GUI.
>
> Image processing tools are exceptions (to certain extent) to which
> portage does not belong.
>
> Just an opinion... (you asked for one).

Yes, I did ask for an opinion.  :-)

Just for the record, this isn't an issue of not being able to use the
command line.  I *love* the command line.  That's one of a number of
reasons that I moved to Linux.  :-)

However, I am still learning Gentoo and haven't yet figured out all
the nuances of portage.  I was just curious to find out if anyone had
tried the program.  I was not necessarily suggesting that I was about
to jump on the bandwagon.

Thanks for the opinions.  As of now, I think I'll just stick to
learning portage!  :-)

Regards,

Colleen
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[gentoo-user] ntsysv equivalent

[C. Beamer]

Hi all,

When I installed Gentoo, I chose syslog-ng as my system logger.  It was
suggested that I install logrotate to prevent my logfiles from becoming
unmanagageably large.  I did this.  However, my /var/log/messages file
includes logging from the first day that Gentoo was running on my system
and that's now about 2 weeks.

Is there a default length of time before logrotate will rotate the log
files?

This is a gentoo user list, right?  That's what I am - a user.  So don't
laugh at this question.  I was using Fedora Core, so all these things
were automatically set up for me.  I'm not stupid.  Heck, I got Gentoo
installed with only a few hitches, so I can be taught.  However, if
logrotate requires some configuration, I have no idea how to do it, so
would appreciate some help.

Also, does Gentoo have an equivalent to ntsysv where you can set
services to stop and start?  I assume that when you issue the command
rc-update add  default that this essentially is telling
some service to start at boot time.  However, if there is something like
ntsysv available where you can see the services that are running, I
would appreciate being told what it is.

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] ntsysv equivalent

[C. Beamer]

Neil Bothwick wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:11:02 -0400, C. Beamer wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Is there a default length of time before logrotate will rotate the log
>>files?
>>
>>
>
>Do you have a config file for syslog-ng in /etc/logrotate.d? This should
>have been installed when you merged syslog-ng. If not, you'll find the
>file at /usr/portage/app-admin/syslog-ng/files/syslog-ng.logrotate, copy
>it to /etc/logrotate.d/syslog-ng.
>  
>
Yes, I have /etc/logrotate.d/syslog-ng.  This is what it says, but I
have no idea what it means (I'm not a programmer):

/var/log/messages {
sharedscripts
postrotate
/etc/init.d/syslog-ng reload > /dev/null 2>&1 || true
endscript

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] ntsysv equivalent (and logrotate frequency)

[C. Beamer]

John Myers wrote:

>On Saturday 17 September 2005 20:11, C. Beamer wrote:
>  
>
>>
>>Is there a default length of time before logrotate will rotate the log
>>files?
>>
>>
>check in /etc/logrotate.conf. I believe the default is weekly. Also, if your 
>system is not run continuously, you may want to look into anacron, as 
>logrotate is run as a daily cron job
>  
>
Actally, I think the problem was that I didn't have a logrotate.conf
file.  I copied the one from /usr/portage/app-admin/logrotate/files/ and
put it in my /etc directory.

>
>For future reference, it is generally best to send separate messages to the 
>list for separate topics. i.e. one message for logrotate, and one message for 
>the service viewer. Makes it easier for potential responders to find 
>interesting questions, and for people searching for answers to find them.
>  
>
Sorry!  :-(  I'll remember this in future.  Thanks!  :-)

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.  (Thanks to Neil
Bothwick, too!  :-) )

Gentoo is terrific, but a bit of a learning curve when you come from a
distro that does all the configuration for you.  However, I aspire to be
a "geek" like Holly (and that's meant as a sincere compliment, although
I'll never be that good, but one can dream!), so I'm determined to learn
this stuff.  Once I've done it once, I'll know for the next time.

Take care,

Colleen

>  
>
>>Also, does Gentoo have an equivalent to ntsysv where you can set
>>services to stop and start?  I assume that when you issue the command
>>rc-update add  default that this essentially is telling
>>some service to start at boot time.  
>>
>>
>Correct.
>
>  
>
>>However, if there is something like 
>>ntsysv available where you can see the services that are running, I
>>would appreciate being told what it is.
>>
>>
>as "Daevid Vincent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>   rc-update show
>also 
>   rc-status
>  
>

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[gentoo-user] A Gentoo Equivalent

[C. Beamer]

Hi all,

I'm not sure how to do the equivalent of the following in Gentoo, so any
help would be appreciated.

When I used Fedora Core, on a daily basis, I could fire up Pine (or
Mutt) and would get an e-mail that was essentially the output from my
log files.  One of the things that would be listed is the listing for
the cron jobs that I had set up (and the outcome), for instance, running
the perl script that updates the virus definitions for F-prot.  In Pine,
which is what I use, the mail would be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How would this be accomplished in Gentoo?

Regards,

Colleen
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[gentoo-user] Mail configuration problem

[C. Beamer]

Hi all,

Yesterday, I posted asking for a Gentoo equivalent of something I was
able to do in Fedora,  I got some answers which were of assistance, one
being to check my logwatch.conf file to see what the frequency was set
at.  This helped because it was set weekly and since I had just
installed logwatch the day before, I would have had to wait a week to
see if it was working, so I changed the frequency to daily.

As it turns out, logwatch is working.  However, what I want to be able
to do is to fire up Pine and be able to view the emails sent by logwatch
to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and this isn't working - I have a dead.letter file
in my /root directory.

I cat'ed the dead letter file and at the end, the following appears:

send-mail: RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (504 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Sender address rejected: need fully-qualified address)
Can't send mail: sendmail process failed with error code 1

My computer is stand alone except that it has a router which is
connected to my cable modem because my son connects wirelessly to the
internet through that.  However, his laptop and my PC have no network
attachment.

My resolve.conf file has proper ip information.  In my hosts file,
localhost is set to 127.0.0.1  My /etc/conf.d/domainname does not have a
FQDN set because when I installed Gentoo, I was under the impression
that I didn't need one because the computer is not networked and I
obtain my ip address using dhcp

Sorry, I know I'm a bit verbose here, but I have no idea where I'm going
wrong, so I figure that the more details that I can provide might better
enable someone to guide me in the right direction.

Any help would be appreciated.  Oh, and as far as I can tell, my
/etc/mail/aliases file looks okay.

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mail configuration problem

[C. Beamer]

Dave Nebinger wrote:

>> I cat'ed the dead letter file and at the end, the following appears:
>>
>> send-mail: RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (504 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Sender address rejected: need fully-qualified address)
>> Can't send mail: sendmail process failed with error code 1
>
>
> What MTA are you using, Colleen?  That will be the first step to
> helping you to configure to allow deliveries to localhost.

I'm using the Gentoo default, ssmtp.  I tried to emerge sendmail, but it
is blocked by ssmtp.  I didn't know if I should go ahead and unmerge
ssmtp and emerge sendmail or not.  I only really need it for this one
function.

Take care,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Cups does not see devices

[C. Beamer]

Hi,

I had a situation when I was trying to get my Laser Jet printer
recognized.  I was fine with the ink jet, which was connected via usb,
but the laser was connected to a parallel port.

I had to recompile the kernel and select
Device Drivers -->
 Parallel Port Support -->
 <*>Parallel Port Support
<*> PC-Style Hardware

Don't know if this is a solution to your problem, but thought I would
post anyway.

Regards,

Colleen

Paweł Madej wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I got problem with my FreeBSD box.
> I installed cups cups-base and other stuff for it and when i try to
> add printer via webinterface it don't see any device (like parallel,
> usb, http and so on).
>
> Anybody got idea what could cause it? And how to resolve that problem?
>
> Thanks for any help
>
> Pawel


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[gentoo-user] Scanner Trouble

[C. Beamer]

Hi,

When I first installed Gentoo on my main machine about a month ago, my
scanner was working just fine.  I don't use it that much, but today when
I went to use it (using xsane), I got a message that no devices were found.

I checked dmesg and as far as I can tell, there doesn't seem to be
anything wrong.

The only thing that I did that might have affected it (although it
doesn't seem to have affected anything else) is:

emerge --update --deep mozilla-firefox  (because there was an updated
Firefox package)

When I did this, emerge updated 26 packages including some x packages,
so I don't know if this is what is causing the problem.

The scanner works in Window - I tested it to be sure that it wasn't a
scanner problem.

Additionally, I used to have this problem when I ran FC4 all the time. 
I have a USB printer, zip drive and game pad all connected to my system
and all work fine.  The scanner is USB as well and in FC4, I used to
always have to remove the usb cable and plug it back in again and then I
could get xsane to recognize the scanner.  However, I tried that and had
no luck.

Any ideas?

Regards,

Colleen
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[gentoo-user] Re: Scanner Trouble - Solved (I think)

[C. Beamer]

Hi all,

I honestly don't know what I did.  I was playing around checking
different settings and now xsane works fine.

Sorry for the bother.

Regards,

Colleen

C. Beamer wrote:

>Hi,
>
>When I first installed Gentoo on my main machine about a month ago, my
>scanner was working just fine.  I don't use it that much, but today when
>I went to use it (using xsane), I got a message that no devices were found.
>
>I checked dmesg and as far as I can tell, there doesn't seem to be
>anything wrong.
>
>The only thing that I did that might have affected it (although it
>doesn't seem to have affected anything else) is:
>
>emerge --update --deep mozilla-firefox  (because there was an updated
>Firefox package)
>
>When I did this, emerge updated 26 packages including some x packages,
>so I don't know if this is what is causing the problem.
>
>The scanner works in Window - I tested it to be sure that it wasn't a
>scanner problem.
>
>Additionally, I used to have this problem when I ran FC4 all the time. 
>I have a USB printer, zip drive and game pad all connected to my system
>and all work fine.  The scanner is USB as well and in FC4, I used to
>always have to remove the usb cable and plug it back in again and then I
>could get xsane to recognize the scanner.  However, I tried that and had
>no luck.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Regards,
>
>Colleen
>
>  
>

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[gentoo-user] Omitting blocked package when updating world

[C. Beamer]

Hi,

I've had Gentoo installed on my main computer for about a month now and
want to update world.

When I did 'emerge --pretend --update --deep world'  I got told that a
package that I had installed was blocking another package.  I want to
update but omit the blocked package from the update, which incidentally
is not installed on my system.

I looked in the Gentoo documentation which told me that I had 2 options
- to omit the blocked package or remove the blocked package.  Since the
blocked package is not installed on my system, my only option is to
omit, but I couldn't find how to omit it in the documentation.  Nor,
could I figure out from the man page how to do it.

So what do I use to omit a package from being updated when I want to run
'emerge --update --deep world'

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Omitting blocked package when updating world

[C. Beamer]

Rumen Yotov wrote:

>On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 19:09 -0400, C. Beamer wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I've had Gentoo installed on my main computer for about a month now and
>>want to update world.
>>
>>When I did 'emerge --pretend --update --deep world'  I got told that a
>>package that I had installed was blocking another package.  I want to
>>update but omit the blocked package from the update, which incidentally
>>is not installed on my system.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Colleen
>>
>>
>Hi,
>Think it mostly depends on which is the package in question.
>Seen three types of package blocking:
>1.a new version blocking the old version of the same package - remove it
>then add again;
>2.A new package wants to install but there is another package serving
>the same role, e.g mail-server: qmail, postfix, exim all provide -
>virtual/mta (IIRC), so only one could get installed;
>3.Think it's your case. Some other package (which is installed) has a
>*new* dependency on another one (not installed), which provides the same
>'virtual/...' as third one (installed).
>This could happen when using -D/--deep flag - try without it to check
>and use -t/-tree option to see the deps. But it depends on the package
>in question & friends.
>HTH.Rumen
>  
>
I went to the painstaking effort of updating each package on my system
that required updating individually and am left with this, which is the
result of 'emerge --pretend --update --deep world':

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[blocks B ] From this, I assume that the installed package, Pine, is blocking the
package nw-mail-utils-2004g, which is *not* installed.  So, how do I
prevent uw-mailutils-2004g from being installed so I can update Pine?

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Omitting blocked package when updating world

[C. Beamer]

Holly Bostick wrote:

>C. Beamer schreef:
>  
>
>>I went to the painstaking effort of updating each package on my
>>system that required updating individually and am left with this,
>>which is the result of 'emerge --pretend --update --deep world':
>>
>>Calculating world dependencies ...done! [blocks B ]
>>>[ebuild  N] net-mail/uw-mailutils-2004g [ebuild U ]
>>mail-client/pine-4.64-r1 [4.63-r2]
>>
>>
>>
>>>From this, I assume that the installed package, Pine, is blocking
>>>the
>>>  
>>>
>>package nw-mail-utils-2004g, which is *not* installed.  So, how do I 
>>prevent uw-mailutils-2004g from being installed so I can update Pine?
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Colleen
>>
>>
>
>You can't-- this is a normal block:
>
>Remove (unemerge) Pine, then merge the updated version, so the
>dependencies will be installed prior to the program they depend on.
>  
>
Thank you, Holly .. :-)

For the right answer, for your patience with a "newbie" to Gentoo and
for always seeming to have the right answer to any post that you reply to.

I learned something new today.  I *did* try using equery to determine
the dependencies of pine and  uw-mailutils-2004g, but didn't get any
dependencies listed.  Anyway, next time, I won't have to bother the list
with a like problem.  :-)

Take care,

Colleen
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[gentoo-user] ODBC Connection to MySQL database

[C. Beamer]

Hello all,

I am trying to set up an ODBC connection to a MySQL database.  I have
done this before when I used Fedora Core, but when I tried to do it
today on my Gentoo system, I got an error message when I tested the
connection.

I have both UnixODBC and myodbc installed.

The instructions that I previously followed to set this up in Fedora
were as follows:

create 2 files - odbcinst.ini and odbc.ini  These files were supposed to
be in /etc.  In Fedora Core, there were templates to use, but I had to
completely create the files in Gentoo.

In the odbcinst.ini file, the line for the driver when I did this in
Fedora Core was:
Driver = /usr/lib/libmyodbc.so

In Gentoo, there is no libmyodbc.so.  There is, however, a libmyodbc3.so
which is a symlink to libmyodbc3-3.51.11.so

Therefore, I used /usr/lib/libmyodbc3.so as the driver.

In the odbc.ini file, the proper name of the database was listed.

After creating the odbcinst.ini and odbc.ini files,, I ran 'isql
MySQL-home home' which was supposed to test the connectivity to the
database and I got the error [ISQL]ERROR: Could not SQLConnect

When I did a google search for the error message, I came across a
post where it was asked what the output of isql -v was.  I ran
this on my system and got the following message:

[IM010][unixODBC][Driver Manager]Data source name too long

I've posted to the UnixODBC support list, but my reason for posting here
is to ask if anyone knows whether the instructions that I used to set
this up should have been done differently in Gentoo.  And for what it's
worth, although the database was created when I used Fedora Core and
then, copied into the appropriate place in Gentoo, the database works
fine when I use it from within MySQL.

Regards,

Colleen
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[gentoo-user] Re: ODBC Connection to MySQL and necessary packages

[C. Beamer]

Hi,

I have further info to that listed below.

As stated below, I followed the same instructions to set this up in
Gentoo as I did in Fedora Core.  However, this morning, I was doing a
google search to see if I could find more information.  The document
that I followed has had a revision and now to create an ODBC connection
to a MySQL database, you need 2 things:

1) MyODBC, which I have installed, and
2) MySQL-shared

The documentation that this was taken from was using an rpm based system
for the example, and ergo, the MySQL-shared referenced was an rpm package.

I've tried googling for 'mysql-shared and gentoo', but I can't figure
out what Gentoo package this might refer to.

Does anyone know?


Regards,

Colleen


C. Beamer wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>I am trying to set up an ODBC connection to a MySQL database.  I have
>done this before when I used Fedora Core, but when I tried to do it
>today on my Gentoo system, I got an error message when I tested the
>connection.
>
>I have both UnixODBC and myodbc installed.
>
>The instructions that I previously followed to set this up in Fedora
>were as follows:
>
>create 2 files - odbcinst.ini and odbc.ini  These files were supposed to
>be in /etc.  In Fedora Core, there were templates to use, but I had to
>completely create the files in Gentoo.
>
>In the odbcinst.ini file, the line for the driver when I did this in
>Fedora Core was:
>Driver = /usr/lib/libmyodbc.so
>
>In Gentoo, there is no libmyodbc.so.  There is, however, a libmyodbc3.so
>which is a symlink to libmyodbc3-3.51.11.so
>
>Therefore, I used /usr/lib/libmyodbc3.so as the driver.
>
>In the odbc.ini file, the proper name of the database was listed.
>
>After creating the odbcinst.ini and odbc.ini files,, I ran 'isql
>MySQL-home home' which was supposed to test the connectivity to the
>database and I got the error [ISQL]ERROR: Could not SQLConnect
>
>When I did a google search for the error message, I came across a
>post where it was asked what the output of isql -v was.  I ran
>this on my system and got the following message:
>
>[IM010][unixODBC][Driver Manager]Data source name too long
>
>I've posted to the UnixODBC support list, but my reason for posting here
>is to ask if anyone knows whether the instructions that I used to set
>this up should have been done differently in Gentoo.  And for what it's
>worth, although the database was created when I used Fedora Core and
>then, copied into the appropriate place in Gentoo, the database works
>fine when I use it from within MySQL.
>
>Regards,
>
>Colleen
>
>  
>

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[gentoo-user] Open Office and ODBC Connection to MySQL

[C. Beamer]

Hi all,

I'm tearing my hair out by the roots on this one.

First, I had a bit of a problem getting the the ODBC connection to my
MySQL database set up.  That was my own fault though 'cause a couple of
files that I though were supposed to go in /etc (that's where they went
in Fedora Core) were actually supposed to go in /etc/unixODBC/.

So, I got the connection set up okay.

The issue that I'm having is that once I got the ODBC connection
working, I can view the data source in Open Office, but cannot edit the
table.  I took a look on Gentoo Forums and I found one similar issue
except that it turned out that the person did not have a primary key
set.  I have a primary key set in the MySQL database, but I still can't
edit the table in Open Office.

I have no idea what to try next.  I'm using the ebuild
openoffice-bin-1.1.5.  However, I tried the openoffice-ximian ebuild and
had no better luck with that.

I don't think its a permission problem 'cause I checked this and I am a
member of the mysql group.

Any ideas?

Regards,

Colleen
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[gentoo-user] MySQL Upgrade

[C. Beamer]

Hi all,

I just upgraded MySQL using the instructions on the Gentoo website.  For
the most part, everything went fine and now everything works, but I had
to make a couple of adjustments.  My question now is if there is a
proper way to do what I did as a workaround.

In September, when I wiped Fedora Core off my main system and installed
Gentoo, I had a MySQL database that I used for one reason and one reason
only.  To get my database files from the FC4 system to Gentoo, I just
copied them to a ZIP drive.  When I installed MySQL, in /var/lib/mysql/
I created a directory with the name of my database and copied my
database related files into that directory.  Then I set up the users
allowed to access to the database.  This worked fine and is the
workaround that I had to do today after upgrading MySQL.

The instructions on the Gentoo website for upgrading gave a step by step
to create a backup of my database.  However, when I went to restore the
database after the upgrade, the restore didn't work.  I'm thinking that
it was because of the way I got my database files into MySQL when I
initially installed MySQL under Gentoo.

Is there a way to rectify this so that the backup will work for future
upgrades?

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL Upgrade

[C. Beamer]

Qian Qiao wrote:

>>The instructions on the Gentoo website for upgrading gave a step by step
>>to create a backup of my database.  However, when I went to restore the
>>database after the upgrade, the restore didn't work.  I'm thinking that
>>it was because of the way I got my database files into MySQL when I
>>initially installed MySQL under Gentoo.
>>
>>Is there a way to rectify this so that the backup will work for future
>>upgrades?
>>
>>
>
>What was the error message, if it was about the key length exceeding
>1000, then you hit a known bug.
>  
>
No, I didn't get any error messages on restoring the database that was
created by the backup process that was included in the instructions. 
Also, the process for fixing the grant tables was fine.  However, when I
started mysql and tried to use the database, I was told that the
database didn't exist and upon checking, I discovered that the only
database that was there was "test".

So, in essence, the restore *did* work, but the backup just didn't pick
up my database.

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL Upgrade

[C. Beamer]

Qian Qiao wrote:

>On 10/30/05, C. Beamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>Qian Qiao wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What was the error message, if it was about the key length exceeding
>>>1000, then you hit a known bug.
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>No, I didn't get any error messages on restoring the database that was
>>created by the backup process that was included in the instructions.
>>Also, the process for fixing the grant tables was fine.  However, when I
>>started mysql and tried to use the database, I was told that the
>>database didn't exist and upon checking, I discovered that the only
>>database that was there was "test".
>>
>>So, in essence, the restore *did* work, but the backup just didn't pick
>>up my database.
>>
>>
>
>So the mysqldump you did on the 4.0 didn't dump the databases other
>than test, hmmm.
>  
>

That's correct.  And as stated in my original post, I think it might
have something to do with the way I got the database into Gentoo - a
mkdir named after the database and then copy the related database files
into the directory.

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL Upgrade

[C. Beamer]

Hi,

Jeff Smelser wrote:

>On Sunday 30 October 2005 05:15 pm, C. Beamer wrote:
>
>  
>
>>The instructions on the Gentoo website for upgrading gave a step by step
>>to create a backup of my database.  However, when I went to restore the
>>database after the upgrade, the restore didn't work.  I'm thinking that
>>it was because of the way I got my database files into MySQL when I
>>initially installed MySQL under Gentoo.
>>
>>
>
>The problem here, is your not giving us enough to say what really went wrong 
>with the restore. If you have innodb tables, for example, you can't just 
>restore them in all cases, without tweaking things a bit.. Your just assuming 
>what the issue was, and telling us, then saying we should tweak things based 
>off something you really dont know..
>  
>
Nothing went wrong with the restore per se.  And you're right, I am
assuming the problem.

A better description would have been that the restore worked.  However,
the only database that was restored was the test database.  The database
that I had created by creating a directory that was named after the
database that I had created when using FC4 and then copying my database
related files into it, did not back up.  Hence my assumption that
because the database was *not* created in MySQL under Gentoo, perhaps
this was the reason that the backup did not "pick up" (for lack of a
better description) this database.

This is not a real big deal.  I can perform the same workaround that I
did this time.  I was just curious if there was a way to fix this so
that my database would back up properly.

A suggestion was made that I try to dump this database using mysqldump. 
It was stated that if I can use the database, which I can, I should be
able to dump it.  I haven't had a chance to try this yet.

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL Upgrade

[C. Beamer]

Jeff Smelser wrote:

>On Tuesday 01 November 2005 04:58 pm, C. Beamer wrote:
>
>  
>
>>The database
>>that I had created by creating a directory that was named after the
>>database that I had created when using FC4 and then copying my database
>>related files into it, did not back up.  Hence my assumption that
>>because the database was *not* created in MySQL under Gentoo, perhaps
>>this was the reason that the backup did not "pick up" (for lack of a
>>better description) this database.
>>
>>
>
>How were you backing/restoring it from, if you were not using mysqldump then? 
>I have done the above several times, and its always backed it up.
>  
>

This is probably more of an explanation than you require, but I'm going
to give it anyway.  :-)  Back a couple of years ago, I was looking for a
database program that I could use in Linux.  The database that I'm
speaking about in this thread was originally created in Microsoft
Access.  At that time, it was the last hurdle that kept me regularly
going into Windows on my home computer.

I read a bit about MySQL and since I had taken a basic DB2 course a
number of years ago, I figured that I could get the database into MySQL
by exporting it as a text file and then using that to create the MySQL
database.  So, that tells you that I am not a database guru by any means.

Up until now, what I needed to do in MySQL, I could do just fine and
never even knew about mysqldump until recently.  As I previously stated,
I've only been using Gentoo since September.  When I used to use FC4,
all I ever did was make a copy of the database files that had the
extensions of .MYI, .MYD and .frm and then when I needed to because of
an upgrade where I wiped my system, I would just create a directory in
the appropriate place that was named after the database and then copy
these files back into the directory.  Then, all I would have to do was
set up the appropriate permissions for access and I could use the
database.  This is how I did it to get the database into Gentoo
originally as well.

This works and is not a big deal.  As I said, I'm just curious if there
is a way to fix things so that my database will be backed up properly
with the mysqldump process that is run when upgrading.  As I also
stated, I haven't had the chance to try dumping the existing database
alone using mysqldump.

Regards,

Colleen
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[gentoo-user] MySQL issue

[C. Beamer]

Hi,

Without going into a long drawn out explanation, I was having a problem
with something on my system and though that maybe it was because of the
upgrade I did to MySQL.  So, I decided I was going to unmerge MySQL and
emerge it again.  That may have been a dumb move, but what the heck, you
learn by your mistakes right?

Anyway, that seemed to be fine, but now, I'm getting an error message:

ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket
'/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)

I googled for this and gather that it has something to do with the
placement of the mysqld.sock file.

The problem is the only post that I found that was specific to Gentoo
was in German.  Since I don't want to screw things up any more than they
already are, I'm turning here for help.

I do have the file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock

How do I fix this?

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL issue

[C. Beamer]

John Jolet wrote:

>
> On Nov 3, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Jeff Smelser wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 03 November 2005 07:49 am, C. Beamer wrote:
>>
>>
>>> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through  socket
>>> '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)
>>>
>>> I
>>> I do have the file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
>>>
>>
>> Thats a connection refused message.. Make sure the proper mysql 
>> files are
>> there, and you may need to restart it to load your versions of the 
>> grant
>> tables.
>>
> you  might also shut down mysql, verify that all processes are gone, 
> and make sure that file is gone.  that file should ONLY exist while 
> mysql is running.

Both of the above tips helped.  I'm not sure what happened, but I think
that mysql was not shutting down properly.  Anyway, I finally gave up,
unmerged the upgraded mysql depcleaned and then deleted a few files that
did not get removed with the unmerge process, did a fresh install of
mysql and everything seems to be working again.

Just wanted to say thanks!  :-)

Regards,

Colleen
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[gentoo-user] Shutdown/Restart Issue

[C. Beamer]

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Hi All,

Recently, I've started to experience an issue when trying to restart
or shutdown my computer using the K menu "Log Out" selection, which
gives the options to "End Current Session", "Restart the Computer",
"Turn of the Computer" and of course, "Cancel".  If I select to
restart or turn off the computer, the computer will do neither.  My
monitor shuts down, but the computer itself neither restarts or shuts
off depending on which selection I've made.

I *can* restart or shutdown properly if I do it from the command line
in a terminal window.  This probably isn't a specific Gentoo issue.
It *could* be a KDE issue, but I haven't done anything to KDE.  When I
installed KDE in September, I emerged kde-meta.  I don't recall if
there have been updates since then, but I know that I could shutdown
or restart using the menu selection and no changes were made to KDE
since before this behaviour started.

This seemed to start around the same time as I upgraded mysql.  I
don't know specifically if that had anything to do with it.  I'm just
saying that this behaviour started around that time and up until then,
everything was fine.

Any ideas?

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown/Restart Issue

[C. Beamer]

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Philip Webb wrote:

>On Friday 04 November 2005 20:49,
C. Beamer wrote:
>
>>Recently, when trying to restart or shutdown my computer
>>using the K menu "Log Out" selection, which gives the options
>>to "End Current Session", "Restart the Computer", "Turn of
the Computer".
>>If I select to restart or turn off, my monitor shuts down,
>>but the computer itself neither restarts or shuts off.
>
>
>For "shut off", the problem could result from a recent kernel
update,
>if you didn't activate the config line to allow power management.
>I'm not sure if that would affect "restart" as well.
>That's just 1 suggestion: HTH.
>
Not the case in this situation.  True, when I did an emerge recently,
it downloaded new kernel sources, but I haven't installed them yet.
(This is because I am working on something that has a deadline and
I've never updated the kernel in Gentoo before.  Despite the fact that
the Gentoo documentation is excellent, I don't want to risk making a
"boo-boo" and then being at a point where I might have to spend days
correcting my mistake.)

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown/Restart Issue

[C. Beamer]

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Martins Steinbergs wrote:

>On Friday 04 November 2005 20:49,
C. Beamer wrote:
>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>Recently, I've started to experience an issue when trying to
restart
>>or shutdown my computer using the K menu "Log Out" selection,
which
>>gives the options to "End Current Session", "Restart the
Computer",
>>"Turn of the Computer" and of course, "Cancel". If I select to
>>restart or turn off the computer, the computer will do
neither. My
>>monitor shuts down, but the computer itself neither restarts
or shuts
>>off depending on which selection I've made.
>
>
>i,v run into this problem few weeks ago too with no luck fixing
it. yes, and 
>sometimes shutdown from console fails too. 
>only guess in list was - "It seems X f***s up your video memory,
or something 
>of this kind". Anyway should check forums and bugs for something
similar.

Well, I'm certainly not an authority here, but based on your comment,
I do recall that when I did a recent update (either the emerge of Open
Office 2.0 or the upgrade of MySQL), one of them changed some files
that were related to X and QT (sorry, this isn't a very good
description - I just saw the listing go by on the screen).  At the end
of the emerge, I got told that some configuration files in /etc had
changed and what to do to find out out the files were.  When I ran
etc-update, it then gave me 3 choices regarding what to do -1, -3, and
- -5.  I chose the -3 options, which replaces the config files.

However, even knowing this, and surmising that this might be the
problem, I have no idea what to do to correct it.

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Visited web sites

[C. Beamer]

Mark Knecht wrote:

>Hi,
>   My wife is asking if there is an easy way to keep a list of all web
>sites visited on a specific computer in the house. I don't know about
>such stuff. Is there any way to do that for either Mozilla or Firefox?
>  
>
In Firefox:  Edit --> Preferences -->  Select the "Privancy Icon" and
then click the + sign beside History.  You can enter the number of days
that you want to retain history for sites visited.  Enter a number of
days that you think is appropriate.

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get spellchecking to work on evolution

[C. Beamer]

Hi,

Alex Bennee wrote:

>Although its enabled evolution never picks up any mis-spelled words. I
>suspect its something to do with the fact no dictionaries are selectable
>in the preferences dialog.
>
>I have aspell-en installed but that doesn't seem to be enough.
>
>Any ideas?
>  
>
I don't know if this will help, but make sure that you've emerged ispell
and/or aspell.  I had aspell installed, but couldn't spell check in
another application because I needed ispell installed.

HTH.

Colleen
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[gentoo-user] xmms crashes

[C. Beamer]

Hi,

Up until the day before yesterday, xmms worked fine and I was able to
play audio files.

On the weekend, I updated the kernel following the instructions in the
"Kernel Upgrade Guide".  Everything went fine.  When I rebooted the
computer my kmix icon was "x'd" out, so I unmerged alsa-driver and
reinstalled it and then things were fine.  At this point, xmms still worked.

Then, I upgraded x11 and although xmms opens, it crashes whenever I try
to play an audio file.  I tried totally unmerging it and all it's
dependencies, but that didn't work.

I've tried looking on the forums and in the bug list, but can't see
anything that appears the same.

Any ideas?

Take care,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] xmms crashes

[C. Beamer]

Thanks for the response, but . :-)

Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

>Hi,
>try removing the config and menurc in ~/.xmms,
>  
>
Actually, I removed the whole ~/.xmms directory after the fresh install.

>Did you use any visual plugins?
>  
>
I have the blursk and blur-scope plugins installed, but they are disabled.

I don't know if this means anything, but I did notice a message when
xmms and its dependencies were installing - something about that I
should run aclocal.

I tried running aclocal and I got this message:

aclocal-1.9: `configure.ac' or `configure.in' is required

I'm at a loss as to what this means.

I *do* have a 'configure.ac' in the /usr/share/libtool/libltdl/ directory.

Take care,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] xmms crashes - solved

[C. Beamer]

Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

>Hi,
>try removing the config and menurc in ~/.xmms,
>Did you use any visual plugins?
>Because this are a little brittle and break easily after any upgrade.

Just though I'd let the list know, I've solved the problem.  Seems
that xmms didn't like mikmod.  When I installed modplugxmms, it worked
fine.

Take care.

Colleen

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[gentoo-user] gcc Upgrade Problem

[C. Beamer]

Hi all,

I was upgrading gcc using the directions in the GCC Upgrade Guide.  All
was going well.  I was user what the Guide refers to as the "safer"
method.  I got to the 321 of 642 mark and the upgrade bombed.

The specific upgrade being done was cyrus-sasl.  Early in the output it
complained about both "gdbm" and "berkdb" USE flags being set.   Then, a
message was displayed that it would be best to build this package with
berkdb and told me how to set this in my "package.use" file.  The build
waited 10 seconds and then proceeded. This occurred overnight, so I'm
just finding this out.

Immediately after waiting the 10 seconds for a response to the db issue,
the build process displayed this message:

* If you are still using postfix->sasl->saslauthd->pam->mysql for
* authentication, please edit /etc/conf.d/saslauthd to read:
* SASLAUTHD_OPTS="${SASLAUTH_MECH} -a pam -r"
* Don't forget to restart the service: `/etc/init.d/saslauthd restart`.

I'm not exactly sure what this means.  I do have mysql on my system and
have to provide a password when I use the database associated with it,
but beyond that, I don't know if I should be doing what this message is
telling me or not.  Assistance here would be appreciated.

Again, a pause for 10 seconds occurred while waiting for a response, but
since I was asleep and didn't give one, the build went ahead.

The configure process completed and the make started.

The last few lines before the make process bombed and the first couple
of lines of the error message are as follows:

ar cru .libs/libsasldb.a db_gdbm.o allockey.o
ar: allockey.o: No such file or directorymake[2]: *** [libsasldb.a] Error 1
make[2]: *** [libsasldb.a] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/cyrus-sasl-2.1.20/work/cyrus-sasl-2.1.20/sasldb'

If I am interpreting this correctly, it the configure and build went
ahead using gdbm rather than berkdb and the correction would be to edit
my package.use file as previously indicated and rebuild.

However, my issue is that since I was at the 321/642 point of doing the
'emerge -e' world' portion of the upgrade, I don't know how to rectify
the problems and continue with the upgrade.  Or do I have to start from
scratch with the 'emerge -e world'?

Can someone offer some guidance here?

I apologize for the length of this, but wanted to make sure that I
included all the details that might be relevant.

Regards,

Colleen



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[gentoo-user] amaroK issue

[C. Beamer]

Hi all,

I've finished rebuilding my system after upgrading gcc.  I had to fix a
couple of things, but everything is working fine except amaroK.  amaroK
will start and as normal, put its icon in the system tray, but if I
hover the mouse over the icon, I get a "timer" displayed, which remains
there and I can't start the program.

I just discovered that kde-base/artsplugin-akode is masked and ergo, did
not get installed on my system.  Does anyone know if this is what might
be causing the problem that I'm having?

If not, does anyone have any other suggestions?

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange ALSA issue

[C. Beamer]

Hi,

I'm certainly not an authority here, but I suffered some minor pains
getting alsa to work after upgrading gcc.  I referred to the Alsa Gentoo
Linux Guide.

Marc Morrisette wrote:

> I just got done following the GCC migration guide on 3 computers.  It
> went smoothly on 2 of them, everything works fine, but on the third,
> after I recompiled the kernel, alsa-driver won't compile.  I'm using
> vanilla-sources 2.6.14.2 , the kernel options are all
> identical to what they were before I did the GCC migration.  It's
> getting stuck very early in the ALSA compile:
>
> In file included from
> /var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.10_rc3/work/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc3/include/adriver.h:765,
>
> from
> /var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.10_rc3/work/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc3/acore/sgbuf.c:13:
>
> include/linux/pci.h:392: error: parse error before numeric constant
> make[4]: ***
> [/var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.10_rc3/work/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc3/acore/sgbuf.o]
> Error 1
> make[3]: ***
> [/var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.10_rc3/work/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc3/acore]
> Error 2
> make[2]: ***
> [_module_/var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.10_rc3/work/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc3]
> Error 2
> make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.14.2 '
> make: *** [compile] Error 2
>
> !!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.10_rc3 failed.
> !!! Function src_compile, Line 96, Exitcode 2
> !!! Make Failed
> !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status
> message.

>From this, it looks like you are trying to install alsa-driver and
according to the guide, if you install the driver, you do not compile
alsa with the kernel.  At least that's what worked for me.

I selected to compile sound into the kernel and then emerged alsa driver
and followed the remaining steps in the Guide and alsa works fine.

HTH.

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] amaroK issue

[C. Beamer]

Richard Fish wrote:

>On 12/6/05, Andrew Gaydenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>Colleen,
>>
>>I have found a xine engine as the most stable for me.
>>
>>
>
>Seconded.
>
>-Richard
>  
>

Thanks to both Andrew and Richard for the response.  I struggled with
this until today.  I *did* try to take your advice, but amaroK still
hung after selecting to change the engine.

The "cure" was that I emerged a newer version masked version of amaroK
and that did the trick.  And guess what?  In version 1.3.6 of amaroK,
the engine defaulted to xine!

Again, thanks.

Regards,

Colleen

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[gentoo-user] Laptop Install Issue

[C. Beamer]

Hi all,

I've become so enamoured with Gentoo that I've decided to install on my
laptop.  However, I'm having a bit of a problem.

I'm at the point where I can boot the system and I've been trying to
install xorg-x11.  However, the laptop keeps powering off on me.

This wasn't a problem until I build the kernel where I built acpi
support into it.  However, I *didn't* read the ACPI Guide and obviously,
should have.  That's no big problem, I'll just recompile the kernel and
follow what the Guide says.

My issue is this:  The computer powered off in the middle of the install
of xorg-x11.  This has happened a couple of times.  I haven't been
having problems with the laptop, so I'm pretty sure the issue has
something to do with power management since I built power management
into the kernel, but didn't emerge acpid.  Anyway, since the emerge of
xorg-x11 has bombed a couple of times, is there anything that I should
do in the way of clean up before trying to emerge it again?

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Install Issue

[C. Beamer]

Allan Gottlieb wrote:

>At Sun, 11 Dec 2005 10:42:13 +0000 "C. Beamer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I'm at the point where I can boot the system and I've been trying to
>>install xorg-x11.  However, the laptop keeps powering off on me.
>>
>>This wasn't a problem until I build the kernel where I built acpi
>>support into it.  However, I *didn't* read the ACPI Guide and obviously,
>>should have.  That's no big problem, I'll just recompile the kernel and
>>follow what the Guide says.
>>
>>
>
>Had you built xorg-x11 when the kernel didn't have acpi support?
>I ask because a long build could be raising the temperature of your
>laptop and it is shutting off to save itself from frying.
>
>I have had dell service replace motherboards on two laptops because of
>this problem.
>

Actually, my laptop is a Dell.  To answer your question, I had build
acpi into the kernel prior to trying to emerge xorg-x11.  However, I
didn't change any of the default selections that were there when I ran
genkernel --menuconfig all.  The think I didn't do was emerge acpid and
adjust the settings as per the instructions in the ACPI Guide.  I'm
going to try this now to see if that fixes the problem.

Another thing, there was a choice to build Dell laptop support into the
kernel and I selected this.  Hopefully, that isn't 'causing anything
"quirky".

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Install Issue & update

[C. Beamer]

Devon Miller wrote:

> Do you have CONFIG_CPU_FREQ defined in your kernel config?
>
> I have an HP laptop where I have seen similar behavior. After dealing
> with it for some time, I tracked it down to a problem with changing
> the cpu's frequency. For a very small period after the clock is
> changed, the thermal sensor reads back nonsense. I've seen readings
> like "69... 69... 95... 70..." and that's with 0.5 second sampling.
> I've found 2 workarounds:
>
> 1) The quick and easy way:
>/etc/init.d/powernowd stop
>Now, build x.org 
>/etc/init.d/powernowd start
>
>Of course you'll need to replace powernowd with what ever power
> management daemon you have emerged.
>
> 2) The uglier, but potentially more useful fix:

I haven't tried your suggestions yet.

At first, I didn't think this could be a heating issue.  The reason for
this was twofold.  First, I hadn't explicitly followed the instructions
in the ACPI Guide, so I figured that because of this maybe it was
causing some "wonky" behaviour.  Second, I had the laptop into Dell 6
months ago and they did extensive diagnostics and ultimately replaced
the fan.

However, I changed my thoughs after reading some of the replies in this
thread, most of the unified assumption that it *was* a heating issue. 
Also, when I was doing the original install of the Gentoo base system, I
selected to have ACPI built into the kernel, but didn't change any of
the defaults that were selected in genkernel.  Hence, I was trying to
rebuild prior to following the remaining instructions in the ACPI Guide
and the laptop shutdown in the middle of the kernel build.  Luckiy, on
reboot, it defaulted to the good kernel build.

Anyway, because of this, I gave up last night.  I guess when I initially
tried to build xorg-x11 and it bombed, I never let the laptop properly
cool down.  I retried tonight and successfully got the new kernel to
build and am now creating the scripts as directed in the ACPI Guide.

Once I've done this, I will try again with building xorg-x11 and will
try the above suggestions.

Thanks to all who replied to this.  I'm really hoping that I can get
Gentoo installed on my laptop.  For me, after trying Gentoo, everything
else pales in comparison!

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Install Issue - Success!

[C. Beamer]

Mariusz Pękala wrote:

>>El Domingo, 11 de Diciembre de 2005 11:42, C. Beamer escribió:
>>
>>
>>>My issue is this:  The computer powered off in the middle of the install
>>>of xorg-x11.  This has happened a couple of times.  I haven't been
>>>having problems with the laptop, so I'm pretty sure the issue has
>>>something to do with power management since I built power management
>>>into the kernel, but didn't emerge acpid.
>>>  
>>>
>
>  
>
>>On 2005-12-11 17:32:46 +0100 (Sun, Dec), Rafael Fernández López wrote:
>>I can't find any sense at that issue: I can't understand what's the reason 
>>that make your computer turn off in a compilation.
>>
>>Well... I'm afraid of temperature. I hope that's not the reason, but is the 
>>first thing that came to my mind. Maybe in your laptop (I've an Amilo Fujitsu 
>>Siemens, and when compiling OO or KDE it is really hot), when it reachs some 
>>temperature it turns off because of security reasons.
>>
>>I cannot find any other reason.
>>
>>
>
>I vote for temperature issues too. That is my experience with some
>Aristo laptop - it get very hot very easily and powers off when
>temperature exceeds 85 C.
>
As it turned out, it *was* a temperature issue. But it was also an acpi
issue which was my fault and my stupidity for not reading the Gentoo
ACPI Guide.

Once I recompiled the kernel and set up ACPI with the scripts as
outlined in the Guide, I was able to emerge xorg-x11 no problem. The
laptop got warm, but nowhere near hot! :-)

The more I deal with Gentoo, the more I realize that the Gentoo
documentation is an invaluable resource and there can't be enough said
about it! :-)

Thanks again to all who responded to this thread.

Regards,

Colleen
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[gentoo-user] Problem after emerge --update --deep world

[C. Beamer]

Hi all,

This issue is related to my desktop.  Bear with me while I give some
background details.

A couple of months ago, I followed the MySQL Upgrade Guide to upgrade
MySQL.  At that time, some configuration files were changed.  I don't
know specifically if those changes had anything to do with a problem
that developed.  The problem was that when I logged out of KDE and chose
to either restart or shutdown the computer, neither of these occurred. 
The monitor would shut off, but not the computer.

A week or so ago, I did the gcc upgrade using the GCC Upgrade Guide and
much to my pleasure, the problem of not being able to reboot or shutdown
when I selected those choices from the menu on KDE logout disappeared.

On Sunday, I started an 'emerge --update --deep world'.  A number of kde
3.4.3 packages were pulled in (I orginally emerged kde-meta).  The
update went fine.  At the end, I ran etc-update and 4 configuration
files related to kde were updated.  The files were:  klipperrc,
ksslcalist, kdmrc, and libkleopatrarc.

Now, after the update, I again cannot reboot or shutdown when I select
either of the choices from the menu on KDE logout.

I figured that kdmrc, might be a logical file to be causing the problem
and I *did* find a "Shutdown" section in this file with the lines
related to shutdown and reboot commented out.  I removed the '#' and
used the suggested defaults - /sbin/halt and /sbin/reboot.  Well, this
didn't solve the problem, so I tried editing the related lines to
/etc/init.d/shutdown.sh and /etc/init.d/reboot.sh.  This didn't solve
the problem either.

So, in a nutshell, I still cannot shutdown or reboot when I select these
from the menu on KDE logout.

Any ideas here?

Regards,

Colleen
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[gentoo-user] Removing Specific Kernel Sources

[C. Beamer]

Hi all,

>From all I've ever read and about Linux and the kernel, it has always
been recommended that you keep one kernel source older than the one that
you are currently running on your system.

In this respect, I now have 3 kernel sources on my computer after
upgrading today.

I would like to remove the oldest one - specifically linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r10

The Kernel Upgrade Guide tells you how to remove the old sources using
emerge -P.  However, from what is stated in the manual, *all* old kernel
sources are removed.  The emerge man page says that a better option is
to use emerge --clean.  However, I haven't been able to figure out how
to remove a specific source tree.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Regards,

Colleen

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[gentoo-user] Minor Startup Issue

[C. Beamer]

Hi all,

You'll probably think this is dumb, but what can I say?  I'm a bit anal
is some respects!  :-)

Today, I updated my desktop system and recompiled a new kernel. 
Afterwards I re-emerged alsa-driver and ati-drivers.

The update solved an issue with not being able to turn off or reboot the
computer when I selected either from the menu on KDE logout.  Everything
is working fine once KDE is launched.

When I recompiled the kernel, I decided to trim it down some.  I use
genkernel and mostly have left all the defaults in there except for the
pertinent parts for the alsa-driver and ati-drivers as outlined in the
associated Gentoo Guides.  However, since this is a desktop machine, I
figured it was safe to remove stuff associated with laptops, so that's
what I did.

Anyway, the problem is not that things aren't working.  It's that
something is happening differently and it's driving me nuts.

Up until now, when the computer boots and goes through its startup
routine, the screen will "blip" and then the text that is scrolling by
on the screen prior to starting the gui interface, reduces in size. 
Now, the screen still does a slight "blip", but  the screen font remains
the same size as it was prior to the "blip".

I have no idea how to fix this behaviour.  If someone knows and can
provide direction, I would appreciate it.

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Removing Specific Kernel Sources

[C. Beamer]

Thanks,

Myk Taylor wrote:

> emerge -C gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10
> or
> emerge -C =gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10
>
> -C is short for --unmerge

This did what I wanted it to do.  I had the command right, I was just
using the wrong name - I used linux-sources.  What can I say ... I'm
still learning!  :-)

This also helped me get rid of a kernel source that had installed when I
did an 'emerge --update --deep world' shortly after starting to use
Gentoo, but I never did the actual upgrade.

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Minor Startup Issue

[C. Beamer]

Richard Fish wrote:

>On 12/17/05, C. Beamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>Up until now, when the computer boots and goes through its startup
>>routine, the screen will "blip" and then the text that is scrolling by
>>on the screen prior to starting the gui interface, reduces in size.
>>Now, the screen still does a slight "blip", but  the screen font remains
>>the same size as it was prior to the "blip".
>>
>>
>
>The 'blip' is usually when the framebuffer graphics driver turns on
>and changes the video mode.  Since you are not seeing any difference,
>either the framebuffer driver is failing, or you are now using just
>the plain vga driver instead of something more advanced (like
>vesafb-tng).
>
>Take a look at what you have under "Device Drivers->Graphics Support",
>the answer is probably in there.
>
I played with this for the better part of the afternoon.  Nothing
changed.  I *do* have vesafb-tng enabled.

This might be way out in left field, but I compared something between my
laptop, which works fine loading the framebuffer device running kernel
2.6.14-r4 and my desktop which I upgraded to kernel 2.6.14-r5.

Running menuconfig, the following lines show:

Device Drivers --->
Character Devices --->
  [*] Virtual terminal
  [*] Support for console on virtual terminal

There are no such lines in running menuconfig on my desktop.  The
difference *could* be laptop<-->desktop, but I thought I would ask.

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] data base program

[C. Beamer]

James Ausmus wrote:

>On 12/19/05, capsel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>Is there any program for makeing data bases as fast as ms access
>>(works fast, small) and free as openbase?
>>
>>
>
>I haven't used it much, just looked at it a time or two, but Rekall
>aims to be a MS Access work-alike replacement tool - it runs on top of
>a MySQL or Postgresql database - it just provides the "pretty" UI
>elements such as forms, reports, visually-designed queries, etc.
>  
>
You can also use Open Office Base, which is the data basing component of
Open Office.  I have it set up with an ODBC connection to a MySQL
database (because Open Office didn't have a database component until
recently).  You can use it to create forms (for example, to create a
list box from which to select values for certain fields) and edit the
database from within the form.  Any changes are saved in Open Office as
well as back to the MySQL database.

Gentoo has a MySQL startup guide if you have never used it:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/mysql-howto.xml

To set up the ODBC connection (note that this document was written prior
to Base being part of Open Office, but the methodology for setting up
the ODBC connection still applies - except that in Gentoo the odbc.ini
and odbcinst.ini are in /etc/unixODBC/ and the correct file name for the
library is /usr/libmyodbc3.so):

http://www.unixodbc.org/doc/OOoMySQL9.pdf

Regards,

Colleen



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RE: [gentoo-user] DHCPd start / stop problem

[C R. Little]

have you done a zap?

./dhcp stop
./dhcp zap
./dhcp start

?

-Original Message-
From: Michael Semcheski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 12:36 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] DHCPd start / stop problem


Mark Knecht wrote:
> Does /var/lib/init.d/started/dhcp exist after you attempt to stop the
> dhcp daemon? If so you might try

No, from what I can tell 'stop' works correctly, even if dhcpd was not
started via start-stop-daemon / the init script.

I can not see why start-stop-daemon thinks that dhcp is running.  There
is no pid file in /chroot/dhcp/var/run/dhcp/ or /var/run/dhcp or
/var/lib/init.d/started.

Totally perplexed,

Mike

>>If I do run /etc/init.d/dhcp restart, here's what I get (I turned off
>>--quiet in the start script):
>>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] init.d # ./dhcp stop
>> * ERROR:  "dhcp" has not yet been started.
>>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] init.d # ./dhcp restart
>> * Setting ownership on dhcpd.leases...   [ ok ]
>> * Starting chrooted dhcpd... /usr/sbin/dhcpd already running.[ !! ]
>>
>>But, if I 'kill -TERM' the process number from
>>/chroot/dhcp/var/run/dhcp/dhcpd.pid, it says there is No Such Process,
>>and the DHCPd server is not running.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Emerge PHP+ Apache

[C R. Little]

I use the package system for a lot just not everything. I'm beginning to use it 
for more stuff. I use to work in Redhat a lot so the package system was not the 
first thing I noticed in gentoo. I really like gentoo a lot, I'm trying to get 
more familiar with the workstation end of it, and at the the same time clean up 
the systems, remove the manually compiled programs and use the package system 
to make them more proficient. 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 2:33 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge PHP+ Apache


On Thu, 12 May 2005, C R. Little wrote:

> I've been messing with gentoo for around 2 years now and still have not 
> learned the full functionality of emerge.

Wow - one wonders why you picked Gentoo if not for the package system???


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RE: [gentoo-user] Terminal Client

[C R. Little]

emerge -s rdesktop

*  net-misc/grdesktop
  Latest version available: 0.22-r1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 418 kB
  Homepage:http://www.nongnu.org/grdesktop/
  Description: Gtk2 frontend for rdesktop
  License: GPL-2

*  net-misc/rdesktop
  Latest version available: 1.4.0-r1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 197 kB
  Homepage:http://rdesktop.sourceforge.net/
  Description: A Remote Desktop Protocol Client
  License: GPL-2



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To: Gentoo Users
Subject: [gentoo-user] Terminal Client


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I have a real need for a terminal client program for gentoo that will
allow me to connect to a Windows machine.  I know Mandrake (Mandriva)
has one which works very nicely, but I would really like to be able
to use gentoo.
Can anybody tell me what I can use for this and where I can find it.

Thanks,
Mike
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[gentoo-user] Problem Booting

[C R. Little]

I have installed Gentoo to a dual had drive system

/dev/hda1 --> Windows XP Professional

/dev/sda --> Gentoo Install
/dev/sda1 - /boot
/dev/sda3 - /
/dev/sda5 - /usr
/dev/sda6 - /var
/dev/sda7 - /tmp
/dev/sda8 - /home

grub.conf kernel line:
root(hd1,0)
kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r8 root /dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/sda3 init=linuxrc 
vga=0x318 splash=verbose

The liveCD boots and runs. 

when I try to boot the system from grub to the gentoo selection I get 

>>Loading Modules...
>> Mounting Filesystems...
>> Activating udev
>> Determining Root device
block device /dev/sda3 is not a valid root device...

The SDA Device is a Maxtor SATA Drive, I think it's not loading ata_piix which 
the live CD loads. Is this a module or built into the kernel?
I did used genkernel to create my kernel.

Please help

Thanks.
CR Little

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RE: [gentoo-user] Problem Booting

[C R. Little]

Here's my grub.conf

default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd1,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.11-r8
root (hd1,2)
kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/dev/sda3 
init=/linuxrc ramdisk_size=8192 vga=0x318 splash=verbose udev
initrd /initrd-2.6.11-gentoo-r8

title=Windows XP Professional
root (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1


-Original Message-
From: Stanczak Group [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 6:53 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem Booting


Looks like you need you initrd added to grub.

C R. Little wrote:

>I have installed Gentoo to a dual had drive system
>
>/dev/hda1 --> Windows XP Professional
>
>/dev/sda --> Gentoo Install
>/dev/sda1 - /boot
>/dev/sda3 - /
>/dev/sda5 - /usr
>/dev/sda6 - /var
>/dev/sda7 - /tmp
>/dev/sda8 - /home
>
>grub.conf kernel line:
>root(hd1,0)
>kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r8 root /dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/sda3 
>init=linuxrc vga=0x318 splash=verbose
>
>The liveCD boots and runs. 
>
>when I try to boot the system from grub to the gentoo selection I get 
>
>  
>
>>>Loading Modules...
>>>Mounting Filesystems...
>>>Activating udev
>>>Determining Root device
>>>  
>>>
>block device /dev/sda3 is not a valid root device...
>
>The SDA Device is a Maxtor SATA Drive, I think it's not loading ata_piix which 
>the live CD loads. Is this a module or built into the kernel?
>I did used genkernel to create my kernel.
>
>Please help
>
>Thanks.
>CR Little
>
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RE: [gentoo-user] Problem Booting

[C R. Little]

UPDATE I sent the wrong grub.conf file the right one is below:


default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd1,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.11-r8
root (hd1,0)
kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/sda3 
init=/linuxrc ramdisk_size=8192 vga=0x318 splash=verbose udev
initrd /initrd-2.6.11-gentoo-r8

title=Windows XP Professional
root (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1



-Original Message-
From: askar ... [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 11:55 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem Booting


> grub.conf kernel line:
> root(hd1,0)
> kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r8 root /dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/sda3 
> init=linuxrc vga=0x318 splash=verbose
> 
It seems you used genkernel. 
If I follow the gentoo installlation handbook, I could write like:
--
root (hd1,0)
kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc
ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/sda3 udev
initrd /initrd-2.6.11-gentoo-r8
--
I'm not sure, but try this.

sincerely,
askar

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[gentoo-user] SATA Boot problem-please help

[C R. Little]

Title: SATA Boot problem-please help






grub.conf-


default 0

timeout 30

splashimage=(hd1,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz


title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.11-r8

root (hd1,0)

kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk_size=8192 vga=0x318 splash=verbose udev

initrd /initrd-2.6.11-gentoo-r8


title=Windows XP Professional

root (hd0,0)

makeactive

chainloader +1


I have installed Gentoo to a dual had drive system


/dev/hda1 --> Windows XP Professional


/dev/sda --> Gentoo Install

/dev/sda1 - /boot

/dev/sda3 - /

/dev/sda5 - /usr

/dev/sda6 - /var

/dev/sda7 - /tmp

/dev/sda8 - /home


The liveCD boots and runs. 


when I try to boot the system from grub to the gentoo selection I get 


>> Loading Modules...(Several SATA Messages)

>> Mounting Filesystems...

>> Activating udev

>> Determining Root device

>> The root block Device is unspecified or not detected. Please specify a device to boot or "shell" for a shell.


The SDA Device is a Maxtor SATA Drive, I think it's not loading ata_piix which the live CD loads. Is this a module or built into the kernel?

I recomplied the kernel so that the Intel PiiX driver was complied in the kernel not as a module.


It's got a lot of STA messages und

I did used genkernel to create my kernel.

RE: [gentoo-user] SATA Boot problem-please help

[C R. Little]

That didn't seem to work either. I tried (hd1,3) which should be / but that 
didn't work either

-Original Message-
From: Peter Ruskin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:50 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] SATA Boot problem-please help


On Monday 16 May 2005 16:19, C R. Little wrote:
> title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.11-r8
> root (hd1,0)
--
You could try changing this to root (hd1,1)
> kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc
> ramdisk_size=8192 vga=0x318 splash=verbose udev initrd
> /initrd-2.6.11-gentoo-r8
>
> title=Windows XP Professional
> root (hd0,0)
> makeactive
> chainloader +1
>
> I have installed Gentoo to a dual had drive system
>
> /dev/hda1 --> Windows XP Professional
>
> /dev/sda --> Gentoo Install
> /dev/sda1 - /boot
> /dev/sda3 - /

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RE: [gentoo-user] SATA Boot problem-please help

[C R. Little]

kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r8 is located on /boot whis /dev/sda1. Which would be 
(hd1,0) for the second Hard drive the first partition. I don't think the 
problem is with grub because it will boot just can't find the root partition. 
which should be /dev/sda3. For some reason I don't think the kernel is loading 
the right drivers for the SATA controller. The LiveCD uses Intel PiiX. which I 
compiled into the kernel. I've found several google groups refering to this 
problem as of yet I haven't found anything on SATA drives, it's been all scsi, 
I'm using SATA not SCSI
I

-Original Message-
From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 11:16 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] SATA Boot problem-please help


On Mon, May 16, 2005 4:58 pm, C R. Little said:
> That didn't seem to work either. I tried (hd1,3) which should be / but
> that didn't work either

Go into the GRUB shell and type

find /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r8

to see which GRUB device contains your /boot partition.

looking at your setup, I would have expected it to be (hd1,0), unless the
SATA drive is detected first, in which case it would be (hd0,0).



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RE: [gentoo-user] mod_clamav

[C R. Little]

I'm not sure if it's in portage but I know you can install it though cpan

-Original Message-
From: Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 7:16 AM
To: Gentoo-user
Subject: [gentoo-user] mod_clamav


Hi,

I was reading in Sys Admin a article about email content filtering and there 
was a configuration with mod_clamav for scanning of html contains.
I'm unable to find mod_clamav in the portage (possible i din't look good) is it 
under a different name, or do i have to install it from "source", or just wait 
a bit because the ebuild is almost done?

TIA
Patrick
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RE: [gentoo-user] SATA Boot problem-please help

[C R. Little]

I recomplied all intel and promise modules into the kernel and it loads the 
drivers on boot. But to fix the problem completely. I changed root=/dev/ram0 to 
root=/dev/sda3 and removed real_root=/dev/sda3.

what is is the root=/dev/ram0 for? Is it needed?




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From: Andrew Potter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 4:10 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] SATA Boot problem-please help


C R. Little wrote:

>For some reason I don't think the kernel is loading the right drivers for the 
>SATA controller. 
>
I had this problem with my laptop. Compile all the promise and all
theintel device modules into your kernel (Not as modules). Reboot and it
should pick it up. Then start removing modules 1 at a time from the
kernel, recompiling, reboot, etc, until you figure out which one it is
you need. For me it was the Promise TX2/4. I think. Also, SATA driver
support is evolving, so be sure to have the latest kernel available.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Install from Hell, now it's bash-2.05b

[C R. Little]

Why not use the CFLAGS="-march=pentium2 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" flag? 
and try to remerge

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From: Walter Dnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 12:12 PM
To: Gentoo Users List
Subject: [gentoo-user] Install from Hell, now it's bash-2.05b


  I'm trying to do a stage 1 install on an old 400 mhz PII with 128 megs
of RAM for use as an experimental server.  Compile options are sane...
-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -mmmx -pipe
I'm having extreme problems getting past...  "emerge --emptytree system"
at chapter 6.d of the online install docs at
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1 and will
probably attempt a stage 3 install next time, just to bypass it, unless
somebody can come up with a quick-n-dirty solution to my problems soon.

  First it was blowing up at ncurses.  I tried several times, masking
and unmasking in order to try both regular versions of ncurses and the
~x86 version.  They all blew up at the same point.  I blew that install
away, and started over.  This time around "emerge --emptytree system"
blows up at bash-2.05b.  I didn't see anything on bugzilla that looked
relevant.  Here's the error stuff, with my comments flagged "<<<<<<<"

i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DSHELL   -I. 
-I/var/tmp/portage/bash-2.05b-r9/work/bash-2.05b -I../.. -I../../lib  -O2 
-march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -mmmx -pipe -DREADLINE_LIBRARY -c ./tilde.c
rm -f xmalloc.o
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DSHELL   -I. 
-I/var/tmp/portage/bash-2.05b-r9/work/bash-2.05b -I../.. -I../../lib  -O2 
-march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -mmmx -pipe xmalloc.c
rm -f xmalloc.o <<<<<<< note this command
rm -f libhistory.a
ar cr libhistory.a history.o histexpand.o histfile.o histsearch.o shell.o 
savestring.o mbutil.o xmalloc.o
ar: xmalloc.o: No such file or directory <<<<<<< Doh
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DSHELL   -I. 
-I/var/tmp/portage/bash-2.05b-r9/work/bash-2.05b -I../.. -I../../lib  -O2 
-march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -mmmx -pipe xmalloc.c
make[1]: *** [libhistory.a] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/bash-2.05b-r9/work/bash-2.05b/lib/readline'
make: *** [lib/readline/libhistory.a] Error 1
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
rm -f compat.o
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DSHELL   -I. 
-I/var/tmp/portage/bash-2.05b-r9/work/bash-2.05b -I../.. -I../../lib  -O2 
-march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -mmmx -pipe compat.c
rm -f libreadline.a
ar cr libreadline.a readline.o vi_mode.o funmap.o keymaps.o parens.o search.o 
rltty.o complete.o bind.o isearch.o display.o signals.o util.o kill.o undo.o 
macro.o input.o callback.o terminal.o text.o nls.o misc.o history.o 
histexpand.o histfile.o histsearch.o shell.o savestring.o mbutil.o tilde.o 
xmalloc.o compat.o
test -n "i686-pc-linux-gnu-ranlib" && i686-pc-linux-gnu-ranlib libreadline.a
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/bash-2.05b-r9/work/bash-2.05b/lib/readline'

!!! ERROR: app-shells/bash-2.05b-r9 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 99, Exitcode 2
!!! make failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.

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[gentoo-user] ipw2200

[C R. Little]

How do I emerge the ~x86 version of the ipw2200 package? with out installing 
all of the ~x86 packages.

I do.
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -Dupv ipw2220 and it wants to recompile almost 
every package.

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RE: [gentoo-user] ipw2200-IGNORE FOUND PAGE TO FIX

[C R. Little]

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=1060314#1060314

-Original Message-
From: C R. Little 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 12:30 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] ipw2200


How do I emerge the ~x86 version of the ipw2200 package? with out installing 
all of the ~x86 packages.

I do.
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -Dupv ipw2220 and it wants to recompile almost 
every package.

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[gentoo-user] wine

[C R. Little]

I'm setting up my very first install of wine. I'm a bit confused on which one 
to emerge I would like to use Office 2003 Professional and have the ability to 
run games like world of warcraft. Just more "newbie" questions from me.
Thanks for the help with everything.

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RE: [gentoo-user] wine

[C R. Little]

Thanks holly.

-Original Message-
From: A. R. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:16 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] wine


That was a great post Holly,

very informative,

I also run wine (every day at work) because I need to run Lotus Notes.
And I was wondering about games under wine as well.

Thank you very much.


- AR

On 5/24/05, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
> > Thank you for the explanation.  That clears it up.  I don't  play the Doom 
> > series either - I have Soldier of Fortune and Half-LIfe along with some 
> > others.  And I have an Nvidia card .
> >
> Yes, well, I hate you :) . But it is important to mention on behalf of
> any other idio-- umm, unfortunate ATI users-- like myself, that our
> regrettable choice of video card also has an effect on the situation.
> 
> But as to the original question, here are some important resources:
> 
> The Wine application database at http://appdb.winehq.org
> 
> This resource is not well-maintained atm, but it's trying to come back,
> so if you are a Wine user, please register, log in, and update
> application information, or even apply to maintain an application so
> that the developers can easily see if an app regressed after a monthly
> release.
> 
> Wine now also has a Wiki at http://wiki.winehq.org/FrontPage, and the
> "user wiki" is at http://wine-wiki.org/ .
> 
> Naturally, this also needs user support to survive, so any Wine users
> might consider contributing.
> 
> The Transgaming games database at http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/ .
> 
> These resources require you to be a TG subscriber to contribute, but
> anyone can read the data already provided. It's also not that
> well-maintained (a lot of listed games don't have any info because no
> one has tested them yet), but it is at least a place to start. TG also
> has a Wiki, and if the game in question has an entry there, it is linked
> in the gamesdb, so that's nice.
> 
> Codeweavers (Crossover Office) also has an application database at
> 
> http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/ .
> 
> But I must say, in my experience with the CX demo, they hardly need
> one-- only one "unsupported" app that I threw at it did not run
> (CloneCD; but it installed fine)-- and that just doesn't run under
> Linux, period, afaict.  I've found Crossover to be really great, pretty
> easy to use, looks like a real program, and if it ran games instead of
> only applications that I have no use for (such as Office and Access and
> the like), I would buy it in a minute. In fact, I'm almost sorry that I
> have no use for it, because it's the kind of thing I *want* to buy, just
> to show my support for how good it is.
> 
> So for the applications that the OP wants to run (namely Office), I
> would recommend it, but if the OP doesn't want to spend any money, I
> would recommend Wine with WineTools:
> 
> http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/
> 
> which should make it easier to get Office installed and running if you
> really must have it.
> 
> However, WineTools vastly prefers the "last stable for Office" Wine
> version, which is considered by the developer to be 20041019 (which is
> still available in Portage). However, the developer does welcome
> information on any further applications that users successfully install
> and run with WineTools, so they can be included in the supported list,
> which can be found at
> 
> http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/wt212jo.html
> 
> As you might have guessed, I'm a pretty big Wine-head, and follow
> developments fairly closely. As such, on the whole I would say that no
> version or variant of Wine is (at this time, but that may be changing,
> as soon as within the next quarter) sufficient for all cases, unless you
> have very specific (and limited) needs.
> 
> If you don't play games, for example (or only simple ones not requiring
> DX support), then Crossover (or Wine and WineTools) is probably sufficient.
> 
> If you play games, but only older ones (I'm re-playing Deus Ex and
> Septerra Core atm), then Wine alone may be sufficient, but you may
> require more than one version (an installed binary and a compiled CVS,
> for example), as things have been known to break (regress) from month to
> month.
> 
> On the other hand, Wine can really surprise you sometimes with what runs
> "out of the box"-- on one of my "live on the edge" days, I installed In
> Memoriam (Missing: Since January in Europe), which is only a year and a
> half old, under either Wine 20050111 or 20050211. I didn't really expect
> it to work, especially since the game requires an Internet connection,
> both because you get a FreeWeb account (which enables a password to be
> sent to you so you can even play the game), and because it also contains
> a lot of embedded links in the puzzle graphics to get clues (it's a
> "pre-murder" mystery adventure game, and I was having Adventure Game
> Withdrawal Syndrome, wh

[gentoo-user] gcc upgrade

[C R. Little]

when upgrading to a new version of gcc is all you have to do is emerge the 
newer version and it works? the package has a S beside it so how does the 
system know which version to use?

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RE: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade

[C R. Little]

if you have a pentium-m processor is it better to upgrade to the newer version 
of gcc or stick with the stable release using the pentium-3 cflag?


-Original Message-
From: Julien Cayzac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 2:12 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade


On 5/26/05, C R. Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> when upgrading to a new version of gcc is all you have to do is emerge the 
> newer version and it works? the package has a S beside it so how does the 
> system know which version to use?

# emerge -u gcc
# gcc-config -l
# gcc-config 

and then, if you you want to use this new version in an already opened
terminal, do:
# env-update
# source /etc/profile

Julien.

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[gentoo-user] Installation problems on AMD64 box

[R C Mitchell]

I use Ubuntu for every day but as my box has a spare 40GB hard disk I decided 
to have a go at installing Gentoo on it for evaluation

Using the handbook documentation for AMD64 I burned a basic installation CD, 
booted it up, and followed the instructions for installation on the spare 
drive.  Everything went fine; I partitioned the disk with a 32MB ext2 sector 
for /boot, a 512MB swap sector, 10GB for root and the rest for /home.  I had 
no trouble with the network, successfully downloaded everything that needed 
to be downloaded and unpacked it, successfully chrooted to the new system, 
and reached the compiling the kernel section without a glitch.

And the then the trouble began.  I emerged gentoo-sources, and it ran fine for 
about five minutes, and then (choosing the moment when I decided all was well 
to go and make a pot of tea, the system rebooted itself.  I booted up the 
disk again and went through the chrooting process.  When I went to emerge 
gentoo-sources again, emerge looked for the dependencies and then the whole 
system froze solid with one of those "this is NOT our fault" kernel panic 
messages.

Not to worry.  I can be very patient on occasions.  I cold booted the box and 
started all over again, deleting the new partitions and going through the 
instructions from the beginning incase I'd missed anything.  Again I got to 
emerging gentoo-sources.  Again it ran for about five minutes before the 
system rebooted itself.  Again I went through the chrooting process and went 
to emerge gentoo-sources.  Again the system froze.  I rebooted and rechrooted 
and tried it again.  Same result.

I'm reluctant to believe that this is down to an arbitrary hardware fault, 
since everything else works fine.  It does seem to have something to do with 
emerging gentoo-sources.

Is anybody able to rescue this maiden in distress and throw some light on my 
problem?

Rosie


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Re: [gentoo-user] Installation problems on AMD64 box

[R C Mitchell]

On Friday 28 November 2008 11:56:52 Iain Buchanan wrote:
> ah, who says Ubuntu isn't good for anything?  Good to see you're trying
> a real distribution :) 

Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore...

> Typically now you'd prove me wrong and say how you've been using
>  for years... anyhoo welcome!

First tasted Slackware about 12 years ago.  Long before that I used to make 
VAXes sing and dance.  We'll draw a veil over the MVS/TSO/CICS years, except 
to say that I know bloated systems when I see them.

> >[snip excellent problem report]



> No offence, but I doubt an Ubuntu install would tax your resources as
> much as compiling your system as you have just done.

No, one can have it up and running in the time it takes to compile, say, 
Firefox from scratch.  Sometimes I like a quiet life.  Other times I like to 
live on the edge :)

> but girls don't exist on tha interwebz!

So it seems - look at all those pizza boxes and old beer cans all over the 
floor.

Rosie


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Re: [gentoo-user] Installation problems on AMD64 box

[R C Mitchell]

On Friday 28 November 2008 12:55:06 Andrea Momesso wrote:
> An easy way to find out if this is a gentoo related problem is to
> avoid using the livecd.
> You can easily chroot into the gentoo drive from your ubuntu
> installation and try to emerge
> gentoo-sources from there.

Ok, I've done this.  gentoo-sources emerged without any problems.  I've set it 
compiling a genkernel (if I am convinced by what I get when it's all working, 
I'll try compiling a custom kernel.  It's currently running without mishap.

> If you still get a failure you can be almost sure this is an hardware
> problem.

I haven't had a problem yet so I can't say anything.

I'm going out for a couple of hours later so I'll run a  memtest while I'm 
gone.

Rosie

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installation problems on AMD64 box

[R C Mitchell]

On Friday 28 November 2008 12:29:23 Florian Philipp wrote:
> By the way: Can you post some parameters of your system (CPU, age, ...)
> and tell us, whether you use 64bit or 32bit versions of Ubuntu and Gentoo?

I had the box built for me a year ago.  

Processor is ADM Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ (two of them)
I'm running 64-bit Ubuntu on the main disk and attempting to install ADM64 
2008.0 Gentoo

PCI listing:

00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge
00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge
00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge
00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge
00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge
00:00.5 PIC: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE I/O APIC Interrupt Controller
00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI bridge [K8T800/K8T890 
South]
00:02.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T890 PCI to PCI Bridge Controller
00:03.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T890 PCI to PCI Bridge Controller
00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A SATA 2-Port Controller 
(rev 80)
00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 07)
00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev a0)
00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev a0)
00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev a0)
00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev a0)
00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A PCI to ISA Bridge
00:11.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8251 Ultra VLINK Controller
00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 7c)
00:13.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A Host Bridge
00:13.1 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A PCI to PCI Bridge
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM 
Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
Miscellaneous Control
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS (rev a1)
80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio 
Controller (rev 10)

Anything else?

Rosie

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT vm WinXp] Can WinXp be Vm app from gentoo?

[C Lee Davis]

Daevid Vincent wrote:
> Why does everyone always assume people are pirates or in search of
> warez. I don't see why someone couldn't put up a copy of XP or Vista or
> whatever that is unactivated, yet all installed and ready to go
> (everything but the CPU is emulated in VMWare, so it could be possible,
> and even the XP CPU is a generic x86 compatible, not like it's optimized
> AFAIK). Then one could just plop in their key to activate it for reals
> to get "WGA certifed".
> 
Because, as far as I can tell (and IANAL), that would be illegal.  I don't have
a license to distribute Windows XP.

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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

[C Lee Davis]

Aggelos wrote:

www.glumbert.com/media/dolphin

www.petitiononline.com/golfinho


It's messages like this that remind me my mailer has rules.  Consider yourself 
killfiled.  I'm here for Gentoo, not dolphins.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Compiz keeps putting titlebars under gnome-panel

[C Lee Davis]

Mark David Dumlao wrote:

I have a button on my desktop that runs compiz-start if compiz is off and
metacity --replace if compiz is off.  I'm having fun playing wtih this 
thing

except one annoying feature is when I switch from metacity to compiz all
existing windows are bumped up by one titlebar's worth.  this means that 
all

windows that are maximized or at the top will have their titlebars undder
the gnome-panel.

I had this problem as well.  I ended up fixing it by removing 
/home//.gconf/apps/compiz, restarting X without compiz, and making sure 
decoration was in my active_plugins before starting compiz again.  I'm not sure 
what part fixed it, but it hasn't reappeared.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Xserver on Dell Inspiron M1710

[C Lee Davis]

Colleen Beamer wrote:
> Does anyone have a Dell Inspiron M1710 and will let me take a look at
> their xorg.conf file?
> 
This is from my XPS M1710; I'm not sure how similar they are, but I hope it 
helps.

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load  "glx"
Load  "extmod"
Load  "xtrap"
Load  "record"
Load  "dbe"
Load  "dri"
Load  "freetype"
Load  "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "auto"
Option  "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName"Monitor Model"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor1"
VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName"Monitor Model"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Card0"
Driver  "nvidia"
VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
BoardName   "Unknown Board"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
Option  "NoLogo" "True"
Option  "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
Screen  0
Option  "TwinView"
Option  "MetaModes" "1920x1200 1280x1024,1920x1200"
Option  "TwinViewOrientation" "LeftOf"
Option  "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "UseEdidFreqs"
Option  "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "UseEdidFreqs"
Option  "AddARGBGLXVisuals"
Option  "NvAGP" "1"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
Option  "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "true"
EndSection


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell Inspiron M1710

[C Lee Davis]

Colleen Beamer wrote:
> I use genkernel and there is a screen resolution of something that says
> 1024x768 and I can't edit it.  I also don't know what my horizontal and
> vertical sync are because it's not in my documentation and when I used
> ddxcinfo-knoppix -hsync, it returns 0 0 and ddcxinfo-knoppix -modlines
> doesn't have a corresponding mode for my monitor - the resolution is
> 1920x1200.
> 
Coleen, I've had no luck getting the framebuffer console to recognize 16:9
aspect ratios.  My XPS M1710 boots up to a 1600x1200 console and then starts X
to go to full 1920x1200 resolution.

The relevant lines from my my kernel's .config:

CONFIG_FB_VESA=y
# CONFIG_FB_VESA_STD is not set
CONFIG_FB_VESA_TNG=y
CONFIG_FB_VESA_DEFAULT_MODE="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-2.16.3 - problems with the desktop not painting - no icons or wallpaper

[C Lee Davis]

Mark Knecht wrote:
>   I don't see anything very strange in top while the splash panel is
> up. Somewhere along the way the panel finishes waiting for whatever
> it's waiting for, I see a flashing dialog window that cannot be read,
> and then I have the desktop with nothing on it. Just the panel at the
> bottom.
> 
I got behavior like this recently when I updated libexif and failed to do a
revdep-rebuild... is that possible?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash Player / Firefox trouble

[Elaine C. Sharpe]

In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote:
>  gmx.de> writes:
>
>
>
>> got some problems here with the Flash Player Plugin and Firefox and
>> may other parts.
>
> Well, I was "noodling" around the net about video (VP8) and there
> seems to be a war brewing. As you know, Google is has open sourced
> VP8 as a replacement for H.264. It seems that the web browser
> groups each pay millions of dollars per year to be able to give
> away a browser that supports h.264 streaming video.
>
> h.264 is everywhere, cell phone apps, HDTV, utube, just to 
> name a few. Now Theora was based on an old codec (vp3) I believe.
> Google purchased the company that developed VP8 and purports
> it to replace h.264.
>
>
> Naturally MPLA (the stinking lawyers behind h.246) is upset
> because the financial rewards of the the patents behind h.264
> are worth an enormous sum of money, over the next few decades.
> VP8 is not threating that. If you saw my post on Nokia and Microsoft
> going down the darkside together (very strange), what I did not
> say is that Balmer is pushing the bussword "EcoSystem" composed
> of Xbox-live, Office and Bing.
>
> Google has that and more.   Apple has their own "EcoSystem".
>
> Many Browsers will be dropping support for h.264 in the near 
> future, and streaming video, at least in the short run,
> is now fair game and going to be not interoperable.
>
> Is this your problem? Maybe, maybe not. Drop back a version
> and see if it fixes your problem.
>
> Better still, one of the young (smart) kids on this list
> prolly (guesses?) knows all about this. If it is not your
> problem now, it surely will be *REAL SOON*; as it will
> become everybody's problem as the Economic Giants scratch
> out and protect their "video EcoSystems". Stock prices
> are more of a concern to these titans, than piss_ants
> consumuers (that's what they ALL really see in us). So
> do not be fool, Google is as big a whore as the rest, imho.
> Google has well intentioned folks, but to quote an old addage
> "Money talks and Bullshit walks"...
>
>
> hth,
> James

IME most video on the web can be viewed with mplayer, if you 
can get a link to the actual file. I often download flv files 
and use ffmpeg to reencode them as mp4. Works even for videos 
that the linux flashplayer can't handle.

I do wish netflix would go with something other than silverlight 
though, running win7 in vbox works but I shouldn't have to do all 
that...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash Player / Firefox trouble

[Elaine C. Sharpe]

In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Dale  wrote:
>> Mark Knecht wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Nikos Chantziaras
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 02/19/2011 11:08 PM, Elaine C. Sharpe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> I do wish netflix would go with something other than silverlight
>>>>> though, running win7 in vbox works but I shouldn't have to do all
>>>>> that...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't the Moonlight Firefox add-on work?
>>>>
>>>
>>> What I've read is that moonlight doesn't handle the Netflix DRM
>>> issues. Does anyone know differently?
>>>
>>> I'm still using a Window VM to watch Netflix.
>>>
>>> - Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I use Firefox and the download manager.  I just download the video and watch
>> it with (s)(k)(m)player locally.  That also gives me the option of saving
>> them locally and not having to download them again if I want to watch them
>> more than once.  I'm sure AT&T likes that part.
>>
>> So far, I have not had much trouble with doing it this way.  Other than the
>> video being lost when changing tabs.  Well, I did have on download that
>> failed and only go the first part of the video.  I think my DSL modem did
>> its reset thingy.  It does that once a day.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>
>>
>
> Where are you finding links on Netflix pages that allows you to start
> a movie download? I'm not finding that at all using Firefox. Are you
> digging into page source or something?
>
> - Mark

Pretty sure he wasn't referring to netflix.
AFAIK no-one has cracked the DRM on silverlight streams 
yet, and microsoft has no plans to update moonlight.
Ironic that the excuse is "pirates!" -- their restrictive
policy has me downloading things I wouldn't bother with
otherwise, so I suspect the effect is the opposite of
what they intend. Whoever thought, "if it's not available
they'll just have to do without" was truly not very bright.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone get Acer laptop internal microphone working in Gentoo?

[Elaine C. Sharpe]

In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:54:38PM +, Mick wrote
>
>> Ah ... mine have more.   in alsamixer brings up all these Capture 
>> devices:
>> 
>> Front Mic  67<>67
>> Mic67<>67
>> Capture80<>80
>> Capture80<>80
>> Digital61<>61
>> Digital33<>33
>> Input So   Digital Mic  (other options are: Front Mic, Mic)
>> Input So   Digital Mic  (other options are: Front Mic, Mic)
>> 
>> There's a microphone on the top of the screen and a jack on the
>> front left of the keyboard.
>
>   Another search on Goggle finally found something, but I'm not sure I
> like it.  My card shows up in "lspci -v" as...
>
> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
> Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device 0372
> Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 64, IRQ 16
> Memory at d040 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
> Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
> Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
>
> alsamixer shows...
> Card: HDA ATI SB
> Chip: Realtek ALC272X 
>
>   One solution I've seen involves modprobing the sound driver with a
> parameter.  Problem is I've been using kernel-mode alsa for years and
> I'm an absolute newbie on "alsa-driver".  alsa-driver is keyworded
> ~amd64 but I'm desparate enough to try it.  Maybe even desparate enough
> to try the other solution, namely revert to OSS.
>
>   If I want to keyword alsa-driver and install it, I assume that I have
> to remove all kernel support for sound, i.e in "make menuconfig"...
>
>< > Sound card support  --->
>
>   Is that correct?  

I don't think so. One of my machines is a mac mini with the 
intel HDA chipset, and I don't recall right now whether it 
was alsa-driver, alsa-firnmware, or both but I did get it 
working without disabling audio in the kernel.

>Also, what should I specify in ALSA_CARDS in
> /etc/make.conf ?
>

ALSA_CARDS="hda-intel"

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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?

[Elaine C. Sharpe]

In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote:
> Sebastian Beßler wrote:
>> Am 24.02.2011 13:32, schrieb Dale:
>>
>>> My world file is fine. I went through it a while back and it is fairly
>>> small. It's the system set that is larger than normal.
>>
>> Your system set has 50 entries, that seems to be absolutly normal.
>>
>> The high count of entries in emerge -e @system comes from USE-flags 
>> like kde (what we have shown in the other post) and probably one or 
>> more other USE-flags.
>>
>> To lower the number in emerge -e @system you have to look at your 
>> flags, one by one if nothing else helps. Or you could just ignore it, 
>> because all that is pulled in are dependencies of some sort and not in 
>> your @system.
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>> Sebastian Beßler
>>
>>
>
> And since I use KDE, it's not like I can disable the USE flag either.  I 
> may be able to disable or remove some others that are not needed or 
> outdated but still, kde would be there.
>
> I just wonder if the devs have noticed how much this has grown when 
> packages with X flags are included in the system set?.  Would Gnome do 
> the same?  What about other GUI's?
>
> If I do this:
>
> USE="-*" emerge -pv system
>
> I get this:
>
> Total: 50 packages (50 reinstalls)
>
> What a difference USE flags makes huh?
>
> Dale
>
>:-)  :-)

I use fluxbox and sometimes wmaker. Probably a lot of people are put 
off by the default configs, but both offer extremely powerful and 
versatile customization tools. Add your fave terminal emulator (I 
recommend terminator for it's killer feature set) and conky for system 
monitoring, midnight commander or worker for file management, and you 
have a pretty complete desktop without need of all the bloaty k or g 
stuff.  It's a *lot* faster that way, too.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dual Boot Partitions

[Elaine C. Sharpe]

In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote:
> On Sunday 27 February 2011 19:35:55 walt wrote:
>
>> I've used this product several times with perfect results (so far):
>> 
>> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
>> 
>> Of course if you already have a working linux machine you can install
>> gparted and use it that way to move, resize and create partitions.
>> Very easy and almost painless.
>
> Gparted is indeed pretty; I use it often to get a picture of the partition 
> layout (I boot from System Rescue CD: http://www.sysresccd.org/). However, 
> it leaves partitions in the wrong order if you insert one before another. 
> Fdisk is ideal for fixing that:
>
> $ fdisk /dev/sda
> x
> f
> w
>
> Job done.
>
> -- 
> Rgds
> Peter

I love systemrescuecd, it's saved my butt many times. Customizing it for 
my own use was my introduction to gentoo. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ALSA - Still No Sound

[Elaine C. Sharpe]

In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote:
> --nextPart2016980.EoLg6xAmlW
> Content-Type: Text/Plain;
>   charset="us-ascii"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> On Sunday 06 March 2011 09:28:39 Dale wrote:
>> Mick wrote:
>> > On Saturday 26 February 2011 21:53:52 walt wrote:
>> >> There is a very recent post from someone (Walter?) that says he got
>> >> audio only after compiling all the kernel sound features as modules,
>> >> but he has no idea why (nor do I) but, as no one yet has a better idea,
>> >> I'd try it as an experiment.
>> >=20
>> > Because alsaconf needs to probe one module at a time and set its
>> > parameters.
>>=20
>> Just to confuse things more, I have the same driver for my sound and I
>> build everything into my kernel and always have.  The sound worked as
>> soon as I unmuted it.
>>=20
>> root@fireball / # cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep REALTEK
>> CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK=3Dy
>> root@fireball / #
>>=20
>> Weird huh?
>
> Like you, I used to build the lot into the kernel for years and it worked=20
> fine.  Suddenly it stopped.  With no other discernible changes at the time =
> to=20
> blame for this I raised a bug.  The devs recommended that I should build al=
> sa=20
> as modules and that fixed the problem.  I haven't yet tried to go back to=20
> building it all in the kernel to see if it would still work.
>=2D-=20
> Regards,
> Mick
>

Same thing happened here, I used to build support for my sound card into 
the kernel but it stopped working a few months ago. Rebuilding the
kernel without the built-in sound drivers and using the modules instead
works now. ISTR that years ago it was the opposite, which is why I got 
in the habit of building kernels with alsa drivers built-in.

The odd thing is I didn't see any news about it, nor was the internet 
packed with people suddenly having alsa problems, so I never knew what
exactly happened. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with python-updater ?

[Elaine C. Sharpe]

In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote:
> Jacques Montier (Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:17:41 +0100):
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I upgraded python2.6 to python2.7,
>> then i run eselect python set python2.7,
>> then python-updater.
>> 
>> Here is the python-updater output :
>> 
>> * Starting Python Updater...
>>  * Main active version of Python:  2.7
>>  * Active version of Python 2: 2.7
>>  * Active version of Python 3: 3.1
>>  *   Adding to list: app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs:0
>>  *   Adding to list: app-emulation/virtualbox-bin:0
>>  *   Adding to list: app-office/libreoffice-bin:0
>>  *   Adding to list: dev-libs/boost:1.42
>>  * check: manual [Added to list manually, see CHECKS in manpage for
>> more information.]
>>  *   Adding to list: sys-libs/tdb:0
>>  *   Adding to list: x11-libs/vte:0
>>  * check: manual [Added to list manually, see CHECKS in manpage for
>> more information.]
>>  * emerge -Dv1 --keep-going app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs:0
>> app-emulation/virtualbox-bin:0 app-office/libreoffice-bin:0
>> dev-libs/boost:1.42 sys-libs/tdb:0 x11-libs/vte:0
>> ...
>> Ok, everything emerge fine.
>> 
>> If i run python-updater again, then i get exactly the same output as
>> before (emerging emul-linux-x86-baselibs:0, BOOST:1.42, etc...)
>> 
>> What's wrong ??
>
> According to the list of checks python-updater performs it's indeed
> weird that it's happening. But maybe python-updater has some
> undocumented, hidden intelligence.:) If you run emerge or something
> written in python, do you see (in the process
> listing) /usr/bin/python2.7 being the interpreter in action? If so, try
> moving away /usr/lib/python2.6 and /usr/bin/python2.6 (just moving
> away, not deleting). Does still everything run? Then I believe you can
> safely get rid of python 2.6 and python-updater will probably stop
> trying to re-emerge everything.
>
> -rz

Sounds like it could be the same problem I was having. Boost seems broken 
for me on two different systems since 1.42.0-r1, at least according to 
python-updater. I tried 1.42.0 and 1.45.0 as well but still had the same 
problem, so finally just got rid of boost. Afterward python updated to 2.7 in 
an orderly fashion, and once I switched from xmms2 to mpd no longer
needed boost. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

[Elaine C. Sharpe]

In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote:
>
> the best filesystem for you is the one you have
> tested and found best suits your needs.
>

I agree with that part of what you said (which is why I've stuck with 
ext3 for so long), but the rest may have been a tad harsh.

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Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

[Elaine C. Sharpe]

In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote:
> Bill Longman wrote:
>> On 03/24/2011 11:17 AM, Dale wrote:
>>
>>> kashani wrote:
>>>  
 On 3/24/2011 10:19 AM, Dale wrote:

> I have never used LVM but when it messes up after a upgrade, as has
> happened to many others, see if you say the same thing. I hope your
> backups are good and they can restore.
>
> Dale
>  
  Meh, boot a liveCD and fix it which took all of 15 minutes. I
 don't see that as a failing of LVM, but of Gentoo for lack of another
 culprit. You can only roll your OS forward in so many ways before you
 have to do a little offline plumbing. May as well complain that you
 had to shutdown your machine to put in more RAM.

 kashani



>>> I researched using LVM a good while back.  The reason I didn't was what
>>> I posted.  It is prone to problems that are difficult if not impossible
>>> to correct.  I may not have data that is worth much but I don't want to
>>> loose it either way.
>>>
>>> People that have read these posts can't plead ignorance.
>>>  
>> Yet you, who "have never used LVM" *can* plead knowledge?
>> Uhsomething's really wrong in this formula.
>>
>>
>
> Yep, I read about others having problems and loosing data.
>
> Dale
>
>:-)  :-)

You can read about others having problems and losing data with pretty 
much every bit of software ever coded. *Lots* of people are not particularly 
competent and write horroe stories or bad reviews without bothering to
mention the errors they made which actually caused the problem.
I see evidence of that on this very list daily. So IMO your method is 
a bit suspect. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

[Elaine C. Sharpe]

In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote:
> Elaine C. Sharpe wrote:
>> In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yep, I read about others having problems and loosing data.
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> :-)  :-)
>>>  
>> You can read about others having problems and losing data with pretty
>> much every bit of software ever coded. *Lots* of people are not particularly
>> competent and write horroe stories or bad reviews without bothering to
>> mention the errors they made which actually caused the problem.
>> I see evidence of that on this very list daily. So IMO your method is
>> a bit suspect. :)
>>
>>
>
> The opposite can be said too.  I seem to recall hal working for a lot of 
> people but for me, it was a miserable failure and forced me into a hard 
> reset.
>

So, if your method doesn't really work very well but you invert it and 
see that then it doesn't work well either that validates the original choice?
:)

> Just because something works for most people, doesn't mean it will for 
> everyone either.  If you lose data, it doesn't matter.  LVM just adds 
> one more layer of something to go wrong.  Me, I don't need the extra 
> risk of having a system that doesn't boot and a loss of data.  I'm sure 
> there are a lot of people that see it the way I do too.  They just don't 
> need the extra risk.
>

Using the least number of layers of abstraction you can get away with is
a perfectly valid criteria. What I was pointing out was that informal
polls of users with a sad story to tell is not a very effective way to 
conduct research. People say all kinds of things that just aren't true.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: encrypted email (gentoo-windows)

[Elaine C. Sharpe]

In linux.gentoo.user, James wrote:
>
>What I would really like is to be able to exchange encrypted mail
>with any MS user

What, you've never received an encrypted email from a windows user 
before? If you think about it, surely you have...

I know ms is pretty bad about standards and interoperability, but 
pgp or gpg encrypted mail is relatively common on win, *nix, and 
os x. Pretty sure the problem you're trying to solve doesn't exist.

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