Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022
On Mon, 2022-10-31 at 03:49 +0100, Ángel wrote: > On 2022-10-26 at 12:00 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > That's interesting. It looks like Gnome are using an old version of > > Discourse then. > > > > The comments about categories and topics is interesting. I asked if > > it were possible to create sub-categories in the Applications > > category and the answer was a complete and resounding NO. > > I think you refer to > https://discourse.gnome.org/t/sub-categories/11733/6 Yes, that's the one. I think there was a couple of things that peeved me about that discussion. Clearly they don't want anything to do with mailing lists, nor do they seem to really care about the transition - "this is what we are providing, live with it", if you don't like it, find somewhere else. I fear that it's the kid with a ball - it's my ball, so we are going to play by my rules - and the kid is still playing by their rules as they kick the ball against the wall on their own. The comments also about them providing the Gnome ecosystem, that Evolution lives with in, for free, and so we should be a damn sight more grateful about it. I feel that the contribution that *we* provide for free in supporting the applications that makes Gnome what it is has been deftly overlooked in all this. This list has provided a focus for user support of Evolution and has many people with decades of experience of using it. The support will almost certainly now become fragmented: There will be a new mailing list which may, or may not, fly; there will be Discourse that Gnome (not Evolution) stalwarts will use - but not sure users will ever find it; but I think most support will be via the distro forums now. > > > > > > Plain text emails going into the system should be just that. I send > > them as plain text not as markdown. If I wanted to give them some > > form of extra formatting I would use HTML. Can't text just be > > interpreted as text. > > Plain text emails often use _some_ symbols for *emphasis*. > While there is no clear standard for that, interpreting them as > markdown isn't that an odd choice. It looks like in Discourse the plain text emails are shoved into an HTML container without any further processing when displayed. So all the white space is collapsed and a variable width font is used destroying any semblance of formatting. If they just surrounded plain text with tags it would be better. I have nothing against Markdown and I happily use it other on-line things - but not email. > > > That would be sensible. Although markdown should be mostly backwards > compatible when feed with plaintext. > Yes, Markdown is - but Discourse seems to just take the Markdown elements, and only those elements and change them into the equivalent HTML leaving the rest of the text to the whims of a browser. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Has somebody still a GNOME Discourse account?
> Hi, > > I wonder if whitespaces are kept by the plain text > part of the Discourse's multipart messages, if the > body of an email send to Discourse does start and end > with a line containing three times the tilde or > whatever else the used markdown implementation > provides for code. Apparently plain text is actually interpreted as Markdown. You can mark a block as code by surrounding it with three backticks (a "Fenced Code Block") or by indenting by 4 spaces. I presume though that if it's a multipart message, the content used in the post will be the HTML bit, not the plain text bit. > > It might look disgusting as a forum post, probably > like syntax highlighted code, but might provide a > proper formatted plain text for emails. Personally I think plain text emails should be rendered as such. If Markdown elements are detected, then render it as Markdown. > > Is somebody who still has got an account interested to > test it? > I haven't tested it, just reflecting what people have said and by looking up the Markdown reference manual. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Weird menu bar above menu bar
Doesn't anyone read archives or past posts anymore. On Fri, 2022-11-04 at 10:07 +, Krauß, Peter (SCC) via evolution- list wrote: > Hello folks, > > since my last system update I have a weird menu bar above the actual > menu bar (actual menu bar is the one, that has the drop down menus > "File", "Edit", "View" etc.; the weird menu bar is buttons for "Compose > " and "Send & Receive" and has the window title in the middle). > I attached a screenshot about it. > > It's a bit annoying, it uses quite a lot of screen space and having > those buttons in an extra row seems redundant. I wanted them back in > the tool bar. > > So, is there any way to get this back to how it was? Is it related to > Evolution? Or maybe to gtk? > To save you the bother of looking ... From a few days ago: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2022-November/msg1.html or a bit further back: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2022-October/msg00098.html https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2022-September/msg00023.html It's called Client Side Decoration. Is part of Gnome going forward and has been used on other apps for a long time. It just seems to be more distuptive/divisive on Evolution. Discussion here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/2039 and you can get the old interface back with: gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.shell use-header-bar false and restart Evolution. But get used to it, I suspect that setting won't work forever. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?
On Fri, 2022-11-04 at 13:23 +, Mike wrote: > This is my first post here and it is a long one. > > I did look at the index of previous posts but there is no way to > search through all of them, so I truly do apologize in advance... Go to https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/ and there's a search box at the top. > > > On the new platform, with the data imported (and all the data is > there) only a day after I imported it, it no longer displayed any new > mail. > > It says there is new mail via a notification popup, but there is > nothing in the inbox or anywhere else. Help -> Contents -> Common Mail Questions -> I cannot see some emails Primarily check that you don't have any search terms imposed and that the Show: next to the search box is set to "All Messages". P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution plug-in for word count?
On Fri, 2022-11-04 at 23:51 +, Mike wrote: > > I will but I really think this is a matter of evolution messing up on > the import of a very large backup file from another computer. > > It's a guess, but one informed by forty-five years in IT and five > years retired and still dealing with IT. The original VM evolution > imported the PSTs, not an evolution backup. I think your quoting and replying is a bit screwed up ... ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?
Not that it really matters now, but top-posting & HTML mail is frowned on here ... And your quoting levels are screwed up ... And you really should trim posts to just relevant stuff. You aren't inhabiting an Outlook only world these days ... On Fri, 2022-11-04 at 23:46 +, Mike wrote: > > Yes the VM is, and was, off. > > > > And anyway, both are set to leave mail on the server for six days > > during this rollout of the new platform. So it should not make a > > difference. :-) I have a mail app running on my Adroid Cell phone > > and it loaded mail right along with MS Outlook for many years > > without an issue. So I fail to see how that would or should matter. Because sometimes another application grabs an email and marks it as read before your Evolution can see it. Anyway, in another email that seems to have been tagged as spam and is awaiting moderation I said that you need to look at the bar above the message list and make sure the "Show:" drop down says "All Messages" and not something like "Read Messages". But I see yet another of my messages has been tagged as spam for no good reason. You might, eventually, see this message ... P. > ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Why are my messages being tagged as spam and being moderated? on this list??
Camels and straws come to mind ... ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution plug-in for word count?
On Sat, 2022-11-05 at 13:04 +, Adam Hardy via evolution-list wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: Pete Biggs > > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution plug-in for word count? > > Date: 05/11/22 02:05:13 > > > > On Fri, 2022-11-04 at 23:51 +, Mike wrote: > > > > > > I will but I really think this is a matter of evolution messing > > > up on > > > the import of a very large backup file from another computer. > > > > > > It's a guess, but one informed by forty-five years in IT and five > > > years retired and still dealing with IT. The original VM > > > evolution > > > imported the PSTs, not an evolution backup. > > > > I think your quoting and replying is a bit screwed up ... > > I second that. I guess I have a right to being disappointed after > seeing so many answers to my original question Quite. But to make you slightly less disappointed - I don't think there is a direct method of doing what you want, but as a one-off I would probably highlight,then cut&paste or right-click the text into an editor. All bets are off if it's an HTML formatted bit of text. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?
> > On the new platform, with the data imported (and all the data is > there) only a day after I imported it, it no longer displayed any new > mail. > > It says there is new mail via a notification popup, but there is > nothing in the inbox or anywhere else. How do you retrieve the mail into Evolution from your server? Are you sure you don't have a search active? Please look at Help -> Contents -> Common mail questions -> I cannot see some emails ... > > Every once and a while I got a UID error message about a problem, but > it wasn't all the time. What is the error message? This sort of implies you use POP. > > I used apt to remove the package. I deleted the folders, and then > deleted the trash, rebooting the PC immediately after that. Re-installing rarely solves problems. Which folders did you delete? You need to remove all the configuration as well as the actual mails. The locations of everything is in the Help system. Do you still have the PST files? Rather than moving things from the VM can you just re-import the PST files. > > I really wanted Evolution to work. It is now the repository for all I > have done in these last thirty years, but unless there is a way to > fix what ails this program, while it allowed me to make the move off > Windows, it is now only a vault for old emails and that is not good. A possible route is to install an IMAP server on your mail server - I run Exim & Dovecot on single CPU VMs and it barely registers a load level. Then connect the Evolution on the VM to that server and copy everything on to IMAP. Then on your "real" Evolution, just set it up to use IMAP and leave it like that. Your mail will then be stored on the server and you don't need to worry about overloading. Your incoming mail server will be able to put mail directly into the IMAP server's data store - and Hey Presto! you've got a resilient setup and you can use multiple clients to get at your mail. But I will just add that your level of mail is easily handled by Evolution. There should not be any limit that you will be able to reach so long as your mail store is set to Maildir which has been the default for a long time. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designedto go?
> > [Parenthetically, the listserv is set up incorrectly. I ran listservs, > some twenty something years ago, and the settings on return mail are > backwards.] And I ran mailing lists for many years as well and this is exactly how it should be. Not everyone here are younguns who don't remember pre-web days, there's plenty of retired people with decades of experience of working in IT here. It's all moot anyway. This mailing list has, what, a week of life left in it. > > [and in a homage to days long gone - and the loss of my normal sig > file] I was going to make some snarky comment about your 70+ line / 4500+ character signature, but, TBH, there's not much point. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designed to go?
> > They basically provide a fully self-contained package containing a tool > (like Evolution) and ALL of its dependencies, as a single bundle. > These dependencies are not installed separately on your system: they > are not visible to any other program "outside" the flatpak. And the > Evolution in the flatpak doesn't use any of your system libraries, it > only uses the libraries in the flatpak. So there's no way they can > introduce dependency hell. I know this is getting way of topic, but this is primarily why I shy away from Flatpak. You download a blob of "stuff" and you have no real idea what is in that - it could be some ancient bug-ridden library that the dev has decided to use because that's what was on their system when writing it 20 years ago and they can't be bothered to update it. It's not a theoretical risk either: there's an application I use at my day job and they specifically said that the only way of running it now is to use containers because it will only work on an ancient version of Ubuntu and so they packaged all the old libraries into a container so they don't have to support modern systems. I would hope that something like Evolution is not so crass, but it always strikes me as a way for devs and maintainers to not do it properly! (And yes, I understand you run the same risk with statically compiled applications - I also don't like them.) > > And if it doesn't work, well, it's a self-contained separate bundle so > you can either just ignore it, or remove it: it doesn't interfere with > anything else on the system. That's the point. And the fact that it doesn't interact with anything makes it less integrated into your system - unless you go through a load of arcane Flatpak command line arguments to make it talk to your environment. Yes, I know it's not that difficult, probably. But it's also not always as straightforward as you are making out. > > These days even the recent RedHat Enterprise distros can do an upgrade > without reformatting the disk (finally!). Hmm, I know Fedora does quite well at it, but I don't think I would trust the RHEL major version upgrade - the whole point is that my big iron has the same enterprise version for the whole of it's physical life, it gets retired rather than upgraded! P. > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designedto go?
On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 20:01 +0800, Mike Lieberman wrote: > I used installed the 3.46.1 (by Flathub.org) version. My OS didn't like > it but it did install and the problem I was having is gone. This > version is working. I presume you understand that Flatpak versions run in a sanboxed environment? I'm not sure of the current state of the newest versions and how they interact with the host OS, but that sandboxing has caused issues in the past (although we are seeing fewer help requests about them). > > The new flathub install software center is not liked by Debian. And the > code Debian is installing is a problem. If you mean the Evolution version that Debian installs, then no, you are not correct. It is all OK. What appears to be the issue is that the backend databases that contain Evolution operational data are a newer version than your version of Evolution is expecting: as Evolution is developed, new features are added that require updates to the database schema. These updates are not backward compatible, so if you try and run an older version of Evolution after running a newer version, you will get errors and odd behaviour. So, did you run a different/newer version of Evolution before going back to using the default version for your OS? (Note that I don't know if the flatpak version uses the same data locations now - I don't use flatpak at all, so someone with more knowledge will be able to say.) Nevertheless, Milan has given you all the information you need to clean up your configuration to start anew. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Have I pushed Evolution beyond where it is designedto go?
> > > So, did you run a different/newer version of Evolution before going > > back to using the default version for your OS? (Note that I don't > > know > > if the flatpak version uses the same data locations now - I don't use > > flatpak at all, so someone with more knowledge will be able to say.) > > > I did not run a newer version prior to this. I said that clearly and I > really have no reason to lie. I was trying to solve a problem. Why lie? The logs that you sent in this message: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2022-November/msg00086.html indicate that the underlying databases are from a newer version of Evolution than you are trying to run. Lines such as: Nov 6 12:36:44 blackbox evolution[11523]: error message was: table Inbox has 30 columns but 28 values were supplied Now this could be because you have run a newer version on the machine "blackbox" before importing the data, or the data you imported is from a newer version. You say you didn't knowingly run a newer version, and I have no reason to disbelieve you, but the underlying fact, and probably the source of your issues, is that the database schema are the wrong version. Did you experiment with other distros before settling on Debian, but kept the same home directory? > > > Nevertheless, Milan has given you all the information you need to > > clean > > up your configuration to start anew. > > > > I am stuck with the flatpak version until Debian roles out the version > I need and then, I pray that once I export again, it will import > without another blow up. I honestly do not understand about the > comment, "Milan has given you all the information you need to > clean up your configuration to start anew." This message: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2022-November/msg00091.html where Milan Crha gave you detailed information on how to fix the issues. It is entirely up to you if you want to follow his instructions or stick with the Flatpak version. It may be too late anyway if you have been using the Flatpak one for a while and you are retrieving mail by POP into that version as you won't be able to export from there into the older native version. In all honesty if you are using the Flatpak version with POP the easiest route is to just stick with it. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Support for Oauth2 and Office365
On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 10:19 -0600, Anonymous Japhering via evolution- list wrote: > Evolution 3.46.1 (by Flathub.org) > > The aforementioned version doesn't support Oauth2 for connections to > Microsoft's Office365. > > As MS has cut off use of plain passwords, and none of the other methods > offered by > Evolution are supported by MS Office365 servers, I'm wondering when > Oauth2 might become > available for this use case in Evolution. > I'm using OAuth2 with O365 on Evolution 3.44.x - it's been available for a long time. Are you saying it doesn't work with the Flatpack version, or that it doesn't work with 3.46.x at all? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Support for Oauth2 and Office365
On Sat, 2022-11-19 at 22:49 -0600, Anymous Japhering via evolution-list wrote: > On 11/18/22 18:53, Michael Kenny via evolution-list wrote: > > I believe You have to use Exchange Web Services, not IMAP and the > > server address is https://outlook.office365.com/ews/exchange.asmx > > > > Once that authenticates click check for Supported Types and it will > > pull Outh2. You should get a pop up somewhere it that process to enter > > your Office 365 info. > > I'll be a little bit traitorist > > when Evolution fails, I fall back to Thunderbird, which works just > fine with Office365 using IMAP and Oauth2 Yes. OAuth2 just gives a token that you use instead of a password. The critical thing is to get a hold of that token, and Evolution, being not just an email client, goes down the route of providing a full O365 experience that most corporate people will expect (calendar, addressbook, delegate/shared accounts, meeting invites, etc. etc.); it comes with the added benefit that for people who don't work in a corporate environment, it is a perfectly acceptable email interface. If you think that Evolution should provide OAuth2 for IMAP in these cases, then file a feature request. But my experience of using both EWS and IMAP with O365 is that IMAP feels like an afterthought, a "oh I suppose we should provide some form of imap interface" type thing. I wouldn't be at all surprised if IMAP becomes a deprecated O365 interface at some point in the future, much like app passwords are. Just bite the bullet and setup EWS in Evolution. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] conversations/threads
On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 17:53 +0200, Gary Curtin wrote: > At https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_email_clients, Evolution > is marked as being able to display both conversation and threaded > views. > > While I have been able to find Group by Threads, I have not been able > to find any settings for conversations. What's a "conversation"? Surely it's just the same as "thread". If you mean grouping messages by subject, then Preferences -> Mail Prefences -> General -> "Fall back to threading messages by subject" > Is this maybe some mistake on > the wikipedia page? > Surely not. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] exchange calendar
> Well have set up from scratch with Evo for 5th time now and it is > definetely not working. Can anyone else confirm if they are using Evo > with an Exchange 365 server? Just wondering if that could be an issue. I have Evo (3.28.5) on FC28 working perfectly fine with Office365 - mail, calendars, contacts are all functioning as far as I can see. (I can see my calendar although I don't use it, and I can see a shared calendar that I do use. When composing mail addresses get autocompleted from the GAL, so presumably that works. Office365 is not my main mailer, I just need to use it because of other people.) BTW, did you allow Evolution to autoconfigure your account after you put in the email address. Sometimes that doesn't work very well if your Exchange setup is complex and/or the autoconfig information is wrong. Try manually setting up the host URL (for cloud hosted Office365 it should be https://outlook.office365.com/EWS/Exchange.asmx with the username supplied by your admins - then click on 'Fetch URL' to get your specific connection URL. Authentication type is 'NTLM'). > > During the account setup, I set up the offline address book, which I > think reads from my GAL, and it seemed to do that fine, yet when I go > to my account in Evo after setup, it cannot open any address book, > OGA, GAL anyything, same message unalbe to connect to name> backend factory for source xlong guid type number and > extension address book cannot be found. You need to run Evo from the command line to see if there are any messages printed there. If nothing shows, then run Evo with EWS debugging enabled so you can see the chatter over EWS. If you want to post some log snippets here, then do so (so long as they aren't too big) but make sure you remove any sensitive information such as passwords. > > If it isn't going to work, I would like to find out so I can stop > fretting over it and just wait until it is supported! As I said, it works fine - EWS support has actually been quite solid in Evo for a few years now and I've never had any problems either with our on-site Exchange server or when we migrated to the cloud. I have a niggling suspicion that many of the issues people have with EWS are when using Ubuntu or Mint - perhaps some compile option or library isn't quite right. There was some discussion a little while ago about Ubuntu's reluctance to move away from 3.28.1 even though there are bug fixes and enhancements and we are now on 3.28.5. Perhaps others with more experience of those distros can advise further about how you might be able to get 3.28.5. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Selecting Topics
On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 20:06 -0700, Mr. J wrote: > I'm sure I'm overlooking something, but, on my Mailing List Membership > Configuration page there's a box titled "Which topic categories would > you like to subscribe to?" Neither when I signed up initially, nor now > do I see a way to select those topic categories. The right-side small > box says: "No topics defined." > > As a result, I'm getting every message posted to the list. > > No offense to others, but please tell me how to define a topic > category. As Ralf has said, there are no "Topics" defined for the mailing list - it's not something *you* do, it's something that mailing list administrator does. I'm always reticent to tell people how they should deal with life, but in all honesty this list is not a high volume list and I'm finding it difficult to know how it could be split up into topics. Can I ask what sort of things you object to receiving and what it is you specifically signed up to this list to see? The advice that was given when digests were removed, and which I think is pertinent here, is to use Evolution's ability to filter mails into folders (right click on mailing list mail and select Create -> Filter for mailing list). It's much easier to scan through the mails that way to find those of interest, rather than having them interleaved with other mail. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Frustrating Calender Problem
On Thu, 2018-08-23 at 08:36 +, Gary Curtin wrote: > On 23/08/2018 10:29:55, "Andre Klapper" wrote: > > > There is nothing to "ignore". The user has to accept the invitation to > > import the appointment to have it displayed in their calendar. > > > > So then the users DOES want to be part of the appointment. > Yes, but the user DOESN'T want that to be communicated back to the originator. Often it is purely because the originator never bothered to untick the "Request Response" box. There is no option within Evolution to not send the response - nor any indication that a response will be sent. It's all done silently. I'm sure the more corporate orientated would say "so what, what's wrong with that". But it's not for us to second guess why someone may or may not want a response sent, it is sufficient that they don't, but they have no control over it. There is a complication in that the RSVPs are sent by the calendar server (I think, from my limited testing), not Evolution - but the fact is that to the user they interact with Evolution so it is Evolution's responsibility to take account of what the user wants. In this case it would require re-writing the iCal meeting invite to remove the RSVP request rather than just passing it blindly to the calendar server. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution 3.28.2-1: Show Deleted Messages non-functional?
On Fri, 2018-08-24 at 12:07 +0200, Svante Signell via evolution-list wrote: > Hello, > > I have a gmail account and chose to keep deleted messages visible until > expunged manually. On version 3.22.4-1 they are kept in the Inbox > folder when deleted but with version 3.28.2-1 they are immediately > moved to the [Gmail]/Trash folder. Any settings I've missed? > > Settings: > View -> Show Deleted Messages > Evolution Preferences -> Account Editor -> Special Folders -> Defaults > -> Use a Real Folder for trash. If you use a real folder for trash, then deleted messages are moved straight away and don't stay in the original folder. Untick that option and it should revert back. BUT gmail has its own ideas about something so the settings may not work the same as in other accounts. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution & Gmail not working correctly
> > Evolution seems to have updated to 3.28.1-2 > > I found older/dated, on-line references to my problem, but zero > solutions. > > seems Evolution doesn't work well with 0Auth2 authentication? > > I can change to a password and that works, for a while, > then Evolution keeps wanting to revert back to 0Auth2 and the cycle > keeps repeating. > > everything worked okay before the update. > > what should I be doing? because all the old solutions I've seen don't > apply as I've already got things set up correctly (based upon those > suggestions) There's been lots about this on the mailing list in the last few months. Try searching the archives. Basically, you need to update Evolution (and EDS) to at least 3.28.3. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution & Gmail not working correctly
> > I found a few recent threads, going month to month in the archive, and > there is nothing new there, that I haven't already tried. Configuring the accounts using Gnome online Accounts usometimes gets around the issue. But the underlying issue is that it's a fixed bug in Evolution, but the fix is for 3.28.3+ > > updating to 3.30 from what I observed trying to figure out how, You don't need to go to 3.30, in fact that might introduce other issues if your underlying Gnome system is still on 3.28 > is > more complicated than it really should be and too much of a risk vs > time at the moment; one of linux's biggest problems, IMHO. It used to > be real bad updating things, but I will admit it has gotten > tremendously better; but it seems there are a few exceptions. > It all depends on your distro. LTS or Enterprise versions tend not to majorly update things for stability. But whereas most such distros are happy to update minor versions because they are usually bug fixes, Ubuntu, for some reason, seems to stick to the same minor version - i.e. 3.28.1, whereas it should be on 3.28.5. I'm afraid your best bet is to ask on the Ubuntu forums for advise on how to get to at least 3.28.3 - there may be some repository (or whatever they call them!) or some simple way of compiling things your self. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Noob on sorting ..
> > I want to sort on 'received', which ( -> sort received ) by, works, but I > can't seem to make the first message be at the top, and last message at > bottom. Ascending and Descending seem to be based on something other than > 'received'. How to do? > There are two different columns - "Date" and "Received" - "Date" is the date on the message itself and "Received" is the date it is received. If you are interested in the received date, make sure you add that column so you can see what's happening. Sort order is also affected by threading - grouping by threads takes precedence and the sorting is effectively by the date(s) on the most recently received message in the thread. BTW, you can also change the sorting criteria by clicking in the column header - multiple clicks changes the sort order between ascending and descending. The column it is sorted on is shown by an up or down arrow in the right of the column header. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Daily Limit for Unauthenticated Use Exceeded
> Version: 3.28.1-2 > > Hi all, newbie here. First day using Evolution. The following error > came up: > > Daily Limit for Unauthenticated Use Exceeded. Continued use requires > signup. > > How do I resolve this? I have searched in the manual, but couldn't > see anything related to this. > The last time this sort of thing came up [1] it was to do with the number of errors generated by an application. The underlying issue is that each application that connects using Google APIs has to have an "application key" - it is nothing to do with the user, it's the application and is the same for all installs. There are limits on the use of the keys (to limit potential issues) and the developer can apply to have the limits on a particular key at different levels. Once those limits are exceeded, the key stops working until (usually) the next day. AFAIUI there are no limits on "normal" use, the limits are on abnormal situations. The situation previously in [1] was that Evolution (calendar I think, possible tasks) was doing something wrong and the key stopped working after about 10:00GMT. This time it seems if you (possibly other people as well) are using the key for unauthenticated access to a calendar - possibly a shared calendar? - and that is bumping up against a limit. If it's a shared calendar you don't have write permissions for, then should you be using a "On the Web" type of access rather than explicitly a Google Calendar. (And I'm not a dev, my limited knowledge is gleaned by reading things on here and on the web. I may be completely wrong!!) P. [1] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2017-October/msg00117.html ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] "On This Computer" doesn't show any emails???
On Wed, 2018-09-12 at 16:56 -0700, Stephen Elliott via evolution-list wrote: > I’m new to Evolution. Err, welcome I think. In future (it doesn't particularly matter here), you need to say what version of Evolution you are using when asking for help here - things change, sometimes rapidly, between versions. > Shouldn’t the “On This Computer” folders group and show all INBOX > emails from all accounts, and the same for DRAFTS, SENT, etc? > Depends on what sort of accounts are configured. But in general, anything remote (like IMAP, Google, EWS, etc.) are remote and not "On This Computer". Anything that is stored locally, such as POP downloaded messages, are actually in the Evolution data store so are "On This Computer" and so are displayed there. Basically "On This Computer" means managed by Evolution and held in Evolution's own data stores. (A local mbox folder, for instance, is outside of Evolution's control so not displayed under "On This Computer".) If you want to see all the mails in all your Inboxes in one place then you need to setup a search folder to do it. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Unable to enter data for spouse in Personal Information Tab
On Sat, 2018-09-15 at 17:22 -0500, C Thomas Watts via evolution-list wrote: > I have recently installed Evolution 3.28.1-2. When entering or > editing a contact, under the Personal Information Tab under the Sub > Heading of Miscellaneous, there is a box labeled: Spouse. When I > click on it, it does get an orange parameter but I cannot enter > anything in that box. When I right click the sub menu (Cut, Copy, > Paste, Delete etc). is completely grayed out. I do have Birthday and > Anniversary dates in their respective locations. > This is is from google gmail.com contacts It does this with a > contact that was synced or a newly created contact from within > evolution. > OK. If you could add a "Spouse" to the Evolution contact information, where would you expect that to appear in Google Contacts listing? To put it another way: if you go on the web and fill in a contact listing in Google, which box would you put that "Spouse" information in to so that it appears in the right place in Evolution? (And adding a "Custom..." box in Google doesn't work because it's not part of the schema used for the contact information.) P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Calendar "List" view
> > Is it possible to have more than the current month's events displayed in > the "List" view? > > v3.22.6 (Debian Stable) Don't know about that version, but on 3.28.5 the content of the list reflects the highlighted region of the calendar in the bottom left I don't think you can display more than than a month(ish) at a time, but the display is not restricted to just the current month. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution & Gmail not working correctly
On Sat, 2018-09-29 at 21:27 -0600, coreefdiver via evolution-list wrote: > still not working > > I set it to PW email works for a day (~) then it reverts back to > complaining about not able to use 0Auth2 > > > I have the latest, right (?) > > 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 Yes, and make sure the other evolution components such as evolution- data-server are also on that version (and that they are in use). Out of interest, why not just use OAuth2 for email? Other components of gmail, such as addressbook and calendar, already require the use of OAuth2 and I can see the mail component also going that way before long. (BTW, if you are using the addressbook, that might be why it keeps reverting back.) P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Hyphens (changed!)
> > Would also be nice if there was a checkbox as to whether "--" should > be before signature or not. Why would you not want to have it there? It's part of a standard (RFC3676 para 4.3 if you are interested) and Evolution at least tries to be standards compliant. It's not just decoration, it's there for a reason and has a purpose. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Unicode / UTF-8 in Headers
On Wed, 2018-10-03 at 17:41 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2018-10-03 at 09:21 +0100, Neil Romig wrote: > > Subject: Thinking of the US? 🌍 Choose UA and AA flights ✈️ > > > > Where the globe and the aircraft are Unicode characters U+1F30D and > > U+1F6EA. > > Hi, > I tried with the message you sent me and both when I see it as part of > the attachment and when I import it as a separate message, it is shown > properly here (see attached screenshot). Just a thought, could it be anything to do with the locale of the machine (since both Evo and TB are having problems). Neil - if you just execute 'locale' in a terminal what does it say? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] some info please
On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 14:14 +0100, Richard Bown wrote: > I'll probably get told off for asking, but it does need someone with a > knowledge of evo to answer. > I getting some threatening spam , Is it along the lines of "we've hacked into your camera and got the pictures. Pay us or we'll make them public." If so, ignore it. > the last part of the header looks like this:- > > Date: 4 Oct 2018 17:43:38 +0200 (04/10/18 16:43:38) > From: rich...@g8jvm.com > X-Priority: 3 > Message-Id: <666322984.201810041...@g8jvm.com> > To: toeakveir > Subject: [SPAM] Account Issue > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="cp-850" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-Spam-Prev-Subject: Account Issue > X-Evolution-Source: 1455038713.12053.2@richard-Inspiron-N5030 > > Now that last line after the @ is actually the linux name of this > laptop > Is the number before it the index of the received mail or the index of > the sent mail. Neither. It's the internal account UUID of where the mail is stored. It's never exposed to the outside world and is only present when you view the mail in Evolution. That exact same string will be present in all emails on that account. If you look in ~/.cache/evolution/mail you will see the same strings. > Looking at sent mails that format is used on outgoing mail, is it also > used on incoming as well.? > I'm trying to determine if who ever is spoofing my email address has > got the computer name from mail I've sent to someone or a list, or from > this laptop with malware, but I haven't found anything. > Hence asking those with an expert knowledge of how evolution handle > mail. As I said, neither. It's an internal identifier added by Evolution - it's not even stored in the cached email, it's added by Evolution on the fly as it displays the mail. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Failed to refresh folder "Inbox_problem"
On Sun, 2018-10-14 at 14:12 -0600, Travis A via evolution-list wrote: > Need a bit of help. Running evolution 3.18.5.2 on linux to try and have it > replace Thunderbird > but keep getting this error: > > > > > The reported error was "Error fetching message info: unknown body response". > I don't see any error logs or debug features to better find out the > issue. Can someone please point me in the right direction? > Help -> contents -> Tacking down Problems Although I'm not sure if 3.18 had that section as it's quite old now (current version is 3.28.5). You could also try looking at https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Debugging If you need us to help, then you need to tell us what sort of mail account it is (IMAP, EWS, POP?) - the debugging process is different but you could start by running Evolution from the command line and see if there are any pertinent errors reported. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Messages sorting in message list
> Of course I know how it works basically. But this applies the sorting > also to messages *inside* the thread. I don't want it so. I want to get > messages of a thread ordered by date/ascending, since there could be > replies to oders branches of a thread that come first (and It's simpler > for reading to have them displayed on top). > As far as I can see in my version (3.28.5) if you sort by date descending (i.e. most recent at top) the threads are sorted internally by date ascending (i.e. most recent at bottom). Is that not what you want? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] IMPAX RECEIVING PROBLEMS
> It appears that Evolution 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 can handle only one > (1) IMPAX account. Adding a second IMPAX account (for example, a > cpanel e-mail account at GoDaddy) causes Evolution to "lock up". As others have said, Evolution can cope with many IMAP accounts - I have 8 on the machine I'm currently using. But having a single slow or dodgy provider can cause "issues". One thing that occasionally happens is that the provider doesn't like multiple simultaneous connections - in the IMAP account receiving options there's an option to change the number of concurrent connections, set it to '1' to see if it improves things. > Also, when you do a Send/Receive Receive All, the normal Inbox -- > Evolution is obscured by a window showing the status of each e-mail > account receiving e-mail. If one of these accounts is slow, you > cannot use Evolution. If you try to cancel the offending account, > nothing happens. The only way to recover is to kill Evolution. It needs a bit of patience sometimes - if it's slow, it's going to be slow terminating the connection, especially if it is dealing with large messages: it needs to cleanly finish what it's doing before closing otherwise it could end up confused about what has or has not been downloaded. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Deleting Messages
> > When set to true, the message marked as deleted/junk in the dedicated > > window will not move to the next/previous message, but will close the > > window instead. This option is available since 3.30: > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=794832 > > > > This is the behaviour I was expecting. But with browser-close-on- > delete-or-junk set to true or false the window stays open, and loads > the previous message. > > Forgot to mention in first post: > Evolution version 3.28.5-0, This is the version provvided from the > repository for my ubuntu 18.04 (actually I'm using Pop_OS! 18.04.) > That's why it doesn't work - as Milan said, it only works for 3.30+ P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Fatal TLS Alert
On Sat, 2018-11-03 at 21:13 -0400, Iain McVey via evolution-list wrote: > I just upgraded to Ubuntu 18.10 (Pop_OS! 18.10) so I now have Evolution > version 3.30.1-1 build1 > > I am getting the following error when I try connecting to my IMAP work > email account: > > > The reported error was “Failed to get capabilities: Peer sent fatal > > TLS alert: Illegal parameter”. > > > > I tried changing between TLS and STARTTLS, and connecting via port 143 > (this is the one suggested in the IMAP server setup page) and also 993 > > these settings worked before the upgrade to 18.10. And still work on > the gmail client on my phone. > > I tried setting up the same account on geary, and claws. Geary didn't > get th email, but didn't provide any useful feedback. Claws showed the > same error. Evolution (and presumably the others you mention) uses OpenSSL (I think) for the encrypted links. I suspect that it's to do with the upgrade of that rather than Evolution itself. > > When I set up this account on Thunderbird, I got a messages about the > sites certificate being from an unrecognized source, and did I want to > grant an exception. When I granted the exception, thunderbird > conencted to the server and got my mail. Thunderbird (like the other Mozilla products) are self contained so don't rely on external libraries. > > So, I am going on the assumption that the TLS problems with Evolution > might be casued by the dodgy certificate my employers email provider is > using?? > > I looked around a bit, but couldn't find any means to tell Evolution to > trust a particular certificate. Is this possible? Can you point me to > some instructions? > Evolution will ask, but I suspect that's not the underlying problem. There have been a lot of changes to what are considered to be secure cyphers recently. The old insecure cyphers have been deprecated for a while in OpenSSL. What I suspect is happening is that the group of cyphers OpenSSL will use does not overlap with the cyphers offered by your server. Specifically SSLv2 and TLSv1.0 are now considered to be vulnerable. You need to talk to your sysadmin to find out what cyphers are offered by the server - if it doesn't offer SSLv3 or TLSv1.2 or better then you are going to have problems. (I suspect that some would SSLv3 also shouldn't be used.) P. ps for the non British: s/cypher/cipher/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How do I stop evolution from duplicating sent items?
On Mon, 2018-12-31 at 22:52 +, Russell Thamm via evolution-list wrote: > When I send an email, my provider places the item in the Sent folder. > Evolution also insists in putting the item in the Sent folder. > Furthermore, Evolution always takes several minutes to do this. You can configure where sent items are saved to - probably the easiest *work around* is to change it to some local folder (i.e. under "On This Computer"). But that's a work around since you are still storing the mail. > > Can I configure this Evolution to stop duplicating sent items? No, Evolution will always store the sent mail somewhere - this is a GOOD thing. It's your ISP that's doing strange things - perhaps you should be asking how you can stop them from duplicating items. > > I'm sick of rebooting to Windows every time I want to send email. > Why on earth would you do that? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail sent from IMAPX account disappeared after message sent
On Wed, 2019-01-02 at 09:31 -0500, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > RE: 3.30.1-1build1 OS: Ubuntu 18.10 > > Within the past hour, I sent out an e-mail using one of the IMAPX > accounts on my PC. I went to find the sent mail in the Sent folder > for the e-mail account I used and the sent message was not there. I > then logged on the webmail for the account, and it was not there > either. I could not find the e-mail in any other mail account on my > PC. I used my PC to send a test e-mail to two other e-mail accounts I > can use. The test message went to the correct Sent folder on my PC > and on the webmail account. > > What do I need to do to find the text of the missing e-mail? > Was the mail actually sent? (i.e. did the recipient get it?) If not, is it still in your Outbox (under "On This Computer")? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail sent from IMAPX account disappeared after message sent
On Wed, 2019-01-02 at 20:35 -0500, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > On Wed, 2019-01-02 at 23:15 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2019-01-02 at 13:03 -0500, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > > > On Wed, 2019-01-02 at 18:12 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2019-01-02 at 10:19 -0500, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2019-01-02 at 15:06 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 2019-01-02 at 09:31 -0500, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > > > > > > > RE: 3.30.1-1build1 OS: Ubuntu 18.10 > > > > > > > Within the past hour, I sent out an e-mail using one of the > > > > > > > IMAPXaccounts on my PC. I went to find the sent mail in the Sent > > > > > > > folderfor the e-mail account I used and the sent message was not > > > > > > > there. > > > > > > > Ithen logged on the webmail for the account, and it was not > > > > > > > thereeither. > > > > > > > I could not find the e-mail in any other mail account on myPC. I > > > > > > > used my > > > > > > > PC to send a test e-mail to two other e-mail accounts Ican use. > > > > > > > The test > > > > > > > message went to the correct Sent folder on my PCand on the webmail > > > > > > > account. > > > > > > > What do I need to do to find the text of the missing e-mail? > > > > > > > > > > > > Was the mail actually sent? (i.e. did the recipient get it?) > > > > > > If not, is it still in your Outbox (under "On This Computer")? > > > > > > P.Thank you. I have checked the general outbox, sent, and > > > > > > draftsfolders. Message was not in those folders. > > > > > > > > John: Your threading level is broken in the last two lines. ^ > > > > If you do not have filters for outgoing email defined [1], then > > > > maybethat > > > > message got lost and there is a bug somewhere. If you can identify > > > > reproducible steps and this happens more often toyou, a bug report > > > > would be > > > > welcome. > > > > andre > > > > [1] > > > > https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-filters.html > > > > id="-x-evo-selection-start-marker"> > > > > The original e-mail came in on 26/12 to the IMAPX with GoDaddy. I > > > > forwarded > > > > the message using my IMAPX account with ARVIXE. I am going to try the > > > > same > > > > procedure and see what happens. > > > > As Andre said, something is broken in your reply quoting. Please try to > > fix this as it makes following the thread more difficult than > > necessary. > > > > poc > > > > ___ > > evolution-list mailing list > > evolution-list@gnome.org > > > > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > > > > Please let me know correct choice for "Reply style" and Forward Style" > It's not the "Style" that's at issue - the problem is that your replies are at the same nesting/quote level as the person you are replying to. If you look at the text directly above, the text that Patrick wrote has two '>' in front of it, and so has the text you wrote. It makes it much more difficult to work out what it is you actually typed. In my reply your text should only have one '>' in front of it. If you are using HTML (bleurghh) then you can see in your reply to Patrick on the list that there is a single line in front of your text the same as Patrick's text has. This single line is the equivalent of the '>' quote indicator. In other words *your* reply looks like it's actually part of some one else's quoted email. When you start typing your reply you should make sure there is no '>' or blue line to the left of where you are typing - possibly get into the habit of removing superfluous content (such as other people's signatures and unnecessary text) and position your cursor on a completely blank line (above your own signature, if any). It's easier to deal with if you don't use HTML formatted emails. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail sent from IMAPX account disappeared after message sent
> >
> > This is with Plain Text and Quote reply set. Back to the main question.
> > The
> > default email was used to send the email that did not make it to the Sent
> > folder. J
>
You need to run evolution from the command line to see if there are any
errors. Do you have a quota on your email? Is it possible you are
close to that?
If you don't see anything when running it in a terminal, then you
should run it with IMAP debugging enabled - something like
CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io evolution >& evo.log
This will produce a lot of output in the evo.log file but what you are
looking for is when the message is saved to the "Sent" folder. (Or
whatever the folder is called in your config.) You will not see the
message being sent because that's an SMTP function, not IMAP.
I just did it on my system and the sequence after the message is sent
is something like (I've removed some info):
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A00152 SELECT Sent (QRESYNC (1275048780 1668 1:5804
(1,3618,5076
,5562,5724,5778,5796 1,3618,5076,5562,5724,5778,5796)))'
[imapx:A] I/O: '* OK [CLOSED] Previous mailbox closed.
* FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft receipt-handled)
* OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft
receipt-handled \
*)] Flags permitted.
* 5804 EXISTS
* 0 RECENT
* OK [UIDVALIDITY 1275048780] UIDs valid
* OK [UIDNEXT 5805] Predicted next UID
* OK [HIGHESTMODSEQ 1668] Highest
A00152 OK [READ-WRITE] Select completed (0.002 + 0.000 + 0.001 secs).'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A00153 APPEND Sent (\SEEN) "03-Jan-2019 21:42:10 +"
{533+}'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'Message-ID: x
.
. message body
.
.'
[imapx:A] I/O: ''
[imapx:A] I/O: '* 5805 EXISTS
* 1 RECENT
* OK [HIGHESTMODSEQ 1669] Highest
A00153 OK [APPENDUID 1275048780 5805] Append completed (0.178 + 0.000 +
0.177 secs).'
The important thing is that the Append completes successfully.
BTW The log file will contain sensitive information (such as message
bodies and email addresses). If you want help interpreting the log,
then you can copy *SMALL* relevant bits here, but please make sure you
sanitise any personal information.
P.
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] X-evolution-account setting
On Wed, 2019-01-09 at 10:48 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2019-01-08 at 16:04 -0800, Van Snyder via evolution-list wrote:
> > My outgoing mail isn't sent directly from my own computer. It's sent
> > from an smtp server. But the X-evolution-account setting is my own
> > computer. That is apparently interfering with some setting in the smtp
> > server. I get messages like this:
> >
> > : host aspmx.l.google.com[74.125.195.26] said: 550-5.7.1
> > Unauthenticated email from jpl.nasa.gov is not accepted due to 550-5.7.1
> > domain's DMARC policy. Please contact the administrator of 550-5.7.1
> > jpl.nasa.gov domain if this was a legitimate mail. Please visit
> > 550-5.7.1
> > https://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 to learn about the 550
> > 5.7.1
> > DMARC initiative. cd2si22321609plb.39 - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA
> > command)
> >
> > My IT service guys -- the guys supposedly knowledgeable about (maybe
> > even administrators for) the smtp server, insist it's because the
> > X-evolution-accunt setting is my own computer, not the domain name for
> > the smtp server.
It's nothing to do with the X-evolution-account header - it means that
you have sent mail through your SMTP server without any obvious
authentication. Do you have to provide a username & password for SMTP?
> >
> > I looked through all the settings for my mail account and didn't see any
> > mention of my own computer, or X-evolution settings.
> >
> > So I did the following:
> >
> > # foreach f ( ~/.??* )
> > # find $f -type f -exec grep -il x-evolution-account {} \;
> > # end
> >
> > The only files it found were in .cache/mozilla, .mozilla/firefox, and
> > files that are mail messages under .evolution.save and .local/share.
> >
> > Nothing in those files looked like settings.
> >
> > How can I cause the X-evolution-account setting to be the domain for my
> > smtp server, not my own computer?
The X-Evolution-* headers are not exposed to the outside world -
certainly not on recent versions. Some (perhaps all?) of the X-
Evolution-* headers don't even really exist, they are inserted by
Evolution when the mail is displayed and are not present in the stored
emails.
> >
> > Or does the above problem arise from some other cause?
Almost certainly. I send mail through various SMTP servers and never
had problems with getting it through to Gmail.
>
>
> I also note that your version of Evo appears to be really ancient
> (assuming it's the one indicated by the Mailer header. The 2.x series
> was discontinued a long time ago. This may or may not be relevant.
>
2.32.3 is the version in RHEL6/CentOS6/SL6 - it's a supported
enterprise OS and is maintained by Redhat. It is currently on version
37 of 2.32.3. Everyone who uses RH and its clones are painfully aware
of the fact its old, but that's the hazard of using enterprise OS's.
P.
___
evolution-list mailing list
evolution-list@gnome.org
To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ...
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] [OT / Meta] Evolution list as source of spam
Well, sort of a source of spam. At times I've mentioned that I seem to see an increase in spam when I post to the evo list - mostly it's subjective and others have not seen it and I'm certainly willing to accept it is coincidental. However, recently I've seen lots of failed delivery attempts on my mail server. Nothing new about that, it's a regular occurrence. But these failed addresses are message IDs that have, obviously, been harvested from somewhere. Specifically, I'm getting log messages of the type: 2019-01-14 20:57:31 H=(mail.rentautos.eu) [85.14.240.55] F= rejected RCPT <1421662613.17426.6.ca...@biggs.org.uk>: Unknown user (I don't think there's anything there that needs to be redacted! The hosts and From addresses change frequently.) Every single one of those message-ID type addresses are from mails I have sent to the Evolution mailing list. They are from a while ago - 2015 to be precise - but still, someone is obviously harvesting anything that even vaguely looks like an email address from an evo mailing list archive somewhere. I know there's absolutely nothing anyone can do about it, and these things are just noise in my logs, it's just interesting that it is evidence that someone/something has been harvesting the list and no doubt our real addresses have got themselves on a list somewhere. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Displaying Attachments
On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 20:43 +, Norman Lambert wrote: > I run Evolution 3.30 on Manjaro-KDE. If I detach a PDF file from a > mail into the directory "email attachments", it opens with Okular, my > standard reader for PDF. However if I open the PDF file dieewwxt from > Evolution it ioewens with LibreOffice Draw. Libre ffice is my standard > Office Suite for all 5text files othhre than PDF. Is there some way > tghat I can persuade Evolution to open PDF files with Okular, please? > What does xdg-mime query default application/pdf say? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Displaying Attachments
** Please reply directly to the list, and not to me personally. On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 23:52 +, Norman Lambert wrote: > Dear Pete > Thank you for your interest in this minor problem. The result you want > is > > $ xdg-mime query default application/pdf > okularApplication_pdf.desktop, > That's strange 'cos that is what I understand Evolution to use to determine the application used to open the attachments. Indeed I've just tried it on my system and changing the XDG file association changes the application used to open the attachment. Perhaps others who actually know the code would care to comment! There is also a lengthy discussion on it in the archives - see the thread starting at: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2017-May/msg00135.html Ultimately you could try running nautilus (the Gnome file handler), right click on a .pdf file, select Properties and from there change the default handler. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Displaying Attachments
> Hi, > I think the problem with xdg-mime is that it's a crossroad for > different desktop environments. When you run it under GNOME, then it > runs GNOME-specific tool. When you run it under KDE, then it runs KDE- > specific tool. And so on. > > Evolution uses glib for this and relies on it. Instead of xdg-mime, try > `gio mime` (there's a space, not a dash). Eventually run xdg-mime like > it being run under GNOME: > >$ XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=GNOME xdg-mime query default application/pdf > > which should use the gio, gvfs or gnomevfs (in this order, whichever is > found first) utility in the background. > I thought the whole point of using XDG in this sort of situation was that it is desktop agnostic - so for the OP using KDE it would do the right thing! Application handlers seems to be quite a common question at times with Evolution - what is the definitive way of setting the default that is used if you aren't using Gnome as your desktop. I know it has been said in the past that it is abstracted to the desktop and nothing to do with Evolution per se - but since Evolution is clearly relying on the Gnome configuration and not the actual desktop config, it may be useful to explicitly state what to do. Would something like gio mime application/pdf okularApplication_pdf.desktop work? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Display order of emails
On Tue, 2019-02-19 at 13:29 +, Norman Lambert via evolution-list wrote: > I make use of filters to separate my incoming mail into broad subject > headings. The standard method of ordering emails within folders seems > to be earliest to latest. I prefer the other way round, latest first, > which can be done easily by altering the direction of the arrow in the > "Date" column. However, for one folder only I wish to display the > emails in reverse direction, earliest first. Is there a way to do > that, please? (Evolution 3.30 on Manjaro) > Yes, change the View to Custom View and then just click on the top bar as usual, it won't change the other folders. You can do a lot with views and the view associated with each folder is stored locally so it isn't lost. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Re: evolution
> > the opensuse forum has no idea, they told me that it is my own fault, > > but dont help > That's nice. Can I suggest you try creating a new Linux user with a clean set of default settings. If Evolution doesn't crash on startup, then it's something to do with your individual settings. Also, you never really answered Milan's question - if you start Evolution from a terminal, are there any error messages shown? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Hyperlinks
On Sat, 2019-02-23 at 07:59 +1100, Bradley G Ward via evolution-list wrote: > Hi everybody, > I am hoping that someone can help with how to enable my browser to link > to hyperlinks within emails in evolution. I have had a look in the > help and the net without an obviously solution. Can someone point me to > where I might find the answer to this? > > If it is in an obvious place I apologise. But I just can't find it. > Help -> Contents -> Common Other Questions and Problems -> Opening links in and from the web browser P. ps and if you want some more detailed help then you need to give us some more information like the version of Evolution you are using and, probably relevant in this case, the desktop environment you use. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] No duplicate messages found.
> We use outlook.office365.com as our mail server here at work. I am > running Evolution 3.28.5 (3.28.5-2.el7) on my laptop under CentOS. > Sending an email from my laptop results in a copy in my local Sent > folder and one in the remote Outlook sent folder. I also use an > Android for mobile Outlook mail. When I move the remote Outlook sent > folder contents to my laptop local sent folder, sent messages are > clearly shown duplicated. Ctrl-A and "Remove Duplicate Messages" > results in the following: > > Folder “michael.duv...@concurrent-rt.com : Sent Items” doesn’t > contain any duplicate message. > > Please advise. > I think the issue here is "what makes a message a duplicate". I suspect, although I don't know without examining the code, that a duplicate is determined by the Message-ID header. Have a look at the source of the messages and you'll be able to see if the Message-IDs are identical. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Stripping big attachments
On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 06:31 -0800, Jeff wrote: > Thank you for your response. That's what I was looking for - didn't > think to look in the right-click dropdown menu. > It's in the top 'Message' menu as well. Where were you expecting it to be? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Stripping big attachments
On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 06:51 -0800, Jeff wrote: > Where it says "SaveAs" to the right of the attachment at the bottom of > the email, I was expecting a dropdown with options such as: "Detach", > "Detach and Delete", "Save As". As you say, anywhere will work, but it's always good to get insights into what people are expecting where. If you want, file it as an RFE. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Archive function
> Can anybody tell me how to utilise the button on the top tool bar that > says"Move selected messages to the archive folder for the account"? I > do not have an archive in my folder list by default, creating one does > not make this function usable. Have you set the Archive folder in the account configuration - you just said you created one. You set it in Edit -> Preferences -> Mail Accounts -> (select account) -> Edit -> Defaults P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Dealing with huge imap accounts / best practise?
> Hm, I wish I could avoid caches -- please help explaining the > following behaviour, though: > > - Create a fresh IMAP account, local sync disabled (20.000+ emails > on the server, a lot of subfolders) > - Use another mail client to move an email into a subdirectory of > that same IMAP account; in my case that mail was flagged read > - In Evolution, search that mail from the top folder incl. all > subfolders, by entering the unique subject > - BTW: Indeed, the status line displays something like server based > search... nice > - Wait until all processes finish (10 minutes here) > > Result: Mail not found. > > - Try Send / Receive messages > - This took 30 minutes > - Search repeated as above > > Result: Mail not found. > > When I manually open the subfolder with that mail once, and then > restart the search from the top folder it gets found. > > What is happening here? > You say the status line says that it's a server based search - then surely it is the server, not evolution, that is the issue? Out of interest, those search times and send/receive look to be excessive. 20k mails is not big - I have 100+k in a single folder; I know the number of folders is important, but I have a fair few and I can delete the cache folder and Evo will rebuild the message list in a few minutes. Are you on a particularly slow connection? Is the server underpowered? Do you have any control over the server? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Dealing with huge imap accounts / best practise?
> Oh, I am sorry. I just put the string "unique-search-subject1" into > the search bar, that's all. The mail to be found (and saved into one > of the subfolders previously by another mail client) had that exact > string as subject. The current problem is: That mail is found only > either when local caching is enabled (huge cache though) or the > subfolder with that mail in it is previously once clicked, thus > somehow cached I guess. > So you use dovecot. The dovecot search plugin info says this: By default the FTS indexes are updated only while searching, so neither the LDA nor an IMAP APPEND command updates the indexes immediately. (https://wiki2.dovecot.org/Plugins/FTS) So it certainly seems that just moving things around doesn't update the dovecot index (but yes, doing the search should). But there are lots of options for the dovecot searching and indexing that you might like to look at - it might even be that the FTS plugin isn't turned on. As Milan said, use the Evolution debugging to see what the imap chatter is - that will give you more insight into what's going on. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What does this error message mean?
> I am using Evolution 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 on a Lubuntu machine. It > has been working fine for a few weeks. My (imap) email accounts are > hosted on a commercial server and I have no problems with them on > other clients (Thunderbird or Sylpheed) or on webmail. > > I have twice had emails fail to send from Evolution over the last few > days. I get a window come up saying the following. > > An error occurred while sending. How do you want to proceed? > > The reported error was “RCPT TO <**@*.com> failed: This > domain is not hosted here”. > That's not an Evolution error per se. Evolution is reporting what the SMTP server reports back. This sort of error is because you are trying to send email through a server to a different domain and it is not allowing you to (it only accepts email for domains that are hosted on the server). Check that your SMTP server & port in the Evolution configuration is correct. SMTP servers should only allow relaying if you are logged in - so make sure the SMTP authentication is turned on and correctly configured. If other mail clients are OK, then check the Evolution config against those. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Problems with evo: Error writing data to TLS socket: The specified session has been invalidated for some reason.
> > > BTW: I've chosen to authenticate with password but no request for it > pops up, I wonder why? Probably because it never gets that far. Is there any particular reason why you choose to use password auth with gmail? It works considerably better with OAuth2. If you really must use password auth, have you setup gmail to allow "insecure logins" (google's words, not mine). P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Problems with evo: Error writing data to TLS socket: The specified session has been invalidated for some reason.
> [imapx:*] Failed to open a new connection, while having 0 opened, with error: > Error reading data from TLS socket: The specified session has been > invalidated for some reason.; will limit connections: no > Have you done any searches on that error? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Error+reading+data+from+TLS+socket%3A+The+specified+session+has+been+invalidated+for+some+reason It is specifically not an Evolution error, it's something that is returned by GnuTLS when, presumably, the session connection doesn't work. Looking at the various solutions for *other applications* it is most often to do with bad certificates. The fact that it's still an issue when you "downgrade" Evolution shows that it's something to do with your environment and nothing to do with Evolution. Lots and lots of people use Gmail with Evolution without any issues. (BTW, downgrading Evolution is a dangerous thing to do - there are occasionally updates to the storage locations and formats that make things not backward compatible.) Milan gave you some gnutls-cli commands to try. All you said was that they worked, could you check again that the certificate chain is sensible - there are probably two certificates - the "Google Internet Authority" one and a Globalsign trusted certificate. Since the Google certificate is properly signed, Evolution shouldn't need to care about it, but just in case look in the Evo certificate cache (Edit -> Preferences -> Certificates -> Mail). If there are any Google, gmail, googlemail certificates in there you should probably delete them. Finally, if all else fails, create a new Linux user account and try and configure Evolution there so you start with a clean configuration. That will tell you if the underlying problem is with your machine/network or with the account config. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] search emails on (IMAP) server
> > with Evolution 3.32.1, is it possible to run search queries on an IMAP server? > If users have a few thousand emails, downloading them all for a local search > is not really feasible. > If your IMAP server advertises that it supports server side search, then Evolution will use it. I recently turned on indexing for my Dovecot server and that resulted in an almost instantaneous return of search results on folders of over 100k messages. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] search emails on (IMAP) server
> Thanks Pete. > Looking at the process stats of my email server, you don't seem to lie. :) I may not lie, but there's more to it. It depends on what sort of search you are doing. If Evo can do the search locally (like searching for Subject or Address - i.e. fields it downloads automatically) then it will do. It is only for searches such as "Message Contains" or "Body Contains" that it uses server side. And I must say as well that I'm not a developer and I don't magically know these things. This was discussed on the mailing list just a month ago in this thread: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2019-March/msg9.html P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution, VPNs and Google
> > What's the best practice for using Evolution across a VPN with GMail > ? > > It seems that every time I'm on a VPN either incoming, outgoing or > both operations fail. The VPN is setup at a system level - Evolution knows nothing about it. The only issues I ever get are if I start the VPN while Evolution is connected - presumably that's because the connections are persistent (i.e. you don't login everytime the mail is refreshed) and the packets get confused where they are supposed to go. I tend to get in to the habit putting Evolution offline before starting the VPN. > Occaisionally, I'll get > a Google notice that it blocked an attempted access, but it doesn't > happen consistently. Is it a corporate VPN or one of the internet free ones - it may be that Google has blacklisted known sources of problems (like one of the throw-away VPN sites). > > Is this one of the cases, where configure Oauth2 would be of benefit? > I doubt it - I'm no expert on OAuth2, but AFAIUI it's just a different mechanism for authentication (using a token rather than a password), other than that the connection just uses IMAP (or what Google calls IMAP). P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] lost local folders when migrating data
> > After I gave permission for the migration I was away from the computer > for several hours. During that time there was a short power failure > which caused the computer to reboot. > I can imagine that if that occurred during the migration process it might cause an issue and leave the Evolution local files in a confused state. Perhaps you could try restoring the original files from backup to a new *Linux* account and allow Evolution to upgrade those files to make sure it works. If it does then it might be worth while removing the Evolution data and config and transferring the info from the correctly upgraded version (using the backup/restore function in Evolution). P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution, VPNs and Google
> At this point, I'm stumped. I'm looking at the whole picture, as there > are lots of people using VPNs (ExpressVPN, NordVPN, ProtonVPN) around > the world, easy to find and converse with. The harder part is finding > folks running Evolution on a specific VPN. > When you run Evolution from the command line, do you see any errors? How about if you run Evolution with SMTP debugging turned on? When you have the VPN turned on can you connect to smtp.googlemail.com from the command line using openssl s_client -connect smtp.googlemail.com:465 after some certificate dumps it should come up with something like 220 smtp.googlemail.com ESMTP xxx - gsmtp this should at least narrow down where the actual issue is. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] POP address not displaying inbox
On Sat, 2019-03-23 at 14:19 -0500, ceidleigh via evolution-list wrote: > Just started using Evolution. I have more than one email address most of > which are imap (they all have an inbox). I have entered 4 POP email > accounts. The POP email does work as far as receiving and sending an email > but no individual inbox is displayed for any of the 4 addresses. They all > show up in the inbox for on this computer only. That is correct. POP downloads email to your computer so the mail is only 'on this computer'; IMAP mail is stored remotely. > What do I do to fix this? > It is not wrong, so there is nothing to "fix". If, however, you would prefer to keep the mail from each source separate, then use filters to move the mail around after it has been retrieved. I would also say that the "fix" is to not use POP unless you really, really have to. It's an old protocol that is showing its age. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Gnome Evolution Archive function
Please, could you always say which version of Evolution you are using - things like this do change over time. It would also be helpful in this case that we knew what sort of account you are using. > "On This Computer" and at my email address seem to conflict. Is there > a way to archive to a local folder on my computer? Edit -> Preferences -> Mail Preferences is where you set the default archive folder for the "On This Computer" folders. You can set the folder to be anything you want (by clicking in the grey box and selecting another folder). For other accounts you can set the archive folder by going Edit -> Preferences -> Mail Accounts -> select account -> Edit -> Defaults You can also set the archive folder on a per folder basis. > > Finally, even with things set up this way... nothing seems to happen > if I set up a mail folder to archive messages > 3 days old. Messages > older than 3 days just keep smiling up at me from said folder. > Make sure the archive folder is set up in all the correct places for the type of account. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Gnome Evolution Archive function
> Sorry, how incomplete of me: > 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 > Things change, bugs get fixed. Archiving is relatively knew so it's evolving. Version is important. > When I go to Preferences->Mail Preferences->Archive Mail, I only see > folders under mail accounts. (same for defaults for any given email > account, btw.) Is the "On This Computer" enabled in the account list? > > I was hoping I could archive to my local machine instead of to a > folder in my email account. That would drag the messages being > archived out of email and put them on disk locally only. I'm guessing > that's not possible, then? Of course it's possible. If enabling the local storage doesn't work - or even if it does - then you could create an account of type "Maildir- format mail directories" or "Standard unix mbox mail spool directory" (for performance I would suggest Maildir format, but it's up to you) and point it at a (empty) directory on your local machine and archive all your mail to that account - then you know where it is, it's outside the folders managed by Evolution so is transportable, and is in a known standard format. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] POP to IMAP conversion
> My wife has an Evolution mailbox configured as POP3. I want to convert > this implementation over to IMAP. Can I backup her mail via the > Evolution backup tool (1G+), wipe out that mailbox, recreate it under > the same mailbox name and address as IMAP, and import the mail from the > backup? > Will that work? > The POP mail is stored on the computer - even if you delete the POP account, the mail will still be there on the computer. So, backup the mail (for safety), delete the POP account, create the IMAP account, once that's all done and everything is happy, copy whatever mail you want from "On this computer" into the IMAP account. There's no need to remove the mailbox under "On this Computer", and if it's the Inbox, you probably shouldn't anyway as it'll just cause confusion later. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail forwarding
On Fri, 2019-05-10 at 08:57 -0400, James Finnall wrote: > The option to not show again does not function in the normal manner. > When I went to forward something it was back to where it was before. I > checked the options and the box was cleared again. So checking the box > not to show again does not remember what I selected, it actually > CHANGES what I selected for the next message because it modifies the > config and does not display again forcing plain text on all future > messages. It doesn't say "do you want to remember this setting and not ask again" it says "do you want to be asked again". > > So I am forced to respond to the dialog every time I reply or forward > an html message. Not what I desire to do. I do not want it to ask me > every time but it should NOT change my config. > Edit -> Preferences -> Composer Preferences -> "Format messages in HTML" That is where you permanently change the default format. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail forwarding
> When I checked the box, I was presented with a dialog regarding > removing the HTML codes. I didn't think it meant the message content > items though. I just thought it was formatting codes. > Plain Text is just that - plain text, no HTML, no formatting. The links to external images are HTML, so removing HTML will remove the links. Once they are removed they are lost so switching back to HTML afterwards can not restore the missing links. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What key function CTRL+J do?
On Wed, 2019-05-15 at 15:45 +0200, Dario Lesca wrote: > I mistakenly press the CTRL+J key, and my message is disappeared > > What happened to my message? > > What this key accelerator do? Message -> Mark As -> Junk (Ctrl+J) The message will be in the Junk folder or you'll be able to see it if you enable View -> Show Junk Messages Once you can see the message mark it as not junk (Message -> Mark As -> Not Junk (Shift+Ctrl+J)) and it will reappear in the correct folder. There are icons on the toolbar to do the same functions. > > I tried to search a Evolution accelerator key list on web, but I > didn't find anything ... > Help -> Contents -> Getting Started -> Shortcut keys (It happens Ctrl+J isn't in that list! I suppose it would be overly long if everything was in it.) The accelerators are also next to the function they are used for in the menus. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Spam error message
First. Don't reply to another message to the mailing list and just change the subject. That doesn't make it a new message and your message to the mailing list has been put in another thread because it still retains all the References: header > I have Evolution (3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1) installed on two pcs. It > has been running pretty much perfectly until when I now try to > forward messages I get the following message: > > DATA command failed: 5.7.1 5C1AEA603EA3B84F Message content rejected > due to suspected spam. OB703”. That is your SMTP provider rejecting your mail. > > Does anybody know what's happening here? Conversely my wife has > evolution on an Arch system without these errors so I am assuming > that its a program problem and not my ISP. > No, it's not a "program problem" - something in the messages is triggering the spam filters. Did you try googling for that error message? Did you notice that all the reports of that error message are from Telstra customers? I suspect if it's only forwarded messages, and you forward them "as attachment" and add no other content, then that's what's triggering it. I suggest you ask on the Telstra or Bigpond forums. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Spam error message
> It seems to be ok now if I pust just one character in the text area of > the forwarded email. No idea why, but, blind forwarding seems to be > the problem. Because the detection of spam works on certain rules concerning the make up of the message and each of those rules has a certain number of points that are all added together. When a message reaches a points threshold, that message is deemed to be spam. One of the rules that your SMTP provider gives a high number of points to appears to be "the content of the message is only a forwarded message without any other content". Adding a single character means that particular rule doesn't apply. (The rationale is that forwarding without added content is possibly an automated process, adding some content implies human interaction, so less likely to be spam.) > It is not my provider as suggested by someone else and I > never thought that was the issue. Why not? What else would give that message? It is definitely a rejection message from the SMTP server. If you don't believe me, run Evolution with the SMTP debugging turned on and you will be able to see where your providers SMTP server gives that error message. > I just don't know why it has started > doing this. Because they changed something. The weighting given to each spam rule is constantly being re-evaluated - for an ISP it is likely to do with complaints from customers that too much spam is getting through, so they tweak things. It may also be that some other factor has meant an additional spam score - an RBL entry somewhere possibly - that has taken your mail over the threshold. (If the threshold was, say, '5', previously your forwarded messages might have been getting a score of 4.95, a relatively minor change of 0.05 in a spam weighting will result in the mail now crossing the threshold.) > > I frequently blind forward msgs between my laptops so they are for my > info only. If you frequently do this, then you would be much better of using IMAP and keeping the mail on a server so all your devices see the same mailstore. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Segfault when opening invitation
On Tue, 2019-06-04 at 17:04 +0800, John Serink via evolution-list wrote: > Yes, just letting you know. > In that case you should probably file a bug report against that version. That's the only way of reliably bringing issues such as this to the developers attention. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Un-needed button
> I have a button on my top toolbar on my main Evolution window that > popped up out of no where... I never saw this button when I had evo > installed in KDE yet its here in XFCE... > > https://imgur.com/a/OYi98cQ It's the "Group Reply" button - to save people going to the link. > > How do I make this button go away? I don't see a way to remove it. Why do you want to the button to go away? The "Group Reply" is like "Reply All" but is intelligent enough to know about mailing lists and so on. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Un-needed button
On Mon, 2019-06-17 at 18:35 -0500, Christopher M wrote: > On Tue, 2019-06-18 at 00:25 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > How do I make this button go away? I don't see a way to remove it. > > > > Why do you want to the button to go away? The "Group Reply" is like > > "Reply All" but is intelligent enough to know about mailing lists and > > so on. > > > > P. > > > > > > __ > > Hi Pete, > Because it shows all the time not just when I click on a mailing list. > As I said the button is intelligent - if you aren't replying to a mailing list post, the button acts as "Reply-All", if you are, then it is "Reply-to-list" - because, as everyone knows, you should *not* use "Reply All" when replying to a mailing list post, you should only use "Reply To List" If you use Reply-All like you did, you send the email to both the list and to me - the mailing list software is intelligent enough to spot this and avoids sending me a copy of the message so I don't get duplicates. Consequently the message I got doesn't have any of the mailing list specific headers (because it came directly from you) and so none of the mailing list specific actions work - such as Reply-to- list and any mailing list filtering. So, please don't remove the button, use it as it is supposed to be used. It's useful. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Un-needed button
> Your reply was sent to Pete Biggs and evolution-list , so Peter Biggs > either received a duplicated message, one directly from you and a second > from the mailing list or, if he set up mailman to not send duplicates, > he does only receive your message, so the mailing list header is lost > for him. Quite. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution closes when double clicking to open an email
> Problem started after a few months of Evolution responding > erratically, primarily by occasionally freezing the computer, > requiring a hard reboot. Present problem started after replacing the > motherboard, CPU, and RAM (3GB) in suspicion that they were the > culprit. If they were then you would be seeing errors in the system logs relating to hardware, and applications other than Evolution would be affected as well. > > Next attempt was to delete the two email accounts, un-install > Evolution and all its associated files and directories including the > archives. > Re-install Evolution and set up one of the email accounts. Same > symptoms. Evolution closes when double clicking an email. Uninstalling and re-installing doesn't really help much on Linux - it will just re-fresh the executables and there are better ways to check the integrity of installed files. If you have corrupted system files, then you have more problems than just Evolution. The best test to see if it is a system/install problem or a user config problem is to create a new Linux user so that you have a clean install of all config files (for all packages) and setup Evolution in that account. > > Do you have any solutions before I completely reformat the harddrive > with a re-install Ubuntu 18.04? > Have you run Evolution from the command line? Are there any error messages printed? Are there any related messages in the system logs? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution closes when double clicking to open an email
Please don't top post. (And please don't CC me on replies to the list, it means I get a non- list version of the mail which makes things more difficult - just reply to the list only.) On Mon, 2019-07-01 at 02:33 +, lambertus wrote: > > RE advise to use gsettings reset. > Did that and the problem remains. > Used the gsetting get commands, and they returned window width=910 and > height=717. > Is it the same error message? Because the fact remains that this: > > On Sun, 2019-06-30 at 16:42 -0600, lcstruik--- via evolution-list > wrote: > > (evolution:7107): Gdk-WARNING **: 15:37:58.410: Native Windows wider > > or taller than 32767 pixels are not supported Is your problem. Evolution is trying to create a very, very wide/tall window resulting in this: > (evolution:7107): Gdk-ERROR **: 15:37:58.441: The program 'evolution' > received an X Window System error. > This probably reflects a bug in the program. > The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'. error from the Xserver. Since that didn't solve your problem have you tried running Evolution under the debugger as also detailed towards the end of this message: > > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2018-July/msg6.html > > It seems that somehow one of your default evolution shell settings has > gotten so large that it can't be used. > You will need to install the debug packages (by whatever method is necessary for your distro) in order to get a meaningful backtrace. Out of interest, when you click on a mail, does it open in a new window or in a pane in the main evolution? If it's a new window, try turning on the viewing pane (Ctrl-M). If it only occurs when Evolution is trying to open a new window then it is probably not the shell window width/height that's the issue. I presume there are other gsettings for the mail pane, but I don't know what they are called. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution closes when double clicking to open an email
> Running Evolution from the command line returns that following error: > "(evolution:3493): Gtk-WARNING **: 12:35:19.827: Failed to register > client: GDBus.Error:org.gnome.SessionManager.AlreadyRegistered: > Unable to register client" That's just a warning, I don't think it will be related to this problem. > > > Since that didn't solve your problem have you tried running Evolution > > under the debugger as also detailed towards the end of this message: > > I do not know how to run an environment variable with the executable > to create a backtrace with a particular debugger, which apparently > has to be installed. In this message: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2018-July/msg6.html The instructions are at the bottom. It says $ export GDK_SYNCHRONIZE=1 $ gdb evolution --ex "b gdk_x_error" --ex r --ex "bt" --ex "t a a bt" --ex q gdb may need to be installed, but it's the standard Gnu debugger. For there to be useful variable and procedure names in the output (rather than just memory locations) you need to have the symbol packages installed (and I think Ralf pointed you in the right direction for that on Ubuntu). But it's a moot point - you have already found out what the issue is ... > > > PS Is this the correct posting method? > I had to look up "Top Posting" > Yes. That is perfect. Thank you. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution closes when double clicking to open an email
> > Using these hints I ran the gsettings get commands for the > /mail/browser-window/ location. > height=977 > width=33766 > > then ran the reset command on those, which then returned > height = 0 > width = 0 > > Then ran Evolution and double clicked an email, which closed the program. > Ran the gsettings get commands and got: > height=977 > width=33766 > So that's your problem. Something is forcing the width to stupid values. It will not happen with the bug fix that Milan pointed you to. If the height / width is zero, then the program will choose a value for them. Can you set the width/height manually to values other than 0 so that the program uses those values - say: gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.window:/org/gnome/evolution/mail/browser-window/ width 800 gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.window:/org/gnome/evolution/mail/browser-window/ height 800 Do you now get something sensible? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution closes when double clicking to open an email
> > Ran the following from command line: > CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io evolution >& logfile That is for tracing/debugging IMAPX I/O calls - your issue is NOT with IMAP - you've said you can see the emails in the preview window, so IMAP is working fine. > and > GDK_SYNCHRONIZE=imapx:io evolution >& logfile That's not how you use that variable. I've already pointed you to the right way a couple of times: export GDK_SYNCHRONIZE=1 gdb evolution --ex "b gdk_x_error" --ex r --ex "bt" --ex "t a a bt" --ex q But again, it's not relevant. That variable just makes sure that the GDK calls are synchronous and so any error appears when the call that creates the error happens rather than at some other time. It's only really important when you are debugging so that you know the gdk_x_error break point happens at the right time. But you know what triggers the error (the "width" being set to some ludicrous value), and the trace will only tell you the same information. What is needed is to know WHY and WHERE it is being set to that value and to debug that you will need to put a trap on the correct variable to see when it changes value, but that needs a fairly decent knowledge of the source code ... P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Slow to connect (and download)
On Sat, 2019-07-06 at 13:14 +0200, Gary Curtin wrote: > Using Evolution 3.32.1-2 on Ubuntu 19.04 setup with POP3. > > If I click on Send/Receive, it can take up to a minute or more to > connect to the POP3 (pop.gmx.com port 110 setup automatically) and then > retrieving simple text messages (like from this list) take another > minute or two to download. It seemed to be a bit slower today than it > was yesterday. You may like to check with your mail provider - it is not unknown for them to throttle connections and I have feeling I've heard in the past of GMX doing that (or suspected of doing it). TBH, they may not be "throttling" or limiting the speed, what might be the issue is that they don't provide many POP processes and you have to wait for one to become available. When my work moved to O365 we were warned that although IMAP was enabled, it may not be as fast as native Exchange protocols as MS consider IMAP to be an "expensive" protocol and so limit the resources it can consume. Have you thought about using IMAP - you may get a better experience with that. > > It is not the Internet connection, because I can browse just fine, and > downloading I get more than 1mb/s. :-) I get annoyed when my broadband goes below 50Mb/s, I don't think I survive at 1 Mb/s anymore. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] validating an evolution ICS file
> Some apps of my Ubuntu mobile phone makes use of evolution backends > to store contacts and alarms (alarm app). It seems that from time to time the > ICS > file gets broken or somehow invalid (see the attachment). Do we have any > kind of ICS validator to get to know what exactly is the problem with > the file? There are plenty of ICS validators on the net (just Google for "ics validator"). They say your .ics file is valid. I would usually advise you to run evolution or the backend from the command line with debugging enabled to see what the issue is. But it's a phone. The only thing that might be an issue is that there is an audio file "attached" to the alarm which has an absolute path. I don't know if that path doesn't exist if it would be a problem. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] validating an evolution ICS file
On Sun, 2019-07-07 at 14:06 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > On Sun, 2019-07-07 at 12:45 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > I would usually advise you to run evolution or the backend from the > > command line with debugging enabled to see what the issue is. But it's > > a phone. > > But it's a FLOSS phone without restrictions, right? So the phones > architecture packages with debug symbols might be available, see > Not that sort of debugging. I meant this: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Debugging sort of debugging. I don't know if command line access to the backends is possible in a phone environment (yes, I know the phones have terminals, but I don't know how containerised the packages are). P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Reduce size of backup file
> > I am trying to find the best way to copy all my Evolution settings > (accounts, signatures, view preferences, etc) from my desktop > installation of Evolution and copy to my laptop installation of > Evolution. I am using Zorin OS 15 on both computers. That means very little to most people. Please say what version of Evolution you are using - it may, or may not, be relevant. > > It appears that the best way to do this is using the backup and > restore feature. That's not what the backup/restore was meant to be used for. It may appear to work for you currently, but I have seen people come unstuck using it to "synchronise" between machines and get into a mess. I suspect that the best advise is that you use it at your own risk. One of the issues is that it is designed to be used to backup and restore as a data recovery option. In that case you want everything saved, so that's what it does. > However, the backup file is 28GB. All of my accounts are IMAP, so > there is no need to copy emails as part of this process. I'm trying > to figure out if there's a setting I can change to create a smaller > backup file. No. > > Any thoughts or advice are appreciated. Thanks! > You could try looking in the backup file to see what's taking up so much space. I have lots of IMAP accounts and folders and my backup file is 172k. Do you have the "copy folder content locally" enabled? Do you have anything in the "On This Computer" folders? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] "important" mails not reliably deleted from "important" folder
On Mon, 2019-07-22 at 13:34 +0200, Herr Oswald wrote: > Hello, > > I'm using imap with evo 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1. Is this with gmx.de? If so, then like gmail, it is sometimes a bit odd. > > Often I mark messages as "important" and have a search folder where > these messages (status is important) are shown. Now when I try to > delete one of them from inside the "important" search folder, this > often fails. > Could you clarify - when you say you delete them from inside the folder - do you want to delete the message completely or just remove it from the search folder? When you say "often fails" - fails in what way? Does nothing happen? How often does it happen? Is there something consistent about the messages which fail? Are all the "important" messages in the same source folder / account? Have you tried running Evolution from the command line? Are there any errors or warnings? Have you tried running Evolution with IMAP IO debugging turned on? If so, can you verify that the correct commands are being sent to the server? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Building the latest Evolution from the sources
> Then I tried "cmake ." and got what was to be expected (namely, > dependency errors): > > ... > -- Checking for modules 'camel-1.2>=3.32.1;libebook- > 1.2>=3.32.1;libecal-1.2>=3.32.1;libedataserver- > 1.2>=3.32.1;libedataserverui-1.2>=3.32.1;libebackend-1.2>=3.32.1' > -- Requested 'camel-1.2 >= 3.32.1' but version of camel is 3.28.5 > -- Requested 'libebook-1.2 >= 3.32.1' but version of libebook is > 3.28.5 > -- Requested 'libecal-1.2 >= 3.32.1' but version of libecal is 3.28.5 > -- Requested 'libedataserver-1.2 >= 3.32.1' but version of > libedataserver is 3.28.5 > -- Requested 'libedataserverui-1.2 >= 3.32.1' but version of > libedataserverui is 3.28.5 > -- Requested 'libebackend-1.2 >= 3.32.1' but version of libebackend > is 3.28.5 > CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-3.10/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:415 > (message): > A required package was not found > Call Stack (most recent call first): > /usr/share/cmake-3.10/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:593 > (_pkg_check_modules_internal) > CMakeLists.txt:286 (pkg_check_modules) > > Can someone tell me if is feasible to manually install new library > versions for all the dependencies of the new evolution version? You need to also build evolution-data-server - evolution and evolution- data-server go together and should (must?) be of the same version. Build e-d-s first so that evolution can find the relevant libraries. > And > what does "A required package was not found" mean? TBH I would struggle to explain it other than to say that it can't find a package that is required. > How to find out what > package has not been found? > The package(s) not found are in the text just above the error message: -- Requested 'camel-1.2 >= 3.32.1' but version of camel is 3.28.5 -- Requested 'libebook-1.2 >= 3.32.1' but version of libebook is 3.28.5 -- Requested 'libecal-1.2 >= 3.32.1' but version of libecal is 3.28.5 -- Requested 'libedataserver-1.2 >= 3.32.1' but version of libedataserver is 3.28.5 -- Requested 'libedataserverui-1.2 >= 3.32.1' but version of libedataserverui is 3.28.5 -- Requested 'libebackend-1.2 >= 3.32.1' but version of libebackend is 3.28.5 You have to realise that Evolution is not a small or simple application to build - there will be dependencies beyond e-d-s that are satisfied by Gnome libraries, and that will depend on what version of Gnome you have. Evolution is not a good place to start if you are a novice at building things. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Cannot get port numbers to stick
> > I tried setting up my mail client Evolution and when I went to put the > port numbers in I hit okay and then closed and reopened EVO and the > ports defaulted back to 143. Even though I need to be using 993. Why is > Evolution doing this? How can I fix this? > Port 993 is IMAPS, aka IMAP over SSL - if that's what you need to use, then set the encryption to that and the port number will change automatically. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mark as read in message filter
Please. Please. Always say the version of Evolution you are using - things change, bugs get fixed. On Fri, 2019-08-16 at 19:57 +0100, Mark @ StantonCentral wrote: > Is there some trick to getting this to work. > > I want to move some messages to a folder and then set them as read. > > The "Then" part of a few of my rule dialogS has "Move to folder" and > then "Set Status Read", but the second part never works. > > I tried changing the order, but that doesn't seem to do it either... > Does it work without the "Move to Folder"? I have a rule that has "Set Status Read" as the only action and that works fine. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mark as read in message filter
On Sat, 2019-08-17 at 17:22 +0100, Mark @ StantonCentral wrote: > Thanks for that Andre, > > The first link is very useful, I get a 404 with the second one. Both are also in the Evolution Help that comes with every copy of Evolution: Help->Contents (or F1) Mail Management -> Sorting and Organizing Mail -> Using Filters Common Mail Questions -> Mail Filters are not Working > > The first link points out (in effect) that "mark as read" should be > applied before "move to folder", which I didn't know. I have, however, > changed my filters to mark the message read before moving it, and they > still arrive in the new folder as unread. I know you said "Mark as Read" doesn't work on its own, and I'm sorry to press you on it, but are you sure? It certainly works for me and others. > > Not only is that not very intuitive, but it's allowing the user to do > something worthless, without warning. You can be assured that if such checks were put in place, it would take a day or so before someone complains that it's not letting them do what they want to do. > I imagine the programming to prevent making this combination available > might be ugly, but... Please feel free to file an enhancement request in git.gnome.org - and if you do, please link to it from this thread so others in the future can easily find it. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mark as read in message filter
> > > I know you said "Mark as Read" doesn't work on its own, and I'm sorry > > to press you on it, but are you sure? It certainly works for me and > > others. > > In fact it seems that some of the rules are correctly marking mail as > read, but certainly one particular one isn't. The delay in replying to > you was because I was waiting for more mail to come in to confirm or > deny my theory. OK, so "Set Status Read" *is* working, just not for that particular rule. > > The rule that definitely isn't marking messages as read has 13 > conditions, 12 matching senders one matching a recipient, and then sets > status, then moves it, then stops processing. It's doing everything > except the marking as read. That feels like a lot of conditions, do you have other filter rules with that many? I don't know if there is some limit. I don't think you've ever said what sort of account it is - IMAP, POP, EWS? Is it possible that another mail client could also be affecting the mail? Ultimately you will need to turn on the filter logging to see what Evolution is really doing. Details on how to do that are in the help or at https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-filters-not-working.html If you can't work out from that what's happening then sanitize the log to remove personal information and upload it to somewhere like pastbin so that others can have a look at it. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mark as read in message filter
> > That feels like a lot of conditions, > > A lot of people send us sales junk :-/ Sure, but there are better ways of dealing with junk than manually writing filters within Evolution for it. Both the spamfilters that Evolution uses have blacklists - in other words everything from those addresses are marked as junk. > > > do you have other filter rules > > with that many? I don't know if there is some limit. > > That's got the most. I would expect it to tell me if there's a limit, Well life isn't always what we expect. > in the same way as I'd expect it to tell me if I did something with no > result (like marking as read *after* moving into a different folder), > but it doesn't complain. I think I'd be right to be upset if there was > a limit but nothing mentioned that. Perhaps it's a bug. Perhaps no one has ever tried to have that many conditions before. Try splitting the conditions into two rules - or better, twelve rules (that's assuming the conditions are 'OR'). If it works with fewer conditions, then file a bug - silently doing the wrong thing is a bug. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Contacts Question
> Is it possible to copy contact emails to the bcc: and cc: fields in a > message compose? I see an option to send mail to the selected group, > but no clear way to send the contacts to bcc: or cc: > Click on the To:, Cc: or Bcc: button on the email itself and that will take you to the address book and from there you can add whatever contact to whichever field(s). Alternatively you can right-click on the contact email in the addressbook and select "Copy e-mail address", then in the mail message select whichever field and right click and select "Paste". P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Ports and SSL/TLS
On Sun, 2019-08-25 at 22:26 -0700, Dr Dave Mason wrote: > I am suddenly (last week or so ) Unable to use security on my imap > email account. When I set port 993 for the imap server it goes back to > 143 by itself. When I set 465 on SMTP server it also resets itself. If > I select TLS in the drop down lost for encryption, nothing works. > > If I use no security and ports 143 and 587, everything is fine. > As I said in answer to the very same question here: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2019-August/msg00077.html "Port 993 is IMAPS, aka IMAP over SSL - if that's what you need to use, then set the encryption to that and the port number will change automatically." There is no option for "TLS" (certainly not on the most recent versions), there is "STARTTLS" which uses the standard IMAP port then switches to a different port for the encryption, or there's "SSL" which uses a different port. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution not syncing with the server through IMAP
> Access has been intermittent since reconnecting through Evolution. > It started by frequently asking me to enter the email account login > information, at start up and during usage. > Then Evolution started giving me folder sync error messages. > "Failed to refresh folder "myemailusern...@isp.net:INBOX". > The reported error was "Error syncing changes:UID STORE failed". In addition to what Patrick said, that error looks like it has come from the server, not Evolution (Evolution will just be reporting what the server says). Try running Evolution from the command line, possibly with IMAP IO debugging turned on. > > The folder email lists on the server, as seen through Webmail, do not > match those in Evolution (Inbox, Sent, Trash). > If I try to delete emails in folder through Webmail, some complain > they cannot be deleted because they do not exist. > So you can see the emails in the webmail client but when you try and delete them in webmail it says they don't exist? Try clearing the cache in your browser, and if it's still a problem then it points to a problem with the mail server. Is it a big ISP or a small local company (or a personal mail server)? Can you get access to the IMAP server logs? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Ports and SSL/TLS
On Sun, 2019-09-08 at 15:18 -0700, Dr Dave Mason wrote: > Sorry, I missed your response. Thank you for getting back. > > My encryption options are "none", "starttls after connecting" or "tls > on a dedicated port". I do not have SSL on the list of options. Am I > looking at the wrong spot? I do not see "IMAP over SSL" anywhere. > Version 3.22.6 from Debian 9 repositories. > The wording changed over time. "IMAP over SSL" is the same as "TLS on dedicated port". P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] File > 'Save Address Book as vCard' is greyed out
On Mon, 2019-09-09 at 23:17 +0200, Garret Robinson via evolution-list wrote: > I want to backup my Address Bark (the entire address book). But when > I go to the setting File > 'Save Address Book as vCard' it is greyed > out and unselectable. > > Why is it greyed out? How do I get it so I can select it and backup > my address book? > What sort of address book is it? I think it's only available for local "on this computer" address books, it's certainly not available for Google or EWS ones. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Buckup & Restore command dont work
SPAM??? > > But I need to know, when I will reinstall the system and apps, did > the fresh install of Evolution recognize my "old" account ? Or have I > have to do something ? Evolution will recognise the existing account. I've upgraded my system lots of times - new hardware, new install of OS - and all I've ever done is to copy over the same home directory and Evolution has just started up with the same configuration and content as before. It knows about and recognises data from old versions of Evolution and upgrades databases and locations automagically. I haven't started with a virgin home directory for about 10 years! > > About the compressed tar file, what are the directory compressed ? It depends on your version of Evolution. In general you can find the location of the data in the builtin help Help -> Contents -> Common other questions -> Data storage locations The tar file will not contain the cache files and the configuration settings are dumped from DCONF to a file, otherwise it is just a straight compressed tar file of the data directories. > Did Evolution have all his directories in my home/ hidden > directories? Yes. (Because Evolution runs as a user process it won't be sure to have permissions to store things elsewhere.) P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Buckup & Restore command dont work
> > Actually my last backup of Evolution was around 20Gio (a little more) > is it possible that there is a limit ? No - other than any limit your OS/partition imposes. Which at the least will probably be about 2Tb. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Hotkey for links
> Would it be possible to add a hotkey such as Ctrl+L (preferred) or > Ctrl+K (yeah, I don't know - that's what Thunderbird uses) to insert > a link into an email without having to go the menu and choose 'Insert > | Link...', please? If you want to add/change a feature then the correct (only?) place to make such a request is in the Gnome Gitlab https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/ I'm fairly certain that since it would only be like 5 mins of work the maintainers would appreciate any patches you write. Also, if you are composing in HTML (which, BTW, is usually frowned upon on this list), there's a button in the menu bar just above the composer to insert a link - it's the one beside the "Insert Image" button. If you do file a feature request, please post a link in this thread so that people who search in the archives can find it (presuming there are people who search in the archives these days). P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Hotkey for links
> > In addition to what Pete already wrote, you can customize keyboard > shortcuts locally. See "Help > Contents > Customizing tool bar and menu > items" (requires the Evolution user docs to be installed locally). > It says in that that the comments in the accels file start with a comma - is that correct, or should it be semi-colon? (I was going to mention the accels file, but it didn't seem to work for me - perhaps that's because all the lines are commented out!) P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
