[Freesurfer] Linear registration of subject meshes with FLIRT

2008-04-25 Thread Damian Jenkins
In the FreeSurfer reliability paper, you recommend linearly registering the 
subject's meshes to each other and point to the Jenkinson paper.  How actually 
is this done with FLIRT? 

Dr Damian Jenkins
Department of Clinical Neurology
Oxford University

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[Freesurfer] Mean FA values using wmparc

2008-04-25 Thread Damian Jenkins
Once FA results are co-registered is there an easy way to use the wmparc.mgz to 
collect the mean FA values by region, or do we need to treat it like FMRI and 
make masks of each parcel and collect each mean separately?

Dr Damian Jenkins
Department of Clinical Neurology
Oxford University

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[Freesurfer] design matrix : inter-run effetcs

2008-04-25 Thread Andersson Frederic

Hi,

Computing individual fMRI analysis (several runs) and looking at the  
design matrix
(X.mat), I saw that only one regressor represents each condition. I  
was expecting that
the number of regressors concerning a condition would be the number of  
runs (as SPM).
There are "inter-run effect" regressors but is this better if I affect  
a different value

for each of run and each condition (see examples below).
Other question concerning design matrix : only 3 movement parameters  
included in the

design matrix. Why 3 rather than the 6 computed during movement correction?
Concerning inter-run effects and movement parameters, is there any  
advantage of reducing

the number of regressors but having a less ideal model?





1 condition = 1regressor


0 = rest
1=conditionA
2=conditionB

Pardagim files :
RUN#1RUN#2RUN#3
000000
303030
606060
909090
120120120
151151151
181181181
211211211
241241241
271271271
300300300
330330330
360360360
390390390
422422422
452452452
482482482
512512512
542542542
570570570





1 condition = 1regressor / run


0=rest
1=conditionA run#1
2=conditionB run#1
3=conditionA run#2
4=conditionB run#2
5=conditionA run#3
6=conditionB run#3

Pardagim files :
RUN#1RUN#2RUN#3
000000
303030
606060
909090
120120120
151153155
181183185
211213215
241243245
271273275
300300300
330330330
360360360
390390390
422424426
452454456
482484486
512514516
542544546
570570570



Frédéric ANDERSSON.

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[Freesurfer] can not see the pial surface using tksurfer

2008-04-25 Thread yczhang
Hi,
when I launched the command tksurfer to see the constructed pial surface,
only a very small part of the surface can been seen in the window.
I do not know how to fix the problem.
Thanks!




yczhang
2008-04-25
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Re: [Freesurfer] can not see the pial surface using tksurfer

2008-04-25 Thread Nick Schmansky
If you have an Nvidia graphics card, you will need to update the driver.

Try running nvidia-installer --update, as root (preferably have your
sysadmin do this).

Nick

On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 21:25 +0800, yczhang wrote:
> Hi,
> when I launched the command tksurfer to see the constructed pial
> surface,
> only a very small part of the surface can been seen in the window.
> I do not know how to fix the problem.
> Thanks!
>  
> 
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Re: [Freesurfer] VNC/GLX... what is really vncserver.glx

2008-04-25 Thread Paul Raines

Another option to VNC is freenx.

http://wiki.debian.org/freenx

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:


Thank you Tren,

Actually Nick Schmansky at the time of original request pointed me out
(I believe in an offlist conversation) to xf4vnc, I have built it
then from CVS snapshot (there were/are no source tarballs), but it was
segfaulting. Debian maintainer of VNC packages unfortunately isn't
really eager to jump into burden of building yet another VNC package for
Debian, so I just abandoned idea of using xf4vnc at that moment. May be
now is a good timing to give it a shout again ;)

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Tsung-Ren Huang wrote:


Hi Yaroslav,



You can comment out those lines regarding GLoverride.
The real magic, as pointed out by Nick, is acutally the xf4vnc
that can be downloaded from http://sourceforge.net/projects/xf4vnc .



Tren

d

On Mon, 2007-01-15 at 23:27 -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
Thank you very much for providing the script.  Now the question is what
magic do you keep under /usr/lib64/GLoverride:/usr/lib/GLoverride
because the rest of the script seems to be close to the standard
vnc server script shipped originally (Debian maintainer introduced some
changes as well but most only for parameter/configuration
specifications).



On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Nick Schmansky wrote:
Yaroslav,
If you goto that RemoteAccess wiki page, and click on 'vncserver.glx',
it will now allow you to download that script.  You will have to modify
it a bit: look for instances of /usr/pubsw/packages, which point to our
installation of VNC.
Nick






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Re: [Freesurfer] Unknown error

2008-04-25 Thread Jerry Yeou-Wei Chen
Okay, thanks for your help again Nick!
Regarding the scan data: I am actually working with data collected by a
previous member of our lab, and there were indeed some problems... (related
to the SCIC algorithm on our GE scanner). So, our technician created a
program to "uncorrect" the intensity scaling.  The images he saved appear
dark when we load them freesurfer, but we expected autorecon's intensity
normalization would handle this. In fact, autorecon did successfully process
34 out of 35 scans. (the cortical surface appears quite decent for them, and
the thickness values on our average subject appears to be within normal
range...)
I wonder if I should be concerned about our results due to this intensity
issue...

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Nick Schmansky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Jerry,
>
> At this point, I think Bruce will need to jump-in to answer (he is out-
> of-town today).  I think he will ask about your scan parameters, ie, how
> is your scanner setup?  It sounds as if something is not quite right in
> the data coming-off the scanner.
>
> Nick
>
>
> On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 14:26 -0400, Jerry Yeou-Wei Chen wrote:
> > Thanks for the reply, Nick. I think you correctly identified the
> > problem.
> > nu.mgz is oriented correctly, but looks very dark... However, it looks
> > decent if I adjust the brightness/contrast
> > I have other scans that were processed without error, and the
> > orig.mgz, and nu.mgz also appear quite dark (and the mri peaks are
> > very low, too: 29, 46, 52, ...) Also, for those successfully
> > processed, the brainmask.mgz looks decent as well.
> > Perhaps this scan that exited with error was too dark to be corrected
> > by the intensity normalization algorithm?
> >
> > - Jerry
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Nick Schmansky
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Jerry,
> >
> > I'm not sure why it exited without giving a better message,
> > but this is
> > a clue why it exited:
> >
> >
> > before smoothing, mri peak at 0
> > after smoothing, mri peak at 0, scaling input intensities by
> > inf
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > the mri peak is at zero, which is wrong (it should be around
> > 116/117 or
> > so).
> >
> > if you view nu.mgz (tkmedit -f nu.mgz), does it look ok?  is
> > it oriented
> > correctly?
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 12:28 -0400, Jerry Yeou-Wei Chen wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I am having trouble deciphering why I got the error attached
> > below.
> > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > - Jerry
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tue Apr 22 10:15:22 EDT 2008
> > > talairach_avi done
> > >
> > >  cp transforms/talairach.auto.xfm transforms/talairach.xfm
> > >
> > > #
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Talairach Failure Detection Tue Apr 22 10:15:23 
> > EDT 2008
> > > /scratch/freesurfer/subjects/17/s017/mri
> > >
> > >  talairach_afd -T 0.005 -xfm transforms/talairach.xfm
> > >
> > > talairach_afd: Talairach Transform: transforms/talairach.xfm
> > OK
> > > (p=0.7072, pval=0.4932 >= threshold=0.0050)
> > >
> > >  awk -
> > >
> > f /scratch/freesurfer/bin/extract_talairach_avi_QA.awk
> /scratch/freesurfer/subjects/17/s017/mri/transforms/talairach_avi.log
> > >
> > > TalAviQA: 0.96840
> > > z-score: -2
> > > #
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intensity Normalization Tue Apr 22 10:15:23 EDT 
> > 2008
> > > /scratch/freesurfer/subjects/17/s017/mri
> > >
> > >  mri_normalize -g 1 nu.mgz T1.mgz
> > >
> > > using max gradient = 1.000
> > > reading from nu.mgz...
> > > normalizing image...
> > > talairach transform
> > >  0.976   0.083   0.030  -136.866;
> > > -0.072   1.053   0.164  -153.262;
> > > -0.020  -0.109   1.085  -122.101;
> > >  0.000   0.000   0.000   1.000;
> > > INFO: Modifying talairach volume c_(r,a,s) based on
> > average_305
> > > building Voronoi diagram...
> > > performing soap bubble smoothing...
> > > 3d normalization pass 1 of 2
> > > building Voronoi diagram...
> > > performing soap bubble smoothing...
> > > 3d normalization pass 2 of 2
> > > building Voronoi diagram...
> > > performing soap bubble smoothing...
> > > writing output to T1.mgz
> > > 3D bias adjustment took 19 minutes and 44 seconds.
> > > white matter peak found at 111
> > > gm peak at 88 (88), valley at 80 (80)
> > > csf peak at 57, setting 

[Freesurfer] total brain volume correction

2008-04-25 Thread Ryan Muetzel

Hello,

I was curious if anyone had specific recommendations for correcting ROIs 
for total brain volume/ICV. From what I can tell, some groups correct each 
ROI by computing a ratio of ROI/total_brain_volume. Other groups, however, 
enter total brain volume as a covariate in their statistical models. Both 
methods seem reasonable, but it seems entering total brain size as a 
covariate may be more robust, controlling for potential interactions with 
other IVs (e.g. age, gender). Are there other strategies I am missing?


Any advice is much appreciated!

Thanks!

-Ryan

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Re: [Freesurfer] lh.aparc.a2005s: S_subcentral_ant label

2008-04-25 Thread Doug Greve
I have not looked at it before, but I do see that it exists on some of 
our subjects and not on others. Not sure why, except that it is a small 
structure that maybe gets crowded out.


doug

Juranek, Jenifer wrote:


We recently started playing with the ?h.aparc.a2005s annotation files (fsv401).
We noticed that in /freesurfer/subject/bert, the S_subcentral_ant label is not listed as a variable in the /stats/lh.aparc.a2005s output file. However, this variable name does *sometimes* appear in some of our study subjects. 
1) Is this normal behavior?

2) Is it possible to add a FieldName index (analagous to the aseg.stats file) to 
facilitate detailed accountings of "empty" variables in the ?h.aparc.a2005s 
files?

Many Thanks for any information you can provide,
Jenifer 


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[Freesurfer] differences between last and new version of FS

2008-04-25 Thread Irene Mattisi
Hi all, 
I'm trying the new version of FS for a study on multiple sclerosis that our 
group in Padova (Italy) is doing. 
When I give the command "mris_anatomical_stats -b -a aparc.annot etc..." to 
obtain the list of cortices, I obtain about 30 cortices, while in the last 
version of FS I could obtain about 80 cortices. So, can I obtain 80 cortices 
also with the new version of FS? How can I do it?
Thanks

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Re: [Freesurfer] differences between last and new version of FS

2008-04-25 Thread Nick Schmansky
Irene,

There are two parcellation schemes that freesurfer produces.  The ?
h.aparc.annot file contains 35 labels, while ?h.aparc.a2005.annot
contains 78 labels.  If you specify ...  -a aparc.a2005s.annot   in the
mris_anantomical_stats command, you will get the 78 labels.

The two schemes are described in the papers in the cortical parcellation
section of the wiki:

https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/Articles

?h.aparc.annot  - An automated labeling system for subdividing the human
cerebral cortex on MRI scans into gyral based regions of interest

?h.aparc.a2005s.annot - Automatically Parcellating the Human Cerebral
Cortex

Nick

On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 20:18 +0200, Irene Mattisi wrote:
> Hi all, 
> I'm trying the new version of FS for a study on multiple sclerosis
> that our group in Padova (Italy) is doing. 
> When I give the command "mris_anatomical_stats -b -a aparc.annot
> etc..." to obtain the list of cortices, I obtain about 30 cortices,
> while in the last version of FS I could obtain about 80 cortices. So,
> can I obtain 80 cortices also with the new version of FS? How can I do
> it?
> Thanks
>  
> Irene Mattisi
> Centre of Multiple Sclerosis, Hospital of Padova, Italy
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[Freesurfer] Cannot execute any freesurfer GUI- Error of failed request:

2008-04-25 Thread Jennifer Bramen

FREESURFER_HOME: /Applications/freesurfer

Build stamp: freesurfer-Darwin-leopard-stable-pub-v4.0.3

Kernel info: Darwin 9.0.0 i386
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I recently updated to the newest release of freesurfer because for  
some reason I was unable to run qdec with 4.0.2. Though it appears  
that everything is setup exactly as it was before, I cannot execute  
any of the GUI (tkmedit, tksurfer, or qdec)


I tried using the tutorial dataset to debug this. Below is an example  
command:



tkmedit good_output brainmask.mgz lh.white -aux T1.mgz -aux-surface  
rh.white -segmentation aseg.mgz $FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt


Regardless of what I try to run, I get the following error:


Couldn't create output file .xdebug_tkmeditX Error of failed request:   
BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)

 Major opcode of failed request:  128 (Apple-DRI)
 Minor opcode of failed request:  1 ()
 Serial number of failed request:  17
 Current serial number in output stream:  17


I already looked in the archives. I do have the most up to date  
version of X11. I am running this on my local machine, not via ssh, so  
this is not a display problem. All of my necessary variables are set  
(SUBJECTS_DIR, FREESURFER_HOME) and I have sourced $FREESURFER_HOME/ 
SetUpFreeSurfer.csh.


Thnaks you in advance for your help.

Jennifer Bramen

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Re: [Freesurfer] Cannot execute any freesurfer GUI- Error of failed request:

2008-04-25 Thread Nick Schmansky
Jennifer,

I think you have the PowerPC build, but your machine has an Intel
processor.  Try getting the one named:

freesurfer-Darwin-leopard-i686-stable-pub-v4.0.3-full.dmg

Although in principle (as stated by Apple) PowerPC code can be emulated
on the Intel processor, in practice it looks like it doesnt work in all
instances.

Nick


On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 14:05 -0700, Jennifer Bramen wrote:
> FREESURFER_HOME: /Applications/freesurfer
> 
> Build stamp: freesurfer-Darwin-leopard-stable-pub-v4.0.3
> 
> Kernel info: Darwin 9.0.0 i386
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> 
> I recently updated to the newest release of freesurfer because for  
> some reason I was unable to run qdec with 4.0.2. Though it appears  
> that everything is setup exactly as it was before, I cannot execute  
> any of the GUI (tkmedit, tksurfer, or qdec)
> 
> I tried using the tutorial dataset to debug this. Below is an example  
> command:
> 
> 
> tkmedit good_output brainmask.mgz lh.white -aux T1.mgz -aux-surface  
> rh.white -segmentation aseg.mgz $FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt
> 
> Regardless of what I try to run, I get the following error:
> 
> 
> Couldn't create output file .xdebug_tkmeditX Error of failed request:   
> BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
>   Major opcode of failed request:  128 (Apple-DRI)
>   Minor opcode of failed request:  1 ()
>   Serial number of failed request:  17
>   Current serial number in output stream:  17
> 
> 
> I already looked in the archives. I do have the most up to date  
> version of X11. I am running this on my local machine, not via ssh, so  
> this is not a display problem. All of my necessary variables are set  
> (SUBJECTS_DIR, FREESURFER_HOME) and I have sourced $FREESURFER_HOME/ 
> SetUpFreeSurfer.csh.
> 
> Thnaks you in advance for your help.
> 
> Jennifer Bramen
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[Freesurfer] White Matter Regional Volumes

2008-04-25 Thread Jennifer Bramen

Hi Freesurfer Users,

This may be a newbie question. I am trying to evaluate regional  
volumes. I have been able to tabulate the gray matter volumes, but  
cannot figure out how to tabulate all the white matter volumes. I see  
that in individual folders, there is a file called wmparc.stats. Do  
any of the tools query this file, or will I need to pull the data  
manually? Inside this file, I see some of the regions listed as wm-?h- 
. Next to these are sometimes a lot of zeros and sometimes  
a bunch of values. I am wondering why so many of these do not have  
values associated with them. I am also wondering why only some of the  
regions listed in this file are labeled wm, when the file suggests it  
contains white matter stats...


If there is somewhere on the site that explains white matter  
volumetric analyses, could someone please send me the link?


Thank you

Jennifer Bramen

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