Re: [REPORTS DUE] Status reports of Incubating Projects

2004-01-20 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

The Incubator project board report is due in a bit more than a week, as 
the board meeting should take place on Wed, 21 Jan 2004, 10am Pacific [1].

Thus all Mentors should ensure that every Incubating Project sends in 
their project report during this week, so that we have time to review it 
and see if anything has to be presented to the board.
Just a final reminder before I send in the Incubator board report next 
morning CET.

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Import jUDDI archives from SourceForge.net lists to Apache?

2004-01-20 Thread Viens, Steve
Title: Import jUDDI archives from SourceForge.net lists to Apache?





jUDDI's been around quite a while now and we've got a couple years of list activity for both the juddi-user and juddi-dev lists archived at SourceForge.net.  I can obtain these in mbox file format ... would it be possible to import this into the current archives at Apache?

We're asking because we've received a few requests for this from the jUDDI user base. MARC did it for us but it would be great if all that history was available via the Apache archives as well.

Steve



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Re: [REPORTS DUE] Status reports of Incubating Projects

2004-01-20 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

Just a final reminder before I send in the Incubator board report next 
morning CET.


Below you find the JaxMe status file. In a private discussion the PPMC
members have expressed their opinion, that the tasks required for
incubation are performed and we would like to request graduation to
ws.apache.org.
Questions:

  - Any reasons that prevent graduation?
  - If not: What is required to start the vote on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is an informal mail sufficient or do we need a vote from the PPMC
first that triggers the actual vote?
Jochen





!!!JaxMe Project Incubation status

This page tracks the project status, incubator-wise. Items marked
__DONE__ have been completed.
!!!Project Website

The website for JaxMe is at http://ws.apache.org/jaxme/

!!!Identify the project to be incubated

*Make sure that the requested project name does not already exist
 and check www.nameprotect.com to be sure that the name is not
 already trademarked for an existing software product.
On 20-Dec-2003 we have checked for the name JaxMe on www.nameprotect.com
using the free online research form. The domain name search found the
following names, none of which seems to be in conflict:
jaxmed.com
jaxmetro.(com|net)
jaxmetals.com
jaxmeier.com
jaxmerc.com
jaxmedicalinjury.com
jaxmediator.com
jaxmedal.com
jaxmetrolive.com
jaxmedical.com
jaxmedia.com
jaxmediaweb.com
jaxmenusonline.com
jaxmetroforddealers.com
jaxmenus.com
jaxmedicalpractice.com
jaxmetal.com
jaxmediaonline.com
jaxmetroford.com
ajaxmetal.com
viajaxmenos.com
ajaxmedia.com
ajaxmetalstamping.com
krackerjaxmedia.com
Search for US federal or canadian trademarks found no results.

DONE

*If request from an existing Apache project to adopt an external
 package, then ask the Apache project for the cvs module and mail
 address names.
See http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10619838661&r=1&w=2

__DONE__

!!!Interim responsibility

*Who has been identified as the shepherd for the incubation?

Davanum Srinivas, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

__DONE__

*Are they tracking progress?

Progress is tracked in

  incubator/site/projects/jaxme.cwiki

__DONE__

!!!Copyright

*Have the papers that transfer rights to the ASF been received?
 It is only necessary to transfer rights for the package, the
 core code, and any new code produced by the project.
According to 
[jaxme/JaxMe2/docs/Design.html|http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/jaxme/JaxMe2/docs/Design.html?rev=1.6#pastvotes]
the ASF is the legal owner of all sources that have been checked in
initially. New code and updates are produces by committers only who
have signed a CLA.

__DONE__

*Have the files been updated to reflect the new ASF copyright?

All Java source files have an ASF copyright notice included.

__DONE__

Verify distribution rights:

*For all code included with the distribution that is not under the
 Apache license, do we have the right to combine with Apache-licensed
 code and redistribute?
The distribution includes the JaxMe jar files and the following files:

ant.jar (Ant)
junit.jar   (Jakarta JUnit)
log4j.jar   (Jakarta Log4J)
xercesImpl.jar  (XML Xerces)
xml-apis.jar
xmldb-api-*.jar (XML Xindice)
Proper license files are also included. The build process (test
case) depends on hsqldb.jar, which is not included in the distribution,
for license issues.
__DONE__

*Is all source code distributed by the project covered by one or more
 of the following approved licenses:  Apache, BSD, Artistic, MIT/X,
 MIT/W3C, MPL 1.1, or something with essentially the same terms?
__DONE__

!!!Establish a list of active committers

*Are all active committers in the STATUS file?

Active committers are:
  Davanum Srinivas, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Jochen Wiedmann, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Ias, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inactive committers are:
  Robert Burell Donkin, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
__DONE__

-*Do they have accounts on cvs.apache.org?

Yes

__DONE__

*Have they submitted a contributors agreement?

Yes

__DONE__

!!!Infrastructure

*CVS modules created and committers added to avail file?

The CVS module is ws-jaxme and in active use.

__DONE__

*Mailing lists set up and archived?

The mailing list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] It receives notifications
from CVS and Bugzilla. Mailing list is archived in Eyebrowse and on
marc.theaimsgroup.com.
__DONE__

*Problem tracking system (Bugzilla)?

Bugzilla is up and running, a project ws-jaxme and associated
components have been created.
__DONE__

*Has the project migrated to our infrastructure?

See above.

__DONE__

!!!Collaborative Development

*Have all of the active long-term volunteers been identified
 and acknowledged as committers on the project?
All active committers and contributors of JaxMe 2 (sf.net) are now
active committers on ws-jaxme. There are active committers left
which a

[status report] Directory Project

2004-01-20 Thread Alex Karasulu
Nicola,

Here's our status report for the Directory Project according to 
the format you have specified:

1). Is the STATUS file up to date? No we need to work on this as well
as our site documentation.
Here's the link to the status file:

http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/incubator/site/projects/directory.cwiki

2). Any legal, cross-project or personal issues that still need to be
addressed? None.

3). What has been done for incubation since the last report?
* Code transferred from LDAPd project CVS repositiory at source forge to
  the Apache subversion repository.
* Packages changed and license information updated for Apache 1.1
  License
* IANA number for the LDAPd Group transfered to Apache.  The ASF wide
  IANA number now and forever is 18060 and can be looked up in the IANA
  enterprise number listing here:
 
  http://www.iana.org/assignments/enterprise-numbers
* Naming commons moved from the jakarta CVS repository to directory
  subversion repository.
* Added Brett Porter and Vince Tence to the team.
* Taking on some security written by Vince from his AAA endeavors.

4). Plans and expectations for the next period?
* Add Vince Tence to the group along with security code
* Complete at a bare minimum a simple site about us and our goals
* Bring status file upto date
* Complete documentation on existing Eve code base to make it
  easier to attract and inform new developers coming on board.
* Complete clean up and reorg of SVN repo for Eve code base.

5). Any recommendations for how incubation could run more smoothly for you?
Feed back on how the project is going from the incubator would be
greatly appreciated.  We don't have a good health meter for the project.

Thanks,
Alex



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Re: [REPORTS DUE] Status reports of Incubating Projects

2004-01-20 Thread Leo Simons
Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
Questions:

  - Any reasons that prevent graduation?
from looking at your status file, no :D

  - If not: What is required to start the vote on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is an informal mail sufficient or do we need a vote from the PPMC
first that triggers the actual vote?
what does the PPMC think? If the PPMC thinks that it needs to vote it 
should. IMHO, the PPMC needs to agree but I'm not sure a vote for that 
is needed: it seems you're already in agreement.

Other than that...

we have a rule that the Incubator PMC must vote on the release, and the 
PMC further agrees that vote should be on [EMAIL PROTECTED] No other 
rules exist. Do you think we need one? What's usually the case at apache 
is that anyone who's actively involved with something can start a vote.

Take some time to gauge general opinion, and if things seem in order, 
get the mentor to summarize things, present an argument, run and tally 
the vote, etc.

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- Leo Simons

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[RT] How to graduate

2004-01-20 Thread Leo Simons
Preface
---
Since there were some questions lately, here's some of my thoughts about 
what projects in incubation should be doing to graduate. We haven't 
graduated that many projects before, so what exactly it entails is not 
set in stone. Nor do I think it will be anytime soon, as setting things 
in stone is hard work!

When are you ready?
---
Before you graduate, you need to be confident...
* ...that the people tracking your progress actively get an idea of what 
you're up to (and have gotten a chance to point you at some i's to dot 
and t's to cross). You need to get the feeling there's a consensus 
around the incubator that you're ready.

* ...in your own abilities to function well within apache without the 
help of the incubator. If you don't know yet what all that entails, 
you're not ready.

* ...that your status file reflects reality, that everyone involved 
agrees on its contents, and that there are no action items left.

* ...that you've followed all parts of the incubation procedure (and 
where they're vague, the intentions behind them) and that you know what 
to do upon graduation, procedure-wise.

* ...that everyone actively involved with the project (committers, 
(P)PMC members, mentors, ...) agrees that the project is ready for 
graduation.

If you're confident in all of this, you're likely ready to graduate. If 
you're not, it's probably not very likely the PMC will be :D

The Actual Graduation Procedure
---
The important formal part is that the Incubator PMC votes (which happens 
according to the 'standard' apache policy of simple majority on 
non-technical votes, a roughly 72 hour voting period unless someone 
requests otherwise, etc; the vote is done on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list 
and non-PMC members are welcome to express their opinion) on the project 
graduation.

In order to make the vote go smoothly, talk about it before you actually 
hold one, include a summary of all important info in the call to vote, 
including links to status files, significant reports or bits of info, 
etc etc. Basically, the standard "common sense" applies. And if you're a 
graduation candidate, you should know what that common sense is, actually :D

Once the vote passes, tally the result, move the status file to the 
succes subdirectory, update links, update website, post a vote summary, 
announce the happy news to the appropriate lists, notify the appropriate 
pmc, take care of any infrastructural things that need to happen 
(subdomain config for a TLP, for example), and do other things that need 
doing (if you don't know what those are, see above).

Besides those hopefully rather obvious things, a new TLP requires a 
board resolution, which requires a basic project charter, a list of PMC 
members, a proposal for a PMC chair, and probably some nice and formal 
words just for fun. You can find examples in the board meeting minutes 
(http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/calendar.html). You will 
probably want a PPMC vote on the draft resolution before you submit it 
to the board.

It's your own responsibility

The PMC is not likely to decide on its own that you should graduate, nor 
is it likely to take the neccessary steps to make it happen. You should 
take those steps and ask the PMC to decide when you think they will 
decide in favour. The PMC is not for "doing" things, just for oversight 
and approval. Regardless of the fact, of course, that there are lots of 
people on the PMC who do things (like write this e-mail :D), it's not 
what the PMC does.

ASF projects do self-management...and once you are managing yourself, 
the Incubator PMC will probably be very happy to transfer responsibility.

Disclaimer
--
This is just my understanding of basic procedures and my own opinion. 
It's not representative of an "official" PMC or board opinion or decision.

Also, don't wait for official positions, opinions, or decisions. We're 
not laywers, so we don't do a lot of things "officially" if we don't 
really need to. Just take a look at what people have said, what 
consensus seems to be, etc. Moreover, take a look at what *you* think.

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cheers,
- Leo Simons

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Status Report for Geronimo

2004-01-20 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Apologies for the last minute update.

Status report for the Incubator Geronimo Project

 * is the STATUS file up to date? (also post link)
Yes
/home/cvs/incubator/site/projects/geronimo.cwiki
 * any legal, cross-project or personal issues
   that still need to be addressed?
A serious legal issue was raised by JBoss Group LLC in a letter dated 
10/31/2003. This issue has been thoroughly investigated and the 
conclusion of the community is that the issues raised in the letter are 
unfounded.

A question has arisen whether it is permissible to include XML Schema 
documents for J2EE deployment descriptors in CVS. We have raised the 
issue with Sun and are awaiting a response.

 * what has been done for incubation since the last report?
The establishment of a PPMC has aided the organization of the project. 
Added Gianny D'Amour as committer.

The community voted to keep the name "Geronimo"

The ASF has become a J2EE licensee, allowing us to start the 
certification process.

 * plans and expectations for the next period?
To start testing with the J2EE TCK.
To work with the Incubator PMC to provide an interim release allowing 
people to use Geronimo without building from source making it available 
to a larger community.

To address any remaining issues before applying to leave the Incubator.

 * any recommendations for how incubation could run
   more smoothly for you?
The establishment of the PPMC has been a great help.


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