Re: [Evolution] Transfer Evolution data

2021-02-15 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sat, 2021-02-13 at 00:16 +0800, JPM wrote:
> On Thu, 2021-02-11 at 09:43 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > If that fails, you can cleanup the
> > Evolution data (except of GSettings/DConf):
> > https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/data-storage.html
> > and start from scratch. That requires to run
> > `evolution --force-shutdown`, thus also the background processes
> > are started with clean data.
> 
> how do I restore Evolution to a 'virgin' state? 

Hi,
I already wrote that - see above.

> I'm pretty sure 3.10 does use Maildir (in the settings it say Maildir
> next to 'On This Computer')

Good.

> but in the 'Save as' I can also choose MBOX

That's okay, the save-as is always MBOX.

> Looking in that location I see entries (3 per account) that start
> with a 15 numbers@ computer-name, some of those entries list an other
> computer-name? (my laptop computer) should I be concerned with that?

No, no need to be concerned about it.

Bye,
Milan

P.S.: By the way, you can use Reply To List (Ctrl+L in Evolution),
instead of Reply to All, at least in my case and on this list.

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Re: [Evolution] Cannot connect to Evolution with Google

2021-02-15 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sat, 2021-02-13 at 23:01 -0500, Daniel Caron via evolution-list
wrote:
> This is what I end up with, any solution here

Hi,
the error message means there is no process providing
org.freedesktop.secrets D-Bus interface. That is used to store the
password, from which I guess you received the OAuth2 token, but
evolution failed to save it, due to this error.

There is usually used GNOME keyring for this. Is gnome-keyring-daemon
installed and running on your machine?

Your KDE may not have it. There are some threads about the gnome-
keyring-daemon in the archive, even on KDE, I only do not have a good
candidate for you. You may see there some caveats with it on KDE, but
nothing unbearable, I guess. There are people using Evolution with the
GNOME keyring on KDE successfully.

Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Cannot connect to Evolution with Google

2021-02-15 Thread Robert McDonald
Response interleaved below (you'll see at the end why I said this
here):

On Mon, 2021-02-15 at 11:18 +1300, Kiwi Rider via evolution-list wrote:
> Patrick, while I agree that the form of quoting you prefer seems 
> naturally better

I agree.  That, and trimming follow-ups.

> for quite some time now the form that Daniel Caron 
> used is the most common.

I agree, with great sadness ;^) (ah, also for the days of ASCII
emoticons, not that I ever used them that often).

> Most people [top post] and 
> the few of us who normally don't are disappearing.

Except maybe in history books or old email and Usenet archives.

> For the same reason I gave up the fight against HTML in email some 20
> years back.

I remember about 20 years ago informing one person by sending them the
voluminous HTML source (a few KB worth) for the email he sent me in
which he wrote only a single short sentence, showing him all the
unnecessary stuff his email client included in HTML email just for his
one little sentence.

> A number of email clients make it harder to quote properly,
> especially 
> those on Android it seems, and probably a number of Windows clients.

This is the scariest thing for me, and what motivated me to respond to
this email (merely indulging in nostalgia wasn't enough).  I once
replied to a prospective employer who then asked me why I sent them a
blank email.  Turns out their email client had collapsed everything in
my response including and below the reply mark, which is of course
(being a diligent in-line responder) where I had put all my responses.

After that, I always top-post a salutation together with a note that my
response is below (except for this list since it is populated by in-
line non-HTML responders, except for just this time to illustrate this
point).  That's when I realized that top-posting had taken over the
email world.

Reports of methods for thwarting such email client behavior with
respect to in-line replying are welcome (this is the closest I get in
this email to relevance to the charter of this list).


-- 
Robert McDonald

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Re: [Evolution] Cannot connect to Evolution with Google

2021-02-15 Thread Daniel Caron via evolution-list

Good day Milan and group .

What I did as suggested in pages related to gnomes keyring i installed 
one from ubuntu by doing sudo apt install gnomes-keyring and it work 
partly accepting to ass my contacts but not for messages. Now I received 
a message saying 0Auth2 not found from Evo.


So I installed Thunderbird and from it , it work flawlessly. Something I 
am missing here ??


Regards



Le 2021-02-15 à 03 h 37, Milan Crha via evolution-list a écrit :

On Sat, 2021-02-13 at 23:01 -0500, Daniel Caron via evolution-list
wrote:

This is what I end up with, any solution here

Hi,
the error message means there is no process providing
org.freedesktop.secrets D-Bus interface. That is used to store the
password, from which I guess you received the OAuth2 token, but
evolution failed to save it, due to this error.

There is usually used GNOME keyring for this. Is gnome-keyring-daemon
installed and running on your machine?

Your KDE may not have it. There are some threads about the gnome-
keyring-daemon in the archive, even on KDE, I only do not have a good
candidate for you. You may see there some caveats with it on KDE, but
nothing unbearable, I guess. There are people using Evolution with the
GNOME keyring on KDE successfully.

Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Cannot connect to Evolution with Google

2021-02-15 Thread Pete Biggs
> 
> What I did as suggested in pages related to gnomes keyring i installed 
> one from ubuntu by doing sudo apt install gnomes-keyring and it work 
> partly accepting to ass my contacts but not for messages. Now I received 
> a message saying 0Auth2 not found from Evo.

Google/gmail works fine with Evolution.


You said, I think, that you used the flatpack version of Evolution. 
Can you install a native version?

P.


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Re: [Evolution] Cannot connect to Evolution with Google

2021-02-15 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-02-15 at 08:31 -0500, Daniel Caron via evolution-list
wrote:
> Now I received a message saying 0Auth2 not found from Evo.

Hi,
it depends what precisely you did. It's much better to have defined all
your Google sources as a single account, rather than multiple of them
(separate mail, separate calendar,...), thus you enter the credentials
only once. Using Edit->Accounts->Add->Collection account, or
File->New->Collection account, and fill there your Gmail address and
then just Next->Next->Next->... with some modifications as you might
wish them, is the easiest and working way to create the Google account.

The error message itself, when you get "OAuth2 secret not found", you
should be also prompted to log in the Google account and that you agree
with sharing the data with the application/Evolution, similarly as you
did before, I guess. Once you do it again it'll be saved to the GNOME
keyring and that's all.

If you installed (and ran) gnome-keyring-daemon after the evolution(-
data-server) processes, then I suggest to execute:
   $ evolution --force-shutdown
to make sure the libsecret library (on the evolution-source-registry
process side) connects to the newly run gnome-keyring-daemon. You can
see what secrets you've stored in the keyring in an application called
"seahorse".

Bye,
Milan
> > 

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Re: [Evolution] Cannot connect to Evolution with Google

2021-02-15 Thread Daniel Caron via evolution-list
I just did and all suddenly it worked like a charm. Thanks for the
hints.
The version was coming from my KDE Depot and obviously was out dated.

On lun, 2021-02-15 at 13:55 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > What I did as suggested in pages related to gnomes keyring i
> > installed 
> > one from ubuntu by doing sudo apt install gnomes-keyring and it
> > work 
> > partly accepting to ass my contacts but not for messages. Now I
> > received 
> > a message saying 0Auth2 not found from Evo.
> 
> Google/gmail works fine with Evolution.
> 
> 
> You said, I think, that you used the flatpack version of Evolution. 
> Can you install a native version?
> 
> P.
> 
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Cannot connect to Evolution with Google

2021-02-15 Thread Pete Biggs
On Mon, 2021-02-15 at 12:21 -0500, Daniel Caron via evolution-list
wrote:
> I just did and all suddenly it worked like a charm. Thanks for the
> hints.
> The version was coming from my KDE Depot and obviously was out dated.

No, quite the opposite.  The flatpack version is more recent, but
flatpack apps run in their own sandpit so sometimes their interaction
with other parts of the environment can be a bit hit and miss. 

Fortunately the native version you have installed isn't that old so it
should all be OK.

P.


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Re: [Evolution] Cannot connect to Evolution with Google

2021-02-15 Thread Daniel Caron via evolution-list
Thank You Mr Biggs and have a nice day to all of you on the list
On lun, 2021-02-15 at 17:33 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-02-15 at 12:21 -0500, Daniel Caron via evolution-
> listwrote:
> > I just did and all suddenly it worked like a charm. Thanks for
> > thehints.The version was coming from my KDE Depot and obviously was
> > out dated.
> 
> No, quite the opposite.  The flatpack version is more recent,
> butflatpack apps run in their own sandpit so sometimes their
> interactionwith other parts of the environment can be a bit hit and
> miss. 
> Fortunately the native version you have installed isn't that old so
> itshould all be OK.
> P.
> 
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