Re: [Evolution] Question about modifying keyboard

2020-02-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2020-02-01 at 18:02 -0800, Jeffrey Needle via evolution-list
wrote:
> On Sat, 2020-02-01 at 22:44 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sat, 2020-02-01 at 12:09 -0800, Jeffrey Needle via evolution-list
> > wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2020-02-01 at 20:44 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2020-02-01 at 11:35 -0800, Jeffrey Needle wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, 2020-02-01 at 20:13 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > > > > > I've searched the entire file system, hidden files on, using
> > > > > > catfish.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't know why you are searching for anything. The help clearly
> > > > defines its exact position. Hence nothing to search for.
> > > > 
> > > > > No file named "accels" anywhere in the system. Should I be looking
> > > > > for something else?
> > > > 
> > > > No, you should not.
> > > > 
> > > > andre
> > > 
> > > As mentioned in another post, the path to the accels file is wrong if
> > > you're using a kde desktop.  It houls be ./configkde, ot ./config. 
> > > Perhsps other will be helped by this.
> > 
> > That must be a peculiarity of your distro. Evolution is part of Gnome
> > and has nothing to do with KDE, so putting it under a KDE-related
> > directory makes no sense. (I use Evo with KDE on Fedora and the config
> > information is correct).
> > 
> > poc
> 
> Well, using Q4OS.  Very nice distro.  Thanks for the help.

Be that as it may, the location of config files in Evolution is
standardised (following the Gnome conventions even if you don't have
Gnome installed), so the documentation assumes that things are where
they're supposed to be. I suggest you contact the distro maintainers to
report this as a bug.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Query about editing quoted text in Plain Text mode

2020-02-02 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2020-01-30 at 14:10 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> My current query is:
> Is editing of quoted text in the Plain Text mode used?
> What do you expect from it?

Yes, as this message, to delete and inline.

> I'm thinking of dropping it, instead of rewriting it in JavaScript.
> Without it the quote characters would be there, but they will be like
> any other text, possible to edit/remove and so on. They would be
> switched to 'blockquote' when changing format to HTML and back to
> quote character on change to Plain Text mode.

I feel that is just fine; a plain text message is text, I expect and
desire no automagica in that mode.

> I do edit quoted text myself, mostly to correct wrapping and to split
> the quoted text into parts, under which I write my comments. While
> I'm used to manually wrap the text (using Delete/Backspace and Enter
> keys), it doesn't scale for long text. Having the Format->Wrap Lines
> extended to preserve quote character appropriately on re-wrap, I'd 

No... but I'm kinda in the why-are-l-o-n-g-sections quoted camp. :)

> use to it sooner or later. I sometimes create my own quoted part just
> by adding the quote character at the beginning of the line.

Ditto.
> 
> I guess dropping "quote paragraph lines while typing in Plain Text
> mode" functionality would not cause any significant harm long term
> (habit factor considered), especially when its drop would simplify
> the code and other functions a lot (including undo/redo), but I
> thought I'll ask for an opinion here too.

Agree.


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Re: [Evolution] Query about editing quoted text in Plain Text mode

2020-02-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2020-02-02 at 13:31 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-01-30 at 14:10 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> > My current query is:
> > Is editing of quoted text in the Plain Text mode used?
> > What do you expect from it?
> 
> Yes, as this message, to delete and inline.
> 
> > I'm thinking of dropping it, instead of rewriting it in JavaScript.
> > Without it the quote characters would be there, but they will be like
> > any other text, possible to edit/remove and so on. They would be
> > switched to 'blockquote' when changing format to HTML and back to
> > quote character on change to Plain Text mode.
> 
> I feel that is just fine; a plain text message is text, I expect and
> desire no automagica in that mode.
> 
> > I do edit quoted text myself, mostly to correct wrapping and to split
> > the quoted text into parts, under which I write my comments. While
> > I'm used to manually wrap the text (using Delete/Backspace and Enter
> > keys), it doesn't scale for long text. Having the Format->Wrap Lines
> > extended to preserve quote character appropriately on re-wrap, I'd 
> 
> No... but I'm kinda in the why-are-l-o-n-g-sections quoted camp. :)
> 
> > use to it sooner or later. I sometimes create my own quoted part just
> > by adding the quote character at the beginning of the line.
> 
> Ditto.
> > I guess dropping "quote paragraph lines while typing in Plain Text
> > mode" functionality would not cause any significant harm long term
> > (habit factor considered), especially when its drop would simplify
> > the code and other functions a lot (including undo/redo), but I
> > thought I'll ask for an opinion here too.
> 
> Agree.

+1

poc

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Re: [Evolution] evolution password for first time.

2020-02-02 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sat, 2020-02-01 at 10:56 +1100, Ben Donohue via evolution-list
wrote:
> Evolution does not budge. No prompt for a password. Nothing.
> Uninstalled/reinstalled. Nothing.
> Also I tried googling for how to setup a password in the passwords
> and keys app for Evolution. Could not find an answer there either.

Hi,
there is no such guide, because those are private data.

> I'm afraid I've given up. It should not be this hard.

You are right, it really should not be that hard. I recall there had
been some issues with password prompts in certain cases in the past,
surely fixed in the latest stable, which is 3.34.x series.

> I'm using Thunderbird from now on. Pity, Evolution looks great!

I agree, it's pity. Yours 3.28.5 is basically ancient, you might get
more luck with the recent stable (otherwise nobody could use it,
right?).

You can try, as a workaround, configure the account through GNOME
Online Accounts (if the version provided by your distribution supports
IMAP accounts), or, if you did it before, then configure it directly in
Evolution. It can change things.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Question about modifying keyboard

2020-02-02 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sun, 2020-02-02 at 15:18 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Be that as it may, the location of config files in Evolution is
> standardised (following the Gnome conventions even if you don't have
> Gnome installed)

Hi,
just a little correction, it's not GNOME standard, but XDG standard [1],
and it can be overridden by the user/system/distro. Try
   $ set | grep XDG
to see some of the related variables in the system (not all of those
mentioned in [1] are required, they have their defaults).
Bye,
Milan

[1] https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html

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