Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 7.0 Name
On 4/3/2024 6:42 AM, Niklas Haas wrote: On Mon, 01 Apr 2024 19:42:29 -0400 Sean McGovern wrote: Hi, On Mon, Apr 1, 2024, 18:00 Lynne wrote: Apr 1, 2024, 22:01 bymich...@niedermayer.cc: Hi all I think we didnt decide on a name for 7.0 yet Previously suggested names: Darwin, De broglie, Dijkstra, Galois, Gauss, Jacobi, Jemison Johnson Leavitt Maxwell, Mellin, Perelman, Poincaré, Ramanujan, Sagan, Ting Viterbi, Voltaire, de Sitter, Please reply with what you prefer or add more to the list. If we end in a tie, previously suggested names will be favoured I will vote last so that i can resolve a tie if one occurs. Voltaire ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". Not sure if I am allowed to pick, my choice is Dijkstra. +1 -- Sean McGovern ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". NINEVAH ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-devel] root access voting
On 11/2/2024 4:34 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: Hi At teh current videolan developer days there where several surprise votes on FFmpegs infractructure. And to the best of my knowledge no remote participation and no recording. So let me try to reply to the idea of the general assembly choosing who has root access. We have seen a raise of increasingly sophisticated attacks in recent times. For example thx xz backdoor, where the maintainer was pressured by many people to add jia tan as maintainer who then eventually added a sophisticated hidden backdoor. Compromising xz and ssh. (Which almost was not even detected) We have seen batteries being exchanged by explosives by the mosad injuring members of a terrorist organization and probably a few innocent people. You may agree with fighting terror but do you agree with explosives, in maybe the phone someone of your familiy bought on ebay ? Just yesterday, lottie-player was replaced by a compromised version. Stealing peoples money. Our GA is build of everyone who has "authored more than 20 patches in the last 36 months in the main FFmpeg repository" This is a very low bar for an attacker. Even if we did KYC (which i think we should not) hiring 50 people to each write 20 patches is very doable even for a small company or heck even a single individual could do this. Let alone, a state actor. What this means, and i think this is obvious to everyone, is the GA cannot control critical infractructure access or things that allow attacks by state actors. Thats besides the root admins should generally be professional admins and not "popular politicans". Which is ultimately what a popular vote produces. Also the root team has to get along with each other and trust each other, obviously. And last, where is that professional admin who wants to do work and who has no root access ? I have to the best of my knowledge given every professional admin we have on the FFmpeg team, who needed root access, root access. Yes i would not give root access to people who are involved in every 2nd flamewar or who i totally do not get along. Or if the request comes in a strange context, ... But does the GA want to override that ? You think that would improve things ? Please lets not turn root access into a harris vs trump style democracy If theres a professional, trusted, admin and there work that needs to be done and (s)he has time, ability and will to do that work, nothing strange, and noone says they dont get along with him/her. I have and will give them root access. if thats not the case I dont think people would want me to give them root access. thx ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". maybe train an A.I. that monitors and analyze each new patch can be useful ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Discussion about mails from 9 years ago Was: [PATCH 1/2] doc/community: Add a standard set of rules for software development mailing lists
Hi all, On 11/24/2024 1:49 PM, James Almer wrote: On 11/24/2024 6:24 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: Hi On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 06:02:55PM -0300, James Almer wrote: On 11/24/2024 5:43 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: Hi On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 04:11:42PM -0300, James Almer wrote: On 11/24/2024 4:09 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: Now reality is, Paul (the 2nd most active developer of all time) was bullied out of FFmpeg. In private mail he spoke about being treated like a slave. Huh?? By whom? by the community, by us all maybe "bullied" is a badly choosen word here, but the way i understand it, is paul dislike having to deal with "disturbing" reviews I think only Nicolas was against his patches in general, sometimes for a fair reason, others probably not so much. I at least helped him every time i could. There has to be another reason for him to leave like he did. Iam fairly sure, if we would have left him change whatever he wants in his code and gave him final authority there that he would not have left. But he could do that. He did it all the time, and rarely got opposition since it was almost always for filters he wrote and maintained. BUT i do not know that He also pushed patches to his stuff bypassing the mailing list and review process. It introduced a bug or 2 and I think i pointed that out. I dont remember at all how i worded that. And there was teh conflicts where he pointed to bugs but refused to provide samples or details, making fixing them often impossible. While he caused this it lead to further friction. This really feels like a failure of mutual understanding, noone benefitted from this Not adding test was a problem, yes. Such a trivial thing to do for most filters and he'd still refuse. Also teh CC was re-elected at the time of him leaving IIRC. He may have preceived that a ban or harsh actions against him where imminent from the new CC. Thing is that nothing like that was imminent. He got a temp ban (like a week?) after several warnings for being too aggressive in his replies. I don't know why he was aggressive to begin with, and i even asked him to stop before anything was done. I dont know how to undo the decissions from the past. But i want to undo what led to paul leaving Sorry to interfere into your conversation, I just wanted to say important things here. Emotions are human, and to stay human with its own emotions are essentials since it's from our mistakes and the mistakes of other than we can mutually learn from each other. This said, ban someone because he/she 's too agressive or even insulting, at the end a lose lose will occur. Rather, if no ban is done, ok, after the storm, calm will come and compromise will be done, all the time... this is just a share of my life experience... Cheers David Jefferson ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] libpostproc splitout
On 11/26/2024 6:25 AM, Nicolas George wrote: Jean-Baptiste Kempf (12024-11-26): Once again you attack people directly on threads. « your kind of » ≠ « you », please do not abuse code of conduct rules to silence discourse that you want to silence. It is part of the kind of governance that is harming the project. ok folks, maybe it's time to get out of the kinder garden and solve your conflict out of the developer mailing list. I subscribed here to follow the technical development of a software, not for philosophical conflicts or conflicts between developers. We are all here for one goal, the quality of the software. for the rest indeed the best would be discord, physical meeting or else. as this you'll have all the time to fight or sleep together thanks ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
