In a discussion [1] on private@streams started on 7/5/17 there was strong support from PPMC including 3 mentors for the proposed charter. PPMC members not proposed for PMC had a chance to request they be added to proposed PMC, but none did.
We plan to push forward and start a VOTE on the matter of graduation today, but this DISCUSS will remain open as well for any questions from IPMC. Steve [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/dd5f60bfd6ecbd41eca42467f13a10759d2ea9cb3fc2af93ecfefb6c@<private.streams.apache.org> On July 5, 2017 at 4:37:47 PM, sblackmon (sblack...@apache.org(mailto:sblack...@apache.org)) wrote: > To Dave’s question about participation, I believe that’s correct. The PPMC > members who are not proposed for the PMC have all been wholly inactive for at > least year. > > To Dave’s question about commit rights, as a podling we never added any > non-PPMC committers, so I personally think it’s appropriate that we would > only maintain commit rights for those on the new PMC. > > I expect the community would welcome any former participants who returned and > wanted to contribute again eagerly, and they could regain commit rights in > short order. > But based on feedback from both of you, I will open a thread on > private@streams asking for feedback on the decision everyone on the PPMC. > Clearly I should have done that prior to circulating the draft among this > group. > > Steve > > On July 5, 2017 at 4:30:54 PM, John D. Ament > (johndam...@apache.org(mailto:johndam...@apache.org)) wrote: > > > So I just went back through the archives. I think I share Dave's concerns > > about notifying. It looks like the incubator list was the first place the > > proposed resolution was shared. Would be good to put in front of the > > private@streams list make sure no one has any concerns with it. > > > > John > > > > On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 4:26 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > > > > > Thanks for clarifying. Does this list correspond to those who have > > > participated with commits and project work in the last 6 months or year > > > who > > > are PPMC members or committers? Will you continue to allow all current > > > committers to have commit rights once you go to TLP? > > > > > > My concern is anyone losing merit even if it has been a few years. People > > > come and go. Sometimes people come back after being absent for a couple of > > > years. One aspect at Apache is that merit does not expire. > > > > > > (I am part of OpenOffice where we went from a huge PPMC to a large PMC on > > > graduation so I feel what you are doing is legitimate.) > > > > > > Regards, > > > Dave > > > > > > On Jul 5, 2017, at 1:19 PM, sblackmon wrote: > > > > > > As the PPMC member encouraged to draft the resolution, that was the > > > condition I decided to apply, after running it by a few others from the > > > community out-of-band. There was no email thread on the topic, so using > > > the definition that decisions must be made on the list, this wasn’t a > > > group > > > decision, it was an action by me. > > > > > > Sorry for the confusion. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > On July 5, 2017 at 2:45:50 PM, Dave Fisher (dave2w...@comcast.net) wrote: > > > > > > Hi Steve, > > > > > > Where was that decision made? I don’t see that recently in Pony Mail > > > archives. I don’t see anything wrong with decision I just don’t see any > > > record of it. Please let us know when it was made and how it was recorded. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Dave > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 2017, at 12:33 PM, sblackmon wrote: > > > > > > > > John, > > > > > > > > We decided to propose only PPMC members who voted +1 to the graduation > > > resolution for the PMC. If that left out anyone harboring a latent plan to > > > re-engage with the project community, and they let us know on dev@streams, > > > we’d be happy to add their names onto the resolution. > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > On July 5, 2017 at 2:12:53 PM, John D. Ament (johndam...@apache.org) > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Steve, > > > > > > > > Thanks for drafting this. I see there's a big difference between the > > > > listed PPMC and the proposed PMC. I'm assuming you've reached out to > > > those > > > > excluded and confirmed they're not interested in Streams any longer? > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 2:48 PM sblackmon wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hello, > > > >> > > > >> The Streams PPMC has discussed [1] and voted [2] to graduate to TLP. > > > >> > > > >> In preparation for an IPMC vote on the matter, we’ve updated our > > > >> project > > > > > > >> status xml [3] and corresponding whimsy podlingStatus [4], completed an > > > > > > >> Apache Maturity Model Assessment [5], and drafted a proposed charter > > > [6]. > > > >> > > > >> We’d appreciate any feedback you can provide at this stage to help > > > ensure > > > >> the project has all bases covered to become a successful Apache TLP. > > > >> > > > >> Thank you for your consideration. > > > >> > > > >> [1] > > > >> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/64738d9382b094bb52a733e7d44f5497eecc04fae4255366abc0270b@ > > > >> > > > >> [2] > > > >> > > > >> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/cd17d49769b85a8cda14cd16624032c0ddb02e8e707545082c5fc893@ > > > > > > >> > > > >> [3] > > > >> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/streams.html > > > >> [4] > > > >> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/streams#podlingStatus > > > >> [5] > > > >> > > > >> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STREAMS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+Streams > > > > > > >> [6] > > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STREAMS/Proposed+Charter > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
