[ANNOUNCE] Apache Stanbol 0.9.0-incubating Released
Hi, The Apache Stanbol PPMC is pleased to announce the first release of Apache Stanbol versioned as 0.9.0-incubating. Downloads are available at: http://incubator.apache.org/stanbol/downloads/releases.html The Maven artifacts will shortly be available via Maven central. Regards, - The Apache Stanbol PPMC - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
SIS status (Was: May reports due in ten days)
Hi, On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > sis-dev: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-sis-dev/ > went from 9 email messages in January 2012 to 32, 74 and 39 in Feb-April 2012 Nice progress, sounds like the wake-up call early this year was a good thing. I notice that svn commit activity is still pretty low. Hopefully the mailing list discussions evolve into more commits over time. Anyway, it sounds like the project is on a good path. I'm looking forward to more good news in the next report! BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Wink status (Was: Shepherds for podling reports)
Hi, Thanks for the report, Wink, and for the review, Dave! On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > From activity it looks like this project should have graduated into a TLP a > year > ago. It looks like a mature and well developed project. I don't understand why > they think that they should become a subproject of Geronimo or Tuscany. > They are a mature and useful tool. It's time for this bird to fly on its own > wings. They are an example of a small, viable community that contributes > to more than one other community. Podling Namesearch and graduation > should be next. Wink, any thoughts on this? BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Wink status (Was: Shepherds for podling reports)
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the report, Wink, and for the review, Dave! > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> From activity it looks like this project should have graduated into a TLP a >> year >> ago. It looks like a mature and well developed project. I don't understand >> why >> they think that they should become a subproject of Geronimo or Tuscany. >> They are a mature and useful tool. It's time for this bird to fly on its own >> wings. They are an example of a small, viable community that contributes >> to more than one other community. Podling Namesearch and graduation >> should be next. > > Wink, any thoughts on this? > > BR, > > Jukka Zitting > +1, This is my opinion as well, but we started considering other options mainly because of some feedback we got on the last discussion on the Wink mailing list (see summary on February board report). If the IPMC thinks otherwise and would be ok with the Wink project graduation based on "a small, viable community that contributes to more than one other community" I'm more then happy to continue the Graduation process. [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2012 -- Luciano Resende http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://twitter.com/lresende1975 http://lresende.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Nuvem status (Was: Shepherds for podling reports)
Hi, Thanks for the report, Nuvem, and the review, Dave! On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > It is really hard to know what this project is trying to do other than be a > common > API for Cloud Apps. Very low activity. Apparently no users. A little pick up > in > dev activity recently. More information on the podling site might attract a > few > more developers. No release. This thread shows that the developers are aware: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-nuvem-dev/201201.mbox/%3CCANzUfzemiQBzxt%3DgFFM7tMBdyMv-q7H%2BvBB2xR0GxECs5y17KQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E > > I suggest the Nuvem PPMC focus on explaining precisely what they are trying > to build. Nuvem, any thoughts on this? In your report you mention "increase the number of active committers" as a task to be done. Do you have more concrete ideas on how you're planning to achieve this? As noted also by Dave, I see your mailing list activity picked up notably in March and April, which looks good. Hopefully that activity becomes sustainable over a longer period. BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Apache Syncope 1.0.0-RC1-incubating
On 9 May 2012 07:42, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: > Le 5/9/12 2:27 AM, sebb a écrit : > >> On 8 May 2012 13:06, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: >>> >>> Comments inline >>> >>> Le 5/8/12 11:05 AM, sebb a écrit : On 8 May 2012 09:13, Francesco Chicchiriccò wrote: > > Hi Sebb, > you can find my replies embedded below. > > I am going to send a [CANCEL] reply to this thread, remove Nexus > staging > repo and SVN tag, fix everything and start again the release process > for > 1.0.0-RC1-incubating from scratch. > > Regards. > > > > > >> The NOTICE file is very long; I suspect that not all of the entries >> are >> *required*. > > > The LICENSE and NOTICE files were written against the parent POM: all > the > dependencies with scope != test were considered, then. The N&L files must relate to what is actually included in the archive. >>> >>> >>> We release sources, so making a distinction between scope != test >>> dependencies and scope=test dependencies does not make sense, AFAICT. If >>> we >>> use a 3rd party product to test Syncope, then I think we must refer their >>> licenses in NOTICE and LICENSE. >> >> No, AIUI the N&L files only relate to what is being released, not any >> external dependencies. > > See JDBM example in > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#note-license-and-notice. > Typically, JDBM will be a dependencies, but still it requires you to include > the needed references into N&L files. > > I'm a bit lost here, as the idea is to allow users to download the source > package we release, and not infringe any of the 3rd party software Licences, > by including in our own N&L files what the 3rd party product requires us to > include. The cited link says: "So, if the release _redistributes_ any source or artifacts ..." ... "This product _includes_ software developed by ..." [My _emphasis_] It's clear from the above that the N&L must relate to what is actually included in the release package. Unless dependencies are included in the release, they should not be mentioned in the N&L files. There are separate rules for what 3rd party software ASF projects are allowed to depend on. > > -- > Regards, > Cordialement, > Emmanuel Lécharny > www.iktek.com > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherds for podling reports
Hi, Sorry for the delay. Something came up that took most of my attention away from the Incubator for the last few days. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > Well, the Wiki page explicitly says that the chair will assign. If you have time, feel free to pick any of the reports still listed under TODOs. And as said, there's no harm (on the contrary) of multiple reviews on top of those already done by the podling mentors. I'll start working on completing the Incubator report later tonight. Any extra podling reviews and especially the categorization of podling status would be quite useful for that. BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Apache Syncope 1.0.0-RC1-incubating
Le 5/9/12 6:35 PM, sebb a écrit : On 9 May 2012 07:42, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: Le 5/9/12 2:27 AM, sebb a écrit : On 8 May 2012 13:06, Emmanuel Lécharnywrote: Comments inline Le 5/8/12 11:05 AM, sebb a écrit : On 8 May 2012 09:13, Francesco Chicchiriccò wrote: Hi Sebb, you can find my replies embedded below. I am going to send a [CANCEL] reply to this thread, remove Nexus staging repo and SVN tag, fix everything and start again the release process for 1.0.0-RC1-incubating from scratch. Regards. The NOTICE file is very long; I suspect that not all of the entries are *required*. The LICENSE and NOTICE files were written against the parent POM: all the dependencies with scope != test were considered, then. The N&L files must relate to what is actually included in the archive. We release sources, so making a distinction between scope != test dependencies and scope=test dependencies does not make sense, AFAICT. If we use a 3rd party product to test Syncope, then I think we must refer their licenses in NOTICE and LICENSE. No, AIUI the N&L files only relate to what is being released, not any external dependencies. See JDBM example in http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#note-license-and-notice. Typically, JDBM will be a dependencies, but still it requires you to include the needed references into N&L files. I'm a bit lost here, as the idea is to allow users to download the source package we release, and not infringe any of the 3rd party software Licences, by including in our own N&L files what the 3rd party product requires us to include. The cited link says: "So, if the release _redistributes_ any source or artifacts ..." As Syncope is distributing wars, I guess it enters into this category. ... "This product _includes_ software developed by ..." [My _emphasis_] It's clear from the above that the N&L must relate to what is actually included in the release package. Unless dependencies are included in the release, they should not be mentioned in the N&L files. Ok, loud and clear... There are separate rules for what 3rd party software ASF projects are allowed to depend on. Yep. Thanks ! -- Regards, Cordialement, Emmanuel Lécharny www.iktek.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Wink status (Was: Shepherds for podling reports)
On 9 May 2012, at 17:23, Luciano Resende wrote: > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Thanks for the report, Wink, and for the review, Dave! >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >>> From activity it looks like this project should have graduated into a TLP a >>> year >>> ago. It looks like a mature and well developed project. I don't understand >>> why >>> they think that they should become a subproject of Geronimo or Tuscany. >>> They are a mature and useful tool. It's time for this bird to fly on its own >>> wings. They are an example of a small, viable community that contributes >>> to more than one other community. Podling Namesearch and graduation >>> should be next. >> >> Wink, any thoughts on this? >> >> BR, >> >> Jukka Zitting >> > > +1, This is my opinion as well, but we started considering other > options mainly because of some feedback we got on the last discussion > on the Wink mailing list (see summary on February board report). > > If the IPMC thinks otherwise and would be ok with the Wink project > graduation based on "a small, viable community that contributes to > more than one other community" I'm more then happy to continue the > Graduation process. > +1 I've used Wink and its a great project - I think it should be a TLP in its own right rather than a subproject as being a standalone, relatively simple framework rather than part of a great big stack is one of its selling points (for me at least) > > [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2012 > > -- > Luciano Resende > http://people.apache.org/~lresende > http://twitter.com/lresende1975 > http://lresende.blogspot.com/ > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Wink status (Was: Shepherds for podling reports)
On May 9, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Thanks for the report, Wink, and for the review, Dave! >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >>> From activity it looks like this project should have graduated into a TLP a >>> year >>> ago. It looks like a mature and well developed project. I don't understand >>> why >>> they think that they should become a subproject of Geronimo or Tuscany. >>> They are a mature and useful tool. It's time for this bird to fly on its own >>> wings. They are an example of a small, viable community that contributes >>> to more than one other community. Podling Namesearch and graduation >>> should be next. >> >> Wink, any thoughts on this? >> >> BR, >> >> Jukka Zitting >> > > +1, This is my opinion as well, but we started considering other > options mainly because of some feedback we got on the last discussion > on the Wink mailing list (see summary on February board report). > > If the IPMC thinks otherwise and would be ok with the Wink project > graduation based on "a small, viable community that contributes to > more than one other community" I'm more then happy to continue the > Graduation process. IIRC, there was one email that raised a concern about the diversity of the community. I don't think there was any subsequent discussion (for or against this concern). Actually, looks like this was the latest word on the subject: On Feb 2, 2012, at 8:49 AM, ant elder wrote: > "...talks had halted as one member has not agreed to proceed with > graduation..." thats a little harsh, I just questioned the level of > activity and said it would be an easier decision if Wink was more > active. I would discuss the diversity question in the Wink community. Provide reasons why you think the community is ready to graduate and make things happen… --kevan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Users missing from incubator unix group
When adding users to podlings in asf-authorization-template, please remember to update the incubator unix group as well, otherwise the users can have problems with some parts of SVN or updating the site. The following were added to podlings but not the incubator group: bloodhound: hwright giraph: ssc Here is the command to fix this: modify_unix_group.pl incubator -add=hwright,ssc [Needs to be done by someone who is a PMC chair] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: AMBER Status: let down by incubator?
Hi, On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > Blocked from graduation by IP signoff from University of > Newcastle. Report asks for guidance. Why are mentors not providing > this? The projet has, IMHO, been unnecessarily blocked by this since > October 2010. My earlier mentor cleanup review suggested that *all* original Amber mentors have been inactive for some while already. Raymond has recently stepped up to help, but I think more new mentors may be needed. Anyone interested? The situation here sounds similar to other podlings that have ended up in a limbo with no active mentors to guide them. We definitely need better ways of detecting and dealing with such situations before they start blocking progress in a podling. > Legal JIRA raised on 30/4/2011 at > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-134 - looks like it will > be resolved soon but mentors should have provided this advice 18 months ago. Any volunteers to help Amber finish this task? BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: AMBER Status: let down by incubator?
One of the Amber committers Pid (pidster) just restarted the discussion on the Amber ML and he volunteered to contact the copyright owner. Hopefully the issue will be resolved soon. But it seems that we are good to move forward. Thanks, Raymond On May 9, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Ross Gardler > wrote: >> Blocked from graduation by IP signoff from University of >> Newcastle. Report asks for guidance. Why are mentors not providing >> this? The projet has, IMHO, been unnecessarily blocked by this since >> October 2010. > > My earlier mentor cleanup review suggested that *all* original Amber > mentors have been inactive for some while already. Raymond has > recently stepped up to help, but I think more new mentors may be > needed. Anyone interested? > > The situation here sounds similar to other podlings that have ended up > in a limbo with no active mentors to guide them. We definitely need > better ways of detecting and dealing with such situations before they > start blocking progress in a podling. > >> Legal JIRA raised on 30/4/2011 at >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-134 - looks like it will >> be resolved soon but mentors should have provided this advice 18 months ago. > > Any volunteers to help Amber finish this task? > > BR, > > Jukka Zitting > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Users missing from incubator unix group
Hi, On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:48 PM, sebb wrote: > Here is the command to fix this: > > modify_unix_group.pl incubator -add=hwright,ssc Done, thanks! IIUC this only happens with existing Apache committers who join as podling committers. New podling accounts are automatically added to the incubator group. PS. Giraph is just about to graduate, but there's no harm in giving Sebastian Schelter (scc) incubator karma even if its useful only temporarily. BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Users missing from incubator unix group
On 9 May 2012 23:39, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:48 PM, sebb wrote: >> Here is the command to fix this: >> >> modify_unix_group.pl incubator -add=hwright,ssc > > Done, thanks! Thanks! > IIUC this only happens with existing Apache committers who join as > podling committers. New podling accounts are automatically added to > the incubator group. Yes > PS. Giraph is just about to graduate, but there's no harm in giving > Sebastian Schelter (scc) incubator karma even if its useful only > temporarily. > > BR, > > Jukka Zitting > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: AMBER Status: let down by incubator?
Hi, On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > ...The situation here sounds similar to other podlings that have ended up > in a limbo with no active mentors to guide them. We definitely need > better ways of detecting and dealing with such situations before they > start blocking progress in a podling Earlier this year we voted on a change to the champion's role [1] (see "during incubation") which includes looking after the podling to make sure mentors are sufficiently active. I didn't actively follow up so far, but making sure every podling has a responsive champion would be a start, WDYT? I just updated the podlings.xsl so that [2] now displays champions recorded in podlings.xml, with missing ones marked in red. -Bertrand [1] http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Champion [2] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/podlings.xml - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Stanbol status (Re: May reports due in ten days)
Hi, On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > The Stanbol release is imminent, the seventh (!) release candidate has > just been voted on and should hit this list in the next few days. Excellent, congratulations on the release! > As a Stanbol mentor I'm impressed by the effort put in making this > release compliant with ASF requirements, including creating a separate > -deps package after such things were discussed here. I'm confident > that Stanbol is ready for graduation once this release is out. Sounds great! I gave the project a quick look and it indeed seems like a vibrant community. I'm looking forward to Stanbol graduating in near future. BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Lucene.NET status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "May2012" by PrescottNasser)
Hi, Thanks for the report, Lucene.NET! On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Apache Wiki wrote: > One of the mentors (Stefan Bodewig) has indicated he wants to start pushing > for graduation. UPDATE: Unfortunately, we have not made any progress on this > - hopefully we can have a more conclusive update next check in. Our > development/committers group is small, and work sometimes happens in > bursts and then stalls - something we need to work on a bit. Looking at the svn history I see a long history of sustained month-after-month commit activity. More activity is of course always great, but I don't think this is something you need to worry about at least as a graduation issue. However, the one thing I am a bit worried about is that I couldn't tell when was the last time you added a new committer to the team. Your contribution report [1] shows some people who've contributed lots of patches but aren't committers yet. What's up with that? [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ConfigureReport.jspa?versionId=-1&issueStatus=all&selectedProjectId=12310290&reportKey=com.sourcelabs.jira.plugin.report.contributions%3Acontributionreport&Next=Next BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Lucene.NET status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "May2012" by PrescottNasser)
Jukka: Thanks my friend. The way you have been running the IPMC during your tenure as chair addresses just about everything I have ever bitched about regarding the Incubator. I really appreciate what you are doing and the time it must take to do it, but it does not go unnoticed. - Original Message - > From: Jukka Zitting > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 7:31 PM > Subject: Lucene.NET status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "May2012" by > PrescottNasser) > > Hi, > > Thanks for the report, Lucene.NET! > > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Apache Wiki > wrote: >> One of the mentors (Stefan Bodewig) has indicated he wants to start pushing >> for graduation. UPDATE: Unfortunately, we have not made any progress on > this >> - hopefully we can have a more conclusive update next check in. Our >> development/committers group is small, and work sometimes happens in >> bursts and then stalls - something we need to work on a bit. > > Looking at the svn history I see a long history of sustained > month-after-month commit activity. More activity is of course always > great, but I don't think this is something you need to worry about at > least as a graduation issue. > > However, the one thing I am a bit worried about is that I couldn't > tell when was the last time you added a new committer to the team. > Your contribution report [1] shows some people who've contributed lots > of patches but aren't committers yet. What's up with that? > > [1] > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ConfigureReport.jspa?versionId=-1&issueStatus=all&selectedProjectId=12310290&reportKey=com.sourcelabs.jira.plugin.report.contributions%3Acontributionreport&Next=Next > > BR, > > Jukka Zitting > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Yay for reviews
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > I really appreciate what you are doing > and the time it must take to do it +1 I'd add that it's become easier to view the Incubator from a project perspective, as these meta-reviews sharpen the focus on what problems incubation is supposed to solve and help us to assess how well we are doing. The community development goals are becoming better defined as Jukka leads the way on articulating them and we develop and refine our techniques for building healthy projects. I guess the community development checkboxes were always there in the Incubator documentation, but for the most part our documentation is more like a reference manual (with lots of meandering and redundancy -- see
Re: AMBER Status: let down by incubator?
On 9 May 2012 23:11, Jukka Zitting wrote: > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Ross Gardler > wrote: ... >> Legal JIRA raised on 30/4/2011 at >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-134 - looks like it will >> be resolved soon but mentors should have provided this advice 18 months ago. > > Any volunteers to help Amber finish this task? Raymond seems to be engaged on the issue so hopefully it'll be cleared up soon. Raymond knows where to come for help if necessary. Ross - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Ambari Status
In reviewing the Amabari report, I have a couple of notes/concerns: * The community IMHO is in serious risk of failure to launch. A recent code change has sparked project interest, but list activity was non existent after January. *As Ambari went nearly 2 months without a single e-mail to the list, I think an issue for graduation should be added that the community must demonstrate viability for X more reporting periods (where x IMO is > 2). * The list of completed JIRA issues is not very telling of anything and might give the impression that the community is more vibrant than it is Also, I noticed that ddas signed off on it as a mentor. I don't see him listed as an Apache member or IPMC member. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Ambari Status
On 10 May 2012 01:56, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote: > *As Ambari went nearly 2 months without a single e-mail to the list, I > think an issue for graduation should be added that the community must > demonstrate viability for X more reporting periods (where x IMO is > 2). I just had a look at the report and don't see any evidence that the project believes it is approaching graduation yet. We don't put a time limit on graduation but it is a given that projects demonstrate viability. I suggest we just let the project continue on its current course and see where it is in a few months. Ross - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Flex Status
I have reviewed the flex report and community and didn't find any major issues.
The small things I found are:
1) The report appears to be written by a single person
2) This person appears to be disheartened a bit ("We expect the initial RC's to
be rejected as we finalize licensing and other policy issues"). I don't think
the negativity belongs in the report. This isn't a big problem unless it is
representative of the general community's state of mind, which I saw no
evidence of in my short scan of the mail list.
3) No mentors have signed off on the report
4) The mail list has been decreasing steadily since the beginning, but still
well within normal levels IMO
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Re: Ambari Status
Hi, Thanks for the review Matt! On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:56 AM, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote: > * The community IMHO is in serious risk of failure to launch. A recent code >change has > sparked project interest, but list activity was non existent after January. Sounds like the project community still needs to learn how to develop code out in the open. The massive revision 1335750 [1] seems to have been based on no open discussion on the mailing list or the issue tracker. Of course learning that stuff is what the Incubator exists for, so it's all fine as long as the community is willing to learn and mentors are there to help. [1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1335750 BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Flex Status
Actually we discovered after this draft report had been written that we are not
supposed to report this month. It should probably be removed from the incubator
report.
I would not classify the attitude about the RC as negativity. The project is
complex with a long history and I imagine it will take a few tries to get an
acceptable release candidate.
Greg
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On May 9, 2012, at 8:34 PM, "Franklin, Matthew B." wrote:
> I have reviewed the flex report and community and didn't find any major
> issues. The small things I found are:
>
> 1) The report appears to be written by a single person
>
> 2) This person appears to be disheartened a bit ("We expect the initial RC's
> to be rejected as we finalize licensing and other policy issues"). I don't
> think the negativity belongs in the report. This isn't a big problem unless
> it is representative of the general community's state of mind, which I saw no
> evidence of in my short scan of the mail list.
>
> 3) No mentors have signed off on the report
>
> 4) The mail list has been decreasing steadily since the beginning, but still
> well within normal levels IMO
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Re: Lucene.NET status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "May2012" by PrescottNasser)
On 5/9/2012 6:34 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Jukka: > > Thanks my friend. The way you have been running the IPMC during your > tenure as chair addresses just about everything I have ever bitched > about regarding the Incubator. I really appreciate what you are doing > and the time it must take to do it, but it does not go unnoticed. ++1, no disrespect to those before you including dedicated mentors and idea-people but this is measurably more effective. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Flex Status
On May 9, 2012, at 7:12 PM, Greg Reddin wrote:
> Actually we discovered after this draft report had been written that we are
> not supposed to report this month. It should probably be removed from the
> incubator report.
>
> I would not classify the attitude about the RC as negativity. The project is
> complex with a long history and I imagine it will take a few tries to get an
> acceptable release candidate.
They are concerned about getting all of their JIRA imported and have stumbled
on some issues. At the same time Adobe legal is reviewing each part and
releasing in pieces. Since this report was written the test suite has come in.
I think we'll be able to persuade the PPMC that they don't really want to
manage their own JIRA instance once that is done. So, they have a little infra
delay.
Interestingly, today someone on the OpenOffice dev ML was pointing to Flex's
logo contest as a good idea for AOO.
I'll certainly try to suggest another report author when report time truly
arrives. I agree with Greg that we should remove this report.
Regards,
Dave
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> Greg
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> On May 9, 2012, at 8:34 PM, "Franklin, Matthew B."
> wrote:
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>> I have reviewed the flex report and community and didn't find any major
>> issues. The small things I found are:
>>
>> 1) The report appears to be written by a single person
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>> 2) This person appears to be disheartened a bit ("We expect the initial RC's
>> to be rejected as we finalize licensing and other policy issues"). I don't
>> think the negativity belongs in the report. This isn't a big problem unless
>> it is representative of the general community's state of mind, which I saw
>> no evidence of in my short scan of the mail list.
>>
>> 3) No mentors have signed off on the report
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>> 4) The mail list has been decreasing steadily since the beginning, but still
>> well within normal levels IMO
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Re: Ambari Status
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote: > In reviewing the Amabari report, I have a couple of notes/concerns: > > * The community IMHO is in serious risk of failure to launch. A recent code > change has sparked project interest, but list activity was non existent after > January. Ambari's code base isn't functional yet and until it is and it is difficult to build a community until a version works. All of the contributors are employed by Hortonworks, which exposes the project to the whims of the company's priorities. There's a new code base that has been checked in on a branch that is close to working. Once there is a working version, I hope that community will build. > *As Ambari went nearly 2 months without a single e-mail to the list, I > think an issue for graduation should be added that the community must > demonstrate viability for X more reporting periods (where x IMO is > 2). I agree that Ambari is no where close to graduation and was close to being dead. I hope the new code base will revitalize it. > * The list of completed JIRA issues is not very telling of anything and > might give the impression that the community is more vibrant than it is It was very active for September to January. I explicitly called out that the project had been dormant since January. > Also, I noticed that ddas signed off on it as a mentor. I don't see him > listed as an Apache member or IPMC member. He was added to the IPMC. The message from Noel was dated 6 Oct 2011. -- Owen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Ambari Status
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Sounds like the project community still needs to learn how to develop > code out in the open. The massive revision 1335750 [1] seems to have > been based on no open discussion on the mailing list or the issue > tracker. There is a new code base that was developed in private, which has momentum. It was checked in on to a development branch and the discussion started. I was hoping for some response to Suhas' message from someone outside of Hortonworks, but so far it has been silent. Unfortunately, the lack of response is another sign that the community hasn't formed yet. > Of course learning that stuff is what the Incubator exists for, so > it's all fine as long as the community is willing to learn and mentors > are there to help. I'm trying my best. -- Owen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Ambari Status
Hey Guys, OK, so it was developed in private, that'll need to be fixed, but it sounds like you are pushing to have it brought out into the open, so good job here, Owen. If you need mentor help to nudge the project along, let me know and I will be happy to scope and help out. I'll start out by joining the dev lists and lurking to see what I can do to help. Cheers, Chris On May 9, 2012, at 10:16 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > >> Sounds like the project community still needs to learn how to develop >> code out in the open. The massive revision 1335750 [1] seems to have >> been based on no open discussion on the mailing list or the issue >> tracker. > > There is a new code base that was developed in private, which has > momentum. It was checked in on to a development branch and the > discussion started. I was hoping for some response to Suhas' message > from someone outside of Hortonworks, but so far it has been silent. > Unfortunately, the lack of response is another sign that the community > hasn't formed yet. > >> Of course learning that stuff is what the Incubator exists for, so >> it's all fine as long as the community is willing to learn and mentors >> are there to help. > > I'm trying my best. > > -- Owen > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
