Re: error reports by rshd in /var/log/messages

2000-04-11 Thread Matthew Sean Thyer

On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, John Polstra wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Matthew Sean Thyer  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > I stopped the messages by adding the following line below the rshd
> > line in /etc/pam.conf
> > 
> > rshdauthrequiredpam_permit.so
> 
> The way PAM works, that will let _anybody_ login via rsh without a
> password.  I don't think it's what you want.
> 
> John
> 
Wont this only happen when rshd becomes PAMerised ?  or has that happened
already ?

If its already been done, why the console messages ?

If it hasn't been done yet I suppose I wont notice when it gets done and
then I'll be open.

So whats the situation and what should people have in their pam.conf to
eliminate these messages ?



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Re: error reports by rshd in /var/log/messages

2000-04-11 Thread John Polstra

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Matthew Sean Thyer  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > The way PAM works, that will let _anybody_ login via rsh without a
> > password.  I don't think it's what you want.
>
> Wont this only happen when rshd becomes PAMerised ? or has that
> happened already ?

I haven't been following PAM closely as it is now maintained by Mark
Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.  Also, I never use rsh.  But rshd must
have been PAMerized already -- otherwise it couldn't emit the messages
you reported.

> If its already been done, why the console messages ?

Probably you got the messages because your pam.conf file wasn't
up-to-date.  Here's what I see in "src/etc/pam.conf":

# r-utils are broken; ensure this doesn't bother folk
rshdauthsufficient  pam_deny.so

These lines were added on January 4th by markm.

John
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Re: Netscape 6 Linux pre-release, got it going.

2000-04-11 Thread Marcel Moolenaar

Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS SPS Perth wrote:
> 
> It needed the libjpeg & libgtk rpms from the RedHat 6.1 CD (perhaps these
> could be added to Linux_base?)

Hmmm... I think we may as well break up linux_base in that case.
linux_base is rather big as it is...

Thanks for the feedback.

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Re: Netscape 6 Linux pre-release, got it going.

2000-04-11 Thread Dr. Brain

I've had a good deal of success getting Mozilla to build straight out of the 
nightly source tar files:
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/latest/mozilla-source.tar.gz

I recommend installing the jpeg and png libraries out of the ports tree and
using a ~/.mozconfig with the following lines:
ac_add_options --with-jpeg
ac_add_options --with-zlib
ac_add_options --with-png

You may want to add:
ac_add_options --disable-debug
ac_add_options --enable_optimize

More information can be found at http://www.mozilla.org/build such as a handy
.mozconfig generator among other things.

To build mozilla: gmake -f client.mk build

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Re: world build fails - somewhere in netgraph stuff

2000-04-11 Thread Ollivier Robert

According to Christoph Kukulies:
> echo "#define NETGRAPH_MPPC_ENCRYPTION 1" >> opt_netgraph.h
> make: don't know how to make rc4.c. Stop

I guess you're like me and using the crypto code from internat ? The rc4 code
is not yet there so it fails...
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Re: Netscape 6 Linux pre-release, got it going.

2000-04-11 Thread Marcel Moolenaar

Michael Reifenberger wrote:

> > Hmmm... I think we may as well break up linux_base in that case.
> > linux_base is rather big as it is...
> While you are at it, could you please add the pam-0.68-7.i386.rpm to
> linux_devtools? It is needed by the SAP R/3 Installer.

I don't think pam is a development tool, which makes linux_devtools the
wrong port. I also don't think we need pam in any other port if it's
needed in only one or two situations. Since the ports use rpms, you can
always, and are free, to install any additional rpms you want/need. It
actually is a feature :-)

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Re: Netscape 6 Linux pre-release, got it going.

2000-04-11 Thread Michael Reifenberger

Hi,
> Hmmm... I think we may as well break up linux_base in that case.
> linux_base is rather big as it is...
While you are at it, could you please add the pam-0.68-7.i386.rpm to
linux_devtools? It is needed by the SAP R/3 Installer.

Bye!

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Re: Netscape 6 Linux pre-release, got it going.

2000-04-11 Thread Brian Fundakowski Feldman

On 11 Apr 2000, Dr. Brain wrote:

> I've had a good deal of success getting Mozilla to build straight out of the 
> nightly source tar files:
> ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/latest/mozilla-source.tar.gz
> 
> I recommend installing the jpeg and png libraries out of the ports tree and
> using a ~/.mozconfig with the following lines:
> [...]

I use this:
/usr2/build/mozilla/configure  --enable-optimize --with-jpeg=/usr/local 
--with-png=/usr/local --with-zlib=/usr --enable-x11-shm --disable-test --disable-debug 
--disable-mathml --with-pthreads

Note that you WILL want to support X11 shm if you want decent rapid redraw
speed.  The X11-SHM support in the autoconf is totally broken for any real
OS, so if you have a real OS that separates X11 includes from /usr/include,
you'll need to chenge this line:

for ac_hdr in sys/ipc.h shm.h sys/shm.h X11/extensions/XShm.h

What I do is to change the next ac_try= line to:
ac_try="$ac_cpp -I/usr/X11R6/include conftest.$ac_ext >/dev/null 2>conftest.out"

However, I imagine it would work to just remove the X!1/extensions/XShm.h
from the list, since that's a given on XFree86.

> To build mozilla: gmake -f client.mk build

gmake -f client.mk checkout seems to be quite broken.  It doesn't actually
check anything out, but if I perform exactly what it says it's doing, that
works and updates mozilla.  It used to work.

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Re: Netscape 6 Linux pre-release, got it going.

2000-04-11 Thread Michael Reifenberger

On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
...
> I don't think pam is a development tool, which makes linux_devtools the
> wrong port. I also don't think we need pam in any other port if it's
> needed in only one or two situations. Since the ports use rpms, you can
> always, and are free, to install any additional rpms you want/need. It
> actually is a feature :-)
In this case, you are right.
The problem is generally that linux ports (Oracle, SAP, ...)
depend for proper work on a Linux environment not just the libs.
So where to start (just the libs) and where to end (the complete RH6.1)?

FE: Usually I get best results in compatibilty (without too much hacking
the shellscripts) when creating an linuxuser account with /compat/linux/bin/*sh 
as loginshell. But since the searchpaths are the ones under /compat/linux/* 
afterwards no native FreeBSD binaries are found unless specified exacly
(/usr/bin/more instead of more)...

Maybe the sollution could be putting the rpm's into (more) groups like on the
FreeBSD CD's with some interactivity like the XFree port.

Bye!

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Strange phenomen accessing a CDROM contents under linuxerator

2000-04-11 Thread Michael Reifenberger

Hi,
looking at directories on a mounted CDROM returns fewer files under the
linuxerator as watched under a native account. 
What I did:
 I have burned my /usr/bin content on CD using mkisofs.
  (mkisofs ...-d -D -l -L -N -r -T... if this is of interest but
   I could reproduce the same effect with foreign CD's too)
 As user root:
# mount -tcd9660 /dev/acd0c /mnt/acd
# uname
FreeBSD
# ls /mnt/acd/usr/bin/ | wc -l
425
# su - linuser # A user with /compat/linux/bin/tcsh as loginshell)
# uname
Linux
# ls /mnt/acd/usr/bin|wc -l
 28
  ???
It seems that the entries dont miss randomly but get cut after some point.
FreeBSD is -current, Linux is linux_base and linux_devel from ports.
Kernel and (linux)module are in sync.

Anyone able to reproduce this?

Bye!

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Re: Strange phenomen accessing a CDROM contents under linuxerator

2000-04-11 Thread Marcel Moolenaar

[cc'd to -emulation. Please remove -current when replying to this]

Michael Reifenberger wrote:
[snip]
> FreeBSD
> # ls /mnt/acd/usr/bin/ | wc -l
> 425
[snip]
> Linux
> # ls /mnt/acd/usr/bin|wc -l
>  28
[snip]
> FreeBSD is -current, Linux is linux_base and linux_devel from ports.

Do you see this on other filesystems as well?

BTW: How old are your linux_base and linux_devtools ports?

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Re: Strange phenomen accessing a CDROM contents under linuxerator

2000-04-11 Thread Vladimir Kushnir

Looks like this phenomenon isn't connected with CDROM. Actually, I see it
rather often with file selectors in Linux apps here (like Netscape when
choosing local file, StarOffice etc.): some files/dirs are missing. 

On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Michael Reifenberger wrote:

> Hi,
> looking at directories on a mounted CDROM returns fewer files under the
> linuxerator as watched under a native account. 
[...]
> It seems that the entries dont miss randomly but get cut after some point.
> FreeBSD is -current, Linux is linux_base and linux_devel from ports.
> Kernel and (linux)module are in sync.

Same environment.

> 
> Anyone able to reproduce this?
> 
> Bye!
> 
> Michael Reifenberger
> ^.*Plaut.*$, IT, R/3 Basis, GPS

Regards,
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Re: Strange phenomen accessing a CDROM contents under linuxerator

2000-04-11 Thread Walter Brameld

On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, in a never-ending search for enlightenment, Vladimir Kushnir 
wrote:
> Looks like this phenomenon isn't connected with CDROM. Actually, I see it
> rather often with file selectors in Linux apps here (like Netscape when
> choosing local file, StarOffice etc.): some files/dirs are missing. 
> 
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Michael Reifenberger wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > looking at directories on a mounted CDROM returns fewer files under the
> > linuxerator as watched under a native account. 
> [...]
> > It seems that the entries dont miss randomly but get cut after some point.
> > FreeBSD is -current, Linux is linux_base and linux_devel from ports.
> > Kernel and (linux)module are in sync.
> 
> Same environment.
> 
> > 
> > Anyone able to reproduce this?
> > 
> > Bye!
> > 
> > Michael Reifenberger
> > ^.*Plaut.*$, IT, R/3 Basis, GPS
> 
> Regards,
> Vladimir
> -- 
I see the same thing on 4.0-STABLE, so far only using linux-netscape.
When I go to select a directory for download, or when accessing an HTML
file to be opened, certain directories always appear to be missing.
Only one that comes to mind at the moment is the ports directory when
looking in /usr.

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make release problems

2000-04-11 Thread Ben Smithurst

first, is a "make release" of a 5.0-current snapshot supposed to be
possible on 4-stable?  It seems to be failing here, but perhaps I'm just
dumb in hoping it would work to start with. :-)

===> sys/modules/tx
@ -> /usr/src/sys
machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include
touch opt_bdg.h
perl @/kern/makeobjops.pl -h @/kern/device_if.m
perl @/kern/makeobjops.pl -h @/kern/bus_if.m
perl @/kern/makeobjops.pl -h @/pci/pci_if.m
perl @/kern/makeobjops.pl -h @/dev/mii/miibus_if.m
rm -f .depend
mkdep -f .depend -a   -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include 
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include  /
usr/src/sys/modules/tx/../../pci/if_tx.c
/usr/src/sys/modules/tx/../../pci/if_tx.c:68: bpf.h: No such file or directory
mkdep: compile failed
*** Error code 1

Should I just do a normal "make buildworld" instead of trying to do a
"make release"?  It looks as though if_tx.c is #including "bpf.h" when
nothing else in /sys/pci seems to, which strikes me as odd as well.

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Quickie question on UDMA/33

2000-04-11 Thread Jonathan Smith

I looked through the archives but I didn't see much current on the
subject (esp. under 4.0).

I have two different machines, both with AsusP5A motherboards and
Western Digital Caviar hard drives that should support UDMA/33, as should
the Chipset.

Both boot up, trying UDMA mode, throwing ICRC READ ERROR's then kick back
down to PIO mode 4.

They each have _different_ Caviar drives, one's running 66 MHz on the
motherboard (older K6/2-300) the other 100 MHz (newer K6/2-450).  FWIW,
the Sony DVD-ROM in the latter machine also dislikes running at DMA
mode.

Bios's are set to do auto-chose pio/dma modes.

I've resolved to simply adding in the rc to reset them to pio mode, to get
it over with (but I still get the errors at boot-up prior to the rc doing
them).

I simply use 'device ata' etc. forms in the knerel config.

Thanks





dmesg

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FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Fri Apr  7 11:58:05 EST 2000

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Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 300682509 Hz
CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (300.68-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "AuthenticAMD"  Id = 0x58c  Stepping = 12
  Features=0x8021bf
  AMD Features=0x8800
real memory  = 134201344 (131056K bytes)
avail memory = 127262720 (124280K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc033a000.
md0: Malloc disk
npx0:  on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0:  on motherboard
pci0:  on pcib0
pcib1:  at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1:  on pcib1
pci1:  at 0.0 irq 11
chip1:  at device 3.0 on pci0
isab0:  at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0:  on isab0
ed0:  port 0xd800-0xd81f irq 10 at device 9.0 on 
pci0
ed0: supplying EUI64: 00:40:33:ff:fe:98:c9:da
ed0: address 00:40:33:98:c9:da, type NE2000 (16 bit) 
atapci0:  port 0xd400-0xd40f irq 0 at device 15.0 
on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
fdc0:  at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0:  at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0:  irq 1 on atkbdc0
vga0:  at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
sc0:  on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200>
sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 8250
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
ppc0: parallel port not found.
ep0: <3Com 3C509-TP EtherLink III> at port 0x340-0x34f irq 7 on isa0
ep0: Ethernet address 00:20:af:09:50:33
ep1: <3Com 3C509-TPO EtherLink III> at port 0x300-0x30f irq 5 on isa0
ep1: Ethernet address 00:a0:24:ea:8f:33
IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, 
default to deny, logging limited to 100 packets/entry by default
ad0: 9787MB  [19885/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33
(null): MODE_SENSE_BIG - UNIT ATTENTION asc=29 ascq=00 error=04
acd0: CDROM  at ata1-master using PIO0
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 225303 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 67727 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 205367 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 65823 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 65823 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 4991055 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 203071 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 4991103 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 5122159 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 133215 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 4663423 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 4727359 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 4727359 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 4727359 retrying

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Re: Netscape 6 Linux pre-release, got it going.

2000-04-11 Thread Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami

 * From: Marcel Moolenaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 * Hmmm... I think we may as well break up linux_base in that case.
 * linux_base is rather big as it is...

I was thinking about that too.  Maybe you can make a few Linux library
ports ("linux_graphics" etc.) so people who want to do something small
don't necessarily have to install the whole enchilada.

Please talk to me about repository copies when you are ready.

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Re: Netscape 6 Linux pre-release, got it going.

2000-04-11 Thread Kris Kennaway

On 11 Apr 2000, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote:

> I was thinking about that too.  Maybe you can make a few Linux library
> ports ("linux_graphics" etc.) so people who want to do something small
> don't necessarily have to install the whole enchilada.
> 
> Please talk to me about repository copies when you are ready.

I don't think we should be breaking up the current linux_base or linux_dev
ports, because those are (supposed to be) default Redhat installs so
redhat linux binaries get the environment they are expecting.

For additional packages, having monolithic RPM sets seems to me to be
bloat - why can't we set up a 1-1 mapping of RPM to package, perhaps by a
single "portal" redhat rpm port which grabs an RPM from the redhat site
(possibly choosing from a list as an option), munges it to extract the
PLIST and installs it?

I've suggested a similar "portal" port for the p5-CPAN ports in the
past: they're packaged by CPAN with all the information we need to know to
build a FreeBSD package, it's just a matter of munging the information in
the right way.

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Re: Integrating QMAIL in the world

2000-04-11 Thread Joe Greco

> At 2:44 PM -0400 2000/4/9, Patrick Bihan-Faou wrote:
> 
> >  The advantage would be that we can have a fairly decent qmail
> configuration
> >  using the standard make world feature.
> >
> >  Is there any interest in that kind of work ?
> 
> Considering the number of qmail-specific pieces that need to be 
> installed to support it (and the resulting domino effect), the highly 
> negative impacts that qmail is notorious for, and that it is not 
> intended to be a drop-in replacement for sendmail, I would be highly 
> opposed to this change.
> 
> 
> If we are actively interested in finding a replacement for the 
> open-source sendmail MTA, I would prefer one that was designed from 
> the beginning with security in mind (including going so far as being 
> intended to run in a chroot() environment), is intended to avoid 
> undesirable behaviour as much as possible, and is intended to be a 
> drop-in replacement for sendmail to the greatest degree possible.
> 
> In other words, if we're going to be replacing sendmail with an 
> alternative MTA, I'd prefer postfix over qmail, and I believe I can 
> marshall some pretty strong arguments for that position.

Perhaps it's time to revisit something I proposed several years ago.

Remove Sendmail from the base system - or, at least, make it a "package"
that is removable with the package management tool.  Then be able to add
another mailer (or an updated Sendmail) in its place.  Ideally, Sendmail
would be available as a package for installation as part of the base
system, just like games or info or proflibs.

I would love to see this happen with other components of the system as
well, such as BIND.

While it is fantastic that FreeBSD comes out of the box so fully
functional, it does make it a bit of a pain for those of us who intend
to build servers - we have to disable the original before installing a
new package.  :-/
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Re: make release problems

2000-04-11 Thread Anatoly Vorobey

On Wed, Apr 12, 2000 at 12:23:07AM +0100, Ben Smithurst wrote:
> usr/src/sys/modules/tx/../../pci/if_tx.c
> /usr/src/sys/modules/tx/../../pci/if_tx.c:68: bpf.h: No such file or directory
> mkdep: compile failed

I have the same problem making world. Apparently bpf.h sits in the kernel
compile directory (generated by config, just consists of one line), but
isn't seen by if_tx.c when it's compiled as a KLD. I'm CCing the person
who committed modules/tx/Makefile yesterday.

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Re: Integrating QMAIL in the world

2000-04-11 Thread Chris Wasser

On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 05:21:24PM -0500, Joe Greco wrote:
> While it is fantastic that FreeBSD comes out of the box so fully
> functional, it does make it a bit of a pain for those of us who intend
> to build servers - we have to disable the original before installing a
> new package.  :-/

man mailwrapper



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Re: Integrating QMAIL in the world

2000-04-11 Thread Joe Greco

> On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 05:21:24PM -0500, Joe Greco wrote:
> > While it is fantastic that FreeBSD comes out of the box so fully
> > functional, it does make it a bit of a pain for those of us who intend
> > to build servers - we have to disable the original before installing a
> > new package.  :-/
> 
> man mailwrapper

No, that's not what I'm talking about.  If you want to install the latest
Sendmail, what do you do?  (hint: it has nothing to do with mailwrapper)

I'd like it to be something like:

# pkg_delete sendmail; pkg_add sendmail

Right now, to do a chrooted sendmail, not only do you have to remove the
pre-existing sendmail:

# chmod 000 /usr/sbin/sendmail /etc/sendmail.cf (etc etc)

but you also have to do some things to install it chrooted someplace safe.

Some of us also view the concept of having to actually change executables
within the base system as something nearing criminal.  I _really_ like the
idea of mounting my systems RO and very secure.  Changing modes on files
doesn't bother me so much, but I'd prefer not to do it.

The ideal situation would be where sendmail did not come installed by
default.
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not all dirs visible under Linux emu

2000-04-11 Thread Szilveszter Adam

Hello everybody!

Although I konw that this thread has moved to -emulation but I would like to
throw in just a last piece of information... I think we are looking at
different issues here... the thing that several files are not shown in the
*same* filesystem and directory is the
part I do not understand. However, the fact that the file selector dialogs
seemingly do not show all dirs is a different matter, at least here. If you cd to a
dir which also exists under /usr/compat/linux then you will be taken there
instead of the "real" one. So, if you cd to /usr, which is shown in the file
selector panel, then you will be immediately and transparently placed into
/usr/compat/linux/usr. This behavior has been observed here since at least
3.3 or so... the odd thing is that install scripts and programs often see
the paths the correct way now, so eg earlier you could install StarOffice
only to /usr/compat/linux/whatever, because the install program did not see
the other dirs. Now it does. So does the install shield of RealPlayer7.

So, I would say, a partial improvement over previous behaviour already...

(Using 4.0-STABLE of April 3rd, linux_base is the one from ports, which is
current now.)

Just a datapoint, in case someone is interested...

Regards:
Szilveszter ADAM
Szeged University
Szeged Hungary
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Re: Strange phenomen accessing a CDROM contents under linuxerator

2000-04-11 Thread Michael Reifenberger

On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
...
> Do you see this on other filesystems as well?
No.
> 
> BTW: How old are your linux_base and linux_devtools ports?
RH6.1 based as of a few months ago.

Bye!

Michael Reifenberger
^.*Plaut.*$, IT, R/3 Basis, GPS



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