[gentoo-user] fsck problems

[Dave Weaver]

If I run 'fsck -n /dev/hda3'  I'm told that there are some errors:

  fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
  e2fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
  Warning!  /dev/hda3 is mounted.
  /dev/hda3 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.
  Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
  Inode 131170, i_blocks is 64, should be 8.  Fix? no

  Inode 131212, i_blocks is 64, should be 8.  Fix? no

etc...

However, /dev/hda3 is mounted as my root filesystem, so it's not
simply a case of unmounting it to run fsck to fix the errors.

I've tried booting of the Gentoo boot disk, but when I do that fsck
tells me there are no errors on that partition.

Why the difference?
How do I fix the errors?
Why does fsck tell me that the drive wasn't cleanly unmounted? (I
always shutdown and restarted the system properly)

Not sure it's relevant, but just in case, the start of my /etc/fstab is:

/dev/hda3   /   ext2noatime   
 1 1
/dev/hda1   /boot   ext2noauto,noatime
 1 2
/dev/hda2   noneswapsw
 0 0

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with Asterisk PABX

[Nick Rout]

looks like you are not the only one:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85655


On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 09:49 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> Hi All,
>   I'm trying to play around with asterisk and I just emerged version 1.07
> and on startup I get these errors.
> 
> $ sudo asterisk -vvc
> 
> [res_features.so]Warning, flexible rate not heavily tested!
> loader.c:258
> ast_load_resource: /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/res_features.so: undefined
> symbol: adsi_available
> loader.c:440 load_modules: Loading module res_features.so failed!
> Ouch ... error while writing audio data: : Broken pipe
> 
> 
> I've tried recompiling it again and it still spews the same thing.
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with Asterisk PABX

[Ow Mun Heng]

On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 19:45 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
> looks like you are not the only one:
> 
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85655

Hey Nick. Yeah. I think I saw that bug and unfortunately this is on
1.0.7 and it stil happens. 

Turns out I can get asterisk started if I were to add these into
modules.conf

noload => res_features.so
noload => chan_sip.so
noload => app_parkandannounce.so
noload => chan_mgcp.so
noload => chan_iax2.so
noload => chan_skinny.so
noload => app_dial.so
noload => app_queue.so


and I get dropped to a CLI after that. Not sure if it will work or
anything at all. 

Will try it out later

> 
> On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 09:49 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > I'm trying to play around with asterisk and I just emerged version 1.07
> > and on startup I get these errors.
> > 
> > $ sudo asterisk -vvc
> > 
> > [res_features.so]Warning, flexible rate not heavily tested!
> > loader.c:258
> > ast_load_resource: /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/res_features.so: undefined
> > symbol: adsi_available
> > loader.c:440 load_modules: Loading module res_features.so failed!
> > Ouch ... error while writing audio data: : Broken pipe
> > 
> > 
> > I've tried recompiling it again and it still spews the same thing.
> > 
> > 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache vulnerability warning

[Patrick Marquetecken]

> Have you installed mod_proxy on your server? If so you may be
> vulnerable. But I do not know how to reconfigure the proxy.
> You should scan your web logs after connect attempts. If they return
HTTP 400, there is no problem you have to care about. But there might be
other opinions on that issue. :)
>
> /Uwe

Indeed, the machine is a reverse proxy to protect our Exchange.
I will check the logs more carefully.

Patrick


>
> Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>After a security scan of some machines i got this vulnerability warning
>> on
>>our apache 2.5x.
>>I seem not to find the solution/
>>
>>
>>THREAT:
>>The HTTP server or the HTTP proxy server accepts the "CONNECT" method.
IMPACT:
>>By exploiting this vulnerability, unauthorized Internet users may be
able to connect to your entire internal network using the "CONNECT"
method. This can also be used by attackers to create tunnels through
proxies
>> which
>>support this method since such hops are difficult to traceback.
>>SOLUTION:
>>Reconfigure your server to disable this method or restrict its access.
>>
>>TIA
>>Patrick
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>>
>>
>>
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Docs & FAQ: Rules Suggestion

[Martoni]

Yeah, rules might be fine.
Will everyone follow them I wonder. 
The risk with introducing strict rules for a discussion group (or list) is that, IMHO, increases the risk of starting flamewars.
People not expecting one or more, more or less polite pointers to
Google, f.g.o and whatnot, might easily misunderstand those mails.

Regards,Martin S

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Docs & FAQ: Rules Suggestion

[Jason Cooper]

Martoni ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> Yeah, rules might be fine.
> Will everyone follow them I wonder. 
> The risk with introducing strict rules for a discussion group (or list) is 
> that, IMHO, increases the risk of starting flamewars.
> People not expecting one or more, more or less polite pointers to Google, 
> f.g.o and whatnot, might easily misunderstand those mails.

Please qoute the relevant portions of messages you are replying to.  Now
I'm left with a sudden tightness in my chest at the thought of a control
freak trying to place a bunch of unenforceable rules on the
mailinglists.  :)

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[gentoo-user] Sound on Presario 2800

[smazanek]

Hello,

I am trying to bring up sound on my Presario 2800.
I have looked at http://tuxmobil.org/compaq_presario2800.html,
however I did not find something like Intel ICH (i8xx) audio support.
Is this because I use kernel 2.6?

Whenever I start kde I get an error that device /dev/dsp cannot
be found. Can you please help me to deal with that?

Ciao,
Steffen
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[gentoo-user] OT - sudo doesn't do echo

[Bill Roberts]

I've started using sudo in preference to su'ing, but I've found that
"echo" doesn't seem to work with sudo. 

When I:

$ sudo echo something >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
-/bin/bash: /etc/portage/package.keywords: Permission denied

I look at the permissions:

ls -l /etc/portage/package.keywords
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 520 Apr  8 06:11 /etc/portage/package.keywords

Then I scratch my head.

Anyone explain why?

Bill Roberts


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - sudo doesn't do echo

[Chris Prior]

On 2005.04.08 08:06:47 -0400, Bill Roberts wrote:
> I've started using sudo in preference to su'ing, but I've found that
> "echo" doesn't seem to work with sudo. 

> $ sudo echo something >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
> -/bin/bash: /etc/portage/package.keywords: Permission denied

This is more a job for *nix file permissions than for sudoers. You
might run echo with root priviledges, but that doesn't include
access to roots files. I would go the straightforward way of 

chown :wheel /etc/portage/package.*
chmod g+w /etc/portage/package.*


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - sudo doesn't do echo

[Daniel Westermann-Clark]

On 2005-04-08 08:06:47 -0400, Bill Roberts wrote:
> $ sudo echo something >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
> -/bin/bash: /etc/portage/package.keywords: Permission denied

Chris already gave one solution, but I can explain the problem.  In
your original command, the redirection is happening in your user's
shell, not with the permissions granted by sudo.  The command as sudo
sees it is "echo something".

You can use sudo with redirection:

sudo sh -c "echo something >> /etc/portage/package.keywords"

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Docs & FAQ: Rules Suggestion

[Martoni]

On Apr 8, 2005 1:07 PM, Jason Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Martoni ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:> Yeah, rules might be fine.> Will everyone follow them I wonder.> The risk with introducing strict rules for a discussion group (or list) is> that, IMHO, increases the risk of starting flamewars.> People not expecting one or more, more or less polite pointers to Google,> f.g.o and whatnot, might easily misunderstand those mails.Please qoute the relevant portions of messages you are replying to.  NowI'm left with a sudden tightness in my chest at the thought of a controlfreak trying to place a bunch of unenforceable rules on themailinglists.  :)
Oh - not to worry. Just people wanting some structure in their lives :)

I suppose I meant to quote this:
>I think that we should make some rules for the list.

But never got round to it.

My experience is that strictish rules on forums/lists are seen by a
number of people "to be meant to be violated" - perhaps I've just been
on all the wrong lists (except Gentoo-users which I've found to be
extremely civil in comparison to too many).They also tend to bring
forth the controll freaks raving  about enforcment of more or less
intelligent rules. :( 
All leading to bandwidth vasting flamewars.

YMMV :)

Regards,Martin S

Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless switches off when I run laptop on the battery

[William Kenworthy]

On my orinoco, its inverse.  Power *management* is off, so the card
works, power management is on, card goes into save mode.

iwconfig eth2 power off # card is on

BillK

On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 00:59 -0500, Hareesh Nagarajan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I followed the Gentoo Power Management guide to power down my wireless
> card when I disconnect the power source.
> 
> Link: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/power-management-guide.xml
> 
> Now, I do not like this behaviour so I did this:
> # rc-update delete pm.wlan0 battery
> But it doesn't seem to work. My wireless interface continues to get
> switched off.
> 
> When it is switched off even after I hit this command the card still
> doesn't get switched on:
> # iwconfig wlan0 power on
> 
> Any hints? 
> Thanks,
> 
> Hareesh
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - sudo doesn't do echo

[Bill Roberts]

On 08:51 Fri 08 Apr , Daniel Westermann-Clark wrote:
> On 2005-04-08 08:06:47 -0400, Bill Roberts wrote:
> > $ sudo echo something >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
> > -/bin/bash: /etc/portage/package.keywords: Permission denied
> 
> Chris already gave one solution, but I can explain the problem.  In
> your original command, the redirection is happening in your user's
> shell, not with the permissions granted by sudo.  The command as sudo
> sees it is "echo something".
> 
> You can use sudo with redirection:
> 
> sudo sh -c "echo something >> /etc/portage/package.keywords"

Thanks.

...teach a man to fish...

Bill Roberts



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[gentoo-user] Re: changing permissions on a usb scanner device with 2.6 kernel

[Robert S]

>>Only root can use my hp 5200 scanner. I don't use hotplug and I read about
>>the usb-scanner script which I cannot find on my computer.
>>Is there a command like
>>chmod 666 ?
>>My kernel is 2.6.7 and my device is
>>hp:libusb:001:003
>>  
>>
> 
> Try adding other users to the 'scanner' group.  At least, that's what
> works for me.
> 
> man sane
> man sane-usb

Try this - it works:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Installing_USB_Scanner


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[gentoo-user] /dev/dsp: No such device... but mplayer has sound?

[daniel]

I just installed Amarok (I don't use arts) and it kept failing with this 
error:

  [GStreamer Error] ALSA device "default" is already in use by another program

Switching to the xine-engine rendered this error:

  xine was unable to initialise any audio-drivers.

So I decided to wander through /dev looking for clues and found a few dsp's:

  # ls -lh /dev/dsp*
  crw---  1 gabriel audio 14,  3 Mar  4 15:14 /dev/dsp
  crw---  1 gabriel audio 14, 19 Mar  4 15:14 /dev/dsp1
  crw---  1 gabriel audio 14, 35 Mar  4 15:14 /dev/dsp2
  crw---  1 gabriel audio 14, 51 Mar  4 15:14 /dev/dsp3

They're there... so i tried cat'ing them:

  $ cat /dev/dsp
  cat: /dev/dsp: No such device
  $ cat /dev/dsp1
  cat: /dev/dsp1: No such device
  $ cat /dev/dsp2
  cat: /dev/dsp2: No such device
  $ cat /dev/dsp3
  cat: /dev/dsp3: No such device

Now this is the weird part.  If /dev/dsp doesn't exist, you'd think (a) it 
wouldn't be there and (b) *no* sound would work.  But I just played an avi 
file with mplayer:

  
  Checking audio filter chain for 48000Hz/2ch/16bit -> 48000Hz/2ch/16bit...
  AF_pre: af format: 2 bps, 2 ch, 48000 hz, little endian signed int
  AF_pre: 48000Hz 2ch Signed 16-bit (Little-Endian)
  alsa-init: got device=0, subdevice=0
  alsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default
  alsa: 48000 Hz/2 channels/4 bpf/65536 bytes buffer/Signed 16 bit Little
Endian
  AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch Signed 16-bit (Little-Endian) (2 bps)
  Building audio filter chain for 48000Hz/2ch/16bit -> 48000Hz/2ch/16bit...
  Starting playback...
  

Xmms works too.

Now this is a new setup for me.  It's my first amd64 system, so maybe I'm 
missing something, so I'm hoping someone on this list might be able to help 
me out.  If this is an amarok bug, please say so, so I can report it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] More acroread weirdness

[louis brazeau]

On Apr 7, 2005 10:31 PM, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 10:52 -0500, David D. Rea wrote:
> > Hi All-
> >
> > I'm evidently experiencing a bug in the (masked) acroread-7.0 package. I'd
> > like to help out and find a solution, but I'm not sure where to start...
> >
> > The bug is with acroread's interaction with mozilla-firefox. Before
> > installing acroread, Firefox would download and view (in gpdf) any PDF
> > file that was clicked from a hyperlink in a browser window. After
> > installing acroread, Firefox worked (including launching acroread instead
> > of gpdf) until all windows were closed.
> 
> I just tried this out and unfortunately I can't confirm the same
> problem. Evertyhing seems fine to me
> 
> --
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Works fine here too. The only change I notice is in Acroread's behavior. 

Previously, I had Acroread 5 and when I opened a pdf from Firefox it
would open in a new Acroread 5 window (with the ugly gray border,
toolbar, etc). After instaling version 7 it still openned in a new
windows (altough it had a bettter looking toolbar).

I tried to reproduce your problem by shutting down Firefox and
starting it again. That is when the change in behaviour occured. Now
when I open a pdf from Firefox, it opens inside of Firefox's window.

It must be something related to this change that causes your problem.
Unfortunately, it doesn't tell you what the solution might be.
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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/dsp: No such device... but mplayer has sound?

[Neo Anderson]

On Apr 8, 2005 9:23 PM, daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I just installed Amarok (I don't use arts) and it kept failing with thiserror:  [GStreamer Error] ALSA device "default" is already in use by another programSwitching to the xine-engine rendered this error:  xine was unable to initialise any audio-drivers.So I decided to wander through /dev looking for clues and found a few dsp's:  # ls -lh /dev/dsp*  crw---  1 gabriel audio 14,  3 Mar  4 15:14 /dev/dsp  crw---  1 gabriel audio 14, 19 Mar  4 15:14 /dev/dsp1  crw---  1 gabriel audio 14, 35 Mar  4 15:14 /dev/dsp2  crw---  1 gabriel audio 14, 51 Mar  4 15:14 /dev/dsp3They're there... so i tried cat'ing them:  $ cat /dev/dsp  cat: /dev/dsp: No such device  $ cat /dev/dsp1  cat: /dev/dsp1: No such device  $ cat /dev/dsp2  cat: /dev/dsp2: No such device  $ cat /dev/dsp3  cat: /dev/dsp3: No such deviceNow this is the weird part.  If /dev/dsp doesn't exist, you'd think (a) itwouldn't be there and (b) *no* sound would work.  But I just played an avifile with mplayer:Checking audio filter chain for 48000Hz/2ch/16bit -> 48000Hz/2ch/16bit...  AF_pre: af format: 2 bps, 2 ch, 48000 hz, little endian signed int  AF_pre: 48000Hz 2ch Signed 16-bit (Little-Endian)  alsa-init: got device=0, subdevice=0  alsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default  alsa: 48000 Hz/2 channels/4 bpf/65536 bytes buffer/Signed 16 bit LittleEndian  AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch Signed 16-bit (Little-Endian) (2 bps)  Building audio filter chain for 48000Hz/2ch/16bit -> 48000Hz/2ch/16bit...  Starting playback...  Xmms works too.Now this is a new setup for me.  It's my first amd64 system, so maybe I'mmissing something, so I'm hoping someone on this list might be able to helpme out.  If this is an amarok bug, please say so, so I can report it.--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing listyou
might need to recompile the kernel, there's an option called "oss
support" in ALSA section, iirc. btw, you can follow the alsa howto in
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo source kernels

[Ed Jabbour]

On Friday 08 April 2005 12:53 am, W.Kenworthy wrote:
> Had this on 3 systems this morning: change the /etc/make.profile link to
> point to 2005.0  Note that 2005.0 has a 2.4 subdirectory that locks you
> into the 2.4 stuff if make.profile symlinks to it instead of one level
> up.

There is /etc/make.profile.2005 which points to 2005.0, as well as a 
make.profile pointing to 2004.3.  I thought that took care of things - but 
perhaps not.  Besides, Daniel Drake's explanation is that Gentoo's site uses 
a 2.4 profile, not my machine.

>
> On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 22:34 +0100, Daniel Drake wrote:
> > Ed Jabbour wrote:
> > > I am running gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.11-r4.  As announced,
> > > gentoo-dev-sources has disappeared from sys/kernel leaving
> > > gentoo-sources.  However, the Online Database lists 2.4.28-r8 as the
> > > latest stable build.  I just ran emerge uDvp world and I am offered 
> > > "NS   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r5", which is marked M+ in
> > > the database.  I do not have any kernel in any /etc/portage files.  Is
> > > the database not up to date or is something wrong at my end?  Any
> > > advice appreciated.  Thanks.
> >
> > This is a bug in packages.gentoo.org. Well, strictly not a bug.
> > packages.gentoo.org runs on a 2.4 kernel, and therefore uses a 2.4
> > profile. As you might expect, all 2.6 kernels are hardmasked under the
> > 2.4 profile. An unfortunate side effect is that this is reflected in the
> > content published on the site.
> >
> > I asked the maintainer if he could do anything to resolve this - i.e.
> > change profile or refine the parsing. I didn't recieve a very positive
> > answer.
> >
> > But this does raise other questions, particularly as we can now have
> > much finer control over masking now that we have decent cascading
> > profiles. If there was a 2.7/2.8 tree out, we'd have another profile
> > tree for it, and we'd add masks in the other profiles accordingly to
> > make sure 2.7/2.8 was not available in other profiles. Which kernels
> > would packages.gentoo.org then show as masked..?
> >
> > Maybe more information (such as the profile enforcing the mask) will be
> > available in the new version of the site which will hopefully go online
> > soon.
> >
> > Daniel
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Re: [gentoo-user] Sound on Presario 2800

[A. Khattri]

On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I am trying to bring up sound on my Presario 2800.
> I have looked at http://tuxmobil.org/compaq_presario2800.html,
> however I did not find something like Intel ICH (i8xx) audio support.
> Is this because I use kernel 2.6?

Run "lspci" and show us the output. (If you dont have lspci installed then
run "emerge pciutils" first).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re:USE flags unimportant?

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

such a person could easily use SuSE, Mandrake or Ubuntu.

If you do not need useflags, you do not need gentoo. If you do not need 
gentoo, you are wasting your time with it. Plus, corporate users want a 
stable base with years of support contracts, nothing gentoo is suited for.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installation

[A. Khattri]

On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, J. Michael Morse wrote:

> I get the following message:
>
> !!! ERROR:  sys-apps/texinfo-4.8 failed.
> !!! Function src_compile, Line 41, Exitcode2
> !!! (no error message)
> !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status
> message.
>
> I have yet to figure out what the 'topmost build error' is.

It means the "real" error that preceded the "ERROR:" message.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Installation

[Dave Nebinger]

> I have yet to figure out what the 'topmost build error' is.  The
> Gentoo website doesn't offer much in the way of error messages.
> If someone could post some links/sources for beginners to read,
> I would be appreciative.

In your output you'll generally see errors generated by gcc or ld, sometimes
things like missing libraries or whatever.  In this scenario, consider the
'topmost error' to begin at the gcc command line used to compile followed by
the error messages themselves, all the way down to the reported 'include
topmost error' message.

Sometimes the error will come when executing the configure script; in this
case the whole configure dump is sometimes useful, but actually what helps
even more is the config.log file that was generated when configure was
running.  This will be found in the
/var/tmp/portage/[package]/work/[package] directory.



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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - sudo doesn't do echo

[A. Khattri]

On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Bill Roberts wrote:

> I've started using sudo in preference to su'ing, but I've found that
> "echo" doesn't seem to work with sudo.
>
> When I:
>
> $ sudo echo something >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
> -/bin/bash: /etc/portage/package.keywords: Permission denied
>
> I look at the permissions:
>
> ls -l /etc/portage/package.keywords
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 520 Apr  8 06:11 /etc/portage/package.keywords

This is because the redirect happens outside of, and after the echo
command completes so you're no longer root at that point.

Try:

sudo (echo something >> /etc/portage/package.keywords)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Docs & FAQ: Rules Suggestion

[Jason Cooper]

Martoni ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> On Apr 8, 2005 1:07 PM, Jason Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Martoni ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> > > Yeah, rules might be fine.
> > > Will everyone follow them I wonder.
> > > The risk with introducing strict rules for a discussion group (or list) 
> > > is
> > > that, IMHO, increases the risk of starting flamewars.
> > > People not expecting one or more, more or less polite pointers to 
> > > Google,
> > > f.g.o and whatnot, might easily misunderstand those mails.
> > 
> > Please qoute the relevant portions of messages you are replying to. Now
> > I'm left with a sudden tightness in my chest at the thought of a control
> > freak trying to place a bunch of unenforceable rules on the
> > mailinglists. :)
> 
> Oh - not to worry. Just people wanting some structure in their lives :)
> 
> I suppose I meant to quote this:
> >I think that we should make some rules for the list.
> 
> But never got round to it.
> 
> My experience is that strictish rules on forums/lists are seen by a number 
> of people "to be meant to be violated" - perhaps I've just been on all the 
> wrong lists (except Gentoo-users which I've found to be extremely civil in 
> comparison to too many).They also tend to bring forth the controll freaks 
> raving about enforcment of more or less intelligent rules. :( 
> All leading to bandwidth vasting flamewars.

agreed.  Some folks spend too much time inside the computer bubble
(where control is absolute and results are black and white).  They then
think the same strict solution-set can be applied to a group of people
from all over the world with different personality types.  Isn't it
"When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail"? :)  

There's something to be said for law & order, especially pertaining to
maintenance of a civilized society.  However, the assumed caveat is that
the laws (rules, here) are enforceable.  If there are no means to
effectively enforce a rule, then the presence of the rule (and
half-assed attempts to enforce it) are worse than no rule.  

Say there were rules on this list, and someone broke one (eg I said
"ass" above, oops, I did it again :) ).  What could we do?  blacklist
the email address?  Anyone got a gmail invite?  We haven't stopped the
_person_ from posting, just forced them to use a different account.  And
now they want to make a point.  Well, that's just peachy.  We just made
the problem worse.

With the current setup, annoyances pop up, are mostly ignored, then fade
out.  Effective deployment of the delete key is the best defense, IMO.
An MUA (like mutt) that threads mail and allows for the deletion of
entire threads with one keystroke is even better.


just my $0.02

Cooper.

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[gentoo-user] dispatch-conf problem

[Botykai Zsolt]

Hi 4 everyone.

Just run into trouble:
After some xorg upgrade realised thet my right ALT key doesn't work anymore.
Tried to set it with:
$ setxkbmap -option lv3:ralt_switch
but got this error.
 Error loading new keyboard description

Then checked the stato of 
/usr/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp

and realised as it's a binary it contains some weird lines like:
1. line: <<< /etc/config-archive/usr/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp
Later line: ==

I thought it was dispatch-conf inserted this lines :-(

Currently I'm emerge xorg-x11 (-B) again to create a new binary.

Any idea how to avoid it? It's a bug?

Cheers,
Zsoltika

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re:USE flags unimportant?

[AJ Spagnoletti]

> If you do not need useflags, you do not need gentoo. If you do not need
> gentoo, you are wasting your time with it. Plus, corporate users want a
> stable base with years of support contracts, nothing gentoo is suited for.

With what I do on my computer I do not *need* useflags however when I
was looking into linux  (sadly I was a windows user for a long time) I
wanted something that would not only get me away from windows but also
provide me with a bit of a challenge. I picked gentoo because I wanted
things like USE flags and the ability to customize my system to my
standards. Its just as much a want for things like USE flags as it is
a Need for them.

AJ - just adding my 2 cents
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Re: [gentoo-user] dispatch-conf problem

[Bastian Balthazar Bux]

Botykai Zsolt wrote:
[snip]
and realised as it's a binary it contains some weird lines like:
1. line: <<< /etc/config-archive/usr/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp
Later line: ==
I thought it was dispatch-conf inserted this lines :-(
right, take a look @
http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?group=gmane.linux.gentoo.user&article=126043
has been discussed here few days ago
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Re: [gentoo-user] dispatch-conf problem

[Edward Catmur]

> Then checked the stato of 
> /usr/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp
> 
> and realised as it's a binary it contains some weird lines like:
> 1. line: <<< /etc/config-archive/usr/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp
> Later line: ==
> 
> I thought it was dispatch-conf inserted this lines :-(
> Currently I'm emerge xorg-x11 (-B) again to create a new binary.
> 
> Any idea how to avoid it? It's a bug?

Yes, it's a bug in dispatch-conf. 

A patch to dispatch-conf was posted to this list recently (check the
archives) but there is a workaround: at the dispatch-conf prompt, press
't' (toggle-merge) to switch from the _mrg1 to the _cfg1 file.

Ed Catmur

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sound on Presario 2800

[Jan Han Xie]

On Friday 08 April 2005 21:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to bring up sound on my Presario 2800.
> I have looked at http://tuxmobil.org/compaq_presario2800.html,
> however I did not find something like Intel ICH (i8xx) audio support.
> Is this because I use kernel 2.6?
>
> Whenever I start kde I get an error that device /dev/dsp cannot
> be found. Can you please help me to deal with that?
>
> Ciao,
> Steffen
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Hi I'm a presario 2800 user too :)
Just add
ALSA_TOOLS="as10k1 ac3dec"
ALSA_CARDS="intel8x0"
to your make.conf and read the http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml";>Gentoo ALSA Howto

Regards,
Jan

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College of Computer Science, Zhejiang University,
Hangzhou, China


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re:USE flags unimportant?

[Mark Knecht]

On Apr 8, 2005 7:14 AM, AJ Spagnoletti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If you do not need useflags, you do not need gentoo. If you do not need
> > gentoo, you are wasting your time with it. Plus, corporate users want a
> > stable base with years of support contracts, nothing gentoo is suited for.
> 
> With what I do on my computer I do not *need* useflags however when I
> was looking into linux  (sadly I was a windows user for a long time) I
> wanted something that would not only get me away from windows but also
> provide me with a bit of a challenge. I picked gentoo because I wanted
> things like USE flags and the ability to customize my system to my
> standards. Its just as much a want for things like USE flags as it is
> a Need for them.

Hear hear! 

My point was really NOT that the concept of USE flags is unimportant.
It's that the values that are set for each flag is not overly
important for the average user. Like most things in life probably 90%
of the Gentoo boxes out there use some common small set of flags.
Software compiles. We users are happy.

For the other 10% that want to use something else, Gentoo gives them
the choice to do so.

I think that the active people here are mostly those like me asking
for help and those hotrod builders who give the help. I'm quite sure
that if I built hot rods I'd like to get the most performance I could.
I'm also quite sure that as I sit here this morning and type this
response that the USE flags this program was compiled with make very
little difference to my experience of using this machine.

I think it's GREAT that Gentoo has USE flags and that smart hotrod
builders can make use of them. I also think it's GREAT that people
like me really don't have to pay attention to them very much to get a
machine built, running and stable.

I'm far more impressed by the ability to search for an app in portage
and have it on my machines in a few minutes (I.e. - no dependency
hell) vs. the values that USE flags have been set to when the program
was built.

But then again, I'm the stupid guy who asks for help, and a happy
Gentoo user for over two years who has probably changed his flags once
in the last 12 months. (nptl)

Cheers,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] More acroread weirdness

[Frédéric Grosshans]

Le vendredi 08 avril 2005 à 09:25 -0400, louis brazeau a écrit :
> On Apr 7, 2005 10:31 PM, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 10:52 -0500, David D. Rea wrote:
> > > Hi All-
> > > The bug is with acroread's interaction with mozilla-firefox. Before
> > > installing acroread, Firefox would download and view (in gpdf) any PDF
> > > file that was clicked from a hyperlink in a browser window. After
> > > installing acroread, Firefox worked (including launching acroread instead
> > > of gpdf) until all windows were closed.
> > 
> 
> Previously, I had Acroread 5 and when I opened a pdf from Firefox it
> would open in a new Acroread 5 window (with the ugly gray border,
> toolbar, etc). After instaling version 7 it still openned in a new
> windows (altough it had a bettter looking toolbar).

I don't know with acroread 7, but acroread 5 was not a very nice plugin
here (it eated a lot of cpu). The solution was the noplugin USE flag. It
might help you with acroread 7

   Hope this helps,

 Fred 

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[gentoo-user]

[Aleksandr Guidrevitch]

Hi All,
I have 3dfx Voodoo3 2000 on xorg-x11 6.8.2.
There is a problem with opengl within xorg: before
starting xorg, I need to run opengl-update xorg-x11 in
order to get opengl working. When I start xorg next time,
opengl is disabled again :(( Seems that I can't find an
answer in google
Any thoughts ?
Sincerely,
Aleksandr Guidrevitch
  
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[gentoo-user] Re: dispatch-conf problem

[Botykai Zsolt]

Friday 08 April 2005 16.24-n, Edward Catmur ezt írta:
> > Then checked the stato of
> > /usr/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp
> > and realised as it's a binary it contains some weird lines like:
> > 1. line: <<< /etc/config-archive/usr/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp
> > Later line: ==
> > I thought it was dispatch-conf inserted this lines :-(
> > Currently I'm emerge xorg-x11 (-B) again to create a new binary.
> >
> > Any idea how to avoid it? It's a bug?
>
> Yes, it's a bug in dispatch-conf.
> A patch to dispatch-conf was posted to this list recently (check the
> archives) but there is a workaround: at the dispatch-conf prompt, press
> 't' (toggle-merge) to switch from the _mrg1 to the _cfg1 file.

thx you both guys, learnt it.




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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Docs & FAQ: Rules Suggestion

[Shawn Singh]

I think using the word "rules" might have been a poor choice of words
(on my part) :)...I think more so what I was thinking of was
guidelines for posting...To that end I think Nick Rout made the best
suggestion...ESRs doc on how to ask a question ;) Most Unix Geeks will
appreciate that one :)...

Reference:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

On Apr 8, 2005 9:58 AM, Jason Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Martoni ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> > On Apr 8, 2005 1:07 PM, Jason Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Martoni ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> > > > Yeah, rules might be fine.
> > > > Will everyone follow them I wonder.
> > > > The risk with introducing strict rules for a discussion group (or list)
> > > > is
> > > > that, IMHO, increases the risk of starting flamewars.
> > > > People not expecting one or more, more or less polite pointers to
> > > > Google,
> > > > f.g.o and whatnot, might easily misunderstand those mails.
> > >
> > > Please qoute the relevant portions of messages you are replying to. Now
> > > I'm left with a sudden tightness in my chest at the thought of a control
> > > freak trying to place a bunch of unenforceable rules on the
> > > mailinglists. :)
> >
> > Oh - not to worry. Just people wanting some structure in their lives :)
> >
> > I suppose I meant to quote this:
> > >I think that we should make some rules for the list.
> >
> > But never got round to it.
> >
> > My experience is that strictish rules on forums/lists are seen by a number
> > of people "to be meant to be violated" - perhaps I've just been on all the
> > wrong lists (except Gentoo-users which I've found to be extremely civil in
> > comparison to too many).They also tend to bring forth the controll freaks
> > raving about enforcment of more or less intelligent rules. :(
> > All leading to bandwidth vasting flamewars.
> 
> agreed.  Some folks spend too much time inside the computer bubble
> (where control is absolute and results are black and white).  They then
> think the same strict solution-set can be applied to a group of people
> from all over the world with different personality types.  Isn't it
> "When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail"? :)
> 
> There's something to be said for law & order, especially pertaining to
> maintenance of a civilized society.  However, the assumed caveat is that
> the laws (rules, here) are enforceable.  If there are no means to
> effectively enforce a rule, then the presence of the rule (and
> half-assed attempts to enforce it) are worse than no rule.
> 
> Say there were rules on this list, and someone broke one (eg I said
> "ass" above, oops, I did it again :) ).  What could we do?  blacklist
> the email address?  Anyone got a gmail invite?  We haven't stopped the
> _person_ from posting, just forced them to use a different account.  And
> now they want to make a point.  Well, that's just peachy.  We just made
> the problem worse.
> 
> With the current setup, annoyances pop up, are mostly ignored, then fade
> out.  Effective deployment of the delete key is the best defense, IMO.
> An MUA (like mutt) that threads mail and allows for the deletion of
> entire threads with one keystroke is even better.
> 
> 
> just my $0.02
> 
> Cooper.
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Re: [gentoo-user] MSN

[Keith Gable]

On Apr 7, 2005 2:32 PM, raptor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Does anyone know of messaging client for linux that have support for  :-- MSN application sharing and white board ---tia--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing listNo,
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require reverse-engineering the protocol that's being used (Application
Sharing would probably be harder to port than whiteboard).-- "Microsoft is a lot better at making money than it is at making good operating systems."-- Linus Torvalds

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - sudo doesn't do echo

[Ciaran McCreesh]

On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 08:51:44 -0400 Daniel Westermann-Clark
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| sudo sh -c "echo something >> /etc/portage/package.keywords"

If you've got quotes, or if your input is non-trivial, it's sometimes
easier to do:

echo something | sudo tee -a /etc/portage/package.keywords

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re:USE flags unimportant?

[Richard Fish]

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

>Plus, corporate users want a 
>stable base with years of support contracts, nothing gentoo is suited for.
>  
>

I would say corporate IT _managers_ want this.  Users, as we were
defining them, just want it fixed if it breaks.  Whether the management
decides to hire smart talent to do support internally, or (sadly more
likely these days) outsource it to someone half a world away, doesn't
matter to the user, other than the amount of time it takes to get a
problem fixed.

You are correct though that Gentoo offers nothing that the corporate IT
manager has been fooled into wanting.

OTOH, a significant number of corporate desktops are now leased by the
company instead of purchased.  If a company decided to move to linux,
there is no reason their vendor couldn't start with Gentoo, customize it
for their PCs, and deliver it pre-installed.  The level of control and
customization available (the brochure would say "branding
opportunities") could be attractive to them.

-Richard

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[gentoo-user] How to cause uniq(1) to filter this output ?

[Maxim Vexler]

=
$ man -k mkdir
mkdir(1)  - make directories
mkdir(2)  - create a directory
mkdirhier(1x)  - makes a directory hierarchy
mkdir(1)  - make directories
mkdir(2)  - create a directory
mkdirhier(1x)  - makes a directory hierarchy
mkdir(1)  - make directories
mkdir(2)  - create a directory
mkdirhier(1x)  - makes a directory hierarchy
mkdir(1)  - make directories
mkdir(2)  - create a directory
mkdirhier(1x)  - makes a directory hierarchy
=

I tried to run uniq(1) on it's but because the lines aren't following
(i.e. there are some other lines between them I can't get uniq to
filter the result's).
What can be done ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] what's the use of "etcat use"?

[Frédéric Grosshans]

Le mercredi 06 avril 2005 à 12:46 +0100, Russ Brown a écrit :
> Christoph Gysin wrote:

> 
> $ etcat versions mplayer
> [...]
> $ equery list -p -o mplayer
> [...]
> 
> More keypresses than the etcat form, and I prefer etcat's output format,
> but at least it's possible with equery. Man page still needs fixing
> though. ;-)

Another difference, in etcat's favor, is clear when on look at the gnome
package :

[EMAIL PROTECTED] grosshans $ etcat -v gnome
[ Results for search key   : gnome ]
[ Candidate applications found : 10 ]

 Only printing found installed programs.

*  gnome-base/gnome :
[   ] 1.4-r3 (1.4)
[   ] 2.6 (2.0)
[   ] 2.6.2-r1 (2.0)
[   ] 2.8.0-r1 (2.0)
[   ] 2.8.1-r1 (2.0)
[  I] 2.8.2 (2.0)
[M~ ] 2.8.3_pre0 (2.0)
[M~ ] 2.8.3 (2.0)
[M~ ] 2.8.3-r1 (2.0)
[M~ ] 2.10_pre0 (2.0)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] grosshans $ equery l -p -o gnome
[ Searching for package 'gnome' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] app-admin/gnome-system-tools-1.0.2-r1 (0)
[I--] [  ] app-pda/gnome-pilot-2.0.10-r1 (0)
[I--] [  ] app-pda/gnome-pilot-conduits-2.0.10-r1 (0)
[I--] [  ] app-text/gnome-spell-1.0.5-r2 (1)
[I--] [  ] dev-dotnet/gnome-sharp-1.0.6 (1)
[I--] [  ] dev-python/gnome-python-2.6.1 (2)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-2.8.2 (2.0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.8.2 (2)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-common-2.4.0 (2)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.8.1 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.4.0 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2 (1)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.2 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-panel-1.4.2-r2 (1.4)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-panel-2.8.2 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-print-0.37 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-session-2.8.1 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.8.4-r1 (2)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-1.0.5-r3 (1)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-volume-manager-1.0.2-r1 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-extra/gnome-audio-2.0.0 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-extra/gnome-games-2.8.2 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-extra/gnome-media-2.8.0 (2)
[I--] [  ] gnome-extra/gnome-network-1.0.2-r1 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-extra/gnome-system-monitor-2.8.1-r1 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-extra/gnome-utils-2.8.1 (0)
[I--] [  ] net-analyzer/gnome-netstatus-2.8.0 (0)
[I--] [  ] net-print/gnome-cups-manager-0.28 (0)
[I--] [  ] x11-terms/gnome-terminal-2.8.2 (0)
[I--] [  ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.8.0 (0)
[I--] [  ] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.8.1 (0)
 * Portage tree (/usr/portage)
[-P-] [  ] app-accessibility/gnome-mag-0.11.10 (1)
[-P-] [  ] app-accessibility/gnome-mag-0.11.14 (1)
[-P-] [M~] app-accessibility/gnome-mag-0.12.0 (1)
[-P-] [  ] app-accessibility/gnome-mag-0.10.11 (1)
[-P-] [M~] app-accessibility/gnome-speech-0.3.6 (1)
[-P-] [  ] app-accessibility/gnome-speech-0.3.2-r1 (1)
[-P-] [M~] app-admin/gnome-system-tools-1.2.0 (0)
[-P-] [  ] app-admin/gnome-system-tools-1.0.0 (0)
[-P-] [  ] app-editors/gnome-chord-0.7.0 (0)
[-P-] [M~] app-pda/gnome-pilot-2.0.12 (0)
[-P-] [  ] app-pda/gnome-pilot-0.1.65-r5 (0)
[-P-] [  ] app-pda/gnome-pilot-0.1.71 (0)
[-P-] [  ] app-pda/gnome-pilot-conduits-0.9 (0)
[-P-] [M~] app-pda/gnome-pilot-conduits-2.0.12 (0)
[-P-] [M~] app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.1.3 (0)
[-P-] [  ] app-text/gnome-spell-0.5 (0)
[-P-] [M~] app-text/gnome-spell-1.0.5-r1 (1)
[-P-] [  ] app-text/gnome-spell-1.0.5 (1)
[-P-] [M~] dev-cpp/gnome-vfsmm-2.6.1 (1.1)
[-P-] [  ] dev-cpp/gnome-vfsmm-1.3.5 (1.0)
[-P-] [  ] dev-dotnet/gnome-sharp-1.0.4 (1)
[-P-] [M~] dev-dotnet/gnome-sharp-1.9.2 (2)
[-P-] [M~] dev-dotnet/gnome-sharp-1.0.8 (1)
[-P-] [  ] dev-python/gnome-python-1.4.4 (1)
[-P-] [  ] dev-python/gnome-python-1.4.4-r1 (1)
[-P-] [  ] dev-python/gnome-python-1.4.2 (1)
[-P-] [  ] dev-python/gnome-python-2.0.0 (2)
[-P-] [M~] dev-python/gnome-python-2.0.2 (2)
[-P-] [  ] dev-python/gnome-python-2.0.0-r1 (2)
[-P-] [  ] games-mud/gnome-mud-0.10.5 (0)
[-P-] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-2.6.2-r1 (2.0)
[-P-] [M~] gnome-base/gnome-2.8.3_pre0 (2.0)
[-P-] [M~] gnome-base/gnome-2.8.3-r1 (2.0)
[-P-] [M~] gnome-base/gnome-2.10_pre0 (2.0)
[-P-] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-2.6 (2.0)
[-P-] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-1.4-r3 (1.4)
[-P-] [M~] gnome-base/gnome-2.8.3 (2.0)
[-P-] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-2.8.0-r1 (2.0)
[-P-] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-2.8.1-r1 (2.0)
[-P-] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.8.0 (2)
[-P-] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.6.2 (2)
[-P-] [M~] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.10.0 (2)
[-P-] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.8.1.1 (2)
[-P-] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-1.4.0.5 (1)
[-P-] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.4.2 (2)
[-P-] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-common-1.2.4-r3 (2)
[-P-] [M~] gnome-base/gnome-common-2.8.0 (2)
[-P-] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-core-1.4.2-r1 (0)
[-P-] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-core-1.4.0.8 (0)
[-P-] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-core-1.4.1 (0)
[-P-] [M~] gnome-base/gnome-core-1.4.2 (0)
[-P-] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.6.2 (0)
[-P-] [M~] gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.8.3 (0)
[-P-] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.8.0 (0)
[-P-] [M~] gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2

Re: [gentoo-user] How to cause uniq(1) to filter this output ?

[David Morgan]

On 19:43 Fri 08 Apr , Maxim Vexler wrote:
> =
> $ man -k mkdir
> mkdir(1)  - make directories
> mkdir(2)  - create a directory
> mkdirhier(1x)  - makes a directory hierarchy
> mkdir(1)  - make directories
> mkdir(2)  - create a directory
> mkdirhier(1x)  - makes a directory hierarchy
> mkdir(1)  - make directories
> mkdir(2)  - create a directory
> mkdirhier(1x)  - makes a directory hierarchy
> mkdir(1)  - make directories
> mkdir(2)  - create a directory
> mkdirhier(1x)  - makes a directory hierarchy
> =
> 
> I tried to run uniq(1) on it's but because the lines aren't following
> (i.e. there are some other lines between them I can't get uniq to
> filter the result's).
> What can be done ?
> 

man -k mkdir | sort | uniq ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Don't buy from NETGEAR

[Keith Gable]

On Apr 5, 2005 5:56 PM, Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I've been screwed over by Netgear for being a Linux user and I need tospread the word.  I've been having a seriously difficult time gettingmy Gentoo machines reliably connected to my wireless network foralmost 6 months.  The software end of things is finally rock solid andI now realize that one of my 3 wireless cards works only sometimes.Luckily, I have two of that card.  One copy works every time in twodifferent machines and the other works sometimes in them.Very long story short, they will not replace my bad card because Ican't try it in Windows.  I even explained to them that I bought 3Netgear wireless cards and one Netgear router through Dell 6 monthsago.  Even after a lot of yelling and bad noise they would not budge.The rep said he agreed with me but that that it is out of his hands.He also would not put me on the phone with his supervisor.- Grant--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Kind of requires you to know Windows, but you could lie to them. I do
it to Earthlink all the time (their dialin server doesn't work well).

That said, I have a Belkin F5D6001v3 that broke, and they replaced it
free. They didn't ask very many questions at all. And when the WLAN
router broke, the technician didn't deny me support when I said that my
workstation uses Linux.

I'm not going to recommend them, since all of the crap I've bought from
them has broke, but they do have a lifetime warranty with free
replacement. So, if you're okay with replacing your hardware every 9-12
months for free, sure, go with them.

And in my experience, Netgear blows. Even on Windows.-- "Microsoft is a lot better at making money than it is at making good operating systems."-- Linus Torvalds

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Docs & FAQ: Rules Suggestion

[Martoni]

On Apr 8, 2005 5:19 PM, Shawn Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I think using the word "rules" might have been a poor choice of words(on my part) :)...I think more so what I was thinking of wasguidelines for posting...To that end I think Nick Rout made the bestsuggestion...ESRs doc on how to ask a question ;) Most Unix Geeks willappreciate that one :)...
I re-read it. It has grown somewhat since I saw it last time.
Still like it though :)
Regards,Martin S

Re: [gentoo-user] How to cause uniq(1) to filter this output ?

[Bastian Balthazar Bux]

Maxim Vexler wrote:
=
$ man -k mkdir
mkdir(1)  - make directories
mkdir(2)  - create a directory
mkdirhier(1x)  - makes a directory hierarchy
mkdir(1)  - make directories
mkdir(2)  - create a directory
mkdirhier(1x)  - makes a directory hierarchy
mkdir(1)  - make directories
mkdir(2)  - create a directory
mkdirhier(1x)  - makes a directory hierarchy
mkdir(1)  - make directories
mkdir(2)  - create a directory
mkdirhier(1x)  - makes a directory hierarchy
=
I tried to run uniq(1) on it's but because the lines aren't following
(i.e. there are some other lines between them I can't get uniq to
filter the result's).
What can be done ?
Thank you.
#sort a | uniq
mkdir(1)  - make directories
mkdir(2)  - create a directory
mkdirhier(1x)  - makes a directory hierarchy

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to cause uniq(1) to filter this output ?

[Ciaran McCreesh]

On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:43:33 +0300 Maxim Vexler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| I tried to run uniq(1) on it's but because the lines aren't following
| (i.e. there are some other lines between them I can't get uniq to
| filter the result's).

sort -u

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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/dsp: No such device... but mplayer has sound?

[Richard Fish]

daniel wrote:

>I just installed Amarok (I don't use arts) and it kept failing with this 
>error:
>
>  [GStreamer Error] ALSA device "default" is already in use by another program
>  
>
I'm a heavy amarok user, and just recently spent many, many, many hours
playing with alsa, arts, jackd, esd, gstreamer, etc, etc to get my
system sound setup and working correctly.  The main thing for me was I
wanted to be able to have other applications generate sound at the same
time as amarok was playing music, with decent sound quality, etc.

My final configuration was using the xine engine in amarok (which sounds
great to me, BTW), using the ALSA dmix plugin for the 'default' device,
and arts for KDE and VMWare audio.

I really do *not* recommend GStreamer at this time...it was too unstable
for me.  It will consume 100% of the CPU cycles when the music is paused
(playing is fine...), and will interact badly with dmix if you decide to
go that route.

Now to answer your question, the /dev/dsp devices are only used for the
'OSS' audio API.  A native ALSA application will not use this API, it
will use alsalib and an internal alsa device called (normally) "hw:0,0".

When you played music with mplayer, it used the "[alsa]" driver.  So you
know that the alsa drivers are installed and functional. 

IF you need to run an application that only knows OSS (/dev/dsp), you
will need to modprobe 'snd_pcm_oss'.  If you don't have that built,
reconfigure your kernel with CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL and CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS.

However, neither the GStreamer engine nor xine should require this OSS
API or device node...they should be able to use the same ALSA device as
mplayer.  So, if you have a ~/.asoundrc file, try renaming that to
~/.asoundrc.sav, and try again.  This file can be used to setup the
"default" device that GStreamer was complaining about, and maybe you
have a problem in that.

As a last resort, if you configure the GStreamer engine, you can specify
a device to use with alsasink.  Try entering "hw:0,0" there, and see
what happens.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Don't buy from NETGEAR

[A. Khattri]

On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Keith Gable wrote:

> And in my experience, Netgear blows. Even on Windows.

Ive been using Netgear hubs/switches and a wifi AP at home without any
problems ever.


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RE: [gentoo-user] How to cause uniq(1) to filter this output ?

[Dave Nebinger]

> #man -k mkdir | sort a | uniq
> 
> mkdir(1)  - make directories
> mkdir(2)  - create a directory
> mkdirhier(1x)  - makes a directory hierarchy

Sure, this kind of thing will work, but there's still a fundamental question
at work here...

Why does makewhatis generate all of these duplicates in the first place?
Gentoo is the first distribution that I've seen that this occurs on.  Is
this a configuration thing?  Or is there something else at work here?



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Re: [gentoo-user] fsck problems

[Richard Fish]

Dave Weaver wrote:

>If I run 'fsck -n /dev/hda3'  I'm told that there are some errors:
>
>  fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
>  e2fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
>  Warning!  /dev/hda3 is mounted.
>  /dev/hda3 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.
>  
>

Running fsck on a filesystem mounted read/write is not a good idea, and
is almost guaranteed to report problems.

Try remounting it read-only first. (mount / -o remount,ro).  You should
probably only do that from single user mode, after unmounting all other
filesystems except /proc, /sys and /dev.

-Richard



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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless switches off when I run laptop on the battery

[Richard Fish]

William Kenworthy wrote:

>iwconfig eth2 power off # card is on
>  
>

Now _that_ is a usability issue! :->



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RE: [gentoo-user] {OT} Don't buy from NETGEAR

[Dave Nebinger]

My problem with my netgear dsl modem/router is how difficult it is to script
against...

Even doing simple things like trying to wget the status page in order to
determine what my external ip address is a pain in the ass.

And you really can't script changes to the thing in any way that I could
figure out.

The web interface itself has issues to begin with; the javascript check on
ip addresses entered in the form always tells me it's not formatted
correctly even though I know it is, and it won't let the form save.

Plus every week or so throughput drops from an average 160k/sec down to 3 or
4k which only a router reboot resolves.

Basically I think the things a piece of crap.  I'm anxiously awaiting my pci
adsl card so I can drop the external modem and integrate it into my own
system...



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Re: [gentoo-user] install grub

[Richard Fish]

kitti jaisong wrote:

> follow this line
>
> default 0
> timeout 30
> splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
>
> title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.11-r3
> root (hd0,0)
> kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc
> ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda3 udev
> initrd /initrd-2.6.11-gentoo-r5
>
> I use AMD cpu and Graphics use chisp set VIA tecnology ( VIA KM400A)
> At boot with livecd it can't detect graphics
>

I think you said the kernel begins to boot, but that it hangs very
quickly in the boot process.  You might try adding "noapic" and/or
"acpi=off" to your kernel options.  You might also try "vga=0", which
will start the system in a text console, without trying to use vesa
framebuffer graphics.

kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc
ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda3 udev noapic acpi=off vga=0

I hope this helps.

-Richard
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RE: [gentoo-user] fsck problems

[Dave Nebinger]

> If I run 'fsck -n /dev/hda3'  I'm told that there are some errors:
> 
>   fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
>   e2fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
>   Warning!  /dev/hda3 is mounted.
>   /dev/hda3 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.
>   Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
>   Inode 131170, i_blocks is 64, should be 8.  Fix? no

Because it is mounted you're almost guaranteed to encounter errors.  Try
remounting as read-only if you need to, but...

> However, /dev/hda3 is mounted as my root filesystem, so it's not
> simply a case of unmounting it to run fsck to fix the errors.
> 
> I've tried booting of the Gentoo boot disk, but when I do that fsck
> tells me there are no errors on that partition.
> 
> Why the difference?
> How do I fix the errors?
> Why does fsck tell me that the drive wasn't cleanly unmounted? (I
> always shutdown and restarted the system properly)

fsck'ing from the gentoo disk is the best way to go (that's how I always do
it).

The problem I have sometimes is that I tend to do this, mount the drive to
make some changes, then issue the 'reboot' command w/o unmounting it first.
When I forget to unmount it then I'll typically see the 'not cleanly
unmounted' error (and I say 'duh, well I'll have to do that again...').

Dave


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Re: [gentoo-user] CPU0: Temperature above threshold

[Kiawud]

On Apr 7, 2005 5:36 PM, Andreas Vinsander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kiawud wrote:
> >
> > In any case, check and make sure that the 'fan' module (and possilby
> > the 'thermal' module) is loaded and working.
> 
> Maybe it will help to know that those modules can be found in the ACPI
> section of the kernel config. I even consider it better to compile them
> into the kernel instead of as modules...
> 
Yeah, I suppose that might be helpful to know ;) ...

For some reason, I was thinking he was getting temp errors during the
install of gentoo (like I had).  As such, I had to manually load the
modules before starting the installation.  (It appears the OP had
already installed gentoo and was experiencing this during an emerge).

Guess I hadn't had enough caffeine when responding the first time ... my bad.

-Hani
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Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Don't buy from NETGEAR

[Ric Messier]

On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, A. Khattri wrote:
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Keith Gable wrote:
And in my experience, Netgear blows. Even on Windows.
Ive been using Netgear hubs/switches and a wifi AP at home without any
problems ever.
I never had problems with Netgear gear. Just couldn't get acceptable 
performance out of them. Switches were abysmal. Barely adequate.

Ric
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Re: [gentoo-user] building mousedev as module

[Richard Fish]

Tom Hosiawa wrote:

>Here's what I get when I try to build it
>/root/linuxwacom-0.6.7/src/2.6.11/Makefile:69: *** You requested to
>build mousedev with configure, but mousedev is not a module in your
>kernel config.  Stop.
>  
>

Well I don't use this, but since no one else has chimed in, I'll give
you my best guess.

It looks to me like the wacom drivers are built as replacements of the
in-kernel drivers, which implies that you need to have the in-kernel
drivers built and installed as modules _before_ building the wacom drivers.

You may need to reconfigure and recompile your kernel with
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=m (and probably a few other drivers as well). 
After booting from that, try the wacom configure and build sequence again.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/dsp: No such device... but mplayer has sound?

[Neo Anderson]

On Apr 9, 2005 1:13 AM, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:daniel wrote:>I just installed Amarok (I don't use arts) and it kept failing with this>error:>>  [GStreamer Error] ALSA device "default" is already in use by another program>>I'm a heavy amarok user, and just recently spent many, many, many hoursplaying with alsa, arts, jackd, esd, gstreamer, etc, etc to get mysystem sound setup and working correctly.  The main thing for me was Iwanted to be able to have other applications generate sound at the sametime as amarok was playing music, with decent sound quality, etc.My final configuration was using the xine engine in amarok (which soundsgreat to me, BTW), using the ALSA dmix plugin for the 'default' device,and arts for KDE and VMWare audio.I really do *not* recommend GStreamer at this time...it was too unstablefor me.  It will consume 100% of the CPU cycles when the music is paused(playing is fine...), and will interact badly with dmix if you decide togo that route.Now to answer your question, the /dev/dsp devices are only used for the'OSS' audio API.  A native ALSA application will not use this API, itwill use alsalib and an internal alsa device called (normally) "hw:0,0".When you played music with mplayer, it used the "[alsa]" driver.  So youknow that the alsa drivers are installed and functional.IF you need to run an application that only knows OSS (/dev/dsp), youwill need to modprobe 'snd_pcm_oss'.  If you don't have that built,reconfigure your kernel with CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL and CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS.However, neither the GStreamer engine nor xine should require this OSSAPI or device node...they should be able to use the same ALSA device asmplayer.  So, if you have a ~/.asoundrc file, try renaming that to~/.asoundrc.sav, and try again.  This file can be used to setup the"default" device that GStreamer was complaining about, and maybe youhave a problem in that.As a last resort, if you configure the GStreamer engine, you can specifya device to use with alsasink.  Try entering "hw:0,0" there, and seewhat happens.-Richard--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing listsorry
for jump in in the middle. I was trying to do what you've done, setting
up alsa dmix. I followed that howto at gentoo-wiki, now mplayer and
beep-media-player seems working fine, but xine is not, I don't know
what's wrong with it, I chose the alsa output plugin and leave
everything else as default, but I still can't have other sounds when
xine is playing. in mplayer and bmp I use "dmixer" as the output
plugin, I tried to do the same to xine, however it just made things
worse, an error complaining about output device wrong came up. what can
I do?
thanx-- http://zeegeek.blogspot.comhttp://ihome.ust.hk/~cs_snx/blog/ (for mainland)

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Don't buy from NETGEAR

[Philippe Gagnon]

Dave Nebinger wrote:
My problem with my netgear dsl modem/router is how difficult it is to script
against...
Even doing simple things like trying to wget the status page in order to
determine what my external ip address is a pain in the ass.
And you really can't script changes to the thing in any way that I could
figure out.
The web interface itself has issues to begin with; the javascript check on
ip addresses entered in the form always tells me it's not formatted
correctly even though I know it is, and it won't let the form save.
Plus every week or so throughput drops from an average 160k/sec down to 3 or
4k which only a router reboot resolves.
Basically I think the things a piece of crap.  I'm anxiously awaiting my pci
adsl card so I can drop the external modem and integrate it into my own
system...

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to cause uniq(1) to filter this output ?

[Maxim Vexler]

On Apr 8, 2005 8:19 PM, Dave Nebinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > #man -k mkdir | sort a | uniq
> >
> > mkdir(1)  - make directories
> > mkdir(2)  - create a directory
> > mkdirhier(1x)  - makes a directory hierarchy
> 
> Sure, this kind of thing will work, but there's still a fundamental question
> at work here...
> 
> Why does makewhatis generate all of these duplicates in the first place?
> Gentoo is the first distribution that I've seen that this occurs on.  Is
> this a configuration thing?  Or is there something else at work here?


All I can say is that from my point of view, I haven't done anything
to break it & the man pages are not double installed.

$ locate mkdir | grep "/usr/share/man/"
/usr/share/man/man1/mkdir.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/mkdirhier.1x.gz
/usr/share/man/man1p/mkdir.1p.gz
/usr/share/man/man2/mkdir.2.gz
/usr/share/man/man3p/mkdir.3p.gz

Also the number of emerges to same the same package doesn't affect it either.


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Re: [gentoo-user] How to cause uniq(1) to filter this output ?

[Maxim Vexler]

On Apr 8, 2005 7:51 PM, David Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 19:43 Fri 08 Apr , Maxim Vexler wrote:
> > =
> > $ man -k mkdir
> > mkdir(1)  - make directories
> > mkdir(2)  - create a directory
> > mkdirhier(1x)  - makes a directory hierarchy
> > mkdir(1)  - make directories
> > mkdir(2)  - create a directory
> > mkdirhier(1x)  - makes a directory hierarchy
> > mkdir(1)  - make directories
> > mkdir(2)  - create a directory
> > mkdirhier(1x)  - makes a directory hierarchy
> > mkdir(1)  - make directories
> > mkdir(2)  - create a directory
> > mkdirhier(1x)  - makes a directory hierarchy
> > =
> >
> > I tried to run uniq(1) on it's but because the lines aren't following
> > (i.e. there are some other lines between them I can't get uniq to
> > filter the result's).
> > What can be done ?
> >
> 
> man -k mkdir | sort | uniq ?
> 
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> 
> --
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> 
> 

Yes of curse, So simple.
Thank you.

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RE: [gentoo-user] How to cause uniq(1) to filter this output ?

[Dave Nebinger]

> All I can say is that from my point of view, I haven't done anything
> to break it & the man pages are not double installed.

Sorry, Maxim, I wasn't trying to infer that you had done anything to make
this happen.  Same thing occurs on my gentoo boxen.  It's only a minor
annoyance so I haven't posted anything about it before now.

But since you started the thread, I figured it was a good time to bring it
up.


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Re: [gentoo-user] How to cause uniq(1) to filter this output ?

[Bastian Balthazar Bux]

Dave Nebinger wrote:
All I can say is that from my point of view, I haven't done anything
to break it & the man pages are not double installed.

Sorry, Maxim, I wasn't trying to infer that you had done anything to make
this happen.  Same thing occurs on my gentoo boxen.  It's only a minor
annoyance so I haven't posted anything about it before now.
But since you started the thread, I figured it was a good time to bring it
up.
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# whereis mkdir
mkdir:
/bin/mkdir
/usr/bin/mkdir
/usr/X11R6/bin/mkdir
/usr/bin/X11/mkdir
/usr/man/man1/mkdir.1.gz
/usr/man/man2/mkdir.2.gz
/usr/man/man1p/mkdir.1p.gz
/usr/man/man3p/mkdir.3p.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/mkdir.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man2/mkdir.2.gz
/usr/share/man/man1p/mkdir.1p.gz
/usr/share/man/man3p/mkdir.3p.gz

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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/dsp: No such device... but mplayer has sound?

[Richard Fish]

Neo Anderson wrote:

> sorry for jump in in the middle. I was trying to do what you've done,
> setting up alsa dmix. I followed that howto at gentoo-wiki, now
> mplayer and beep-media-player seems working fine, but xine is not, I
> don't know what's wrong with it, I chose the alsa output plugin and
> leave everything else as default, but I still can't have other sounds
> when xine is playing. in mplayer and bmp I use "dmixer" as the output
> plugin, I tried to do the same to xine, however it just made things
> worse, an error complaining about output device wrong came up. what
> can I do?
> thanx
>

No problem, but next time, remember snip a bit from my email.  My emails
are too damn long to be quoted in full! ;->

I just tried setting my 'mono' and 'stereo' audio devices in xine to
"dmixer", and didn't seem to have any problem with it.  This is not what
I normally do though...I setup the default alsa device to be "dmixer"
with an entry like this in my ~/.asoundrc file:

pcm.!default {
type plug
slave.pcm "dmixer"
}

This way every alsa application uses dmixer...no app-specific
configuration required.

But, are you by any chance using something greater than "stereo 2.0"
speaker configuration in xine (5.1 surround, for example?).

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Docs & FAQ: Rules Suggestion

[Jason Cooper]

Shawn Singh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> I think using the word "rules" might have been a poor choice of words
> (on my part) :)...I think more so what I was thinking of was
> guidelines for posting...To that end I think Nick Rout made the best
> suggestion...ESRs doc on how to ask a question ;) Most Unix Geeks will
> appreciate that one :)...
> 
> Reference:
> 
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

ahh, I can see clearly now.  I haven't seen ESR's faq refered to in a
while.  Good stuff.  It seems in recent years to have been cooked down 
to "google for it."  Don't know wether that's good or bad. :)

Cooper.
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Re: [gentoo-user] fsck problems

[A. Khattri]

On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Dave Weaver wrote:

> I've tried booting of the Gentoo boot disk, but when I do that fsck
> tells me there are no errors on that partition.
>
> Why the difference?
> How do I fix the errors?
> Why does fsck tell me that the drive wasn't cleanly unmounted? (I
> always shutdown and restarted the system properly)

You should only fsck with the disks unmounted and usually from single-user
mode. So its possible there is nothing wrong with your disks.

I seem to remember there is a way of forcing the system to run a full fsck
during boot by creating /forcefsck (i.e. "touch /forcefsck") and then
editing /etc/fstab and changing the last number on the line to a '1' for
the file system you want to check. (I hope I remembered that correctly -
someone correct me if its wrong).


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[gentoo-user] arts runs cpu overload and kills

[Michael W. Holdeman]

Suddenly after a porwe-failure on my laptop and a reboot, with what seemed 
successful restart now after starting kde-3.4 the cpu load is really high 
untill I get an error stating that there is a cpu overload having to do with 
arts? 
No sound in kde, has something to do with knotify. Anybody else have anything 
here like this?

Mike
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RE: [gentoo-user] How to cause uniq(1) to filter this output ?

[Dave Nebinger]

> # whereis mkdir
> mkdir:
> /bin/mkdir
> /usr/bin/mkdir
> /usr/X11R6/bin/mkdir
> /usr/bin/X11/mkdir
> /usr/man/man1/mkdir.1.gz
> /usr/man/man2/mkdir.2.gz
> /usr/man/man1p/mkdir.1p.gz
> /usr/man/man3p/mkdir.3p.gz
> /usr/share/man/man1/mkdir.1.gz
> /usr/share/man/man2/mkdir.2.gz
> /usr/share/man/man1p/mkdir.1p.gz
> /usr/share/man/man3p/mkdir.3p.gz

Sure, the dups from /usr/man in /usr/share/man makes sense because /usr/man
is a soft link to /usr/share/man.

Looking in /etc/man.conf I see that I have both /usr/man and /usr/share/man
in it.

I removed the /usr/man and /usr/local/man entries, but I still get the dups.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re:USE flags unimportant?

[Alec Shaner]

Mark Knecht wrote:

[snip]

> My point was really NOT that the concept of USE flags is unimportant.
> It's that the values that are set for each flag is not overly
> important for the average user. Like most things in life probably 90%
> of the Gentoo boxes out there use some common small set of flags.
> Software compiles. We users are happy.

I manage 4 gentoo machines that all serve very different purposes and I
rarely make any changes at all to the USE flags on any of them. But what
I do take the time to do is set the inital USE flags I want upon each
installation. But it's nothing major or detailed, just basic settings
like whether I want gnome or KDE support, or no X at all. So I agree
with what you are saying in concept, but I think what the others are
saying is that USE flags are critical because they come in to play every
time you do any updates/installs of gentoo packages. For example, I may
never change the USE flags on my server, but they are extremely
important because they help assure I never waste time or space
installing or updating X, KDE, Gnome, etc., and that I always have the
proper (and hopefully non conflicting) support compiled into my
services. I guess I've always considered myself an 'average user'
because I don't do thinks like mess with ebuilds, use portage overlay,
etc. I just install the stuff I need and I'm happy.
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Re: [gentoo-user] CPU0: Temperature above threshold

[Zander Z365]

Ok.  I'm not sure but I think my cpu/fan is working properly.  Here is
what I did:

First, I checked my kernel and I already had all of those features
enabled.   So then I thought I would try disabling SMP.  This was
enabled because I have an P4 processor with HT technology.  After
booting the uniprocessor kernel I successfully did an emerge without
my cpu overheating.

Is there a command line tool that I can use that will display my CPU
temperature and fan speed?  I would like to test it on both kernels.



On Apr 8, 2005 1:52 PM, Kiawud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 7, 2005 5:36 PM, Andreas Vinsander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Kiawud wrote:
> > >
> > > In any case, check and make sure that the 'fan' module (and possilby
> > > the 'thermal' module) is loaded and working.
> >
> > Maybe it will help to know that those modules can be found in the ACPI
> > section of the kernel config. I even consider it better to compile them
> > into the kernel instead of as modules...
> >
> Yeah, I suppose that might be helpful to know ;) ...
> 
> For some reason, I was thinking he was getting temp errors during the
> install of gentoo (like I had).  As such, I had to manually load the
> modules before starting the installation.  (It appears the OP had
> already installed gentoo and was experiencing this during an emerge).
> 
> Guess I hadn't had enough caffeine when responding the first time ... my bad.
> 
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[gentoo-user] smbmount problem

[Leo]

Hi:
I've been trying to access a Windows 2000 server shared folder in linux. 
   I can mount the ///d$ drive
I can see most of the accented characters correctly.

I have googled the codepage used by MS (cp850, cp860 also works) and have 
their respective NLS kernel modules available.

My mount command is:
mount -t smbfs -o username=leo,codepage=cp850,iocharset=iso8859-1 \ 
//

Á (A acute), ã (a tilde) and õ (o tilde) appear incorrectly ( as A, a and o 
(no accents))

AFAIK all other accented characters appear correctly.
smbclient's ftp like interface displays the characters without any problems.
I mailed the folks at the samba list and was refered to the kernel guys, I 
think they where too busy to reply :(  Anyway I tought I might try this list)

Any ideas as to how I might make this work?
TIA
Leo

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Re: [gentoo-user] CPU0: Temperature above threshold

[Kiawud]

On Apr 8, 2005 2:20 PM, Zander Z365 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a command line tool that I can use that will display my CPU
> temperature and fan speed?  I would like to test it on both kernels.

If your system reports cpu temps, you can look in the following dir:

/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/

Some systems have multiple zones and you can just:

#cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ1/temperature  
temperature: 50 C

Same thing with the fan (check '/proc/acpi/fan/XXX/state').

Of course, this depends on ACPI being enabled.

-Hani
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[gentoo-user] ssh - temporary lock if too many login attempts?

[A. Khattri]

Was wondering if there's a way to put a temporary lock on account if there
are too many login failures? By temporary I mean locked for a certain
period of time. (This is for ssh BTW).


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Re: [gentoo-user] CPU0: Temperature above threshold

[Bradley Krumme]

Zander Z365 wrote:

>Ok.  I'm not sure but I think my cpu/fan is working properly.  Here is
>what I did:
>
>First, I checked my kernel and I already had all of those features
>enabled.   So then I thought I would try disabling SMP.  This was
>enabled because I have an P4 processor with HT technology.  After
>booting the uniprocessor kernel I successfully did an emerge without
>my cpu overheating.
>
>Is there a command line tool that I can use that will display my CPU
>temperature and fan speed?  I would like to test it on both kernels.
>
>
>
>On Apr 8, 2005 1:52 PM, Kiawud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>On Apr 7, 2005 5:36 PM, Andreas Vinsander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Kiawud wrote:
>>>  
>>>
In any case, check and make sure that the 'fan' module (and possilby
the 'thermal' module) is loaded and working.


>>>Maybe it will help to know that those modules can be found in the ACPI
>>>section of the kernel config. I even consider it better to compile them
>>>into the kernel instead of as modules...
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>Yeah, I suppose that might be helpful to know ;) ...
>>
>>For some reason, I was thinking he was getting temp errors during the
>>install of gentoo (like I had).  As such, I had to manually load the
>>modules before starting the installation.  (It appears the OP had
>>already installed gentoo and was experiencing this during an emerge).
>>
>>Guess I hadn't had enough caffeine when responding the first time ... my bad.
>>
>>-Hani
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>  
>
Being a new Alienware, I'd think that it should have thermal sensors on
the motherboard.  Check out lm_sensors for monitoring your fan
speeds/processor & system temperatures.

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[gentoo-user] /etc/make.profile again

[Brett I. Holcomb]

As many did I followed the instructions to upgrade to the new 2005.0 
profile and symlinked to /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0.

As has happened to many an emerge -uD system -p tells me it wants to merge 
the 2.4 kernel. Well, I'm on 2.6.11-gentoo-r5 and have been on 2.6 for 
months.  I checked the mail list archives and the forums and found no 
answers there - well a lot of discussion but no real answer - Some said 
why is it a problem, others had explanations but no answers.  I did 
discover that if I symlink to /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/ I 
don't get the error message but will that break something??

In short - it appears following the instructions breaks things (else why 
have a 2.4 kernel recommended on a 2.6 system??) but is there a real fix 
for this problem yet so portage will realize I don't want or need the 2.4 
kernels?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

[Eric S. Johansson]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 16:03:53 -0400, Eric S. Johansson wrote:

Seriously, I have a half a dozen machines running here and the fact that
I have to spend hours every couple of weeks to update

Why does it take hours to type "emerge world -uavD", review the results
and press Enter? Gentoo is a prime example of why the command line can be
more efficient than a GUI.
how well does that scale?  Assume ten machines.  Then you have ten 
windows open, ten machines running updates and then when they are all 
done, ten machines updating their configurations.  Now, multiply by 10 
to 100 machines or even more.  Of all the distributions gentoo has the 
greatest possibility of surviving that scaling without needing a 
forklift but it sure needs a significant amount of transparent automation.

there are hours sometimes especially one of the bit pigs (glibc/xorg) 
need recompiling and I need to check in periodically to make sure 
nothing failed.

as a stated earlier, I think there are ways of making configuration file 
updates much more automatic and reliable.  I've been experimenting with 
dispatch-conf and while it is better than etc-update it still can 
viciously bite the expert.

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Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/make.profile again

[Bastian Balthazar Bux]

[snip]
answered on gentoo-dev
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[gentoo-user] vmware-workstation

[Bruno Lustosa]

Well, I performed the upgrade through emerge -u world, and now I need
a new license to use my virtual machines.
To make matters worse, I can't even downgrade it. This is the output:

emerge vmware-workstation
Calculating dependencies ...done!
>>> emerge (1 of 1) app-emulation/vmware-workstation-4.5.2.8848-r5 to /
>>> md5 src_uri ;-) VMware-workstation-4.5.2-8848.tar.gz
>>> md5 src_uri ;-) vmware-any-any-update89.tar.gz
>>> md5 src_uri ;-) vmware.png
>>> Unpacking source...
>>> Unpacking VMware-workstation-4.5.2-8848.tar.gz to
/var/tmp/portage/vmware-workstation-4.5.2.8848-r5/work
>>> Unpacking vmware-any-any-update89.tar.gz to
/var/tmp/portage/vmware-workstation-4.5.2.8848-r5/work/vmware-distrib
Updating ../bin/vmnet-bridge ... VMware Workstation 4.5.2 (build-8848)
or VMware GSX Server 3.1.0 (build-9089), now patched
Updating ../lib/bin/vmware-vmx ... VMware Workstation 4.5.2
(build-8848), now patched
Updating ../lib/bin-debug/vmware-vmx ... VMware Workstation 4.5.2
(build-8848), now patched
>>> Source unpacked.
>>> Test phase [not enabled]: app-emulation/vmware-workstation-4.5.2.8848-r5

>>> Install vmware-workstation-4.5.2.8848-r5 into
/var/tmp/portage/vmware-workstation-4.5.2.8848-r5/image/ category
app-emulation
sed: -e expression #1, char 39: unknown option to `s'

!!! ERROR: app-emulation/vmware-workstation-4.5.2.8848-r5 failed.
!!! Function src_install, Line 75, Exitcode 1
!!! Removing rpath
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.


So, anyone has any hint on what to do? I'm pretty much lost on this.
Also, why is portage offering an upgrade that will break things?

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Re: [gentoo-user] learning to write ebuilds, failed to login anonymously into cvs server

[Robert G. Hays]

No, they're actually called Version Control Systems;, frequently 
shortened to VCS's or V.C.S.'s; CVS is just one (brand) of many.

(BTW I don't know exactly what, if anything!, "CVS' stands for -- never 
bothered to learn yet, but 'cvs' *is* a 'vcs'.)
(At Least In English! (my native language) -- I do know that other 
languages order things differently, which may just explain 'cvs'...! :) )

robert.
Mike Turcotte wrote:
Maybe it's a type and he means C.V.S.'s
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-Original Message-
From: Magnus Varmfors [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:25 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] learning to write ebuilds, failed to login
anonymously into cvs server
I'm guessing V.C.S in this case refers to "Version Control System",
which cvs is an example of.
/Magnus
On Apr 7, 2005 4:19 AM, Zhang Weiwu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   

Robert G. Hays wrote:
 

Note if you're not used to V.C.S.'s :: you can get tings without
*officially* checking them out.  There are instructions for the
   

Gentoo
 

version of this somewhere, I suppose.
   

Sorry I completely don't understand what you mean by saying 'V.C.S'
 

?
 

rgh.
   

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Don't buy from NETGEAR

[Robert G. Hays]

Thought ::
Netgear RP114 DSL-router w/4-port LAN  (updated firmware ~~2-3 years ago)
This is about the size of my DSL-modem.
For Windoze 98fe, 98se, & 2k, never even hicoughed, although I have 
certainly had several dsl-modem crash; even then, the LAN side of the NG 
still worked flawlessly, including LAN-dhcp resolution.  This has 
included a number of Linux boxes, too.

But
With Gentoo, I have problems.  Didn't have tcpdump or such avail during 
install, but I suspect that said router does not speak IPv6, and may 
somehow have a problem with massive packets pending.

I guess it depends on what you are trying to do with it.  Sigh.
rgh.
Philippe Gagnon wrote:
Dave Nebinger wrote:
My problem with my netgear dsl modem/router is how difficult it is to 
script
against...

Even doing simple things like trying to wget the status page in order to
determine what my external ip address is a pain in the ass.
And you really can't script changes to the thing in any way that I could
figure out.
The web interface itself has issues to begin with; the javascript 
check on
ip addresses entered in the form always tells me it's not formatted
correctly even though I know it is, and it won't let the form save.

Plus every week or so throughput drops from an average 160k/sec down 
to 3 or
4k which only a router reboot resolves.

Basically I think the things a piece of crap.  I'm anxiously awaiting 
my pci
adsl card so I can drop the external modem and integrate it into my own
system...


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Re: [gentoo-user] learning to write ebuilds, failed to login anonymously into cvs server

[Statux]

Concurrent Versions System

On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 22:19 -0400, Robert G. Hays wrote:
[snip]
> (BTW I don't know exactly what, if anything!, "CVS' stands for -- never 
> bothered to learn yet, but 'cvs' *is* a 'vcs'.)
> (At Least In English! (my native language) -- I do know that other 
> languages order things differently, which may just explain 'cvs'...! :) )


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Re: [gentoo-user] learning to write ebuilds, failed to login anonymously into cvs server

[Robert G. Hays]

Thank you!
rgh.
Statux wrote:
Concurrent Versions System
On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 22:19 -0400, Robert G. Hays wrote:
[snip]
 

(BTW I don't know exactly what, if anything!, "CVS' stands for -- never 
bothered to learn yet, but 'cvs' *is* a 'vcs'.)
(At Least In English! (my native language) -- I do know that other 
languages order things differently, which may just explain 'cvs'...! :) )
   


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[gentoo-user] PCI Conexant ADSL modem - API changes in kernel 2.6.10+

[Stroller]

Hi there,
I feel that posting about such obscure hardware is something of a  
forlorn hope, but all comments gratefully received.

I'm trying to install a Conexant PCI ADSL modem on a Gentoo box using  
the drivers at  
.

The modem works perfectly using the 6.1.2.007-PIM-2.6-1.1 version of  
the driver against the Gentoo sources 2.6.9-r13 kernel (which also seem  
to include suitable ATM libraries) and ppp-2.4.3-r1 with the atm USE  
flag set. A script is provided to load the firmware into the modem, and  
an audible "click" occurs when this is run; the connection status can  
be viewed using `cat /proc/net/atm/CnxAdsl:0` and ppp subsequently  
seems to work - I get allocated an IP address & can ping the Intarweb &  
stuff.

A week or three ago a new version of this driver was released to  
accommodate API changes in kernels later than 2.6.10 (see  
), and it's this one I seem to  
be having problems with. The author reports no problems from anyone  
else, but I get the same thing using Gentoo sources 2.6.10-r6,  
2.6.11-r4 & 2.6.11-r5 and vanilla sources 2.6.11.4 on my Gentoo system:

  # depmod -a CnxADSL
  # modprobe -iv CnxADSL
  insmod /lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r5/extra/CnxADSL.ko
  # /etc/Conexant/cnxadslload /etc/Conexant/
   bad ioctl 400c2502, Status=c0b5
  Last record not found - load terminating
   download ARM micro code (downLoadMicroCode) failed, NTStatus=c001
`dmesg` shows these entries:
  CnxADSL: module license 'unspecified' taints kernel.
  CnxADSL: CnxtDsl_init Starting
  CnxADSL: calBusCtlP46RegisterInterrupt
  CnxADSL: ARMALIoctl TIG_LOAD_START Prepare device for download  
command=1074537729
  CnxADSL: CmgmtProcIOCTL ARM Load command failed, command=1074537730,  
Status=0xc0b5

I have no idea what any of this means.
I'm sure that my newer kernels are built with all the right options and  
each time I have rebuilt the CnxADSL module using `make clean` with the  
`/usr/src/linux` symlink pointing to the right place.

Since the newer driver is required because of an API change in the  
kernel I have tried emerging linux-headers-2.6.11, and subsequently  
remerging glibc, binutils & hotplug, all to no avail.

I'm feeling all pretty stumped on this, so all suggestions gratefully  
received - I've stopped short of  `emerge -e world` because I'm too  
clueless to pin the masked linux-headers-2.6.11 against my otherwise  
stable-x86 system. My best idea right now is to recompile the firmware  
loader with debug enabled & to learn how to use gdb - I haven't used  
that before, so any if anyone can suggest a numpties guide for building  
& debugging kernel modules, then that would be great.

Cheers,
Stroller.
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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/dsp: No such device... but mplayer has sound?

[Neo Anderson]

On Apr 9, 2005 2:30 AM, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:No problem, but next time, remember snip a bit from my email.  My emailsare too damn long to be quoted in full! ;->I just tried setting my 'mono' and 'stereo' audio devices in xine to"dmixer", and didn't seem to have any problem with it.  This is not whatI normally do though...I setup the default alsa device to be "dmixer"with an entry like this in my ~/.asoundrc file:pcm.!default {type plugslave.pcm "dmixer"}This way every alsa application uses dmixer...no app-specificconfiguration required.But, are you by any chance using something greater than "stereo 2.0"speaker configuration in xine (5.1 surround, for example?).-Richard--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing listthanx
a lot, after adding that line, xine works. but I still have to leave
"dmixer" as the output device in mplayer, or the sound quality would be
very poor.

I don't use anything greater than stereo 2.0, most of the time I use earphones or just use the speaker on my laptop.-- http://zeegeek.blogspot.comhttp://ihome.ust.hk/~cs_snx/blog/ (for mainland)