Re: [VOTE] Release DeltaSpike 0.1-incubating

[Mark Struberg]

Hi Nial!

First, thanks for the review!

Regarding the asc. This is a known Maven side-effect. It's not beautiful but 
doesn't hurt.


Ad the Incubation disclaimer notice.
Thanks for the pointer!

Actually our webpage and documentation aren'tdone yet, but we will make sure to 
include the disclaimer when we create it.

As for the release:
> For releases, the text SHOULD be included in a separate DISCLAIMER file 
> stored alongside the NOTICE and LICENSE files.

I'll go on and add this DISCLAIMER file, so it will be included for the next 
release. Since this is only a _should_ I assume this is ok and we don't need to 
re-roll all the release now.

txs and LieGrue,
strub


- Original Message -
> From: Niall Pemberton 
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 2:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release DeltaSpike 0.1-incubating
> 
> RAT report on the source distro looks good.
> 
> None  of the artifacts (zip or jar files) seem to have the incubator
> disclaimer notice.
> 
> A small but annoying nit: you've gone mad signing and creating
> checksums. Rather than just creating 1 signature file and sha & md5
> checksums for each file there are additional signatures and checksums
> for signatures. Take the deltaspike-core-api-0.1-incubating.jar file,
> for example there are the following 8 files instead of 3:
> 
> deltaspike-core-api-0.1-incubating.jar.asc
> deltaspike-core-api-0.1-incubating.jar.asc.asc
> deltaspike-core-api-0.1-incubating.jar.asc.asc.md5
> deltaspike-core-api-0.1-incubating.jar.asc.asc.sha1
> deltaspike-core-api-0.1-incubating.jar.asc.md5
> deltaspike-core-api-0.1-incubating.jar.asc.sha1
> deltaspike-core-api-0.1-incubating.jar.md5
> deltaspike-core-api-0.1-incubating.jar.sha1
> 
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachedeltaspike-187/org/apache/deltaspike/core/deltaspike-core-api/0.1-incubating/
> 
> Niall
> 
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Gerhard Petracek  
> wrote:
>>  Hi,
>> 
>>  This is the first incubator release for Apache DeltaSpike, with the
>>  artifacts being versioned as 0.1-incubating.
>> 
>>  We have received 16 binding +1 votes (including 4 votes of IPMC members)
>>  during the release voting on deltaspike-dev.
>> 
>>  Vote thread:
>>  http://s.apache.org/Ta2
>> 
>>  Result:
>>  http://s.apache.org/8I3
>> 
>>  Git release branch:
>>  http://s.apache.org/PbX
>>  (It will be pushed to our Apache Git repository after this vote passed.)
>> 
>>  Git release tag:
>>  http://s.apache.org/uC
>>  (It will be pushed to our Apache Git repository after this vote passed.)
>> 
>>  Release notes:
>>  http://s.apache.org/DeltaSpike_01incubating
>> 
>>  Release artifacts:
>>  http://s.apache.org/5hU
>> 
>>  PGP release file (key 2FDB81B1):
>>  http://s.apache.org/wW
>> 
>>  This vote is open for 72 hours.
>> 
>>  
>>  [ ] +1  approve
>>  [ ] +0  no opinion
>>  [ ] -1  disapprove (and reason why)
>>  
>> 
>>  Thanks,
>>  Gerhard
> 
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Mad signing and checksumming (Was: [VOTE] Release DeltaSpike 0.1-incubating)

[Jukka Zitting]

Hi,

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:06 AM, sebb  wrote:
> On 8 February 2012 01:44, Niall Pemberton  wrote:
>> A small but annoying nit: you've gone mad signing and creating
>
> AFAIK, this is a known bug with Nexus and/or Maven.

I know the problem with .asc.md5 and .asc.sha1 [1], but not the one
with .asc.asc and .asc.asc.*. Is this a new generic issue, or just
something specific to the DeltaSpike build?

[1] http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MDEPLOY-73

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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Re: Mad signing and checksumming (Was: [VOTE] Release DeltaSpike 0.1-incubating)

[Emmanuel Lecharny]

On 2/8/12 11:41 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:

Hi,

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:06 AM, sebb  wrote:

On 8 February 2012 01:44, Niall Pemberton  wrote:

A small but annoying nit: you've gone mad signing and creating

AFAIK, this is a known bug with Nexus and/or Maven.

I know the problem with .asc.md5 and .asc.sha1 [1], but not the one
with .asc.asc and .asc.asc.*. Is this a new generic issue, or just
something specific to the DeltaSpike build?
We don't use anymore the Maven plugin to sign the package because of 
this problem (asc.asc etc)


Here is a shell script we use instead for Apache Directory, and you have 
to run it manually :


#!/bin/sh
# Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one
# or more contributor license agreements.  See the NOTICE file
# distributed with this work for additional information
# regarding copyright ownership.  The ASF licenses this file
# to you under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the
# "License"); you may not use this file except in compliance
# with the License.  You may obtain a copy of the License at
#
# http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
#
# Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing,
# software distributed under the License is distributed on an
# "AS IS" BASIS, WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY
# KIND, either express or implied.  See the License for the
# specific language governing permissions and limitations
# under the License.

echo "PGP Key ID: "
read DEFAULT_KEY

echo "PGP Key Password: "
stty -echo
read PASSWORD
stty echo
echo ""

for FILE in $(find . -maxdepth 1 -not '(' -name "sign.sh" -or -name ".*" 
-or -name "*.md5" -or -name "*.sha1" -or -name "*.asc" ')' -and -type f) 
; do

if [ -f "$FILE.asc" ]; then
echo "Skipping: $FILE"
continue
fi

echo "Signing: $FILE ... "

# MD5
if [ ! -f "$FILE.md5" ];
then
openssl md5 < "$FILE" | cut "-d " -f2 > "$FILE.md5"
echo "  - Generated '$FILE.md5'"
else
echo "  - Skipped '$FILE.md5' (file already existing)"
fi

# SHA1
if [ ! -f "$FILE.sha1" ];
then
gpg --default-key "$DEFAULT_KEY" --print-md SHA1 "$FILE" > 
"$FILE".sha1

echo "  - Generated '$FILE.sha1'"
else
echo "  - Skipped '$FILE.sha1' (file already existing)"
fi

# ASC
if [ ! -f "$FILE.asc" ];
then
echo "$PASSWORD" | gpg --default-key "$DEFAULT_KEY" 
--detach-sign --armor --no-tty --yes --passphrase-fd 0 "$FILE"

echo "  - Generated '$FILE.asc'"
else
echo "  - Skipped '$FILE.asc' (file already existing)"
fi
done


In Apache Directory Studio, we also use this script, but it's called 
from maven :



org.apache.maven.plugins
maven-antrun-plugin


unzip-copy-files
process-resources



includes="ApacheDirectoryStudio-*.zip"/>


file="${project.build.directory}/ApacheDirectoryStudio-macosx-x86-dmg-${version}/ApacheDirectoryStudio-macosx-x86-${version}.dmg" 
todir="${release-dir}" />
file="${project.build.directory}/ApacheDirectoryStudio-macosx-x86_64-dmg-${version}/ApacheDirectoryStudio-macosx-x86_64-${version}.dmg" 
todir="${release-dir}" />
file="${project.build.directory}/ApacheDirectoryStudio-win32-x86-exe-${version}/ApacheDirectoryStudio-win32-x86-${version}.exe" 
todir="${release-dir}" />
file="${project.build.directory}/ApacheDirectoryStudio-win32-x86_64-exe-${version}/ApacheDirectoryStudio-win32-x86_64-${version}.exe" 
todir="${release-dir}" />


dir="${project.build.directory}/ApacheDirectoryStudio-updatesite-${version}"/>











run




Ok, I can understand if it makes you puke...

I *wish* the bug is fixed in maven... All in all, it's *just* 4 years 
this issue is opened...



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Regards,
Cordialement,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com


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Re: [VOTE] Chukwa 0.5.0 Release Candidate 3

[Steve Loughran]

On 20/01/12 06:46, Eric Yang wrote:

Still missing one IPMC vote.  Could someone help out?


+1

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[VOTE] Release jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating (RC2)

[Andy Seaborne]

The Jena PPMC has voted to release

  Apache Jena TDB 0.9.0-incubating

and we would now be grateful if members of IPMC would review and vote 
for this release.


== Overview

This will be the second incubator release for by Jena; it's the first 
Apache release for the TDB module.


Jena is composed of a number of modules.  Historically, they have been 
released semi-independently, sort of "flying in formation".  We intend 
to switch to a more integrated build process and we want to create the 
time to do that by making this first Apache release of TDB now.


Jena TDB is currently delivered as maven artifacts for the jar and also 
a single distribution file as a zip or tar.gz containing all the jars 
and their dependencies so users have a "download and unpack" option.


== Project vote

Result:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-jena-dev/201202.mbox/%3C4F324DFA.2050800%40apache.org%3E

Call for VOTE:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-jena-dev/201202.mbox/%3C4F2DA188.6080105%40apache.org%3E

== Staging repository

https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejena-192/

Direct link to TDB area in staging:
http://s.apache.org/apache-jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-RC-2/

== Proposed dist/ area:

The following will be added to the existing distribution area:

http://people.apache.org/~andy/dist-tdb-0.9.0-RC2/

will be added to:
http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/jena/

== Keys

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jena/dist/KEYS

== SVN tag

The module is currently tagged with the version and "-RC-2".  If voted 
on successfully, the tag will be changed ("svn mv") to the same but 
minus the "RC" labelling.


https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jena/Jena2/TDB/tags/jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-RC-2/


Please vote on this release:

  [ ] +1 Approve the release of Apache Jena, module TDB 0.9.0-incubating
  [ ] -1 Don't release, because ...

This vote will be open until:
  Saturday 11/February 23:59 UTC
(72 hours from the same hour tonight).


As well as the vote, we'd also appreciate any feedback for improving our 
release process and project generally.


Andy

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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache BVal as a TLP

[Mohammad Nour El-Din]

Hi...

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Matt Benson  wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Ralph Goers 
> wrote:
> > Is this a discussion thread or a vote thread?  If it is a vote thread
> please restart it with [VOTE]. If you want to discuss whether the project
> should graduate then we can do that.
>
> This is a quick (formal) discussion.  We'd like to proceed to the
> actual VOTE off quite soon (e.g. tomorrow), barring any opposition.
> Since we already went to a vote once before, we don't anticipate that
> anything would preclude this.
>

OK, it seems that there are objections so far, so that encourages me to go
and start a [VOTE] on general@.


>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> > On Feb 7, 2012, at 3:29 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> >
> >> Hi...
> >>
> >>   It has been discussed, since a while, about the graduation of Apache
> >> BVal, whether to graduate to a TLP or Subproject and whether it is time
> or
> >> not, [1], [2] and [3].
> >> In the past few weeks there has been a [VOTE], [4], which formally
> >> discussed the graduation to a TLP project. Result announcement can be
> found
> >> here, [5]. It also has been decided to name the project Apache BVal [6].
> >> The resolution charter content has been discussed and reviewed here [7].
> >>
> >> The Apache Bean Validation community sees it is time to request an IPMC
> >> [VOTE] on recommending this resolution [8] to the ASF board.
> >>
> >> Accordingly, would you please cast your vote:
> >>
> >> [ ] +1 to recommend Bean Validation's graduation
> >> [ ]  0 don't care
> >> [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, (because...)
> >>
> >> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
> >>
> >> [1] - http://s.apache.org/oTC
> >> [2] - http://s.apache.org/I8C
> >> [3] - http://s.apache.org/EQE
> >> [4] - http://s.apache.org/rU
> >> [5] - http://s.apache.org/7Sw
> >> [6] - http://s.apache.org/tY
> >> 
> >> [7] - *http://s.apache.org/49R*
> >> [8] - see below:
> >>
> >> ## Resolution to create a TLP from graduating Incubator podling
> >>
> >>X. Establish the Apache BVal Project
> >>
> >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> >> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> >> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> >> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> >> open-source software related to the Bean Validation
> >> Specification and its implementation as Apache BVal
> >> for distribution at no charge to the public.
> >>
> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> >> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache BVal Project",
> >> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> >> Foundation; and be it further
> >>
> >> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby is
> >> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> >> related to creating an implementation compliant with the
> >> Bean Validation Specification and a library of pre-developed
> >> validators and extensions; and be it further
> >>
> >> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache BVal" be
> >> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> >> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> >> of the Apache BVal Project, and to have primary responsibility
> >> for management of the projects within the scope of
> >> responsibility of the Apache BVal Project; and be it further
> >>
> >> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> >> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> >> Apache BVal Project:
> >>
> >>   - Albert Lee 
> >>   - Carlos Vara Callau 
> >>   - David Jencks 
> >>   - Donald Woods 
> >>   - Gerhard Petracek 
> >>   - Jeremy Bauer 
> >>   - Kevan Lee Miller 
> >>   - Luciano Resende 
> >>   - Matthias Wessendorf 
> >>   - Matthew Jason Benson 
> >>   - Mohammad Nour El-Din 
> >>   - Niall Pemberton 
> >>   - Roman Stumm 
> >>   - Simone Tripodi 
> >>   - Mark Struberg 
> >>
> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
> >> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache BVal, to
> >> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> >> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> >> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> >> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >>
> >> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache BVal PMC be and hereby is
> >> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> >> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> >> Apache BVal Project; and be it further
> >>
> >> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby
> >> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> >> Incubator Bean Validation podling; and be it further
> >>
> >> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> >> Incubator Bean Validation podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> >> Project are hereafter dis

[VOTE] Apache BVal as a TLP

[Mohammad Nour El-Din]

Hi...

   It has been discussed, since a while, about the graduation of Apache
BVal, whether to graduate to a TLP or Subproject and whether it is time or
not, [1], [2] and [3].
In the past few weeks there has been a [VOTE], [4], which formally
discussed the graduation to a TLP project. Result announcement can be found
here, [5]. It also has been decided to name the project Apache BVal [6].
The resolution charter content has been discussed and reviewed here [7].

*NOTE*: As per Niall's request, his name has been removed from the proposed
PMC [8].

The Apache Bean Validation community sees it is time to request an IPMC
[VOTE] on recommending this resolution [9] to the ASF board.

Accordingly, would you please cast your vote:

[ ] +1 to recommend Bean Validation's graduation
[ ]  0 don't care
[ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, (because...)

The vote will be open for 72 hours.

[1] - http://s.apache.org/oTC
[2] - http://s.apache.org/I8C
[3] - http://s.apache.org/EQE
[4] - http://s.apache.org/rU
[5] - http://s.apache.org/7Sw
[6] - http://s.apache.org/tY

[7] - *http://s.apache.org/49R*
[8] - http://s.apache.org/JYS
[9] - See below:

## Resolution to create a TLP from graduating Incubator podling

X. Establish the Apache BVal Project

 WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software related to the Bean Validation
Specification and its implementation as Apache BVal
for distribution at no charge to the public.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache BVal Project",
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to creating an implementation compliant with the
Bean Validation Specification and a library of pre-developed
validators and extensions; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache BVal" be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache BVal Project, and to have primary responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache BVal Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache BVal Project:

   - Albert Lee 
   - Carlos Vara Callau 
   - David Jencks 
   - Donald Woods 
   - Gerhard Petracek 
   - Jeremy Bauer 
   - Kevan Lee Miller 
   - Luciano Resende 
   - Matthias Wessendorf 
   - Matthew Jason Benson 
   - Mohammad Nour El-Din 
   - Roman Stumm 
   - Simone Tripodi 
   - Mark Struberg 

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache BVal, to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache BVal PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache BVal Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator Bean Validation podling; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator Bean Validation podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.
-- 
Thanks
- Mohammad Nour

"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
- Albert Einstein

Re: [VOTE] Apache BVal as a TLP

[Mattmann, Chris A (388J)]

+1 (binding). Good luck guys!

Cheers,
Chris

On Feb 8, 2012, at 6:39 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:

> Hi...
> 
>   It has been discussed, since a while, about the graduation of Apache
> BVal, whether to graduate to a TLP or Subproject and whether it is time or
> not, [1], [2] and [3].
> In the past few weeks there has been a [VOTE], [4], which formally
> discussed the graduation to a TLP project. Result announcement can be found
> here, [5]. It also has been decided to name the project Apache BVal [6].
> The resolution charter content has been discussed and reviewed here [7].
> 
> *NOTE*: As per Niall's request, his name has been removed from the proposed
> PMC [8].
> 
> The Apache Bean Validation community sees it is time to request an IPMC
> [VOTE] on recommending this resolution [9] to the ASF board.
> 
> Accordingly, would you please cast your vote:
> 
> [ ] +1 to recommend Bean Validation's graduation
> [ ]  0 don't care
> [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, (because...)
> 
> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
> 
> [1] - http://s.apache.org/oTC
> [2] - http://s.apache.org/I8C
> [3] - http://s.apache.org/EQE
> [4] - http://s.apache.org/rU
> [5] - http://s.apache.org/7Sw
> [6] - http://s.apache.org/tY
> 
> [7] - *http://s.apache.org/49R*
> [8] - http://s.apache.org/JYS
> [9] - See below:
> 
> ## Resolution to create a TLP from graduating Incubator podling
> 
>X. Establish the Apache BVal Project
> 
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software related to the Bean Validation
> Specification and its implementation as Apache BVal
> for distribution at no charge to the public.
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache BVal Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to creating an implementation compliant with the
> Bean Validation Specification and a library of pre-developed
> validators and extensions; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache BVal" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache BVal Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache BVal Project; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache BVal Project:
> 
>   - Albert Lee 
>   - Carlos Vara Callau 
>   - David Jencks 
>   - Donald Woods 
>   - Gerhard Petracek 
>   - Jeremy Bauer 
>   - Kevan Lee Miller 
>   - Luciano Resende 
>   - Matthias Wessendorf 
>   - Matthew Jason Benson 
>   - Mohammad Nour El-Din 
>   - Roman Stumm 
>   - Simone Tripodi 
>   - Mark Struberg 
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache BVal, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache BVal PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache BVal Project; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Bean Validation podling; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Bean Validation podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
> -- 
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> 
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein


++
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Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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Re: [VOTE] Apache BVal as a TLP

[Gerhard Petracek]

+1

regards,
gerhard



2012/2/8 Mohammad Nour El-Din 

> Hi...
>
>   It has been discussed, since a while, about the graduation of Apache
> BVal, whether to graduate to a TLP or Subproject and whether it is time or
> not, [1], [2] and [3].
> In the past few weeks there has been a [VOTE], [4], which formally
> discussed the graduation to a TLP project. Result announcement can be found
> here, [5]. It also has been decided to name the project Apache BVal [6].
> The resolution charter content has been discussed and reviewed here [7].
>
> *NOTE*: As per Niall's request, his name has been removed from the proposed
> PMC [8].
>
> The Apache Bean Validation community sees it is time to request an IPMC
> [VOTE] on recommending this resolution [9] to the ASF board.
>
> Accordingly, would you please cast your vote:
>
> [ ] +1 to recommend Bean Validation's graduation
> [ ]  0 don't care
> [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, (because...)
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
>
> [1] - http://s.apache.org/oTC
> [2] - http://s.apache.org/I8C
> [3] - http://s.apache.org/EQE
> [4] - http://s.apache.org/rU
> [5] - http://s.apache.org/7Sw
> [6] - http://s.apache.org/tY
> 
> [7] - *http://s.apache.org/49R*
> [8] - http://s.apache.org/JYS
> [9] - See below:
>
> ## Resolution to create a TLP from graduating Incubator podling
>
>X. Establish the Apache BVal Project
>
>  WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software related to the Bean Validation
> Specification and its implementation as Apache BVal
> for distribution at no charge to the public.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache BVal Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to creating an implementation compliant with the
> Bean Validation Specification and a library of pre-developed
> validators and extensions; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache BVal" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache BVal Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache BVal Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache BVal Project:
>
>   - Albert Lee 
>   - Carlos Vara Callau 
>   - David Jencks 
>   - Donald Woods 
>   - Gerhard Petracek 
>   - Jeremy Bauer 
>   - Kevan Lee Miller 
>   - Luciano Resende 
>   - Matthias Wessendorf 
>   - Matthew Jason Benson 
>   - Mohammad Nour El-Din 
>   - Roman Stumm 
>   - Simone Tripodi 
>   - Mark Struberg 
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache BVal, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache BVal PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache BVal Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Bean Validation podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Bean Validation podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
> --
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> 
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache BVal as a TLP

[Matt Benson]

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
 wrote:
> Hi...
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Matt Benson  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Ralph Goers 
>> wrote:
>> > Is this a discussion thread or a vote thread?  If it is a vote thread
>> > please restart it with [VOTE]. If you want to discuss whether the project
>> > should graduate then we can do that.
>>
>> This is a quick (formal) discussion.  We'd like to proceed to the
>> actual VOTE off quite soon (e.g. tomorrow), barring any opposition.
>> Since we already went to a vote once before, we don't anticipate that
>> anything would preclude this.
>
>
> OK, it seems that there are objections so far, so that encourages me to go
> and start a [VOTE] on general@.

*No* objections, you mean, of course.  ;)

Matt

>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Matt
>>
>> >
>> > Ralph
>> >
>> > On Feb 7, 2012, at 3:29 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi...
>> >>
>> >>   It has been discussed, since a while, about the graduation of Apache
>> >> BVal, whether to graduate to a TLP or Subproject and whether it is time
>> >> or
>> >> not, [1], [2] and [3].
>> >> In the past few weeks there has been a [VOTE], [4], which formally
>> >> discussed the graduation to a TLP project. Result announcement can be
>> >> found
>> >> here, [5]. It also has been decided to name the project Apache BVal
>> >> [6].
>> >> The resolution charter content has been discussed and reviewed here
>> >> [7].
>> >>
>> >> The Apache Bean Validation community sees it is time to request an IPMC
>> >> [VOTE] on recommending this resolution [8] to the ASF board.
>> >>
>> >> Accordingly, would you please cast your vote:
>> >>
>> >> [ ] +1 to recommend Bean Validation's graduation
>> >> [ ]  0 don't care
>> >> [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, (because...)
>> >>
>> >> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
>> >>
>> >> [1] - http://s.apache.org/oTC
>> >> [2] - http://s.apache.org/I8C
>> >> [3] - http://s.apache.org/EQE
>> >> [4] - http://s.apache.org/rU
>> >> [5] - http://s.apache.org/7Sw
>> >> [6] - http://s.apache.org/tY
>> >> 
>> >> [7] - *http://s.apache.org/49R*
>> >> [8] - see below:
>> >>
>> >> ## Resolution to create a TLP from graduating Incubator podling
>> >>
>> >>    X. Establish the Apache BVal Project
>> >>
>> >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>> >> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>> >> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>> >> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>> >> open-source software related to the Bean Validation
>> >> Specification and its implementation as Apache BVal
>> >> for distribution at no charge to the public.
>> >>
>> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>> >> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache BVal Project",
>> >> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>> >> Foundation; and be it further
>> >>
>> >> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby is
>> >> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>> >> related to creating an implementation compliant with the
>> >> Bean Validation Specification and a library of pre-developed
>> >> validators and extensions; and be it further
>> >>
>> >> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache BVal" be
>> >> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>> >> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>> >> of the Apache BVal Project, and to have primary responsibility
>> >> for management of the projects within the scope of
>> >> responsibility of the Apache BVal Project; and be it further
>> >>
>> >> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>> >> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>> >> Apache BVal Project:
>> >>
>> >>   - Albert Lee 
>> >>   - Carlos Vara Callau 
>> >>   - David Jencks 
>> >>   - Donald Woods 
>> >>   - Gerhard Petracek 
>> >>   - Jeremy Bauer 
>> >>   - Kevan Lee Miller 
>> >>   - Luciano Resende 
>> >>   - Matthias Wessendorf 
>> >>   - Matthew Jason Benson 
>> >>   - Mohammad Nour El-Din 
>> >>   - Niall Pemberton 
>> >>   - Roman Stumm 
>> >>   - Simone Tripodi 
>> >>   - Mark Struberg 
>> >>
>> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
>> >> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache BVal, to
>> >> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>> >> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>> >> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>> >> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>> >>
>> >> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache BVal PMC be and hereby is
>> >> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>> >> encourage open development and increased participation in the
>> >> Apache BVal Project; and be it further
>> >>
>> >> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby
>> >> is tasked with the migration and r

Re: [VOTE] Apache BVal as a TLP

[Matt Benson]

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din  wrote:
> Hi...
>
>   It has been discussed, since a while, about the graduation of Apache
> BVal, whether to graduate to a TLP or Subproject and whether it is time or
> not, [1], [2] and [3].
> In the past few weeks there has been a [VOTE], [4], which formally
> discussed the graduation to a TLP project. Result announcement can be found
> here, [5]. It also has been decided to name the project Apache BVal [6].
> The resolution charter content has been discussed and reviewed here [7].
>
> *NOTE*: As per Niall's request, his name has been removed from the proposed
> PMC [8].
>
> The Apache Bean Validation community sees it is time to request an IPMC
> [VOTE] on recommending this resolution [9] to the ASF board.
>
> Accordingly, would you please cast your vote:
>
> [X] +1 to recommend Bean Validation's graduation
> [ ]  0 don't care
> [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, (because...)

+1 (binding)

Matt

>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
>
> [1] - http://s.apache.org/oTC
> [2] - http://s.apache.org/I8C
> [3] - http://s.apache.org/EQE
> [4] - http://s.apache.org/rU
> [5] - http://s.apache.org/7Sw
> [6] - http://s.apache.org/tY
> 
> [7] - *http://s.apache.org/49R*
> [8] - http://s.apache.org/JYS
> [9] - See below:
>
> ## Resolution to create a TLP from graduating Incubator podling
>
>    X. Establish the Apache BVal Project
>
>  WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software related to the Bean Validation
> Specification and its implementation as Apache BVal
> for distribution at no charge to the public.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache BVal Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to creating an implementation compliant with the
> Bean Validation Specification and a library of pre-developed
> validators and extensions; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache BVal" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache BVal Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache BVal Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache BVal Project:
>
>   - Albert Lee 
>   - Carlos Vara Callau 
>   - David Jencks 
>   - Donald Woods 
>   - Gerhard Petracek 
>   - Jeremy Bauer 
>   - Kevan Lee Miller 
>   - Luciano Resende 
>   - Matthias Wessendorf 
>   - Matthew Jason Benson 
>   - Mohammad Nour El-Din 
>   - Roman Stumm 
>   - Simone Tripodi 
>   - Mark Struberg 
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache BVal, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache BVal PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache BVal Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Bean Validation podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Bean Validation podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
> --
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> 
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein

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Re: Machine account request - "www.apache.org"

[Florian Holeczek]

Hi all,

Tony, thanks for your explanation.

@Incubator PMC:
The topic is "Project ready to comply with ASF mirroring guidelines" from the 
Incubation Policy: 
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator
It's only a SHALL task, but to me it even sounds more like a post-graduation 
task, since the path changes after graduation anyway. Could you please clarify 
this?

Thanks and best regards
 Florian Holeczek


- Ursprüngliche Mail -
Von: "Tony Stevenson" 
An: "Florian Holeczek" 
CC: infrastruct...@apache.org, "JSPWiki private list" 

Gesendet: Montag, 6. Februar 2012 23:57:36
Betreff: Re: Machine account request - "www.apache.org"

On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 10:52:28PM +, Tony Stevenson wrote:
>
> Florian,
>
> Please use  https://id.apache.org/acreq/  to request accounts.
> As per http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newcommitter

If these are existing accounts, then that is different.  We do not allow 
committers to have shell access on any machine other than people.apache.org, 
other than PMC specific VMs, or if you are a member of Infra.
That guide looks very out of date, and is not for mirroring websites, but 
making your projects' released code available on the mirror service.

The best way to do this will be for your released artifacts to go into dist.a.o 
(SVN repo) and this will need to be setup by infra (on request via a JIRA 
ticket), and future updates will be automatically pushed to the mirrors.


>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 11:39:57PM +0100, Florian Holeczek wrote:
> > Userids: juanpablo, florianh
> > Machine: www.apache.org
> > Groups required: committers, incubator
> > Reason:
> >
> > Hi infrastructure team,
> >
> > preparing graduation of the JSPWiki project, we'd like to have access to 
> > www.apache.org in order to be able to follow step #6 of the "Step-By-Step 
> > Guide To Mirroring Releases" [1].
> >
> > Best regards
> >  Florian Holeczek
> >
> > [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/mirror-step-by-step.html
> >
>
> --
>
> Cheers,
> Tony
>
>
> ---
> Tony Stevenson
>
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> t...@caret.cam.ac.uk
>
> http://blog.pc-tony.com
>
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>



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Re: [VOTE] Apache BVal as a TLP

[Ralph Goers]

+1 (binding)

Ralph

On Feb 8, 2012, at 6:39 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:

> Hi...
> 
>   It has been discussed, since a while, about the graduation of Apache
> BVal, whether to graduate to a TLP or Subproject and whether it is time or
> not, [1], [2] and [3].
> In the past few weeks there has been a [VOTE], [4], which formally
> discussed the graduation to a TLP project. Result announcement can be found
> here, [5]. It also has been decided to name the project Apache BVal [6].
> The resolution charter content has been discussed and reviewed here [7].
> 
> *NOTE*: As per Niall's request, his name has been removed from the proposed
> PMC [8].
> 
> The Apache Bean Validation community sees it is time to request an IPMC
> [VOTE] on recommending this resolution [9] to the ASF board.
> 
> Accordingly, would you please cast your vote:
> 
> [ ] +1 to recommend Bean Validation's graduation
> [ ]  0 don't care
> [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, (because...)
> 
> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
> 
> [1] - http://s.apache.org/oTC
> [2] - http://s.apache.org/I8C
> [3] - http://s.apache.org/EQE
> [4] - http://s.apache.org/rU
> [5] - http://s.apache.org/7Sw
> [6] - http://s.apache.org/tY
> 
> [7] - *http://s.apache.org/49R*
> [8] - http://s.apache.org/JYS
> [9] - See below:
> 
> ## Resolution to create a TLP from graduating Incubator podling
> 
>X. Establish the Apache BVal Project
> 
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software related to the Bean Validation
> Specification and its implementation as Apache BVal
> for distribution at no charge to the public.
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache BVal Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to creating an implementation compliant with the
> Bean Validation Specification and a library of pre-developed
> validators and extensions; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache BVal" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache BVal Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache BVal Project; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache BVal Project:
> 
>   - Albert Lee 
>   - Carlos Vara Callau 
>   - David Jencks 
>   - Donald Woods 
>   - Gerhard Petracek 
>   - Jeremy Bauer 
>   - Kevan Lee Miller 
>   - Luciano Resende 
>   - Matthias Wessendorf 
>   - Matthew Jason Benson 
>   - Mohammad Nour El-Din 
>   - Roman Stumm 
>   - Simone Tripodi 
>   - Mark Struberg 
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache BVal, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache BVal PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache BVal Project; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Bean Validation podling; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Bean Validation podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
> -- 
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> 
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein


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Re: [VOTE] Apache BVal as a TLP

[Mark Struberg]

+1 (binding)

LieGrue,
strub



- Original Message -
> From: Mohammad Nour El-Din 
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: bval-...@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 3:39 PM
> Subject: [VOTE] Apache BVal as a TLP
> 
> Hi...
> 
>    It has been discussed, since a while, about the graduation of Apache
> BVal, whether to graduate to a TLP or Subproject and whether it is time or
> not, [1], [2] and [3].
> In the past few weeks there has been a [VOTE], [4], which formally
> discussed the graduation to a TLP project. Result announcement can be found
> here, [5]. It also has been decided to name the project Apache BVal [6].
> The resolution charter content has been discussed and reviewed here [7].
> 
> *NOTE*: As per Niall's request, his name has been removed from the proposed
> PMC [8].
> 
> The Apache Bean Validation community sees it is time to request an IPMC
> [VOTE] on recommending this resolution [9] to the ASF board.
> 
> Accordingly, would you please cast your vote:
> 
> [ ] +1 to recommend Bean Validation's graduation
> [ ]  0 don't care
> [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, (because...)
> 
> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
> 
> [1] - http://s.apache.org/oTC
> [2] - http://s.apache.org/I8C
> [3] - http://s.apache.org/EQE
> [4] - http://s.apache.org/rU
> [5] - http://s.apache.org/7Sw
> [6] - http://s.apache.org/tY
> 
> [7] - *http://s.apache.org/49R*
> [8] - http://s.apache.org/JYS
> [9] - See below:
> 
> ## Resolution to create a TLP from graduating Incubator podling
> 
>     X. Establish the Apache BVal Project
> 
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software related to the Bean Validation
> Specification and its implementation as Apache BVal
> for distribution at no charge to the public.
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache BVal Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to creating an implementation compliant with the
> Bean Validation Specification and a library of pre-developed
> validators and extensions; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache BVal" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache BVal Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache BVal Project; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache BVal Project:
> 
>    - Albert Lee 
>    - Carlos Vara Callau 
>    - David Jencks 
>    - Donald Woods 
>    - Gerhard Petracek 
>    - Jeremy Bauer 
>    - Kevan Lee Miller 
>    - Luciano Resende 
>    - Matthias Wessendorf 
>    - Matthew Jason Benson 
>    - Mohammad Nour El-Din 
>    - Roman Stumm 
>    - Simone Tripodi 
>    - Mark Struberg 
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache BVal, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache BVal PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache BVal Project; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Bean Validation podling; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Bean Validation podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
> -- 
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> 
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep 
> moving"
> - Albert Einstein
>

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Re: [VOTE] Apache BVal as a TLP

[Luciano Resende]

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:39 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din  wrote:
> Hi...
>
>   It has been discussed, since a while, about the graduation of Apache
> BVal, whether to graduate to a TLP or Subproject and whether it is time or
> not, [1], [2] and [3].
> In the past few weeks there has been a [VOTE], [4], which formally
> discussed the graduation to a TLP project. Result announcement can be found
> here, [5]. It also has been decided to name the project Apache BVal [6].
> The resolution charter content has been discussed and reviewed here [7].
>
> *NOTE*: As per Niall's request, his name has been removed from the proposed
> PMC [8].
>
> The Apache Bean Validation community sees it is time to request an IPMC
> [VOTE] on recommending this resolution [9] to the ASF board.
>
> Accordingly, would you please cast your vote:
>
> [ ] +1 to recommend Bean Validation's graduation
> [ ]  0 don't care
> [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, (because...)
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
>
> [1] - http://s.apache.org/oTC
> [2] - http://s.apache.org/I8C
> [3] - http://s.apache.org/EQE
> [4] - http://s.apache.org/rU
> [5] - http://s.apache.org/7Sw
> [6] - http://s.apache.org/tY
> 
> [7] - *http://s.apache.org/49R*
> [8] - http://s.apache.org/JYS
> [9] - See below:
>
> ## Resolution to create a TLP from graduating Incubator podling
>
>    X. Establish the Apache BVal Project
>
>  WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software related to the Bean Validation
> Specification and its implementation as Apache BVal
> for distribution at no charge to the public.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache BVal Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to creating an implementation compliant with the
> Bean Validation Specification and a library of pre-developed
> validators and extensions; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache BVal" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache BVal Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache BVal Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache BVal Project:
>
>   - Albert Lee 
>   - Carlos Vara Callau 
>   - David Jencks 
>   - Donald Woods 
>   - Gerhard Petracek 
>   - Jeremy Bauer 
>   - Kevan Lee Miller 
>   - Luciano Resende 
>   - Matthias Wessendorf 
>   - Matthew Jason Benson 
>   - Mohammad Nour El-Din 
>   - Roman Stumm 
>   - Simone Tripodi 
>   - Mark Struberg 
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache BVal, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache BVal PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache BVal Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Bean Validation podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Bean Validation podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
> --
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> 
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein

+1

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Re: [VOTE] Apache BVal as a TLP

[David Jencks]

+1

david jencks
On Feb 8, 2012, at 6:39 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:

> Hi...
> 
>   It has been discussed, since a while, about the graduation of Apache
> BVal, whether to graduate to a TLP or Subproject and whether it is time or
> not, [1], [2] and [3].
> In the past few weeks there has been a [VOTE], [4], which formally
> discussed the graduation to a TLP project. Result announcement can be found
> here, [5]. It also has been decided to name the project Apache BVal [6].
> The resolution charter content has been discussed and reviewed here [7].
> 
> *NOTE*: As per Niall's request, his name has been removed from the proposed
> PMC [8].
> 
> The Apache Bean Validation community sees it is time to request an IPMC
> [VOTE] on recommending this resolution [9] to the ASF board.
> 
> Accordingly, would you please cast your vote:
> 
> [ ] +1 to recommend Bean Validation's graduation
> [ ]  0 don't care
> [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, (because...)
> 
> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
> 
> [1] - http://s.apache.org/oTC
> [2] - http://s.apache.org/I8C
> [3] - http://s.apache.org/EQE
> [4] - http://s.apache.org/rU
> [5] - http://s.apache.org/7Sw
> [6] - http://s.apache.org/tY
> 
> [7] - *http://s.apache.org/49R*
> [8] - http://s.apache.org/JYS
> [9] - See below:
> 
> ## Resolution to create a TLP from graduating Incubator podling
> 
>X. Establish the Apache BVal Project
> 
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software related to the Bean Validation
> Specification and its implementation as Apache BVal
> for distribution at no charge to the public.
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache BVal Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to creating an implementation compliant with the
> Bean Validation Specification and a library of pre-developed
> validators and extensions; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache BVal" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache BVal Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache BVal Project; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache BVal Project:
> 
>   - Albert Lee 
>   - Carlos Vara Callau 
>   - David Jencks 
>   - Donald Woods 
>   - Gerhard Petracek 
>   - Jeremy Bauer 
>   - Kevan Lee Miller 
>   - Luciano Resende 
>   - Matthias Wessendorf 
>   - Matthew Jason Benson 
>   - Mohammad Nour El-Din 
>   - Roman Stumm 
>   - Simone Tripodi 
>   - Mark Struberg 
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache BVal, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache BVal PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache BVal Project; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Bean Validation podling; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Bean Validation podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
> -- 
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> 
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein


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Re: [VOTE] Apache BVal as a TLP

[Ate Douma]

+1, good luck!

Ate

On 02/08/2012 03:39 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:

Hi...

It has been discussed, since a while, about the graduation of Apache
BVal, whether to graduate to a TLP or Subproject and whether it is time or
not, [1], [2] and [3].
In the past few weeks there has been a [VOTE], [4], which formally
discussed the graduation to a TLP project. Result announcement can be found
here, [5]. It also has been decided to name the project Apache BVal [6].
The resolution charter content has been discussed and reviewed here [7].

*NOTE*: As per Niall's request, his name has been removed from the proposed
PMC [8].

The Apache Bean Validation community sees it is time to request an IPMC
[VOTE] on recommending this resolution [9] to the ASF board.

Accordingly, would you please cast your vote:

[ ] +1 to recommend Bean Validation's graduation
[ ]  0 don't care
[ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, (because...)

The vote will be open for 72 hours.

[1] - http://s.apache.org/oTC
[2] - http://s.apache.org/I8C
[3] - http://s.apache.org/EQE
[4] - http://s.apache.org/rU
[5] - http://s.apache.org/7Sw
[6] - http://s.apache.org/tY

[7] - *http://s.apache.org/49R*
[8] - http://s.apache.org/JYS
[9] - See below:

## Resolution to create a TLP from graduating Incubator podling

 X. Establish the Apache BVal Project

  WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software related to the Bean Validation
Specification and its implementation as Apache BVal
for distribution at no charge to the public.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache BVal Project",
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to creating an implementation compliant with the
Bean Validation Specification and a library of pre-developed
validators and extensions; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache BVal" be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache BVal Project, and to have primary responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache BVal Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache BVal Project:

- Albert Lee
- Carlos Vara Callau
- David Jencks
- Donald Woods
- Gerhard Petracek
- Jeremy Bauer
- Kevan Lee Miller
- Luciano Resende
- Matthias Wessendorf
- Matthew Jason Benson
- Mohammad Nour El-Din
- Roman Stumm
- Simone Tripodi
- Mark Struberg

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache BVal, to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache BVal PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache BVal Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator Bean Validation podling; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator Bean Validation podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.



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Re: [VOTE] Apache BVal as a TLP

[Tommaso Teofili]

+1 (binding)
Tommaso

2012/2/8 Mohammad Nour El-Din 

> Hi...
>
>   It has been discussed, since a while, about the graduation of Apache
> BVal, whether to graduate to a TLP or Subproject and whether it is time or
> not, [1], [2] and [3].
> In the past few weeks there has been a [VOTE], [4], which formally
> discussed the graduation to a TLP project. Result announcement can be found
> here, [5]. It also has been decided to name the project Apache BVal [6].
> The resolution charter content has been discussed and reviewed here [7].
>
> *NOTE*: As per Niall's request, his name has been removed from the proposed
> PMC [8].
>
> The Apache Bean Validation community sees it is time to request an IPMC
> [VOTE] on recommending this resolution [9] to the ASF board.
>
> Accordingly, would you please cast your vote:
>
> [ ] +1 to recommend Bean Validation's graduation
> [ ]  0 don't care
> [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, (because...)
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
>
> [1] - http://s.apache.org/oTC
> [2] - http://s.apache.org/I8C
> [3] - http://s.apache.org/EQE
> [4] - http://s.apache.org/rU
> [5] - http://s.apache.org/7Sw
> [6] - http://s.apache.org/tY
> 
> [7] - *http://s.apache.org/49R*
> [8] - http://s.apache.org/JYS
> [9] - See below:
>
> ## Resolution to create a TLP from graduating Incubator podling
>
>X. Establish the Apache BVal Project
>
>  WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software related to the Bean Validation
> Specification and its implementation as Apache BVal
> for distribution at no charge to the public.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache BVal Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to creating an implementation compliant with the
> Bean Validation Specification and a library of pre-developed
> validators and extensions; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache BVal" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache BVal Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache BVal Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache BVal Project:
>
>   - Albert Lee 
>   - Carlos Vara Callau 
>   - David Jencks 
>   - Donald Woods 
>   - Gerhard Petracek 
>   - Jeremy Bauer 
>   - Kevan Lee Miller 
>   - Luciano Resende 
>   - Matthias Wessendorf 
>   - Matthew Jason Benson 
>   - Mohammad Nour El-Din 
>   - Roman Stumm 
>   - Simone Tripodi 
>   - Mark Struberg 
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache BVal, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache BVal PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache BVal Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Bean Validation podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Bean Validation podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
> --
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> 
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein
>

Re: [VOTE] Apache BVal as a TLP

[Kevan Miller]

+1

--kevan

On Feb 8, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:

> Hi...
> 
>   It has been discussed, since a while, about the graduation of Apache
> BVal, whether to graduate to a TLP or Subproject and whether it is time or
> not, [1], [2] and [3].
> In the past few weeks there has been a [VOTE], [4], which formally
> discussed the graduation to a TLP project. Result announcement can be found
> here, [5]. It also has been decided to name the project Apache BVal [6].
> The resolution charter content has been discussed and reviewed here [7].
> 
> *NOTE*: As per Niall's request, his name has been removed from the proposed
> PMC [8].
> 
> The Apache Bean Validation community sees it is time to request an IPMC
> [VOTE] on recommending this resolution [9] to the ASF board.
> 
> Accordingly, would you please cast your vote:
> 
> [ ] +1 to recommend Bean Validation's graduation
> [ ]  0 don't care
> [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, (because...)
> 
> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
> 
> [1] - http://s.apache.org/oTC
> [2] - http://s.apache.org/I8C
> [3] - http://s.apache.org/EQE
> [4] - http://s.apache.org/rU
> [5] - http://s.apache.org/7Sw
> [6] - http://s.apache.org/tY
> 
> [7] - *http://s.apache.org/49R*
> [8] - http://s.apache.org/JYS
> [9] - See below:
> 
> ## Resolution to create a TLP from graduating Incubator podling
> 
>X. Establish the Apache BVal Project
> 
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software related to the Bean Validation
> Specification and its implementation as Apache BVal
> for distribution at no charge to the public.
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache BVal Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to creating an implementation compliant with the
> Bean Validation Specification and a library of pre-developed
> validators and extensions; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache BVal" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache BVal Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache BVal Project; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache BVal Project:
> 
>   - Albert Lee 
>   - Carlos Vara Callau 
>   - David Jencks 
>   - Donald Woods 
>   - Gerhard Petracek 
>   - Jeremy Bauer 
>   - Kevan Lee Miller 
>   - Luciano Resende 
>   - Matthias Wessendorf 
>   - Matthew Jason Benson 
>   - Mohammad Nour El-Din 
>   - Roman Stumm 
>   - Simone Tripodi 
>   - Mark Struberg 
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache BVal, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache BVal PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache BVal Project; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Bean Validation podling; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Bean Validation podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
> -- 
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> 
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein


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February report review

[Jukka Zitting]

Hi,

The podling reports this month [1] seem pretty good in general.

I spent some time unifying report formatting and fixing some minor
issues (like Stanbol needing an intro paragraph). I also pinged
NPanday and Zeta Components that have still not reported (both also
missed their previous report), asking them to report again next month
unless they already have something ready. HISE didn't report as the
project is just about to retire.

Based on the submitted reports I'd divide the projects into the
following three rough categories:

1) Still getting started at the Incubator (7 podlings)
   - Any23
   - Bloodhound
   - Cordova
   - DeltaSpike
   - DeviceMap
   - Flex
   - Openmeetings

2) Not yet ready to graduate, categorized by most pressing issue (12 podlings)
   2a) IP clearance: Amber
   2b) Release trouble: Clerezza, Stanbol
   2c) Low activity: Ambari, Nuvem, PhotArk, SIS, Wink
   2d) Low diversity: Airavata, Droids, VCL, Wookie

3) Ready to graduate (3 podlings)
   - Jena
   - Lucene.NET
   - OpenNLP

Also, I looked at the number of mentors signing off a report. Most had
at least two explicit sign-offs, which is pretty good. Here's the list
of projects with less than that:

- no signoffs: Amber, OpenNLP
- one signoff: Any23, Ambari, Jena, Lucene.NET, Nuvem, Openmeetings,
PhotArk, Wink

I'm not yet sure how useful (or even meaningful) summaries like this
are. If people find this summary useful or more importantly something
we can act on, then we could try doing it again for future reports.

[1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2012

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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Re: February report review

[Joe Schaefer]

Nice job Jukka.  For me the biggest uptick from Jan was the mentor
participation in the sign-offs, clearly people are taking more time
reading these reports now.


The single-signoff or non-signoff projects are an area of concern
should a pattern emerge.  Perhaps we need to take a closer look at
mentor activity in those projects and adjust if need be.

Anybody know what the holdup is for Amber regarding IP Clearance?


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> From: Jukka Zitting 
> To: general 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 12:37 PM
> Subject: February report review
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The podling reports this month [1] seem pretty good in general.
> 
> I spent some time unifying report formatting and fixing some minor
> issues (like Stanbol needing an intro paragraph). I also pinged
> NPanday and Zeta Components that have still not reported (both also
> missed their previous report), asking them to report again next month
> unless they already have something ready. HISE didn't report as the
> project is just about to retire.
> 
> Based on the submitted reports I'd divide the projects into the
> following three rough categories:
> 
> 1) Still getting started at the Incubator (7 podlings)
>    - Any23
>    - Bloodhound
>    - Cordova
>    - DeltaSpike
>    - DeviceMap
>    - Flex
>    - Openmeetings
> 
> 2) Not yet ready to graduate, categorized by most pressing issue (12 podlings)
>    2a) IP clearance: Amber
>    2b) Release trouble: Clerezza, Stanbol
>    2c) Low activity: Ambari, Nuvem, PhotArk, SIS, Wink
>    2d) Low diversity: Airavata, Droids, VCL, Wookie
> 
> 3) Ready to graduate (3 podlings)
>    - Jena
>    - Lucene.NET
>    - OpenNLP
> 
> Also, I looked at the number of mentors signing off a report. Most had
> at least two explicit sign-offs, which is pretty good. Here's the list
> of projects with less than that:
> 
> - no signoffs: Amber, OpenNLP
> - one signoff: Any23, Ambari, Jena, Lucene.NET, Nuvem, Openmeetings,
> PhotArk, Wink
> 
> I'm not yet sure how useful (or even meaningful) summaries like this
> are. If people find this summary useful or more importantly something
> we can act on, then we could try doing it again for future reports.
> 
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2012
> 
> BR,
> 
> Jukka Zitting
> 
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Re: February report review

[Luciano Resende]

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Jukka Zitting  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The podling reports this month [1] seem pretty good in general.
>
> I spent some time unifying report formatting and fixing some minor
> issues (like Stanbol needing an intro paragraph). I also pinged
> NPanday and Zeta Components that have still not reported (both also
> missed their previous report), asking them to report again next month
> unless they already have something ready. HISE didn't report as the
> project is just about to retire.
>
> Based on the submitted reports I'd divide the projects into the
> following three rough categories:
>
> 1) Still getting started at the Incubator (7 podlings)
>   - Any23
>   - Bloodhound
>   - Cordova
>   - DeltaSpike
>   - DeviceMap
>   - Flex
>   - Openmeetings
>
> 2) Not yet ready to graduate, categorized by most pressing issue (12 podlings)
>   2a) IP clearance: Amber
>   2b) Release trouble: Clerezza, Stanbol
>   2c) Low activity: Ambari, Nuvem, PhotArk, SIS, Wink
>   2d) Low diversity: Airavata, Droids, VCL, Wookie
>
> 3) Ready to graduate (3 podlings)
>   - Jena
>   - Lucene.NET
>   - OpenNLP
>
> Also, I looked at the number of mentors signing off a report. Most had
> at least two explicit sign-offs, which is pretty good. Here's the list
> of projects with less than that:
>
> - no signoffs: Amber, OpenNLP
> - one signoff: Any23, Ambari, Jena, Lucene.NET, Nuvem, Openmeetings,
> PhotArk, Wink
>
> I'm not yet sure how useful (or even meaningful) summaries like this
> are. If people find this summary useful or more importantly something
> we can act on, then we could try doing it again for future reports.
>
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2012
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
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Jukka, Thanks for doing this. This is very good and useful information
that can help us identify and focus on the podlings that need to
graduate or that are in trouble and need help.


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Re: February report review

[Antonio Sanso]

Hi Joe,

On Feb 8, 2012, at 6:42 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

> Anybody know what the holdup is for Amber regarding IP Clearance?

I think [0] summarizes it pretty well

Regards

Antonio

[0] http://amber.markmail.org/message/yrcy376p5cmvxv5q


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Re: February report review

[Christian Grobmeier]

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Jukka Zitting  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The podling reports this month [1] seem pretty good in general.
>
> I spent some time unifying report formatting and fixing some minor
> issues (like Stanbol needing an intro paragraph). I also pinged
> NPanday and Zeta Components that have still not reported (both also
> missed their previous report), asking them to report again next month
> unless they already have something ready. HISE didn't report as the
> project is just about to retire.

Actually (as a previous mentor) I can say Zeta is pretty inactive...
people don't want to let it die, but its more a wish - project
activity says different, unfortunately. This has been like this for a
while now


>
> Based on the submitted reports I'd divide the projects into the
> following three rough categories:
>
> 1) Still getting started at the Incubator (7 podlings)
>   - Any23
>   - Bloodhound
>   - Cordova
>   - DeltaSpike
>   - DeviceMap
>   - Flex
>   - Openmeetings
>
> 2) Not yet ready to graduate, categorized by most pressing issue (12 podlings)
>   2a) IP clearance: Amber
>   2b) Release trouble: Clerezza, Stanbol
>   2c) Low activity: Ambari, Nuvem, PhotArk, SIS, Wink
>   2d) Low diversity: Airavata, Droids, VCL, Wookie
>
> 3) Ready to graduate (3 podlings)
>   - Jena
>   - Lucene.NET
>   - OpenNLP
>
> Also, I looked at the number of mentors signing off a report. Most had
> at least two explicit sign-offs, which is pretty good. Here's the list
> of projects with less than that:
>
> - no signoffs: Amber, OpenNLP
> - one signoff: Any23, Ambari, Jena, Lucene.NET, Nuvem, Openmeetings,
> PhotArk, Wink
>
> I'm not yet sure how useful (or even meaningful) summaries like this
> are. If people find this summary useful or more importantly something
> we can act on, then we could try doing it again for future reports.
>
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2012
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
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Re: February report review

[Sam Ruby]

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Jukka Zitting  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The podling reports this month [1] seem pretty good in general.
>
> I spent some time unifying report formatting and fixing some minor
> issues (like Stanbol needing an intro paragraph). I also pinged
> NPanday and Zeta Components that have still not reported (both also
> missed their previous report), asking them to report again next month
> unless they already have something ready. HISE didn't report as the
> project is just about to retire.
>
> Based on the submitted reports I'd divide the projects into the
> following three rough categories:
>
> 1) Still getting started at the Incubator (7 podlings)
>   - Any23
>   - Bloodhound
>   - Cordova
>   - DeltaSpike
>   - DeviceMap
>   - Flex
>   - Openmeetings
>
> 2) Not yet ready to graduate, categorized by most pressing issue (12 podlings)
>   2a) IP clearance: Amber
>   2b) Release trouble: Clerezza, Stanbol
>   2c) Low activity: Ambari, Nuvem, PhotArk, SIS, Wink
>   2d) Low diversity: Airavata, Droids, VCL, Wookie
>
> 3) Ready to graduate (3 podlings)
>   - Jena
>   - Lucene.NET
>   - OpenNLP
>
> Also, I looked at the number of mentors signing off a report. Most had
> at least two explicit sign-offs, which is pretty good. Here's the list
> of projects with less than that:
>
> - no signoffs: Amber, OpenNLP
> - one signoff: Any23, Ambari, Jena, Lucene.NET, Nuvem, Openmeetings,
> PhotArk, Wink
>
> I'm not yet sure how useful (or even meaningful) summaries like this
> are. If people find this summary useful or more importantly something
> we can act on, then we could try doing it again for future reports.

This demonstrates active oversight.  I particularly like the asking of
those projects that didn't report to do so next month.

In fact, I would go further.  Freeze the wiki page, add a link, and
submit this as the Incubator report for this month to the board.

I don't mean this to sound like a "yes, but", but you have identified
12 podlings that aren't new and aren't ready to graduate.  Are there
active plans to address the top issue identified?If there are
plans, and there is evidence of recent progress towards resolving the
issue, fine.  Otherwise, please identify what actions the Incubator
PMC should be taking.  That action could be as simple as asking the
podling to report again next month.

> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2012
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting

P.S.  This may very well piss off four people, but have you thought
about being Chair for the Incubator PMC?

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Re: February report review

[Ross Gardler]

Thanks Jukka, a fair exaltation of the projects I'm involved with.

Single sign off should not be a concern. There are a couple of projects
where, for example, I have participated in report composition but have not
signed off. Only one mentor is required to sign off.

Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Feb 8, 2012 5:43 PM, "Joe Schaefer"  wrote:

> Nice job Jukka.  For me the biggest uptick from Jan was the mentor
> participation in the sign-offs, clearly people are taking more time
> reading these reports now.
>
>
> The single-signoff or non-signoff projects are an area of concern
> should a pattern emerge.  Perhaps we need to take a closer look at
> mentor activity in those projects and adjust if need be.
>
> Anybody know what the holdup is for Amber regarding IP Clearance?
>
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: Jukka Zitting 
> > To: general 
> > Cc:
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 12:37 PM
> > Subject: February report review
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The podling reports this month [1] seem pretty good in general.
> >
> > I spent some time unifying report formatting and fixing some minor
> > issues (like Stanbol needing an intro paragraph). I also pinged
> > NPanday and Zeta Components that have still not reported (both also
> > missed their previous report), asking them to report again next month
> > unless they already have something ready. HISE didn't report as the
> > project is just about to retire.
> >
> > Based on the submitted reports I'd divide the projects into the
> > following three rough categories:
> >
> > 1) Still getting started at the Incubator (7 podlings)
> >- Any23
> >- Bloodhound
> >- Cordova
> >- DeltaSpike
> >- DeviceMap
> >- Flex
> >- Openmeetings
> >
> > 2) Not yet ready to graduate, categorized by most pressing issue (12
> podlings)
> >2a) IP clearance: Amber
> >2b) Release trouble: Clerezza, Stanbol
> >2c) Low activity: Ambari, Nuvem, PhotArk, SIS, Wink
> >2d) Low diversity: Airavata, Droids, VCL, Wookie
> >
> > 3) Ready to graduate (3 podlings)
> >- Jena
> >- Lucene.NET
> >- OpenNLP
> >
> > Also, I looked at the number of mentors signing off a report. Most had
> > at least two explicit sign-offs, which is pretty good. Here's the list
> > of projects with less than that:
> >
> > - no signoffs: Amber, OpenNLP
> > - one signoff: Any23, Ambari, Jena, Lucene.NET, Nuvem, Openmeetings,
> > PhotArk, Wink
> >
> > I'm not yet sure how useful (or even meaningful) summaries like this
> > are. If people find this summary useful or more importantly something
> > we can act on, then we could try doing it again for future reports.
> >
> > [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2012
> >
> > BR,
> >
> > Jukka Zitting
> >
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Re: February report review

[Joe Schaefer]

Let's reset expectations then so that every
mentor is expected to sign-off on reports.
That way we have a better way of surveying
whether or not a podling is getting it's
share of active participation from mentors.




>
> From: Ross Gardler 
>To: Joe Schaefer ; general@incubator.apache.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 1:41 PM
>Subject: Re: February report review
> 
>
>Thanks Jukka, a fair exaltation of the projects I'm involved with.
>Single sign off should not be a concern. There are a couple of projects where, 
>for example, I have participated in report composition but have not signed 
>off. Only one mentor is required to sign off.
>
>
>Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
>On Feb 8, 2012 5:43 PM, "Joe Schaefer"  wrote:
>
>Nice job Jukka.  For me the biggest uptick from Jan was the mentor
>>participation in the sign-offs, clearly people are taking more time
>>reading these reports now.
>>
>>
>>The single-signoff or non-signoff projects are an area of concern
>>should a pattern emerge.  Perhaps we need to take a closer look at
>>mentor activity in those projects and adjust if need be.
>>
>>Anybody know what the holdup is for Amber regarding IP Clearance?
>>
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>> From: Jukka Zitting 
>>> To: general 
>>> Cc:
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 12:37 PM
>>> Subject: February report review
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The podling reports this month [1] seem pretty good in general.
>>>
>>> I spent some time unifying report formatting and fixing some minor
>>> issues (like Stanbol needing an intro paragraph). I also pinged
>>> NPanday and Zeta Components that have still not reported (both also
>>> missed their previous report), asking them to report again next month
>>> unless they already have something ready. HISE didn't report as the
>>> project is just about to retire.
>>>
>>> Based on the submitted reports I'd divide the projects into the
>>> following three rough categories:
>>>
>>> 1) Still getting started at the Incubator (7 podlings)
>>>    - Any23
>>>    - Bloodhound
>>>    - Cordova
>>>    - DeltaSpike
>>>    - DeviceMap
>>>    - Flex
>>>    - Openmeetings
>>>
>>> 2) Not yet ready to graduate, categorized by most pressing issue (12 
>>> podlings)
>>>    2a) IP clearance: Amber
>>>    2b) Release trouble: Clerezza, Stanbol
>>>    2c) Low activity: Ambari, Nuvem, PhotArk, SIS, Wink
>>>    2d) Low diversity: Airavata, Droids, VCL, Wookie
>>>
>>> 3) Ready to graduate (3 podlings)
>>>    - Jena
>>>    - Lucene.NET
>>>    - OpenNLP
>>>
>>> Also, I looked at the number of mentors signing off a report. Most had
>>> at least two explicit sign-offs, which is pretty good. Here's the list
>>> of projects with less than that:
>>>
>>> - no signoffs: Amber, OpenNLP
>>> - one signoff: Any23, Ambari, Jena, Lucene.NET, Nuvem, Openmeetings,
>>> PhotArk, Wink
>>>
>>> I'm not yet sure how useful (or even meaningful) summaries like this
>>> are. If people find this summary useful or more importantly something
>>> we can act on, then we could try doing it again for future reports.
>>>
>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2012
>>>
>>> BR,
>>>
>>> Jukka Zitting
>>>
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Re: February report review

[Joe Schaefer]

>
> From: Sam Ruby 
>To: general@incubator.apache.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 1:37 PM
>Subject: Re: February report review
> 
>On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Jukka Zitting  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> The podling reports this month [1] seem pretty good in general.
>>
>> I spent some time unifying report formatting and fixing some minor
>> issues (like Stanbol needing an intro paragraph). I also pinged
>> NPanday and Zeta Components that have still not reported (both also
>> missed their previous report), asking them to report again next month
>> unless they already have something ready. HISE didn't report as the
>> project is just about to retire.
>>
>> Based on the submitted reports I'd divide the projects into the
>> following three rough categories:
>>
>> 1) Still getting started at the Incubator (7 podlings)
>>   - Any23
>>   - Bloodhound
>>   - Cordova
>>   - DeltaSpike
>>   - DeviceMap
>>   - Flex
>>   - Openmeetings
>>
>> 2) Not yet ready to graduate, categorized by most pressing issue (12 
>> podlings)
>>   2a) IP clearance: Amber
>>   2b) Release trouble: Clerezza, Stanbol
>>   2c) Low activity: Ambari, Nuvem, PhotArk, SIS, Wink
>>   2d) Low diversity: Airavata, Droids, VCL, Wookie
>>
>> 3) Ready to graduate (3 podlings)
>>   - Jena
>>   - Lucene.NET
>>   - OpenNLP
>>
>> Also, I looked at the number of mentors signing off a report. Most had
>> at least two explicit sign-offs, which is pretty good. Here's the list
>> of projects with less than that:
>>
>> - no signoffs: Amber, OpenNLP
>> - one signoff: Any23, Ambari, Jena, Lucene.NET, Nuvem, Openmeetings,
>> PhotArk, Wink
>>
>> I'm not yet sure how useful (or even meaningful) summaries like this
>> are. If people find this summary useful or more importantly something
>> we can act on, then we could try doing it again for future reports.
>
>This demonstrates active oversight.  I particularly like the asking of
>those projects that didn't report to do so next month.
>
>In fact, I would go further.  Freeze the wiki page, add a link, and
>submit this as the Incubator report for this month to the board.


+1. This is a much saner summary of the IPMC's activities to report
to the board than simply passing on the podling reports unprocessed.


>
>I don't mean this to sound like a "yes, but", but you have identified
>12 podlings that aren't new and aren't ready to graduate.  Are there
>active plans to address the top issue identified?    If there are
>plans, and there is evidence of recent progress towards resolving the
>issue, fine.  Otherwise, please identify what actions the Incubator
>PMC should be taking.  That action could be as simple as asking the
>podling to report again next month.


Well that would require more careful scrutiny of the individual reports.
SIS, one of the wayward podlings I am mentoring, is trying to kick things
into gear again, but might be worthwhile subjecting to another report next
month.


>
>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2012
>>
>> BR,
>>
>> Jukka Zitting
>
>P.S.  This may very well piss off four people, but have you thought
>about being Chair for the Incubator PMC?


LOL.  If Jukka is going to perform on this level consistently, I'd certainly
support this.  As I have said before I don't believe the *right* solution
is to dismantle the IPMC, at least not when the number one problem remains
active mentor participation.  I think Jukka's leadership here in the actual
oversight work we need to be doing monthly is the best representation of
what I'd like to see from the IPMC Chair going forward.

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Re: February report review

[Sam Ruby]

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Joe Schaefer  wrote:
>> From: Sam Ruby 
>>
>>I don't mean this to sound like a "yes, but", but you have identified
>>12 podlings that aren't new and aren't ready to graduate.  Are there
>>active plans to address the top issue identified?    If there are
>>plans, and there is evidence of recent progress towards resolving the
>>issue, fine.  Otherwise, please identify what actions the Incubator
>>PMC should be taking.  That action could be as simple as asking the
>>podling to report again next month.
>
> Well that would require more careful scrutiny of the individual reports.
> SIS, one of the wayward podlings I am mentoring, is trying to kick things
> into gear again, but might be worthwhile subjecting to another report next
> month.

The part of the sentence above after the final comma anticipated my
next comment.

It should not require careful scrutiny of the reports.  To the
contrary, this information should be readily apparent in each
podling's report.  If not, and the podling is not just getting
started, ask for a report again which contains this information.

As long as this information is present, actually changes from quarter
to quarter, and is signed off by mentor(s), and there is no reason to
otherwise suspect that there is any unreported problem, the report
should be approved.

>>P.S.  This may very well piss off four people, but have you thought
>>about being Chair for the Incubator PMC?
>
> LOL.  If Jukka is going to perform on this level consistently

No /if/ about it.  Jukka *has* been performing on this level
consistently month to month.

- Sam Ruby

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Re: February report review

[Joe Schaefer]

- Original Message -

> From: Sam Ruby 
> To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 2:08 PM
> Subject: Re: February report review
> 
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Joe Schaefer  
> wrote:
>>>  From: Sam Ruby 
>>> 
>>> I don't mean this to sound like a "yes, but", but you have 
> identified
>>> 12 podlings that aren't new and aren't ready to graduate.  Are 
> there
>>> active plans to address the top issue identified?    If there are
>>> plans, and there is evidence of recent progress towards resolving the
>>> issue, fine.  Otherwise, please identify what actions the Incubator
>>> PMC should be taking.  That action could be as simple as asking the
>>> podling to report again next month.
>> 
>>  Well that would require more careful scrutiny of the individual reports.
>>  SIS, one of the wayward podlings I am mentoring, is trying to kick things
>>  into gear again, but might be worthwhile subjecting to another report next
>>  month.
> 
> The part of the sentence above after the final comma anticipated my
> next comment.
> 
> It should not require careful scrutiny of the reports.  To the
> contrary, this information should be readily apparent in each
> podling's report.  If not, and the podling is not just getting
> started, ask for a report again which contains this information.

Well the info about SIS is there, it's just that there hasn't been
a sufficent work history behind SIS to leave it at that for another
3 months IMO.  If the new effort is going to be successful it needs to
be self-sustaining, on a weekly basis at a minimum.

> 
> As long as this information is present, actually changes from quarter
> to quarter, and is signed off by mentor(s), and there is no reason to
> otherwise suspect that there is any unreported problem, the report
> should be approved.
> 
>>> P.S.  This may very well piss off four people, but have you thought
>>> about being Chair for the Incubator PMC?
>> 
>>  LOL.  If Jukka is going to perform on this level consistently
> 
> No /if/ about it.  Jukka *has* been performing on this level
> consistently month to month.

Which makes his protests about not having sufficient time for the
Chair role ring hollow to me.  He can do it, hell he IS doing it now ;-)

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Re: February report review

[ralph.goers @dslextreme.com]

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Jukka Zitting 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The podling reports this month [1] seem pretty good in general.
> >
> > I spent some time unifying report formatting and fixing some minor
> > issues (like Stanbol needing an intro paragraph). I also pinged
> > NPanday and Zeta Components that have still not reported (both also
> > missed their previous report), asking them to report again next month
> > unless they already have something ready. HISE didn't report as the
> > project is just about to retire.
>
> Actually (as a previous mentor) I can say Zeta is pretty inactive...
> people don't want to let it die, but its more a wish - project
> activity says different, unfortunately. This has been like this for a
> while now
>
>
This sounds like there is a mentor problem with this project. IMO the
mentors should be recommending the project move out of the incubator or
retire when it gets to this point and not let the discussion die or go on
for months.

Ralph

Re: February report review

[Jukka Zitting]

Hi,

On Wednesday, February 8, 2012, Joe Schaefer  wrote:
>> From: Sam Ruby 
>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Joe Schaefer 
>> wrote:
  From: Sam Ruby 
 P.S.  This may very well piss off four people, but have you thought
 about being Chair for the Incubator PMC?
>>>
>>>  LOL.  If Jukka is going to perform on this level consistently
>>
>> No /if/ about it.  Jukka *has* been performing on this level
>> consistently month to month.
>
> Which makes his protests about not having sufficient time for the
> Chair role ring hollow to me.  He can do it, hell he IS doing it now ;-)

:-) The trouble is, I'm not too comfortable committing myself to a similar
level of activity for an extended period of time. I might reconsider with
the understanding that in say six months, if I don't find enough time for
the task, we'll look again for a replacement. Meanwhile I'm happy to
support Noel who has been much more consistently (if perhaps less actively)
present for far longer than I could ever hope to be.

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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Re: Mad signing and checksumming (Was: [VOTE] Release DeltaSpike 0.1-incubating)

[sebb]

On 8 February 2012 10:41, Jukka Zitting  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:06 AM, sebb  wrote:
>> On 8 February 2012 01:44, Niall Pemberton  wrote:
>>> A small but annoying nit: you've gone mad signing and creating
>>
>> AFAIK, this is a known bug with Nexus and/or Maven.
>
> I know the problem with .asc.md5 and .asc.sha1 [1], but not the one
> with .asc.asc and .asc.asc.*. Is this a new generic issue, or just
> something specific to the DeltaSpike build?
>
> [1] http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MDEPLOY-73
>

See also similar Nexus bug with bundles:

https://issues.sonatype.org/browse/NEXUS-4644

> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
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Re: February report review

[Joe Schaefer]

- Original Message -

> From: Jukka Zitting 
> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 2:35 PM
> Subject: Re: February report review
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Wednesday, February 8, 2012, Joe Schaefer  
> wrote:
>>>  From: Sam Ruby 
>>>  On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Joe Schaefer 
> 
>>>  wrote:
>   From: Sam Ruby 
>  P.S.  This may very well piss off four people, but have you 
> thought
>  about being Chair for the Incubator PMC?
 
   LOL.  If Jukka is going to perform on this level consistently
>>> 
>>>  No /if/ about it.  Jukka *has* been performing on this level
>>>  consistently month to month.
>> 
>>  Which makes his protests about not having sufficient time for the
>>  Chair role ring hollow to me.  He can do it, hell he IS doing it now ;-)
> 
> :-) The trouble is, I'm not too comfortable committing myself to a similar
> level of activity for an extended period of time. I might reconsider with
> the understanding that in say six months, if I don't find enough time for
> the task, we'll look again for a replacement.

Well of course d00d!  The fact that we haven't elected a Chair here in nearly
a decade doesn't preclude us from having multiple elections this year based
on how things work out.  I mean Chris is thinking his committment will only
last a few months max, so really why not offer to stand?

> Meanwhile I'm happy to
> support Noel who has been much more consistently (if perhaps less actively)
> present for far longer than I could ever hope to be.

Well for me I'd like to elect someone at this point who serves as a good role
model for others, and for my money Noel's level of participation won't ever
be there.  Please consider Christian's nomination seriously, you'd have my
vote if you do.

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Re: February report review

[Ross Gardler]

Jukka,

I'd love to see you step up, even if only for a short period alongside
Noel, or as chair.

As I've repeated many times I'm keen to work with the IPMC to find the
right setup between here and ComDev. That will take a little time. I agree
that the approach you are taking here is a good one.

How about we ask Noel to stay on as chair with you as his delegate
(referring to Chris' proposed board resolution) for 6 months. We use this
time to reboot the IPMC as appropriate and then hold an election for chair.

Alternatively, please stand with a limited time in mind. Chris is doing
this as Joe points out.

Ross

Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Feb 8, 2012 7:35 PM, "Jukka Zitting"  wrote:

Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair

[Jukka Zitting]

Hi,

After consideration and some convincing (thanks!), I've decided to
throw also my hat into the ring as a candidate to be the next chairman
of the IPMC.

I believe in that role I could be more effective in focusing more of
our collective attention at where I think it would do most good - at
the actual podlings we're here to help.

That said, the current incubation process clearly has problems and I
very much support efforts to improve the way we work (even if the
result is to replace the Incubator with something better). However,
I'd like to leave the leadership on these efforts to others and, as
mentioned elsewhere, rather try to act as a balancing force that helps
achieve consensus where possible.

Should I be elected, I'd resign as the chairman of the Jackrabbit PMC.
In fact I think it's in any case high time for Jackrabbit to be
rotating that role.

Finally, if elected (and assuming the IPMC still exists), I'd serve
for at most two years before calling for a re-election, or possibly
much less if I don't find enough free cycles to perform the duty as
well as it should.

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair

[Christian Grobmeier]

I already mentioned that I would have nominated you, and so I am
delighted to read your message. It will be very difficult to choose
between all these strong candidates.

Cheers

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Jukka Zitting  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After consideration and some convincing (thanks!), I've decided to
> throw also my hat into the ring as a candidate to be the next chairman
> of the IPMC.
>
> I believe in that role I could be more effective in focusing more of
> our collective attention at where I think it would do most good - at
> the actual podlings we're here to help.
>
> That said, the current incubation process clearly has problems and I
> very much support efforts to improve the way we work (even if the
> result is to replace the Incubator with something better). However,
> I'd like to leave the leadership on these efforts to others and, as
> mentioned elsewhere, rather try to act as a balancing force that helps
> achieve consensus where possible.
>
> Should I be elected, I'd resign as the chairman of the Jackrabbit PMC.
> In fact I think it's in any case high time for Jackrabbit to be
> rotating that role.
>
> Finally, if elected (and assuming the IPMC still exists), I'd serve
> for at most two years before calling for a re-election, or possibly
> much less if I don't find enough free cycles to perform the duty as
> well as it should.
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
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Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair

[Benson Margulies]

I am happy to step out of the way for Jukka. He was clever enough to
stay out of the email s*** storm, and that alone, in my mind, renders
him most qualified.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier  wrote:
> I already mentioned that I would have nominated you, and so I am
> delighted to read your message. It will be very difficult to choose
> between all these strong candidates.
>
> Cheers
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Jukka Zitting  
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> After consideration and some convincing (thanks!), I've decided to
>> throw also my hat into the ring as a candidate to be the next chairman
>> of the IPMC.
>>
>> I believe in that role I could be more effective in focusing more of
>> our collective attention at where I think it would do most good - at
>> the actual podlings we're here to help.
>>
>> That said, the current incubation process clearly has problems and I
>> very much support efforts to improve the way we work (even if the
>> result is to replace the Incubator with something better). However,
>> I'd like to leave the leadership on these efforts to others and, as
>> mentioned elsewhere, rather try to act as a balancing force that helps
>> achieve consensus where possible.
>>
>> Should I be elected, I'd resign as the chairman of the Jackrabbit PMC.
>> In fact I think it's in any case high time for Jackrabbit to be
>> rotating that role.
>>
>> Finally, if elected (and assuming the IPMC still exists), I'd serve
>> for at most two years before calling for a re-election, or possibly
>> much less if I don't find enough free cycles to perform the duty as
>> well as it should.
>>
>> BR,
>>
>> Jukka Zitting
>>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache BVal as a TLP

[Niall Pemberton]

+1

Niall

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din  wrote:
> Hi...
>
>   It has been discussed, since a while, about the graduation of Apache
> BVal, whether to graduate to a TLP or Subproject and whether it is time or
> not, [1], [2] and [3].
> In the past few weeks there has been a [VOTE], [4], which formally
> discussed the graduation to a TLP project. Result announcement can be found
> here, [5]. It also has been decided to name the project Apache BVal [6].
> The resolution charter content has been discussed and reviewed here [7].
>
> *NOTE*: As per Niall's request, his name has been removed from the proposed
> PMC [8].
>
> The Apache Bean Validation community sees it is time to request an IPMC
> [VOTE] on recommending this resolution [9] to the ASF board.
>
> Accordingly, would you please cast your vote:
>
> [ ] +1 to recommend Bean Validation's graduation
> [ ]  0 don't care
> [ ] -1 no, don't recommend yet, (because...)
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
>
> [1] - http://s.apache.org/oTC
> [2] - http://s.apache.org/I8C
> [3] - http://s.apache.org/EQE
> [4] - http://s.apache.org/rU
> [5] - http://s.apache.org/7Sw
> [6] - http://s.apache.org/tY
> 
> [7] - *http://s.apache.org/49R*
> [8] - http://s.apache.org/JYS
> [9] - See below:
>
> ## Resolution to create a TLP from graduating Incubator podling
>
>    X. Establish the Apache BVal Project
>
>  WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software related to the Bean Validation
> Specification and its implementation as Apache BVal
> for distribution at no charge to the public.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache BVal Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to creating an implementation compliant with the
> Bean Validation Specification and a library of pre-developed
> validators and extensions; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache BVal" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache BVal Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache BVal Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache BVal Project:
>
>   - Albert Lee 
>   - Carlos Vara Callau 
>   - David Jencks 
>   - Donald Woods 
>   - Gerhard Petracek 
>   - Jeremy Bauer 
>   - Kevan Lee Miller 
>   - Luciano Resende 
>   - Matthias Wessendorf 
>   - Matthew Jason Benson 
>   - Mohammad Nour El-Din 
>   - Roman Stumm 
>   - Simone Tripodi 
>   - Mark Struberg 
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache BVal, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache BVal PMC be and hereby is
> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache BVal Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache BVal Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Bean Validation podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Bean Validation podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
> --
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> 
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein

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Re: February report review

[Niall Pemberton]

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Joe Schaefer  wrote:
> - Original Message -
>
>> From: Jukka Zitting 
>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" 
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 2:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: February report review
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 8, 2012, Joe Schaefer 
>> wrote:
  From: Sam Ruby 
  On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Joe Schaefer
>> 
  wrote:
>>   From: Sam Ruby 
>>  P.S.  This may very well piss off four people, but have you
>> thought
>>  about being Chair for the Incubator PMC?
>
>   LOL.  If Jukka is going to perform on this level consistently

  No /if/ about it.  Jukka *has* been performing on this level
  consistently month to month.
>>>
>>>  Which makes his protests about not having sufficient time for the
>>>  Chair role ring hollow to me.  He can do it, hell he IS doing it now ;-)
>>
>> :-) The trouble is, I'm not too comfortable committing myself to a similar
>> level of activity for an extended period of time. I might reconsider with
>> the understanding that in say six months, if I don't find enough time for
>> the task, we'll look again for a replacement.
>
> Well of course d00d!  The fact that we haven't elected a Chair here in nearly
> a decade doesn't preclude us from having multiple elections this year based
> on how things work out.  I mean Chris is thinking his committment will only
> last a few months max, so really why not offer to stand?
>
>> Meanwhile I'm happy to
>> support Noel who has been much more consistently (if perhaps less actively)
>> present for far longer than I could ever hope to be.
>
> Well for me I'd like to elect someone at this point who serves as a good role
> model for others, and for my money Noel's level of participation won't ever
> be there.  Please consider Christian's nomination seriously, you'd have my
> vote if you do.

Me too.

Niall

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