Re: pthread_cancel / sleep change in behaviour

2015-09-04 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 08:37:40AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 13:43:51 +0300
> Konstantin Belousov  wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 06:33:53PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > > On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 11:19:47 +0300
> > > Konstantin Belousov  wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 08:00:47AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > > > > Is this change of behaviour a feature or a bug?
> > > > Provide a minimal example demonstrating the issue.
> > > while preparing the example I found the source of the problem. We
> > > have to block all signals for some reason. The handling for
> > > 
> > > signal (SIGTHR, SIG_IGN);
> > > 
> > > seems to have changed. The moment I remove above's line from the
> > > code, the program works. There is no difference when the programs
> > > runs on machines prior mid November 2014.
> > > 
> > Err, this is a bug, probably both in your program (user code must not
> > twiddle with SIGCANCEL) and in libc. The later, I believe, was fixed
> 
> I just ran the same binary on:
> 
> FreeBSD B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com 11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #5
> r287425: Thu Sep  3 21:44:16 WITA 2015
> er...@b85m-hd3-0.alogt.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/B85M-HD3  amd64
> 
> and it works there.
> 
> So, it is just a matter of time until the fix finds its way back to 10?
Yes, should be several days timeframe.

> 
> Of course, I do not ignore the signal now in the application anymore.
> The application then works as expected on 10.2 STABLE.
Well, the consequence of the bug, which affected you, is that it was
allowed for the applications to ignore SIGCANCEL. With the bug fixed,
the signal(SIGCANCEL, anything) becomes nop.
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Re: pthread_cancel / sleep change in behaviour

2015-09-04 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,.

On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 11:18:57 +0300
Konstantin Belousov  wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 08:37:40AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 13:43:51 +0300
> > 
> > and it works there.
> > 
> > So, it is just a matter of time until the fix finds its way back to
> > 10?
> Yes, should be several days timeframe.

this sounds perfect.
> 
> > 
> > Of course, I do not ignore the signal now in the application
> > anymore. The application then works as expected on 10.2 STABLE.
> Well, the consequence of the bug, which affected you, is that it was
> allowed for the applications to ignore SIGCANCEL. With the bug fixed,
> the signal(SIGCANCEL, anything) becomes nop.

Was it just me being blind or is the documentation on this a bit
limited?

Erich
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Re: pthread_cancel / sleep change in behaviour

2015-09-04 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 04:35:24PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> Hi,.
> 
> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 11:18:57 +0300
> Konstantin Belousov  wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 08:37:40AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > > On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 13:43:51 +0300
> > > 
> > > and it works there.
> > > 
> > > So, it is just a matter of time until the fix finds its way back to
> > > 10?
> > Yes, should be several days timeframe.
> 
> this sounds perfect.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Of course, I do not ignore the signal now in the application
> > > anymore. The application then works as expected on 10.2 STABLE.
> > Well, the consequence of the bug, which affected you, is that it was
> > allowed for the applications to ignore SIGCANCEL. With the bug fixed,
> > the signal(SIGCANCEL, anything) becomes nop.
> 
> Was it just me being blind or is the documentation on this a bit
> limited?

Documentation on what ? SIGCANCEL is non-standard signal, it is not
documented because this is internal facility for the threading library.
Fiddling with anything without understanding the functionality is not
the best idea.
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GPU suggestion: gtx 750ti

2015-09-04 Thread Dot Yet
Hello,

I currently run haswell based desktop and am planning to add a second gpu
to get decent graphics functional. I am thinking about purchasing nvidia
gtx 750ti. can anyone confirm if its supported by drivers and is capable of
hardware acceleration? if not, what current day gpu should i look for? I am
not a gamer, but I do like watching 1080p movies/trailers etc.

Please let me know.

thanks,
.
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Re: GPU suggestion: gtx 750ti

2015-09-04 Thread Eugene Grosbein

04.09.2015 21:34, Dot Yet пишет:

Hello,

I currently run haswell based desktop and am planning to add a second gpu
to get decent graphics functional. I am thinking about purchasing nvidia
gtx 750ti. can anyone confirm if its supported by drivers and is capable of
hardware acceleration? if not, what current day gpu should i look for? I am
not a gamer, but I do like watching 1080p movies/trailers etc.

Please let me know.


I have Intel HD4000 too and wanted something better but quiet and low-power
for my thin mini-BTX motherboard. I've got passive cooled Nvidia GT 730
that draws power from PCI-E slot only, no additional power from motherboard.
It works just fine with binary nvidia-driver with FreeBSD 10.2

Eugene Grosbein

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Re: GPU suggestion: gtx 750ti

2015-09-04 Thread Jan Bramkamp



On 04/09/15 16:34, Dot Yet wrote:

Hello,

I currently run haswell based desktop and am planning to add a second gpu
to get decent graphics functional. I am thinking about purchasing nvidia
gtx 750ti. can anyone confirm if its supported by drivers and is capable of
hardware acceleration? if not, what current day gpu should i look for? I am
not a gamer, but I do like watching 1080p movies/trailers etc.

Please let me know.


Yes a Nvidia GTX 750ti is supported by the closed source binary driver 
according to https://www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx (enter your data 
and you end up at 
https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/90283/en-us).


A GTX 750ti is a bit overpowered for light desktop and media usage but 
based on a dated microarchitecture and lacks hardware support for the 
upcoming h.265 video codec.


Nvidia drops support for old hardware in their driver from time to time 
and newer chips have a lower idle power consumption for a given peak 
performance so you might want to look for a GPU with a newer 
microarchitecture. The GTX950 would be a good fit but the nvidia driver 
port is not yet up to version 352.41 which adds support for the GTX950.

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freebsd-update: No Keys?

2015-09-04 Thread Larry Rosenman

Is there a known issue with the freebsd-update servers?

thebighonker.lerctr.org /home/ler $ sudo  ezjail-admin setup -u
Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found.
Fetching public key from update4.freebsd.org... failed.
Fetching public key from update2.freebsd.org... failed.
Fetching public key from update5.freebsd.org... failed.
Fetching public key from update6.freebsd.org... failed.
Fetching public key from update3.freebsd.org... failed.
No mirrors remaining, giving up.
Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found.
Fetching public key from update6.freebsd.org... failed.
Fetching public key from update4.freebsd.org... failed.
Fetching public key from update5.freebsd.org... failed.
Fetching public key from update3.freebsd.org... failed.
Fetching public key from update2.freebsd.org... failed.
No mirrors remaining, giving up.
thebighonker.lerctr.org /home/ler $

this is coming from my colo.

Thanks!

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Re: GPU suggestion: gtx 750ti

2015-09-04 Thread Dot Yet
makes sense. I am very likely to revert back to haswell when support for it
is there and move this card over to one of the other machines.

so, based on what you said, for now 950 is not an appropriate choice? is it
correct?

thx.
.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Jan Bramkamp  wrote:

>
>
> On 04/09/15 16:34, Dot Yet wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I currently run haswell based desktop and am planning to add a second gpu
>> to get decent graphics functional. I am thinking about purchasing nvidia
>> gtx 750ti. can anyone confirm if its supported by drivers and is capable
>> of
>> hardware acceleration? if not, what current day gpu should i look for? I
>> am
>> not a gamer, but I do like watching 1080p movies/trailers etc.
>>
>> Please let me know.
>>
>
> Yes a Nvidia GTX 750ti is supported by the closed source binary driver
> according to https://www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx (enter your data
> and you end up at
> https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/90283/en-us).
>
> A GTX 750ti is a bit overpowered for light desktop and media usage but
> based on a dated microarchitecture and lacks hardware support for the
> upcoming h.265 video codec.
>
> Nvidia drops support for old hardware in their driver from time to time
> and newer chips have a lower idle power consumption for a given peak
> performance so you might want to look for a GPU with a newer
> microarchitecture. The GTX950 would be a good fit but the nvidia driver
> port is not yet up to version 352.41 which adds support for the GTX950.
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Re: GPU suggestion: gtx 750ti

2015-09-04 Thread Dot Yet
Seems 950 is supported now though:

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/90283/en-us

thx.
.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Dot Yet  wrote:

> makes sense. I am very likely to revert back to haswell when support for
> it is there and move this card over to one of the other machines.
>
> so, based on what you said, for now 950 is not an appropriate choice? is
> it correct?
>
> thx.
> .
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Jan Bramkamp  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 04/09/15 16:34, Dot Yet wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I currently run haswell based desktop and am planning to add a second gpu
>>> to get decent graphics functional. I am thinking about purchasing nvidia
>>> gtx 750ti. can anyone confirm if its supported by drivers and is capable
>>> of
>>> hardware acceleration? if not, what current day gpu should i look for? I
>>> am
>>> not a gamer, but I do like watching 1080p movies/trailers etc.
>>>
>>> Please let me know.
>>>
>>
>> Yes a Nvidia GTX 750ti is supported by the closed source binary driver
>> according to https://www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx (enter your data
>> and you end up at
>> https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/90283/en-us).
>>
>> A GTX 750ti is a bit overpowered for light desktop and media usage but
>> based on a dated microarchitecture and lacks hardware support for the
>> upcoming h.265 video codec.
>>
>> Nvidia drops support for old hardware in their driver from time to time
>> and newer chips have a lower idle power consumption for a given peak
>> performance so you might want to look for a GPU with a newer
>> microarchitecture. The GTX950 would be a good fit but the nvidia driver
>> port is not yet up to version 352.41 which adds support for the GTX950.
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Re: GPU suggestion: gtx 750ti

2015-09-04 Thread Rainer Hurling
Am 04.09.2015 um 18:11 schrieb Dot Yet:
> Seems 950 is supported now though:
> 
> http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/90283/en-us

Yes, there is a binary driver for 950 at NVidia, but AFAIK it does not
exist as a port on FreeBSD until now.

Because there a some new internal changes in the driver and its file and
directory structure, the port has to be adopted to these changes. O.
Hartmann makes a suggestion for a patch almost one month ago [1].

HTH,
Rainer

[1] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=202228

> 
> thx.
> .
> 
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Dot Yet  wrote:
> 
>> makes sense. I am very likely to revert back to haswell when support for
>> it is there and move this card over to one of the other machines.
>>
>> so, based on what you said, for now 950 is not an appropriate choice? is
>> it correct?
>>
>> thx.
>> .
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Jan Bramkamp  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/09/15 16:34, Dot Yet wrote:
>>>
 Hello,

 I currently run haswell based desktop and am planning to add a second gpu
 to get decent graphics functional. I am thinking about purchasing nvidia
 gtx 750ti. can anyone confirm if its supported by drivers and is capable
 of
 hardware acceleration? if not, what current day gpu should i look for? I
 am
 not a gamer, but I do like watching 1080p movies/trailers etc.

 Please let me know.

>>>
>>> Yes a Nvidia GTX 750ti is supported by the closed source binary driver
>>> according to https://www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx (enter your data
>>> and you end up at
>>> https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/90283/en-us).
>>>
>>> A GTX 750ti is a bit overpowered for light desktop and media usage but
>>> based on a dated microarchitecture and lacks hardware support for the
>>> upcoming h.265 video codec.
>>>
>>> Nvidia drops support for old hardware in their driver from time to time
>>> and newer chips have a lower idle power consumption for a given peak
>>> performance so you might want to look for a GPU with a newer
>>> microarchitecture. The GTX950 would be a good fit but the nvidia driver
>>> port is not yet up to version 352.41 which adds support for the GTX950.

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Re: freebsd-update: No Keys?

2015-09-04 Thread Larry Rosenman

On 2015-09-04 10:21, Larry Rosenman wrote:

Is there a known issue with the freebsd-update servers?

thebighonker.lerctr.org /home/ler $ sudo  ezjail-admin setup -u
Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found.
Fetching public key from update4.freebsd.org... failed.
Fetching public key from update2.freebsd.org... failed.
Fetching public key from update5.freebsd.org... failed.
Fetching public key from update6.freebsd.org... failed.
Fetching public key from update3.freebsd.org... failed.
No mirrors remaining, giving up.
Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found.
Fetching public key from update6.freebsd.org... failed.
Fetching public key from update4.freebsd.org... failed.
Fetching public key from update5.freebsd.org... failed.
Fetching public key from update3.freebsd.org... failed.
Fetching public key from update2.freebsd.org... failed.
No mirrors remaining, giving up.
thebighonker.lerctr.org /home/ler $

this is coming from my colo.

Thanks!


To answer my own question for the archives:
The issue is that ezjail-admin is using freebsd-update, and using the 
HOSTS uname -r value.  In this case it

was 10.2-STABLE.  If I fake it out with:
export UNAME_r=10.2-RELEASE
it works fine.

I've sent a message to the ezjail maintainer with this info.

It looks like ezjail needs to fake out freebsd-update when it's dealing 
with it's jail(s).


Thanks to Glen Barber for some insights1

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Re: GPU suggestion: gtx 750ti

2015-09-04 Thread Dot Yet
So, I went ahead an bought a much cheaper card :) GT 720 for CAD70!

followed the instructions mentioned here:
https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/howto-setup-xorg-with-nvidias-driver.52311/,
used the drives from x11/nvidia-driver binary package.

Happy Camper!!

Wonderful graphics! and 4k videos look amazing :) dual monitor setup, both
monitors discovered automatically, I just had to fix their placement in
xfce.

Thanks everyone for their opinion and help. Enjoy the weekend!

tjx.
.








On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Rainer Hurling  wrote:

> Am 04.09.2015 um 18:11 schrieb Dot Yet:
> > Seems 950 is supported now though:
> >
> > http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/90283/en-us
>
> Yes, there is a binary driver for 950 at NVidia, but AFAIK it does not
> exist as a port on FreeBSD until now.
>
> Because there a some new internal changes in the driver and its file and
> directory structure, the port has to be adopted to these changes. O.
> Hartmann makes a suggestion for a patch almost one month ago [1].
>
> HTH,
> Rainer
>
> [1] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=202228
>
> >
> > thx.
> > .
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Dot Yet  wrote:
> >
> >> makes sense. I am very likely to revert back to haswell when support for
> >> it is there and move this card over to one of the other machines.
> >>
> >> so, based on what you said, for now 950 is not an appropriate choice? is
> >> it correct?
> >>
> >> thx.
> >> .
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Jan Bramkamp  wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 04/09/15 16:34, Dot Yet wrote:
> >>>
>  Hello,
> 
>  I currently run haswell based desktop and am planning to add a second
> gpu
>  to get decent graphics functional. I am thinking about purchasing
> nvidia
>  gtx 750ti. can anyone confirm if its supported by drivers and is
> capable
>  of
>  hardware acceleration? if not, what current day gpu should i look
> for? I
>  am
>  not a gamer, but I do like watching 1080p movies/trailers etc.
> 
>  Please let me know.
> 
> >>>
> >>> Yes a Nvidia GTX 750ti is supported by the closed source binary driver
> >>> according to https://www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx (enter your
> data
> >>> and you end up at
> >>> https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/90283/en-us).
> >>>
> >>> A GTX 750ti is a bit overpowered for light desktop and media usage but
> >>> based on a dated microarchitecture and lacks hardware support for the
> >>> upcoming h.265 video codec.
> >>>
> >>> Nvidia drops support for old hardware in their driver from time to time
> >>> and newer chips have a lower idle power consumption for a given peak
> >>> performance so you might want to look for a GPU with a newer
> >>> microarchitecture. The GTX950 would be a good fit but the nvidia driver
> >>> port is not yet up to version 352.41 which adds support for the GTX950.
>
>
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Re: GPU suggestion: gtx 750ti

2015-09-04 Thread Dot Yet
one thing though, there is some minor tearing, not sure if there is away to
fix it. any suggestions?

thx.
.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Dot Yet  wrote:

> So, I went ahead an bought a much cheaper card :) GT 720 for CAD70!
>
> followed the instructions mentioned here:
> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/howto-setup-xorg-with-nvidias-driver.52311/,
> used the drives from x11/nvidia-driver binary package.
>
> Happy Camper!!
>
> Wonderful graphics! and 4k videos look amazing :) dual monitor setup, both
> monitors discovered automatically, I just had to fix their placement in
> xfce.
>
> Thanks everyone for their opinion and help. Enjoy the weekend!
>
> tjx.
> .
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Rainer Hurling  wrote:
>
>> Am 04.09.2015 um 18:11 schrieb Dot Yet:
>> > Seems 950 is supported now though:
>> >
>> > http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/90283/en-us
>>
>> Yes, there is a binary driver for 950 at NVidia, but AFAIK it does not
>> exist as a port on FreeBSD until now.
>>
>> Because there a some new internal changes in the driver and its file and
>> directory structure, the port has to be adopted to these changes. O.
>> Hartmann makes a suggestion for a patch almost one month ago [1].
>>
>> HTH,
>> Rainer
>>
>> [1] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=202228
>>
>> >
>> > thx.
>> > .
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Dot Yet  wrote:
>> >
>> >> makes sense. I am very likely to revert back to haswell when support
>> for
>> >> it is there and move this card over to one of the other machines.
>> >>
>> >> so, based on what you said, for now 950 is not an appropriate choice?
>> is
>> >> it correct?
>> >>
>> >> thx.
>> >> .
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Jan Bramkamp  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 04/09/15 16:34, Dot Yet wrote:
>> >>>
>>  Hello,
>> 
>>  I currently run haswell based desktop and am planning to add a
>> second gpu
>>  to get decent graphics functional. I am thinking about purchasing
>> nvidia
>>  gtx 750ti. can anyone confirm if its supported by drivers and is
>> capable
>>  of
>>  hardware acceleration? if not, what current day gpu should i look
>> for? I
>>  am
>>  not a gamer, but I do like watching 1080p movies/trailers etc.
>> 
>>  Please let me know.
>> 
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes a Nvidia GTX 750ti is supported by the closed source binary driver
>> >>> according to https://www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx (enter your
>> data
>> >>> and you end up at
>> >>> https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/90283/en-us).
>> >>>
>> >>> A GTX 750ti is a bit overpowered for light desktop and media usage but
>> >>> based on a dated microarchitecture and lacks hardware support for the
>> >>> upcoming h.265 video codec.
>> >>>
>> >>> Nvidia drops support for old hardware in their driver from time to
>> time
>> >>> and newer chips have a lower idle power consumption for a given peak
>> >>> performance so you might want to look for a GPU with a newer
>> >>> microarchitecture. The GTX950 would be a good fit but the nvidia
>> driver
>> >>> port is not yet up to version 352.41 which adds support for the
>> GTX950.
>>
>>
>
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