Re: [DISCUSS] Fluo graduation as TLP

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

Hi,

It looks like Fluo is indeed ready to graduate but I have a question
about its dev list usage.

I had a look at the Fluo dev list archive,
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@fluo.apache.org

There's very little going on there in terms of technical discussions
and decisions, most of the traffic (and that's not much) seems to be
about project governance topics.

Can someone from Fluo comment on that vs. "if it didn't happen on the
dev list it didn't happen" ?

Are open asynchronous discussions happening elsewhere, and how do you
see newcomers getting up to speed?

-Bertrand

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[ANNOUNCE] Apache AriaTosca 0.1.0-incubating released

[Ran Ziv]

The Apache AriaTosca (incubating) team is pleased to announce the release
of AriaTosca 0.1.0.

AriaTosca offers an easily consumable SDK and a CLI to implement TOSCA
(Topology and Orchestration Specification of Cloud Applications) based
solutions.

The release is available at:
https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/ariatosca

Thanks,

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While incubation status is not necessarily a reflection of the completeness
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fully endorsed by the ASF.

[ANNOUNCE] Apache Gearpump 0.8.4-incubating Release

[Karol Brejna]

The Apache Gearpump team would like to announce the release of Apache
Gearpump 0.8.4-incubating.

Apache Gearpump (incubating) is a reactive real-time streaming engine based
on the micro-service Actor model. It provides extremely high performance
stream processing while maintaining millisecond latency message delivery.
Apache Gearpump (incubating) enables reusable, composable flows or partial
graphs that can be remotely deployed and executed in a diverse set of
environments. These flows may be deployed and modified at runtime.

More details regarding Apache Gearpump (incubating) can be found here:
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The release artifacts can be downloaded here:
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The ChangeLog can be found here:
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The Maven artifacts are published to
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Re: [DISCUSS] Fluo graduation as TLP

[Christopher]

As a project which was born and raised on GitHub, Fluo makes very heavy use
of the issue tracker for day to day decision making and asyncronous
discussions, using GitHub issues and pull requests. We're a R-t-C
community, and a lot of that discussion occurs during code reviews on the
issue tracker. We've found that works very well. For ASF tracking purposes,
it relies on infra services to CC the notifications list. New users can get
up to speed by looking at the history there, but it's probably much easier
to dive in to the documentation on the website and browse the discussions
on the issue tracker threads.

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017, 07:34 Bertrand Delacretaz 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It looks like Fluo is indeed ready to graduate but I have a question
> about its dev list usage.
>
> I had a look at the Fluo dev list archive,
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@fluo.apache.org
>
> There's very little going on there in terms of technical discussions
> and decisions, most of the traffic (and that's not much) seems to be
> about project governance topics.
>
> Can someone from Fluo comment on that vs. "if it didn't happen on the
> dev list it didn't happen" ?
>
> Are open asynchronous discussions happening elsewhere, and how do you
> see newcomers getting up to speed?
>
> -Bertrand
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Gradute Streams as TLP

[sblackmon]

 
In a discussion [1] on private@streams started on 7/5/17 there was strong 
support from PPMC including 3 mentors for the proposed charter. PPMC members 
not proposed for PMC had a chance to request they be added to proposed PMC, but 
none did.

We plan to push forward and start a VOTE on the matter of graduation today, but 
this DISCUSS will remain open as well for any questions from IPMC.

Steve

[1] 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/dd5f60bfd6ecbd41eca42467f13a10759d2ea9cb3fc2af93ecfefb6c@

On July 5, 2017 at 4:37:47 PM, sblackmon 
(sblack...@apache.org(mailto:sblack...@apache.org)) wrote:

> To Dave’s question about participation, I believe that’s correct. The PPMC 
> members who are not proposed for the PMC have all been wholly inactive for at 
> least year.
>  
> To Dave’s question about commit rights, as a podling we never added any 
> non-PPMC committers, so I personally think it’s appropriate that we would 
> only maintain commit rights for those on the new PMC.  
>  
> I expect the community would welcome any former participants who returned and 
> wanted to contribute again eagerly, and they could regain commit rights in 
> short order.  
> But based on feedback from both of you, I will open a thread on 
> private@streams asking for feedback on the decision everyone on the PPMC. 
> Clearly I should have done that prior to circulating the draft among this 
> group.
>  
> Steve  
>  
> On July 5, 2017 at 4:30:54 PM, John D. Ament 
> (johndam...@apache.org(mailto:johndam...@apache.org)) wrote:
>  
> > So I just went back through the archives. I think I share Dave's concerns
> > about notifying. It looks like the incubator list was the first place the
> > proposed resolution was shared. Would be good to put in front of the
> > private@streams list make sure no one has any concerns with it.
> >  
> > John
> >  
> > On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 4:26 PM Dave Fisher wrote:
> >  
> > > Thanks for clarifying. Does this list correspond to those who have
> > > participated with commits and project work in the last 6 months or year 
> > > who
> > > are PPMC members or committers? Will you continue to allow all current
> > > committers to have commit rights once you go to TLP?
> > >
> > > My concern is anyone losing merit even if it has been a few years. People
> > > come and go. Sometimes people come back after being absent for a couple of
> > > years. One aspect at Apache is that merit does not expire.
> > >
> > > (I am part of OpenOffice where we went from a huge PPMC to a large PMC on
> > > graduation so I feel what you are doing is legitimate.)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On Jul 5, 2017, at 1:19 PM, sblackmon wrote:
> > >
> > > As the PPMC member encouraged to draft the resolution, that was the
> > > condition I decided to apply, after running it by a few others from the
> > > community out-of-band. There was no email thread on the topic, so using
> > > the definition that decisions must be made on the list, this wasn’t a 
> > > group
> > > decision, it was an action by me.
> > >
> > > Sorry for the confusion.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > On July 5, 2017 at 2:45:50 PM, Dave Fisher (dave2w...@comcast.net) wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Steve,
> > >
> > > Where was that decision made? I don’t see that recently in Pony Mail
> > > archives. I don’t see anything wrong with decision I just don’t see any
> > > record of it. Please let us know when it was made and how it was recorded.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > > On Jul 5, 2017, at 12:33 PM, sblackmon wrote:
> > > >
> > > > John,
> > > >
> > > > We decided to propose only PPMC members who voted +1 to the graduation
> > > resolution for the PMC. If that left out anyone harboring a latent plan to
> > > re-engage with the project community, and they let us know on dev@streams,
> > > we’d be happy to add their names onto the resolution.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > On July 5, 2017 at 2:12:53 PM, John D. Ament (johndam...@apache.org)
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Steve,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for drafting this. I see there's a big difference between the
> > > > listed PPMC and the proposed PMC. I'm assuming you've reached out to
> > > those
> > > > excluded and confirmed they're not interested in Streams any longer?
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 2:48 PM sblackmon wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hello,
> > > >>
> > > >> The Streams PPMC has discussed [1] and voted [2] to graduate to TLP.
> > > >>
> > > >> In preparation for an IPMC vote on the matter, we’ve updated our 
> > > >> project
> > >
> > > >> status xml [3] and corresponding whimsy podlingStatus [4], completed an
> > >
> > > >> Apache Maturity Model Assessment [5], and drafted a proposed charter
> > > [6].
> > > >>
> > > >> We’d appreciate any feedback you can provide at this stage to help
> > > ensure
> > > >> the project has all bases covered to become a successful Apache TLP.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thank you for your consideration.
> > > >>
> > > >>

[VOTE] Graduate Apache Streams project from Incubator

[sblackmon]

 
In concert with the discussion started last week [1], please vote on the draft 
resolution which establishes Apache Streams as a new top-level project at the 
Apache Software Foundation, as follows:  

[ ] +1, Graduate Apache Streams from the Incubator.  
[ ] +0, Don't care.  
[ ] -1, Don't graduate Apache Streams from the Incubator (provide details)  

The full text of the resolution is below.  

If approved by the Apache Incubator PMC members, the proposed resolution will 
be submitted to the Board of Directors for their consideration.  

Thanks ! 

[1] 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/60d676ad7b190323f8479bccff8ae996f98bf5fcd0d0ff4d54b71006@

Establish the Apache Streams Project 

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the 
Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project 
Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source 
software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related to 
interoperability of online profiles and activity feeds. 

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to 
be known as the "Apache Streams Project", be and hereby is established pursuant 
to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further 

RESOLVED, that the Apache Streams Project be and hereby is responsible for the 
creation and maintenance of software related to interoperability of online 
profiles and activity feeds; and be it further 

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Streams" be and hereby is 
created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board 
of Directors as the chair of the Apache Streams Project, and to have primary 
responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of 
responsibility of the Apache Streams Project; and be it further 

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed 
to serve as the initial members of the Apache Streams Project:

 * Stephen D Blackmon   
 * Robert Baker Douglas 
 * Ate Douma            
 * Ryan Edward Ebanks   
 * Matt Franklin        
 * Joey Frazee          
 * Trevor Grant         
 * Suneel Marthi        

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Stephen D Blackmon be appointed to 
the office of Vice President, Apache Streams, to serve in accordance with and 
subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the 
Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, 
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further 

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Streams PMC be and hereby is tasked with the 
creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and 
increased participation in the Apache Streams Project; and be it further 

RESOLVED, that the Apache Streams Project be and hereby is tasked with the 
migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Streams podling; and be 
it further 

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator Streams 
podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter discharged.  


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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Streams project from Incubator

[Suneel Marthi]

+1 binding

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 11:09 AM, sblackmon  wrote:

>
> In concert with the discussion started last week [1], please vote on the
> draft resolution which establishes Apache Streams as a new top-level
> project at the Apache Software Foundation, as follows:
>
> [ ] +1, Graduate Apache Streams from the Incubator.
> [ ] +0, Don't care.
> [ ] -1, Don't graduate Apache Streams from the Incubator (provide details)
>
> The full text of the resolution is below.
>
> If approved by the Apache Incubator PMC members, the proposed resolution
> will be submitted to the Board of Directors for their consideration.
>
> Thanks !
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/60d676ad7b190323f8479bccff8ae9
> 96f98bf5fcd0d0ff4d54b71006@
>
> Establish the Apache Streams Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a
> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related
> to interoperability of online profiles and activity feeds.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC),
> to be known as the "Apache Streams Project", be and hereby is established
> pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Streams Project be and hereby is responsible for
> the creation and maintenance of software related to interoperability of
> online profiles and activity feeds; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Streams" be and
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
> of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Streams Project, and
> to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> scope of responsibility of the Apache Streams Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Streams Project:
>
>  * Stephen D Blackmon   
>  * Robert Baker Douglas 
>  * Ate Douma
>  * Ryan Edward Ebanks   
>  * Matt Franklin
>  * Joey Frazee  
>  * Trevor Grant 
>  * Suneel Marthi
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Stephen D Blackmon be
> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Streams, to serve in
> accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and
> the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal
> or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Streams PMC be and hereby is tasked with
> the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and
> increased participation in the Apache Streams Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Streams Project be and hereby is tasked with the
> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Streams podling; and
> be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> Streams podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> discharged.
>
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[Roman Shaposhnik]

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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Streams project from Incubator

[Pierre Smits]

+1

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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Suneel Marthi  wrote:

> +1 binding
>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 11:09 AM, sblackmon  wrote:
>
> >
> > In concert with the discussion started last week [1], please vote on the
> > draft resolution which establishes Apache Streams as a new top-level
> > project at the Apache Software Foundation, as follows:
> >
> > [ ] +1, Graduate Apache Streams from the Incubator.
> > [ ] +0, Don't care.
> > [ ] -1, Don't graduate Apache Streams from the Incubator (provide
> details)
> >
> > The full text of the resolution is below.
> >
> > If approved by the Apache Incubator PMC members, the proposed resolution
> > will be submitted to the Board of Directors for their consideration.
> >
> > Thanks !
> >
> > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/60d676ad7b190323f8479bccff8ae9
> > 96f98bf5fcd0d0ff4d54b71006@
> >
> > Establish the Apache Streams Project
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> a
> > Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> related
> > to interoperability of online profiles and activity feeds.
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> (PMC),
> > to be known as the "Apache Streams Project", be and hereby is established
> > pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Streams Project be and hereby is responsible
> for
> > the creation and maintenance of software related to interoperability of
> > online profiles and activity feeds; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Streams" be and
> > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> direction
> > of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Streams Project, and
> > to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> > scope of responsibility of the Apache Streams Project; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Streams Project:
> >
> >  * Stephen D Blackmon   
> >  * Robert Baker Douglas 
> >  * Ate Douma
> >  * Ryan Edward Ebanks   
> >  * Matt Franklin
> >  * Joey Frazee  
> >  * Trevor Grant 
> >  * Suneel Marthi
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Stephen D Blackmon be
> > appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Streams, to serve in
> > accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors
> and
> > the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement,
> removal
> > or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Streams PMC be and hereby is tasked
> with
> > the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development
> and
> > increased participation in the Apache Streams Project; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Streams Project be and hereby is tasked with
> the
> > migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Streams podling;
> and
> > be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> > Streams podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> > discharged.
> >
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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Streams project from Incubator

[John D. Ament]

+1

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 11:28 AM sblackmon  wrote:

>
> In concert with the discussion started last week [1], please vote on the
> draft resolution which establishes Apache Streams as a new top-level
> project at the Apache Software Foundation, as follows:
>
> [ ] +1, Graduate Apache Streams from the Incubator.
> [ ] +0, Don't care.
> [ ] -1, Don't graduate Apache Streams from the Incubator (provide details)
>
> The full text of the resolution is below.
>
> If approved by the Apache Incubator PMC members, the proposed resolution
> will be submitted to the Board of Directors for their consideration.
>
> Thanks !
>
> [1]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/60d676ad7b190323f8479bccff8ae996f98bf5fcd0d0ff4d54b71006@
> 
>
> Establish the Apache Streams Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a
> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related
> to interoperability of online profiles and activity feeds.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC),
> to be known as the "Apache Streams Project", be and hereby is established
> pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Streams Project be and hereby is responsible for
> the creation and maintenance of software related to interoperability of
> online profiles and activity feeds; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Streams" be and
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
> of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Streams Project, and
> to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> scope of responsibility of the Apache Streams Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Streams Project:
>
>  * Stephen D Blackmon   
>  * Robert Baker Douglas 
>  * Ate Douma
>  * Ryan Edward Ebanks   
>  * Matt Franklin
>  * Joey Frazee  
>  * Trevor Grant 
>  * Suneel Marthi
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Stephen D Blackmon be
> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Streams, to serve in
> accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and
> the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal
> or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Streams PMC be and hereby is tasked with
> the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and
> increased participation in the Apache Streams Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Streams Project be and hereby is tasked with the
> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Streams podling; and
> be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> Streams podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> discharged.
>
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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Streams project from Incubator

[sblackmon]

+1 (binding)

On July 10, 2017 at 10:40:20 AM, John D. Ament (johndam...@apache.org) wrote:
+1 

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 11:28 AM sblackmon  wrote: 

> 
> In concert with the discussion started last week [1], please vote on the 
> draft resolution which establishes Apache Streams as a new top-level 
> project at the Apache Software Foundation, as follows: 
> 
> [ ] +1, Graduate Apache Streams from the Incubator. 
> [ ] +0, Don't care. 
> [ ] -1, Don't graduate Apache Streams from the Incubator (provide details) 
> 
> The full text of the resolution is below. 
> 
> If approved by the Apache Incubator PMC members, the proposed resolution 
> will be submitted to the Board of Directors for their consideration. 
> 
> Thanks ! 
> 
> [1] 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/60d676ad7b190323f8479bccff8ae996f98bf5fcd0d0ff4d54b71006@
>  
>  
> 
> Establish the Apache Streams Project 
> 
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of 
> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a 
> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of 
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related 
> to interoperability of online profiles and activity feeds. 
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), 
> to be known as the "Apache Streams Project", be and hereby is established 
> pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further 
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Streams Project be and hereby is responsible for 
> the creation and maintenance of software related to interoperability of 
> online profiles and activity feeds; and be it further 
> 
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Streams" be and 
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction 
> of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Streams Project, and 
> to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the 
> scope of responsibility of the Apache Streams Project; and be it further 
> 
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are 
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Streams Project: 
> 
> * Stephen D Blackmon  
> * Robert Baker Douglas  
> * Ate Douma  
> * Ryan Edward Ebanks  
> * Matt Franklin  
> * Joey Frazee  
> * Trevor Grant  
> * Suneel Marthi  
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Stephen D Blackmon be 
> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Streams, to serve in 
> accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and 
> the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal 
> or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further 
> 
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Streams PMC be and hereby is tasked with 
> the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and 
> increased participation in the Apache Streams Project; and be it further 
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Streams Project be and hereby is tasked with the 
> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Streams podling; and 
> be it further 
> 
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator 
> Streams podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter 
> discharged. 
> 
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[NOTICE] Migrating to the new Incubator Website Wednesday night

[John D. Ament]

All,

Just as a heads up we will be migrating to the new Incubator website
Wednesday night, 9pm Eastern.  I expect during this time some links may
break and other stuff not work quite right.  Please be patient and shout
out when you see something.

John

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Streams project from Incubator

[Joern Kottmann]

+1

Jörn

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 5:43 PM, sblackmon  wrote:
> +1 (binding)
>
> On July 10, 2017 at 10:40:20 AM, John D. Ament (johndam...@apache.org) wrote:
> +1
>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 11:28 AM sblackmon  wrote:
>
>>
>> In concert with the discussion started last week [1], please vote on the
>> draft resolution which establishes Apache Streams as a new top-level
>> project at the Apache Software Foundation, as follows:
>>
>> [ ] +1, Graduate Apache Streams from the Incubator.
>> [ ] +0, Don't care.
>> [ ] -1, Don't graduate Apache Streams from the Incubator (provide details)
>>
>> The full text of the resolution is below.
>>
>> If approved by the Apache Incubator PMC members, the proposed resolution
>> will be submitted to the Board of Directors for their consideration.
>>
>> Thanks !
>>
>> [1]
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/60d676ad7b190323f8479bccff8ae996f98bf5fcd0d0ff4d54b71006@
>> 
>>
>> Establish the Apache Streams Project
>>
>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a
>> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related
>> to interoperability of online profiles and activity feeds.
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC),
>> to be known as the "Apache Streams Project", be and hereby is established
>> pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Streams Project be and hereby is responsible for
>> the creation and maintenance of software related to interoperability of
>> online profiles and activity feeds; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Streams" be and
>> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
>> of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Streams Project, and
>> to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
>> scope of responsibility of the Apache Streams Project; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Streams Project:
>>
>> * Stephen D Blackmon 
>> * Robert Baker Douglas 
>> * Ate Douma 
>> * Ryan Edward Ebanks 
>> * Matt Franklin 
>> * Joey Frazee 
>> * Trevor Grant 
>> * Suneel Marthi 
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Stephen D Blackmon be
>> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Streams, to serve in
>> accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and
>> the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal
>> or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Streams PMC be and hereby is tasked with
>> the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and
>> increased participation in the Apache Streams Project; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Streams Project be and hereby is tasked with the
>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Streams podling; and
>> be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>> Streams podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
>> discharged.
>>
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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Streams project from Incubator

[P. Taylor Goetz]

+1 (binding)

-Taylor

> On Jul 10, 2017, at 11:09 AM, sblackmon  wrote:
> 
>  
> In concert with the discussion started last week [1], please vote on the 
> draft resolution which establishes Apache Streams as a new top-level project 
> at the Apache Software Foundation, as follows:  
> 
> [ ] +1, Graduate Apache Streams from the Incubator.  
> [ ] +0, Don't care.  
> [ ] -1, Don't graduate Apache Streams from the Incubator (provide details)  
> 
> The full text of the resolution is below.  
> 
> If approved by the Apache Incubator PMC members, the proposed resolution will 
> be submitted to the Board of Directors for their consideration.  
> 
> Thanks ! 
> 
> [1] 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/60d676ad7b190323f8479bccff8ae996f98bf5fcd0d0ff4d54b71006@
> 
> Establish the Apache Streams Project 
> 
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the 
> Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a 
> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of 
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related to 
> interoperability of online profiles and activity feeds. 
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to 
> be known as the "Apache Streams Project", be and hereby is established 
> pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further 
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Streams Project be and hereby is responsible for 
> the creation and maintenance of software related to interoperability of 
> online profiles and activity feeds; and be it further 
> 
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Streams" be and hereby 
> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the 
> Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Streams Project, and to have 
> primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of 
> responsibility of the Apache Streams Project; and be it further 
> 
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are 
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Streams Project:
> 
>  * Stephen D Blackmon   
>  * Robert Baker Douglas 
>  * Ate Douma
>  * Ryan Edward Ebanks   
>  * Matt Franklin
>  * Joey Frazee  
>  * Trevor Grant 
>  * Suneel Marthi
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Stephen D Blackmon be appointed 
> to the office of Vice President, Apache Streams, to serve in accordance with 
> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the 
> Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, 
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further 
> 
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Streams PMC be and hereby is tasked with 
> the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and 
> increased participation in the Apache Streams Project; and be it further 
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Streams Project be and hereby is tasked with the 
> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Streams podling; and be 
> it further 
> 
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator 
> Streams podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter 
> discharged.  
> 
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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Streams project from Incubator

[Debo Dutta (dedutta)]

+1

On 7/10/17, 10:27 AM, "P. Taylor Goetz"  wrote:

+1 (binding)

-Taylor

> On Jul 10, 2017, at 11:09 AM, sblackmon  wrote:
> 
>  
> In concert with the discussion started last week [1], please vote on the 
draft resolution which establishes Apache Streams as a new top-level project at 
the Apache Software Foundation, as follows:  
> 
> [ ] +1, Graduate Apache Streams from the Incubator.  
> [ ] +0, Don't care.  
> [ ] -1, Don't graduate Apache Streams from the Incubator (provide 
details)  
> 
> The full text of the resolution is below.  
> 
> If approved by the Apache Incubator PMC members, the proposed resolution 
will be submitted to the Board of Directors for their consideration.  
> 
> Thanks ! 
> 
> [1] 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/60d676ad7b190323f8479bccff8ae996f98bf5fcd0d0ff4d54b71006@
> 
> Establish the Apache Streams Project 
> 
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of 
the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a 
Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of 
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related to 
interoperability of online profiles and activity feeds. 
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee 
(PMC), to be known as the "Apache Streams Project", be and hereby is 
established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further 
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Streams Project be and hereby is responsible 
for the creation and maintenance of software related to interoperability of 
online profiles and activity feeds; and be it further 
> 
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Streams" be and 
hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of 
the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Streams Project, and to have 
primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of 
responsibility of the Apache Streams Project; and be it further 
> 
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are 
appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Streams Project:
> 
>  * Stephen D Blackmon   
>  * Robert Baker Douglas 
>  * Ate Douma
>  * Ryan Edward Ebanks   
>  * Matt Franklin
>  * Joey Frazee  
>  * Trevor Grant 
>  * Suneel Marthi
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Stephen D Blackmon be 
appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Streams, to serve in 
accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the 
Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or 
disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further 
> 
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Streams PMC be and hereby is tasked 
with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and 
increased participation in the Apache Streams Project; and be it further 
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Streams Project be and hereby is tasked with 
the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Streams podling; and 
be it further 
> 
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator 
Streams podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter 
discharged.  
> 
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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Streams project from Incubator

[Ate Douma]

+1 (binding)

Ate

On 2017-07-10 17:09, sblackmon wrote:
  
In concert with the discussion started last week [1], please vote on the draft resolution which establishes Apache Streams as a new top-level project at the Apache Software Foundation, as follows:


[ ] +1, Graduate Apache Streams from the Incubator.
[ ] +0, Don't care.
[ ] -1, Don't graduate Apache Streams from the Incubator (provide details)

The full text of the resolution is below.

If approved by the Apache Incubator PMC members, the proposed resolution will 
be submitted to the Board of Directors for their consideration.

Thanks !

[1] 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/60d676ad7b190323f8479bccff8ae996f98bf5fcd0d0ff4d54b71006@

Establish the Apache Streams Project

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the 
Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project 
Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source 
software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related to 
interoperability of online profiles and activity feeds.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as 
the "Apache Streams Project", be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws 
of the Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Streams Project be and hereby is responsible for the 
creation and maintenance of software related to interoperability of online 
profiles and activity feeds; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Streams" be and hereby is 
created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of 
Directors as the chair of the Apache Streams Project, and to have primary responsibility 
for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Streams 
Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed 
to serve as the initial members of the Apache Streams Project:

  * Stephen D Blackmon   
  * Robert Baker Douglas 
  * Ate Douma
  * Ryan Edward Ebanks   
  * Matt Franklin
  * Joey Frazee  
  * Trevor Grant 
  * Suneel Marthi

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Stephen D Blackmon be appointed to 
the office of Vice President, Apache Streams, to serve in accordance with and 
subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the 
Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, 
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Streams PMC be and hereby is tasked with the 
creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and 
increased participation in the Apache Streams Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Streams Project be and hereby is tasked with the 
migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Streams podling; and be 
it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator Streams 
podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter discharged.


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[VOTE] Recommend Apache Fluo graduation as TLP to Board

[Christopher]

Hello IPMC,

The recent DISCUSS thread on the topic of Fluo's graduation has been open
for at least 72 hours, and I believe all questions have been answered and
issues addressed at this point.

With the discussion having settled down, I would now like to call for a
recommendation VOTE to present the ASF board with the following resolution
to graduate from incubation and establish Apache Fluo as a top-level
project (TLP).

Incubator DISCUSS thread:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/214424f03d6f7b47f3abc1e3da772627390a07960daa8b95365380bc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
Fluo PPMC DISCUSS thread:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/3164d77ea18c3e36ce215ab4a07b2cb80cf9c49c2503ef5d1defbdde@%3Cdev.fluo.apache.org%3E
Fluo PPMC internal VOTE thread:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/04a9de260fcd14b184ae7a8b725e348e13ee4ad10e3057a6a404732c@%3Cprivate.fluo.apache.org%3E
Fluo Podling Status page: https://incubator.apache.org/projects/fluo

Please vote on whether to recommend the following graduation resolution to
the ASF Board.

[  ]  +1, In favor of recommending the following graduation resolution to
the ASF Board to establish Apache Fluo as a TLP
[  ]  +0, Neither opposed to, nor in favor of, recommending the following
graduation resolution to the Board
[  ]  -1, Opposed to recommending the following graduation resolution to
the Board

This VOTE will be open for at least 72 hours.

***Resolution:

Establish the Apache Fluo Project

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
related to the storage and incremental processing of large data sets.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
(PMC), to be known as the "Apache Fluo Project", be and hereby is
established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Fluo Project be and hereby is responsible for
the creation and maintenance of software related to the storage and
incremental processing of large data sets; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Fluo" be and hereby
is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Fluo Project, and to
have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
scope of responsibility of the Apache Fluo Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Fluo Project:

* Billie Rinaldi 
* Chris McTague 
* Christopher Tubbs 
* Corey J. Nolet 
* Drew Farris 
* Josh Elser 
* Keith Turner 
* Mike Walch 

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Keith Turner be appointed
to the office of Vice President, Apache Fluo, to serve in accordance
with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the
Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal
or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Fluo PMC be and hereby is tasked with
the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development
and increased participation in the Apache Fluo Project; and be it
further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Fluo Project be and hereby is tasked with the
migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Fluo podling; and
be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
Fluo podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
discharged.

Re: ZeroMQ licensing in Apache MXNet

[Greg Stein]

Sure. As I noted "optional at compile-time", and it certainly looks that
way.

We just don't want to force downstream users to get adversely-licensed
products just to build our software. And MXNET_USE_DIST_KVSTORE meets that
requirement.

Cheers,
-g


On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Dominic Divakaruni <
dominic.divakar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Greg, et al, do you believe this is a non-issue and resolved based on what
> Mu has said?
>
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Mu Li  wrote:
>
>> ZeroMQ is used only if setting `USE_DIST_KVSTORE = 1` during compilation.
>> In default, it is 0.
>>
>> The source codes are close to the following:
>>
>> #if MXNET_USE_DIST_KVSTORE
>> #include "zmq.h"
>> #endif  // MXNET_USE_DIST_KVSTORE
>>
>> Replacing ZeroMQ by another similar library is straightforward, but it is
>> marked as low priority because only a small portion of users wants to
>> compile with USE_DIST_KVSTORE = 1.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 1:54 AM, Greg Stein  wrote:
>>
>> > If it is optional at compile-time, then a header file is very
>> allowable. As
>> > long as MXNet can be compiled without ZeroMQ on the box, then I see no
>> > issue at all.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Felix Cheung 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Isn't the release binaries going to contain bits from zeromq because
>> of
>> > > #include though?
>> > >
>> > > That header file is still going to be LGPL 3.0 licensed right?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:45 PM John D. Ament 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Mu,
>> > > >
>> > > > So what happens when ZeroMQ is not available, do you fall back to
>> > > something
>> > > > else?
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm inclined to say that this is allowable, knowing that its an
>> > optional
>> > > > dynamically linked dependency that has an alternative.  Assuming it
>> has
>> > > an
>> > > > alternative.
>> > > >
>> > > > I would strongly encourage podlings to try to leverage what the ASF
>> > > > provides, we ship a number of messaging systems that may be better
>> > from a
>> > > > licensing stand point - ActiveMQ, RocketMQ, Pulsar.
>> > > >
>> > > > John
>> > > >
>> > > > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:27 PM Mu Li  wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > MXNet's backend is written in C++, which is not able to use the
>> > > > > java interface.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Luciano Resende <
>> > luckbr1...@gmail.com
>> > > >
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Are you guys able to use this (which is what we use in Apache
>> > Toree)?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > https://github.com/zeromq/jeromq
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Which has been successfully relicensed?
>> > > > > > https://github.com/zeromq/jeromq/blob/master/LICENSE
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 11:23 PM, Henri Yandell <
>> bay...@apache.org>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > One of the items that is on the list to do before releasing
>> > Apache
>> > > > > MXNet
>> > > > > > is
>> > > > > > > removing ZeroMQ from the codebase/dependencies.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > ZeroMQ is licensed under the LGPL 3.0 with an exception for
>> > static
>> > > > > > > compiling.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > They have long been interested in relicensing to MPL 2.0, but
>> > > haven't
>> > > > > > made
>> > > > > > > much progress, though they did relicense JeroMQ (Java
>> > > > > > > wrapper/implementaiton) last year.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > In the last few months they've made a lot of progress towards
>> > > > > > relicensing:
>> > > > > > > https://github.com/zeromq/libzmq/tree/master/RELICENSE
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I'd like to ask on legal-discuss@ for an exception (one
>> year?)
>> > to
>> > > > > > continue
>> > > > > > > using ZeroMQ, with prominent documentation, in MXNet given the
>> > > trend
>> > > > > > > towards MPL 2.0.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Any concerns before I do so?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Hen
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > Luciano Resende
>> > > > > > http://twitter.com/lresende1975
>> > > > > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
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> 206.475.9200 <(206)%20475-9200> Cell
>

Re: [VOTE] Recommend Apache Fluo graduation as TLP to Board

[Josh Elser]

+1 (binding)

Be on your way :)

On 7/10/17 4:44 PM, Christopher wrote:

Hello IPMC,

The recent DISCUSS thread on the topic of Fluo's graduation has been open
for at least 72 hours, and I believe all questions have been answered and
issues addressed at this point.

With the discussion having settled down, I would now like to call for a
recommendation VOTE to present the ASF board with the following resolution
to graduate from incubation and establish Apache Fluo as a top-level
project (TLP).

Incubator DISCUSS thread:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/214424f03d6f7b47f3abc1e3da772627390a07960daa8b95365380bc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
Fluo PPMC DISCUSS thread:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/3164d77ea18c3e36ce215ab4a07b2cb80cf9c49c2503ef5d1defbdde@%3Cdev.fluo.apache.org%3E
Fluo PPMC internal VOTE thread:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/04a9de260fcd14b184ae7a8b725e348e13ee4ad10e3057a6a404732c@%3Cprivate.fluo.apache.org%3E
Fluo Podling Status page: https://incubator.apache.org/projects/fluo

Please vote on whether to recommend the following graduation resolution to
the ASF Board.

[  ]  +1, In favor of recommending the following graduation resolution to
the ASF Board to establish Apache Fluo as a TLP
[  ]  +0, Neither opposed to, nor in favor of, recommending the following
graduation resolution to the Board
[  ]  -1, Opposed to recommending the following graduation resolution to
the Board

This VOTE will be open for at least 72 hours.

***Resolution:

Establish the Apache Fluo Project

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
related to the storage and incremental processing of large data sets.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
(PMC), to be known as the "Apache Fluo Project", be and hereby is
established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Fluo Project be and hereby is responsible for
the creation and maintenance of software related to the storage and
incremental processing of large data sets; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Fluo" be and hereby
is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Fluo Project, and to
have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
scope of responsibility of the Apache Fluo Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Fluo Project:

* Billie Rinaldi 
* Chris McTague 
* Christopher Tubbs 
* Corey J. Nolet 
* Drew Farris 
* Josh Elser 
* Keith Turner 
* Mike Walch 

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Keith Turner be appointed
to the office of Vice President, Apache Fluo, to serve in accordance
with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the
Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal
or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Fluo PMC be and hereby is tasked with
the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development
and increased participation in the Apache Fluo Project; and be it
further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Fluo Project be and hereby is tasked with the
migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Fluo podling; and
be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
Fluo podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
discharged.



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Re: [VOTE]: Apache HAWQ 2.2.0.0-incubating Release

[Alan Gates]

Forwarding my +1 from the dev list.

Alan.

On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Ruilong Huo  wrote:

> Hi IPMC member,
>
>
> The PPMC vote for the Apache HAWQ 2.2.0.0-incubating release has passed.
> We kindly request that the IPMC now vote on the release.
>
>
> The PPMC vote thread is located here:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ee0b81127e75eb2562e91b0a44d56b
> 24165c6284a7a46dc03eeb7d6d@%3Cdev.hawq.apache.org%3E
>
>
> The artifacts can be downloaded here:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/hawq/2.2.0.
> 0-incubating.RC3/
>
>
> The artifacts have been signed with Key : 1B8B6872
>
>
> All JIRAs completed for this release are tagged with 'FixVersion =
> 2.2.0.0-incubating'. You can view them here:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?
> projectId=12318826&version=12339641
>
>
> Please vote accordingly:
> [ ] +1, accept as the official Apache HAWQ 2.2.0.0-incubating release
> [ ] -1, do not accept as the official Apache HAWQ 2.2.0.0-incubating
> release because...
>
>
> The vote will run for at least 72 hours.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Ruilong Huo

Re: [DISCUSS] Fluo graduation as TLP

[Josh Elser]

To clarify just in case it's not clear (I had to read it twice to get 
it): notifications@f.a.o[1] is what Christopher meant by "the 
notifications list" and is probably the discussion you're looking for, 
Bertrand :)


[1] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?notificati...@fluo.apache.org

On 7/10/17 10:29 AM, Christopher wrote:

As a project which was born and raised on GitHub, Fluo makes very heavy use
of the issue tracker for day to day decision making and asyncronous
discussions, using GitHub issues and pull requests. We're a R-t-C
community, and a lot of that discussion occurs during code reviews on the
issue tracker. We've found that works very well. For ASF tracking purposes,
it relies on infra services to CC the notifications list. New users can get
up to speed by looking at the history there, but it's probably much easier
to dive in to the documentation on the website and browse the discussions
on the issue tracker threads.

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017, 07:34 Bertrand Delacretaz 
wrote:


Hi,

It looks like Fluo is indeed ready to graduate but I have a question
about its dev list usage.

I had a look at the Fluo dev list archive,
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@fluo.apache.org

There's very little going on there in terms of technical discussions
and decisions, most of the traffic (and that's not much) seems to be
about project governance topics.

Can someone from Fluo comment on that vs. "if it didn't happen on the
dev list it didn't happen" ?

Are open asynchronous discussions happening elsewhere, and how do you
see newcomers getting up to speed?

-Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Streams project from Incubator

[Davor Bonaci]

+1

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Ate Douma  wrote:

> +1 (binding)
>
> Ate
>
>
> On 2017-07-10 17:09, sblackmon wrote:
>
>>   In concert with the discussion started last week [1], please vote on
>> the draft resolution which establishes Apache Streams as a new top-level
>> project at the Apache Software Foundation, as follows:
>>
>> [ ] +1, Graduate Apache Streams from the Incubator.
>> [ ] +0, Don't care.
>> [ ] -1, Don't graduate Apache Streams from the Incubator (provide details)
>>
>> The full text of the resolution is below.
>>
>> If approved by the Apache Incubator PMC members, the proposed resolution
>> will be submitted to the Board of Directors for their consideration.
>>
>> Thanks !
>>
>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/60d676ad7b190323f8479bc
>> cff8ae996f98bf5fcd0d0ff4d54b71006@
>>
>> Establish the Apache Streams Project
>>
>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a
>> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related
>> to interoperability of online profiles and activity feeds.
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Streams Project", be and hereby is
>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Streams Project be and hereby is responsible
>> for the creation and maintenance of software related to interoperability of
>> online profiles and activity feeds; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Streams" be and
>> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
>> of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Streams Project, and
>> to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
>> scope of responsibility of the Apache Streams Project; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Streams Project:
>>
>>   * Stephen D Blackmon   
>>   * Robert Baker Douglas 
>>   * Ate Douma
>>   * Ryan Edward Ebanks   
>>   * Matt Franklin
>>   * Joey Frazee  
>>   * Trevor Grant 
>>   * Suneel Marthi
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Stephen D Blackmon be
>> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Streams, to serve in
>> accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and
>> the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal
>> or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Streams PMC be and hereby is tasked
>> with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development
>> and increased participation in the Apache Streams Project; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Streams Project be and hereby is tasked with
>> the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Streams podling;
>> and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>> Streams podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
>> discharged.
>>
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[RESULT][VOTE]: Apache HAWQ 2.2.0.0-incubating Release

[Ruilong Huo]

Hi IPMC members,


The Apache HAWQ 2.2.0.0-incubating Release IPMC vote is now closed and has 
passed as follows:
[4] +1 (binding) votes
[0] -1 (binding) votes


Overall vote breakdown is as below:
Roman Shaposhnik   +1 (non-binding)
John D. Ament   +1 (non-binding)
Justin Mclean +1 (binding)
Alan Gates +1 (non-binding)


Thanks everyone for taking the time to review and vote. The Apache HAWQ 
(incubating) community will proceed with the release.


Best regards,
Ruilong Huo

Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Apache HAWQ 2.2.0.0-incubating Release

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> Overall vote breakdown is as below:
> Roman Shaposhnik   +1 (non-binding)
> John D. Ament   +1 (non-binding)
> Justin Mclean +1 (binding)
> Alan Gates +1 (non-binding)

Why are the 3 votes marked as non binding? All 4 people are on the incubator 
PMC and thus all 4 votes are binding.

Thanks,
Justin
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Re:Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Apache HAWQ 2.2.0.0-incubating Release

[HuoRuilong]

Hi Justin,

Thanks Justin! If IPMC vote by default is binding vote, I will correct the 
announcement.
There was only one explicit +1 binding vote from you and others are just +1. So 
I thought they were non-binding vote:)


Best regards,
Ruilong Huo


At 2017-07-11 11:06:45, "Justin Mclean"  wrote:
>Hi,
>
>> Overall vote breakdown is as below:
>> Roman Shaposhnik   +1 (non-binding)
>> John D. Ament   +1 (non-binding)
>> Justin Mclean +1 (binding)
>> Alan Gates +1 (non-binding)
>
>Why are the 3 votes marked as non binding? All 4 people are on the incubator 
>PMC and thus all 4 votes are binding.
>
>Thanks,
>Justin
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[RESULT][VOTE]: Apache HAWQ 2.2.0.0-incubating Release

[Ruilong Huo]

Hi IPMC members,

Some refinement are done based on previous announcement for vote result of 
Apache HAWQ 2.2.0.0-incubating
Release by counting the +1 vote from IPMC members as binding vote.

The Apache HAWQ 2.2.0.0-incubating Release IPMC vote is now closed and has 
passed as follows:
[4] +1 (binding) votes
[0] -1 (binding) votes

Overall vote breakdown is as below:
Roman Shaposhnik   +1 (binding)
John D. Ament  +1 (binding)
Justin Mclean  +1 (binding)
Alan Gates +1 (binding)

Thanks everyone for taking the time to review and vote. The Apache HAWQ 
(incubating) community will proceed with the release.

Best regards,
Ruilong Huo

Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Apache HAWQ 2.2.0.0-incubating Release

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> There was only one explicit +1 binding vote from you and others are just +1. 
> So I thought they were non-binding vote:)

In which case (if they were non binding votes) the vote would not of passed as 
you need 3 +1 binding votes and more +1’s than -1’s to pass.

Thanks,
Justin
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Apache HAWQ 2.2.0.0-incubating Release

[Julian Hyde]

Ruilong (and others),

If in doubt, look people up at https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html 
. If a voter’s page has “PMC member 
of … incubator” then their vote is binding.

E.g. https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?uid=jmclean 


Julian


> On Jul 10, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> There was only one explicit +1 binding vote from you and others are just +1. 
>> So I thought they were non-binding vote:)
> 
> In which case (if they were non binding votes) the vote would not of passed 
> as you need 3 +1 binding votes and more +1’s than -1’s to pass.
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
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Re: ZeroMQ licensing in Apache MXNet

[Dominic Divakaruni]

Greg, et al, do you believe this is a non-issue and resolved based on what
Mu has said?

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Mu Li  wrote:

> ZeroMQ is used only if setting `USE_DIST_KVSTORE = 1` during compilation.
> In default, it is 0.
>
> The source codes are close to the following:
>
> #if MXNET_USE_DIST_KVSTORE
> #include "zmq.h"
> #endif  // MXNET_USE_DIST_KVSTORE
>
> Replacing ZeroMQ by another similar library is straightforward, but it is
> marked as low priority because only a small portion of users wants to
> compile with USE_DIST_KVSTORE = 1.
>
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 1:54 AM, Greg Stein  wrote:
>
> > If it is optional at compile-time, then a header file is very allowable.
> As
> > long as MXNet can be compiled without ZeroMQ on the box, then I see no
> > issue at all.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Felix Cheung 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Isn't the release binaries going to contain bits from zeromq because of
> > > #include though?
> > >
> > > That header file is still going to be LGPL 3.0 licensed right?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:45 PM John D. Ament 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mu,
> > > >
> > > > So what happens when ZeroMQ is not available, do you fall back to
> > > something
> > > > else?
> > > >
> > > > I'm inclined to say that this is allowable, knowing that its an
> > optional
> > > > dynamically linked dependency that has an alternative.  Assuming it
> has
> > > an
> > > > alternative.
> > > >
> > > > I would strongly encourage podlings to try to leverage what the ASF
> > > > provides, we ship a number of messaging systems that may be better
> > from a
> > > > licensing stand point - ActiveMQ, RocketMQ, Pulsar.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:27 PM Mu Li  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > MXNet's backend is written in C++, which is not able to use the
> > > > > java interface.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Luciano Resende <
> > luckbr1...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Are you guys able to use this (which is what we use in Apache
> > Toree)?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://github.com/zeromq/jeromq
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Which has been successfully relicensed?
> > > > > > https://github.com/zeromq/jeromq/blob/master/LICENSE
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 11:23 PM, Henri Yandell <
> bay...@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > One of the items that is on the list to do before releasing
> > Apache
> > > > > MXNet
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > removing ZeroMQ from the codebase/dependencies.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ZeroMQ is licensed under the LGPL 3.0 with an exception for
> > static
> > > > > > > compiling.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They have long been interested in relicensing to MPL 2.0, but
> > > haven't
> > > > > > made
> > > > > > > much progress, though they did relicense JeroMQ (Java
> > > > > > > wrapper/implementaiton) last year.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In the last few months they've made a lot of progress towards
> > > > > > relicensing:
> > > > > > > https://github.com/zeromq/libzmq/tree/master/RELICENSE
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd like to ask on legal-discuss@ for an exception (one year?)
> > to
> > > > > > continue
> > > > > > > using ZeroMQ, with prominent documentation, in MXNet given the
> > > trend
> > > > > > > towards MPL 2.0.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any concerns before I do so?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Luciano Resende
> > > > > > http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> > > > > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



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