Re: [Evolution] KBiff and Evolution 2.2.1

2006-01-26 Thread guenther

> > How do I configure KBiff that I'm able to use it with Evolution?
> > Thank you!
> 
> still nobody any clue?

Quote from http://www.granroth.org/kbiff/kbiff-1.html#ss1.1

  POP3, IMAP4, NNTP, Maildir, MBOX, MH. KBiff supports all major
  mailbox formats!


So the generic way to configure KBiff is to do it like any other mail
checking app. Set up an account (probably POP3 or IMAP) in KBiff as you
did in Evo.

According to that page, there is no integration into Evolution. There
isn't anything special WRT Evolution, too.


If you want to make KBiff check Evo internal mail folders and Evo
automatically checks for new mail, I guess you can do this. Though I am
not sure, if it will work reliably or cause any issue. Evolution uses
mbox format internally for the local mail.

Unfortunately you missed to mention what your issue is or what you
really have in mind. So all I can do is guessing. The KBiff docs (the
docs of the app you want to configure) aren't sufficient?

...guenther


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Re: [Evolution] calendar publication

2006-01-26 Thread guenther

> I don't understand how do I publish my calendar by the net.
> 
> In calendar tabs, I've clicked on "Actions>Publier l'information
> libre/occupé" (I'm in french...) and nothing appears...

Publish Free/Busy Information? Please note, that I do not speak French,
though... ;)


> In preferences, I don't know what must I put in field "path" ? Is a
> local path ? or a web path ?
> 
> In french, it's write "emplacement" instead of "path" :-)
> 
> Could you help me please ?
> In fact, I want to periodically have my "home.ics" file into a web
> server throw FTP protocol.

Publishing Free/Busy Information does not push your entire calendar,
AFAIK, but free/busy information only. Thus the resulting ics file
merely mentions, whether you do have an appointment or not.

...guenther


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Re: [Evolution] SpamAssassin

2006-01-26 Thread guenther

> I had the same problem with my SA.  In my case changing the
> required_score (to determine what is spam) setting from 5 to 3 made SA
> almost perfect.  I used webmin to set it.  It's located under the webmin
> server modules section.  I believe the control file
> is /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf, although I'm not very familiar with
> SA.

Everybody, please *stop* telling folks to lower the Spam score. This is
potentially harmful and not recommended by the experts on the SA mailing
list. If you don't understand SA and really know what you are doing, you
should *not* mess with those settings.

Please see the bunch of similar posts by me for more details why to not
do this.

...guenther


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Re: [Evolution] Restore deleted address book

2006-01-26 Thread guenther

> This is probably an old question, but I can't find it in the archives:
> Attempting to fix some other problem, I wiped out a user's .evolution
> directory and started them off fresh except for restoring their
> mail folders.  Other problem solved, but address book gone.
> I have a full backup of everything on the machine.
> What files do I need to restore to get just the address book
> (contact list) back without changing anything else?

Please see my generic recovery steps for Address Books:

  http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2006-January/msg00204.html


Since you still use the old settings stored in GConf: Did you have
multiple Address Books? If you did, they still point somewhere, possibly
recreated those dirs (though I am not sure about this) and you could use
these dirs directly. But then it sounds like you got one Address Book
only anyway...

If there are any stray Address Books or if you get furthers issues using
the steps explained in the archived post above, feel free to ask,
explaining the issues in detail. :)

...guenther


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Re: [Evolution] Restore deleted address book

2006-01-26 Thread guenther

> > Attempting to fix some other problem, I wiped out a user's .evolution
> > directory and started them off fresh except for restoring their
> > mail folders.  Other problem solved, but address book gone.
> > I have a full backup of everything on the machine.
> > What files do I need to restore to get just the address book
> > (contact list) back without changing anything else?
> 
> Most (if not all) of that data is stored in ".evolution/addressbook".
> Restoring that should bring back the data.

You still need to kick e-d-s's ass. :)

> I don't remember for certain, but certain custom settings for the
> addressbook (if they had any) might be stored under the .gnome*
> directories.

Nope. Settings are stored in ~/.gconf/apps/evolution/ using GConf.
'gconf-editor' and 'gconftool-2' are handy tools.

...guenther


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Re: [Evolution] import contacts from an abook.mab stand alone file.

2006-01-26 Thread guenther

> *.mab is from Mozilla Mail, I imported everything into that as I read
> that it was the same file structure as evolution, i have since found
> out other wise.

Evo and Mozilla do use the same local *mail* structure. This does not
apply to Address Books. [1]

Since you imported that old file into Mozilla: Export it again, using
ldif format. Evo can import that.

...guenther


[1] Where did you read that? If it claims sharing the same format WRT
Address Books, it is plain wrong and needs to be corrected.

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Re: [Evolution] Restore deleted address book

2006-01-26 Thread guenther
On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 18:59 -0500, George Reeke wrote:
> Dear Guenther,
>Thanks.  I'm not sure why I couldn't find your posting with
> the search on the gnome archives, but let's forget that for now.

The damn archive search on mail.gnome.org simply is broken (read: it
does not work at all). *sigh*  To search the mailing lists I recommend
using Google and adding this to any search:

  evolution site:mail.gnome.org


>Yes, there was just one address book.
>Greg Tassone yesterday suggested just restoring the contents of
> ~/.evolution/addressbook from the backup.  I did this and everything
> is OK now.  I think in my simpler situation this gave the same end
> result as your procedure.

Greg's suggestion was pretty fine, and I'm glad it already solved the
issue for you. He just forgot to mention the bit about kicking e-d-s,
since it holds the data in memory. Other than that, Greg's post is
entirely correct. :-)


>[I'm not posting this to the list because I think case is closed.]

And I'm Cc'ing the list, since we are talking about issues everyone
subscribed should know. :)  Hope you don't mind.

...guenther


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Re: [Evolution] SpamAssassin

2006-01-26 Thread guenther
On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 00:36 +0100, guenther wrote:
> [...] If you don't understand SA and really know what you are doing, you
> should *not* mess with those settings.

Uhm, that sure should have been:

"Unless you understand SA and really know ..."


That "not" was meant for both parts. Sorry for the noise.

...guenther


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Re: [Evolution] Spam Filtering

2006-01-26 Thread guenther
On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 16:10 -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 15:02 -0600, Gregg Fowler wrote:
> > I just started using Evolution with Ubuntu last Saturday.  While I am
> > really happy with the program, I don't believe the Spam Filter is
> > working correctly. At first I realized that the Spam Assasin package was
> > required and I installed it. The filter still doesn't seem to catch
> > much. If anyone could be of help, I would certainly appreciate it. I am
> > migrating from Windows XP and am committed to making Evolution work for
> > me. Thus far I really like it. I also have the remote filtering box
> > checked. 
> 
> Known bug, currently the spam filtering implementation does not work, as
> spamassassin does not start to work until it has learned 200 non-spam
> messages, and Evo has no way to teach SA what a non-spam message ("ham")
> looks like.

Ooh, wait... This is not correct.

SpamAssassin needs to be trained at least 200 Spam and Ham (non-Junk)
messages *each*, before the *Baesian* Classifier works. Any other SA
built-in rules and remote tests *do* work out of the box without any
training at all.


Anyway, you are correct that there is a "known bug". Up to Evo 2.4.x
there is no (good) way to train the SA Bayes filter at all, unless SA
classifies a mail incorrectly.


A hack-ish workaround to train Bayes using Evo is the following: Pick at
least 200 non-Junk messages, and keep them in mind. Now mark them as
Junk using the Evo UI. Go to your Junk folder, and mark all those
non-Junk mail we just abused in a sacrificial manner and correctly mark
them as non-Junk. SA will realize it learned these messages previously,
and learn them as Ham (non-Junk) only, AFAIK. Now we got the 200 Hams
learned. Collecting at least 200 Spams for learning shouldn't be hard I
guess. ;-)

Note: This really is a *hack* only, and you should not try this unless
you feel a little bit adventurous. :)


> You can work around it by using sa-learn on the command line.  See the
> spamassassin docs for more info.

Yes. :)  Please note though, that this is a safe approach only, if you
are *really* confident that there is *no* Junk in those folders you are
training as Ham. (Having all Junk removed ensures this. :)

For a safe way of training manually using 'sa-learn' I recommend saving
at least 200 Hams and Spams each into dedicated Ham and Spam files. The
safed files are in mbox format and can be learned easily using
'sa-learn' as Lee pointed out.

The Junk folder is a vFolder only, which effectively means it is a
Search over all existing real folders, displaying those mails that are
marked as Junk. The Junk mail still remains in it's physical mail folder
(the mbox format file).

...guenther


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Re: [Evolution] inbox folder contents not visible

2006-01-26 Thread guenther
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 22:02 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> hi chris,
> 
> Am Sonntag, den 15.01.2006, 19:39 -0500 schrieb Chris Lee:
> > Everything works fine now except for two of the IMAP accounts show new
> > messages as bold bracketed numbers as normal but when the Inbox is
> > opened there is nothing visible. I have cleared the filters and checked
> > the view options.
> 
> sounds like http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=228929 , this is
> fixed in evolution 2.4.2.1.

At any rate, I strongly suggest upgrading to Evo 2.4.2.1.


> workaround:
> change your account settings to "show subscribed mails only". then use
> tools / subscribe to folders to subscribe to your inbox and any other
> folder. you might need to restart evo in between.

> [PS: thanks to guenther for copy&paste of the workaround ;-) ]

Dude, you know, sometimes I am really amazed at where you get all those
quotes by me. :-)

Was that a previous list post? (Ignoring the lack of upper case usage
for the question.) The 'gnome-ui-properties' bit I spotted earlier was
using ICQ today. ;)

...guenther


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Re: [Evolution] Upgrade without losing mail: is there a HOWTO?

2006-01-26 Thread guenther

> > I am ready to upgrade from SuSE 9.2 to 10.  I have never in the past
> > been successful at preserving my Evolution inbox, folders, and contacts.
> 
> In your Home folder, make sure that Hidden files are sown, and just copy the 
> directory .evolution to some external device. Do the upgrade, and copy the 
> directory back to your home folder. Easy, unless amyone knows anything 
> different. :-)

  Wading through backlogged list posts /me mumbles the word "gconf"
  over and over again... ;-)


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Re: [Evolution] Compile

2006-01-26 Thread guenther

> > > Package libgtkhtml-3.8 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
> > > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libgtkhtml-3.8.pc'
> > > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
> > > No package 'libgtkhtml-3.8' found
> > > configure: error: Package requirements (libgtkhtml-3.8) were not met.
> > > Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
> > > installed software in a non-standard prefix.
> > 
> > well, isn't this exactly the same error as with atk before? and doesn't
> > this mean that you should install gtkhtml-devel then? ;-)
>
> Well, yes I already installed it by Yast but not ver 3.8. Where can I
> get it from? I couldn't find it by google... :( Thank you!

Sure, I'd be surprised if GtkHTML 3.8.x would be provided by your
distro, given that you are building Evo 2.4.x from source because your
distro doesn't ship it, IIRC.

Evolution 2.4.x wants GtkHTML 3.8.x. It's one of the Evo "friends". See
the project page for more friends, which you need to build from source:

  http://gnome.org/projects/evolution/download.shtml

...guenther


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Re: [Evolution] Compile

2006-01-26 Thread guenther

> > what does "rpm -qa|grep atk" return? do you have atk-devel installed?
> > what does "echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH" return?
> 
> There we go:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> su
> Password:
> linux:/home/reg # rpm -qa|grep atk
> atk-1.10.3-2
> atk-1.9.1-4

Side note: You don't need root privileges, just to query rpm.

> linux:/home/reg # echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH
> /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig:/opt/gnome/lib/pkgconfig
> linux:/home/reg #

I do hope you are not building as root, are you?

...guenther


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[Evolution] Re: [OT] inbox folder contents not visible

2006-01-26 Thread Andre Klapper
hi guenther,

Am Freitag, den 27.01.2006, 02:05 +0100 schrieb guenther:
> On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 22:02 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > [PS: thanks to guenther for copy&paste of the workaround ;-) ]
> 
> Dude, you know, sometimes I am really amazed at where you get all those
> quotes by me. :-)
> 
> Was that a previous list post? (Ignoring the lack of upper case usage
> for the question.) The 'gnome-ui-properties' bit I spotted earlier was
> using ICQ today. ;)

yes, taken from your list posting dated oct 20th, 2005.
of course i removed any of your uppercase usage to be consistent in
style(TM). ;-)

cheerio,
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Re: [Evolution] Compile

2006-01-26 Thread Ron Eggler (Mobile)




Am Freitag, den 27.01.2006, 02:37 +0100 schrieb guenther:


> > > Package libgtkhtml-3.8 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
> > > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libgtkhtml-3.8.pc'
> > > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
> > > No package 'libgtkhtml-3.8' found
> > > configure: error: Package requirements (libgtkhtml-3.8) were not met.
> > > Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
> > > installed software in a non-standard prefix.
> > 
> > well, isn't this exactly the same error as with atk before? and doesn't
> > this mean that you should install gtkhtml-devel then? ;-)
>
> Well, yes I already installed it by Yast but not ver 3.8. Where can I
> get it from? I couldn't find it by google... :( Thank you!

Sure, I'd be surprised if GtkHTML 3.8.x would be provided by your
distro, given that you are building Evo 2.4.x from source because your
distro doesn't ship it, IIRC.

Evolution 2.4.x wants GtkHTML 3.8.x. It's one of the Evo "friends". See
the project page for more friends, which you need to build from source:

  http://gnome.org/projects/evolution/download.shtml


yup, okay, got it from there but while trying to install this I get:
[shell]
Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
Package 'gtk+-2.0', required by 'Gail', not found
configure: error: Package requirements (gail >= 1.1.0) were not met.
Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
installed software in a non-standard prefix.

Alternatively you may set the GAIL_CFLAGS and GAIL_LIBS environment variables
to avoid the need to call pkg-config.  See the pkg-config man page for
more details.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> 
[/shell]

but I installed gail 1.2.8-4 with Yast2 so I guess the path thing is not correct but how do I verify that and how do I correct it?
Thank you!

Ron


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Re: [Evolution] Compile

2006-01-26 Thread Ron Eggler (Mobile)




Am Freitag, den 27.01.2006, 02:39 +0100 schrieb guenther:


> > what does "rpm -qa|grep atk" return? do you have atk-devel installed?
> > what does "echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH" return?
> 
> There we go:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> su
> Password:
> linux:/home/reg # rpm -qa|grep atk
> atk-1.10.3-2
> atk-1.9.1-4

Side note: You don't need root privileges, just to query rpm.

> linux:/home/reg # echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH
> /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig:/opt/gnome/lib/pkgconfig
> linux:/home/reg #

I do hope you are not building as root, are you?



nope, i'm just the nomal user during building...

roN


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Re: [Evolution] Compile

2006-01-26 Thread guenther

> >   http://gnome.org/projects/evolution/download.shtml
>
> yup, okay, got it from there but while trying to install this I get:
> [shell]
> Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
> Package 'gtk+-2.0', required by 'Gail', not found
> configure: error: Package requirements (gail >= 1.1.0) were not met.
> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
> 
> Alternatively you may set the GAIL_CFLAGS and GAIL_LIBS environment
> variables
> to avoid the need to call pkg-config.  See the pkg-config man page for
> more details.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> 
> [/shell]
> 
> but I installed gail 1.2.8-4 with Yast2 so I guess the path thing is
> not correct but how do I verify that and how do I correct it?
> Thank you!

Harish told you already for atk what to do, but it seems you didn't get
the point you where supposed to understand. So here goes the same
solution again, along with an explanation.

You need the *devel* packages for GTK+ and gail. Devel packages are
usually suffixed with -devel (RPM based distros) or -dev (Debian).

Devel packages are necessary, when *building* applications that depend
on it. They provide those things (like header files) that are needed
during build time only. Whereas the regular (non-devel) packages provide
the functionality to *use* the libraries and apps. This distinction is
made to not waste space. Users of modern distros don't tend to build a
lot of apps themselves.


As a rule of thumb, if anything breaks complaining about a particular
dependency not being met, please try searching for the relevant devel
package.

Another note: By using 'locate' to hunt for the mentioned .pc file you
would have noticed that file most likely to be not installed. A
courageous 'find' would have shown this for sure. So unless you find
that file, it definitely is not the path.

...guenther


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Re: [Evolution] Compile

2006-01-26 Thread Ron Eggler (Mobile)
Am Freitag, den 27.01.2006, 05:46 +0100 schrieb guenther:
> > >   http://gnome.org/projects/evolution/download.shtml
> >
> > yup, okay, got it from there but while trying to install this I get:
> > [shell]
> > Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
> > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
> > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
> > Package 'gtk+-2.0', required by 'Gail', not found
> > configure: error: Package requirements (gail >= 1.1.0) were not met.
> > Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
> > installed software in a non-standard prefix.
> > 
> > Alternatively you may set the GAIL_CFLAGS and GAIL_LIBS environment
> > variables
> > to avoid the need to call pkg-config.  See the pkg-config man page for
> > more details.
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> 
> > [/shell]
> > 
> > but I installed gail 1.2.8-4 with Yast2 so I guess the path thing is
> > not correct but how do I verify that and how do I correct it?
> > Thank you!
> 
> Harish told you already for atk what to do, but it seems you didn't get
> the point you where supposed to understand. So here goes the same
> solution again, along with an explanation.
> 
> You need the *devel* packages for GTK+ and gail. Devel packages are
> usually suffixed with -devel (RPM based distros) or -dev (Debian).
> 
> Devel packages are necessary, when *building* applications that depend
> on it. They provide those things (like header files) that are needed
> during build time only. Whereas the regular (non-devel) packages provide
> the functionality to *use* the libraries and apps. This distinction is
> made to not waste space. Users of modern distros don't tend to build a
> lot of apps themselves.

Yes, thank you for reporting again but I got that, I installed following
packages:
gail 1.8.2-4
gail-debuginfo 1.8.2-4
gail-devel 1.8.2-4
libgail-gnome 1.1.0-4
libgail-gnome-debuginfo 1.1.0-4
libgail-gnome-devel 1.1.0-4

> 
> As a rule of thumb, if anything breaks complaining about a particular
> dependency not being met, please try searching for the relevant devel
> package.

mhm

> Another note: By using 'locate' to hunt for the mentioned .pc file you
> would have noticed that file most likely to be not installed. A
> courageous 'find' would have shown this for sure. So unless you find
> that file, it definitely is not the path.

cannot find that file(gtk+-2.0.pc), not with locate, not with find and
not either with the KDE search engine...

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Re: [Evolution] search global?

2006-01-26 Thread Ron Eggler (Mobile)
Am Mittwoch, den 25.01.2006, 03:06 -0600 schrieb Ron Johnson:
> On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 21:03 -0800, Ron Eggler (Mobile) wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, den 25.01.2006, 12:34 +0800 schrieb simon.zheng: 
> > > Please create a folder under "Search Folders", then edit its properties
> > > and define what's your interesting search rule.
> > 
> > Hm where can I find 'Search Folders'?
> 
> Prior to v2.4, they are called vFolders.
Sorry, I gotta dig a bit deeper here, I still don't really know how to search a 
message globel in Evolution 2.2.1.
May anyone give me a dummie save step-by-step describtion? Thank you
very much, I don't really get that vFolder stuff...

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Re: [Evolution] Compile

2006-01-26 Thread guenther

> > > >   http://gnome.org/projects/evolution/download.shtml
> > >
> > > yup, okay, got it from there but while trying to install this I get:
> > > [shell]
> > > Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
> > > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
> > > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
> > > Package 'gtk+-2.0', required by 'Gail', not found

You did read what you posted, didn't you?


> > > configure: error: Package requirements (gail >= 1.1.0) were not met.
> > > Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
> > > installed software in a non-standard prefix.
> > > 
> > > Alternatively you may set the GAIL_CFLAGS and GAIL_LIBS environment
> > > variables
> > > to avoid the need to call pkg-config.  See the pkg-config man page for
> > > more details.
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> 
> > > [/shell]
> > > 
> > > but I installed gail 1.2.8-4 with Yast2 so I guess the path thing is
> > > not correct but how do I verify that and how do I correct it?
> > > Thank you!
> > 
> > Harish told you already for atk what to do, but it seems you didn't get
> > the point you where supposed to understand. So here goes the same
> > solution again, along with an explanation.
> > 
> > You need the *devel* packages for GTK+ and gail. Devel packages are
> > usually suffixed with -devel (RPM based distros) or -dev (Debian).
> > 
> > Devel packages are necessary, when *building* applications that depend
> > on it. They provide those things (like header files) that are needed
> > during build time only. Whereas the regular (non-devel) packages provide
> > the functionality to *use* the libraries and apps. This distinction is
> > made to not waste space. Users of modern distros don't tend to build a
> > lot of apps themselves.
> 
> Yes, thank you for reporting again but I got that, I installed following
> packages:
> gail 1.8.2-4
> gail-debuginfo 1.8.2-4
> gail-devel 1.8.2-4
> libgail-gnome 1.1.0-4
> libgail-gnome-debuginfo 1.1.0-4
> libgail-gnome-devel 1.1.0-4
> 
> 
> > As a rule of thumb, if anything breaks complaining about a particular
> > dependency not being met, please try searching for the relevant devel
> > package.
> 
> mhm

By "searching" I meant "searching for the required package using your
package management tool of choice and installing it".


> > Another note: By using 'locate' to hunt for the mentioned .pc file you
> > would have noticed that file most likely to be not installed. A
> > courageous 'find' would have shown this for sure. So unless you find
> > that file, it definitely is not the path.
> 
> cannot find that file(gtk+-2.0.pc), not with locate, not with find and
> not either with the KDE search engine...

Right. See above. Have a look at the error message. Read my last post
again. Have another look at the error message.

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Re: [Evolution] Groupwise recurring appointment support

2006-01-26 Thread pnayak
On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 09:09 -0800, Scott Anderson wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> I noticed on the Top Priority Bugs page on go-evolution.org that "recurrence 
> support for
> Groupwise" was listed and a bug number assigned.  (The bug number looks like 
> it is wrong as the
> linked bug report does not relate to evolution.)
Yeah that bug id is wrong
> 
> I am not able to make a recurring appointment in my Groupwise calendar.  What 
> are the known issues
> with this, and how far away is support for this feature?
Which version of evolution are you using, there are some issues in
recurring appointments but creating recurring appointment works. Raise a
bug in bugzilla.gnome.org, paste GROUPWISE_DEBUG traces in bugzilla. 
> 
> On a related note, I like the way recurring appointments work in evolution 
> for the personal
> calendar, and I do NOT like the way recurring appointments work from the 
> Groupwise Client (under
> windows).  The evolution setup is much more intuitive.
> 
> I am willing to help debug if there are paths for me to do so and the effort 
> does not get in the
> way of my real job.
> 
> Scott
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Re: [Evolution] Compile

2006-01-26 Thread Rod Butcher

Ron Eggler (Mobile) wrote:

Am Freitag, den 27.01.2006, 05:46 +0100 schrieb guenther:


 http://gnome.org/projects/evolution/download.shtml


yup, okay, got it from there but while trying to install this I get:
[shell]
Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
Package 'gtk+-2.0', required by 'Gail', not found
configure: error: Package requirements (gail >= 1.1.0) were not met.
Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
installed software in a non-standard prefix.

Alternatively you may set the GAIL_CFLAGS and GAIL_LIBS environment
variables
to avoid the need to call pkg-config.  See the pkg-config man page for
more details.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> 
[/shell]


but I installed gail 1.2.8-4 with Yast2 so I guess the path thing is
not correct but how do I verify that and how do I correct it?
Thank you!


Harish told you already for atk what to do, but it seems you didn't get
the point you where supposed to understand. So here goes the same
solution again, along with an explanation.

You need the *devel* packages for GTK+ and gail. Devel packages are
usually suffixed with -devel (RPM based distros) or -dev (Debian).

Devel packages are necessary, when *building* applications that depend
on it. They provide those things (like header files) that are needed
during build time only. Whereas the regular (non-devel) packages provide
the functionality to *use* the libraries and apps. This distinction is
made to not waste space. Users of modern distros don't tend to build a
lot of apps themselves.



Yes, thank you for reporting again but I got that, I installed following
packages:
gail 1.8.2-4
gail-debuginfo 1.8.2-4
gail-devel 1.8.2-4
libgail-gnome 1.1.0-4
libgail-gnome-debuginfo 1.1.0-4
libgail-gnome-devel 1.1.0-4



As a rule of thumb, if anything breaks complaining about a particular
dependency not being met, please try searching for the relevant devel
package.



mhm



Another note: By using 'locate' to hunt for the mentioned .pc file you
would have noticed that file most likely to be not installed. A
courageous 'find' would have shown this for sure. So unless you find
that file, it definitely is not the path.



cannot find that file(gtk+-2.0.pc), not with locate, not with find and
not either with the KDE search engine...
Just in case you didn't know this, abc.pc files live in the 
/usr/lib/pkgconfig directory - they indicate that a particular component 
is installed and a lot of info about how to build applications that 
require it. So the absence of gtk+-2.0.pc means you need the gtk+ 
version 2 package and its associated -devel package. The gtk package 
will install gtk+-2.0.pc.
I can understand what a mystery all this seems, linux newbies are 
swimming in deep water.

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Re: [Evolution] calendar publication

2006-01-26 Thread pnayak
On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 00:31 +0100, guenther wrote:
> > I don't understand how do I publish my calendar by the net.
> > 
> > In calendar tabs, I've clicked on "Actions>Publier l'information
> > libre/occupé" (I'm in french...) and nothing appears...
Launch evolution from terminal. When you click on 'Actions ->Publish
Calendar Information', check any specific warning/error message is
displayed in terminal 
> 
> Publish Free/Busy Information? Please note, that I do not speak French,
> though... ;)
> 
You can publish calendar events as well in 2.5.x 
> 
> > In preferences, I don't know what must I put in field "path" ? Is a
> > local path ? or a web path ?
> >
It is web path
>  
> > In french, it's write "emplacement" instead of "path" :-)
> > 
> > Could you help me please ?
> > In fact, I want to periodically have my "home.ics" file into a web
> > server throw FTP protocol.
> 
> Publishing Free/Busy Information does not push your entire calendar,
> AFAIK, but free/busy information only. Thus the resulting ics file
> merely mentions, whether you do have an appointment or not.

> ...guenther
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Spam Filtering

2006-01-26 Thread Hans

> A hack-ish workaround to train Bayes using Evo is the following: Pick at
> least 200 non-Junk messages, and keep them in mind. Now mark them as
> Junk using the Evo UI. Go to your Junk folder, and mark all those
> non-Junk mail we just abused in a sacrificial manner and correctly mark
> them as non-Junk. SA will realize it learned these messages previously,
> and learn them as Ham (non-Junk) only, AFAIK. Now we got the 200 Hams
> learned. Collecting at least 200 Spams for learning shouldn't be hard I
> guess. ;-)
> 
> Note: This really is a *hack* only, and you should not try this unless
> you feel a little bit adventurous. :)

Do I have to mark the mail as Junk first and then un-Junk them - or can
I just mark them in the Inbox as Not-Junk? In other words, what does the
initial marking as Junk do?
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Re: [Evolution] Spam Filtering

2006-01-26 Thread Rod Butcher

Hans wrote:

A hack-ish workaround to train Bayes using Evo is the following: Pick at
least 200 non-Junk messages, and keep them in mind. Now mark them as
Junk using the Evo UI. Go to your Junk folder, and mark all those
non-Junk mail we just abused in a sacrificial manner and correctly mark
them as non-Junk. SA will realize it learned these messages previously,
and learn them as Ham (non-Junk) only, AFAIK. Now we got the 200 Hams
learned. Collecting at least 200 Spams for learning shouldn't be hard I
guess. ;-)

Note: This really is a *hack* only, and you should not try this unless
you feel a little bit adventurous. :)



Do I have to mark the mail as Junk first and then un-Junk them - or can
I just mark them in the Inbox as Not-Junk? In other words, what does the
initial marking as Junk do?
When you mark an email as Spam, it enables Spamassassin to analyse the 
email's various characteristics and add it to its paramjeters that 
identify spam - the more times you train it with different emails the 
more confident Spamassassin can be in identifying Spam itself - pretty 
much how we learn to decide whether we like or don't like people we 
meet, based on past experience.
When you mark an email as not spam, when Spamassassin has decided it is 
spam, you are forcing it to rethink some rules where it had perhaps 
guessed wrong. For instance, somebody sends you a learned treatise on 
the medical effects of Viagra, Spamassassin may werll treat it as spam, 
but if you tell it its's not spam, it will go away and think "not all 
references to Viagra mean spam, let's think more deeply about this, 
maybe I need to modify my rules".

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Re: [Evolution] import contacts from an abook.mab stand alone file.

2006-01-26 Thread Andre Klapper
hi,

Am Mittwoch, den 25.01.2006, 16:27 -0700 schrieb Bone Down:
> Is it possible to import all of my contacts into Evolution 2.4.1 from an 
> abook.mab file?
> The abook.mab file is from my old winxp install

i have no idea at all what that is. wasn't this ".wab" instead of ".mab"
if i remember those old win98 days? hmm.
i doubt that there is a direct way to import this to evolution; however,
under windows you could try to export that mab file to something more
common, like csv, vcf, or ldif, which are handled by evolution. perhaps
also using a third-party application could help. :-/

hmm. i'm not a great help. :-)

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[Evolution] Groupwise recurring appointment support

2006-01-26 Thread Scott Anderson
Hi:

I noticed on the Top Priority Bugs page on go-evolution.org that "recurrence 
support for
Groupwise" was listed and a bug number assigned.  (The bug number looks like it 
is wrong as the
linked bug report does not relate to evolution.)

I am not able to make a recurring appointment in my Groupwise calendar.  What 
are the known issues
with this, and how far away is support for this feature?

On a related note, I like the way recurring appointments work in evolution for 
the personal
calendar, and I do NOT like the way recurring appointments work from the 
Groupwise Client (under
windows).  The evolution setup is much more intuitive.

I am willing to help debug if there are paths for me to do so and the effort 
does not get in the
way of my real job.

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Re: [Evolution] import contacts from an abook.mab stand alone file.

2006-01-26 Thread Bone Down




Andre,

*.mab is from Mozilla Mail, I imported everything into that as I read
that it was the same file structure as evolution, i have since found
out other wise.

BD

Andre Klapper wrote:

  hi,

Am Mittwoch, den 25.01.2006, 16:27 -0700 schrieb Bone Down:
  
  
Is it possible to import all of my contacts into Evolution 2.4.1 from an 
abook.mab file?
The abook.mab file is from my old winxp install

  
  
i have no idea at all what that is. wasn't this ".wab" instead of ".mab"
if i remember those old win98 days? hmm.
i doubt that there is a direct way to import this to evolution; however,
under windows you could try to export that mab file to something more
common, like csv, vcf, or ldif, which are handled by evolution. perhaps
also using a third-party application could help. :-/

hmm. i'm not a great help. :-)

cheers,
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Re: [Evolution] Small interface

2006-01-26 Thread Andre Klapper
hi diego,

Am Mittwoch, den 11.01.2006, 16:46 -0200 schrieb Diego Pinheiro:
> I'm just wondering if there is anything I can do to make the evolution's
> interface look smaller. Something like making fonts, buttons and icons
> smaller...

you can start "gnome-ui-properties" and disable "show icons in menus".
you can also make the fonts smaller by changing them in
"gnome-font-properties".

cheers,
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[Evolution] Evolution + GPG + MailScanner = Bad Juju...

2006-01-26 Thread Michael H. Warfield
Ok all,

I'm cross posting this to both Evolution and MailScanner because I can
already predict the finger pointing that's naturally going to result.

A few months ago, someone brought it to my attention that my GPG
signatures (messages signed only, not encrypted) where suddenly turning
up "bad".  The signature on this message will probably be "bad".  It
took some major head scratching to figure out what changed, what the
parameters where, and what the hell was happening but I think I've got
in narrowed down to some poor behavior on the part of BOTH Evolution AND
MailScanner (or a component of MailScanner - not sure).

It seems to have initially broken with an upgrade to MailScanner.  I
think upgrading to 4.47.4-2 or there abouts might have been the
triggering event, but I don't remember what I was running on that server
prior to that.  Before then, all my signatures GPG signatures were good.
After, they were bad.  If I turn off MailScanner on my server, the
signatures are good.  I have accounts on several servers and the
signatures are bad if I forward mail through one running a recent
version of MailScanner.  I just upgraded one of my servers to 4.50.5-12
and now I've got bad signatures through that server as well (I wasn't
running MailScanner on that one before).

But, that doesn't get Evolution off the hook.  It's only happening for
messages that I'm composing in Evolution!  If I compose them in Mutt or
vi a text file and send it, everything is fine.  Also, my saved copies
in the Evolution sent box is fine.

Sooo...  I compare what was saved in the "sent" box with what was
received with a bad signature...  What was the difference?  Carriage
Returns!  Evolution is terminating lines with CR-LF when composing a
message.  MailScanner is removing the CR and leaving the LF.
Apparently, Evolution called gpg in binary mode to create the signature.
Modifying even the line termination then breaks the signature.

No other mailer I use generates the DOS/Windows line termination, they
all end lines with *NIX convention of LF only (no I haven't tried
ThunderBird or KMail or other GUI client as yet).

1) Why must we be adding extraneous CR on text messages?  Is this
REALLY necessary?

2) Why is MailScanner reformating my messages and stripping the CR's?
That's not merely appending a "scanned by".  That's modifying the body
of the messages itself.  Now, maybe it's the way MailScanner is parsing
and reassembling the Mime parts, I don't know there.  But it should not
do ANYTHING that's going to break a signature.  That's verboden.

3) Why is GPG signing the message in text mode instead of binary mode?
We can go round and round on the merits and demerits of that and get
nowhere.  Looking at my .muttrc file, Mutt uses "--textmode --clearsign"
when generating PGP/Mime signed attachments or old style signed text
message.  If you think it should be signed in text mode, that still
recurses back to an Evolution problem and the parameters that it's
calling gpg with, so it's not a gpg problem.  Unlike Mutt, I don't see
any way to alter the gpg calling parameters in Evolution (ignoring the
fact that it should just work out of the box).

I would argue that BOTH packages are doing something wrong here.  I
don't think we should have this extra CR cruft on text but I don't think
MailScanner should be stripping it off legitimate clean messages either.
Maybe gpg should be clearsigning in text mode as well.  All I know is
that this combination does NOT work.  Fixing any of the three points
would fix the immediate breakage, but, maybe, we should fix all three
points and really fix it, least it come back and bite us in the ass from
another direction?

Sooo...  Can we have some discussion and comments about how to fix this
thing so GPG signatures can work with this combination?

Regards,
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution + GPG + MailScanner = Bad Juju...

2006-01-26 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast
On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 15:00 -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> Ok all,
> 
>   I'm cross posting this to both Evolution and MailScanner because I can
> already predict the finger pointing that's naturally going to result.
> 
>   A few months ago, someone brought it to my attention that my GPG
> signatures (messages signed only, not encrypted) where suddenly turning
> up "bad".  The signature on this message will probably be "bad".  It
> took some major head scratching to figure out what changed, what the
> parameters where, and what the hell was happening but I think I've got
> in narrowed down to some poor behavior on the part of BOTH Evolution AND
> MailScanner (or a component of MailScanner - not sure).
> 
>   It seems to have initially broken with an upgrade to MailScanner.  I
> think upgrading to 4.47.4-2 or there abouts might have been the
> triggering event, but I don't remember what I was running on that server
> prior to that.  Before then, all my signatures GPG signatures were good.
> After, they were bad.  If I turn off MailScanner on my server, the
> signatures are good.  I have accounts on several servers and the
> signatures are bad if I forward mail through one running a recent
> version of MailScanner.  I just upgraded one of my servers to 4.50.5-12
> and now I've got bad signatures through that server as well (I wasn't
> running MailScanner on that one before).
> 
>   But, that doesn't get Evolution off the hook.  It's only happening for
> messages that I'm composing in Evolution!  If I compose them in Mutt or
> vi a text file and send it, everything is fine.  Also, my saved copies
> in the Evolution sent box is fine.
> 
>   Sooo...  I compare what was saved in the "sent" box with what was
> received with a bad signature...  What was the difference?  Carriage
> Returns!  Evolution is terminating lines with CR-LF when composing a
> message.  MailScanner is removing the CR and leaving the LF.
> Apparently, Evolution called gpg in binary mode to create the signature.
> Modifying even the line termination then breaks the signature.
> 
>   No other mailer I use generates the DOS/Windows line termination, they
> all end lines with *NIX convention of LF only (no I haven't tried
> ThunderBird or KMail or other GUI client as yet).
> 
>   1) Why must we be adding extraneous CR on text messages?  Is this
> REALLY necessary?

Yes. From rfc3156:

   When the OpenPGP digital signature is generated:

   (1)   The data to be signed MUST first be converted to its content-
 type specific canonical form.  For text/plain, this means
 conversion to an appropriate character set and conversion of
 line endings to the canonical  sequence.

This is what Evolution does.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution + GPG + MailScanner = Bad Juju...

2006-01-26 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 15:44 -0500, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 15:00 -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> > Ok all,
> > 
> > I'm cross posting this to both Evolution and MailScanner because I can
> > already predict the finger pointing that's naturally going to result.
> > 
> > A few months ago, someone brought it to my attention that my GPG
> > signatures (messages signed only, not encrypted) where suddenly turning
> > up "bad".  The signature on this message will probably be "bad".  It
> > took some major head scratching to figure out what changed, what the
> > parameters where, and what the hell was happening but I think I've got
> > in narrowed down to some poor behavior on the part of BOTH Evolution AND
> > MailScanner (or a component of MailScanner - not sure).
> > 
> > It seems to have initially broken with an upgrade to MailScanner.  I
> > think upgrading to 4.47.4-2 or there abouts might have been the
> > triggering event, but I don't remember what I was running on that server
> > prior to that.  Before then, all my signatures GPG signatures were good.
> > After, they were bad.  If I turn off MailScanner on my server, the
> > signatures are good.  I have accounts on several servers and the
> > signatures are bad if I forward mail through one running a recent
> > version of MailScanner.  I just upgraded one of my servers to 4.50.5-12
> > and now I've got bad signatures through that server as well (I wasn't
> > running MailScanner on that one before).
> > 
> > But, that doesn't get Evolution off the hook.  It's only happening for
> > messages that I'm composing in Evolution!  If I compose them in Mutt or
> > vi a text file and send it, everything is fine.  Also, my saved copies
> > in the Evolution sent box is fine.
> > 
> > Sooo...  I compare what was saved in the "sent" box with what was
> > received with a bad signature...  What was the difference?  Carriage
> > Returns!  Evolution is terminating lines with CR-LF when composing a
> > message.  MailScanner is removing the CR and leaving the LF.
> > Apparently, Evolution called gpg in binary mode to create the signature.
> > Modifying even the line termination then breaks the signature.
> > 
> > No other mailer I use generates the DOS/Windows line termination, they
> > all end lines with *NIX convention of LF only (no I haven't tried
> > ThunderBird or KMail or other GUI client as yet).
> > 
> > 1) Why must we be adding extraneous CR on text messages?  Is this
> > REALLY necessary?
> 
> Yes. From rfc3156:
> 
>When the OpenPGP digital signature is generated:
> 
>(1)   The data to be signed MUST first be converted to its content-
>  type specific canonical form.  For text/plain, this means
>  conversion to an appropriate character set and conversion of
>  line endings to the canonical  sequence.

> This is what Evolution does.

Ok...  I'll concede that point.  Then what about the signing mode, text
vs binary.  We're still broken here.

> -- 
> Jeffrey Stedfast
> Evolution Hacker - Novell, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  - www.novell.com

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution + GPG + MailScanner = Bad Juju...

2006-01-26 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast
On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 15:53 -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 15:44 -0500, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 15:00 -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> > > Ok all,
> > > 
> > >   I'm cross posting this to both Evolution and MailScanner because I can
> > > already predict the finger pointing that's naturally going to result.
> > > 
> > >   A few months ago, someone brought it to my attention that my GPG
> > > signatures (messages signed only, not encrypted) where suddenly turning
> > > up "bad".  The signature on this message will probably be "bad".  It
> > > took some major head scratching to figure out what changed, what the
> > > parameters where, and what the hell was happening but I think I've got
> > > in narrowed down to some poor behavior on the part of BOTH Evolution AND
> > > MailScanner (or a component of MailScanner - not sure).
> > > 
> > >   It seems to have initially broken with an upgrade to MailScanner.  I
> > > think upgrading to 4.47.4-2 or there abouts might have been the
> > > triggering event, but I don't remember what I was running on that server
> > > prior to that.  Before then, all my signatures GPG signatures were good.
> > > After, they were bad.  If I turn off MailScanner on my server, the
> > > signatures are good.  I have accounts on several servers and the
> > > signatures are bad if I forward mail through one running a recent
> > > version of MailScanner.  I just upgraded one of my servers to 4.50.5-12
> > > and now I've got bad signatures through that server as well (I wasn't
> > > running MailScanner on that one before).
> > > 
> > >   But, that doesn't get Evolution off the hook.  It's only happening for
> > > messages that I'm composing in Evolution!  If I compose them in Mutt or
> > > vi a text file and send it, everything is fine.  Also, my saved copies
> > > in the Evolution sent box is fine.
> > > 
> > >   Sooo...  I compare what was saved in the "sent" box with what was
> > > received with a bad signature...  What was the difference?  Carriage
> > > Returns!  Evolution is terminating lines with CR-LF when composing a
> > > message.  MailScanner is removing the CR and leaving the LF.
> > > Apparently, Evolution called gpg in binary mode to create the signature.
> > > Modifying even the line termination then breaks the signature.
> > > 
> > >   No other mailer I use generates the DOS/Windows line termination, they
> > > all end lines with *NIX convention of LF only (no I haven't tried
> > > ThunderBird or KMail or other GUI client as yet).
> > > 
> > >   1) Why must we be adding extraneous CR on text messages?  Is this
> > > REALLY necessary?
> > 
> > Yes. From rfc3156:
> > 
> >When the OpenPGP digital signature is generated:
> > 
> >(1)   The data to be signed MUST first be converted to its content-
> >  type specific canonical form.  For text/plain, this means
> >  conversion to an appropriate character set and conversion of
> >  line endings to the canonical  sequence.
> 
> > This is what Evolution does.
> 
>   Ok...  I'll concede that point.  Then what about the signing mode, text
> vs binary.  We're still broken here.

How so? The only difference between text and binary mode is the
canonical CRLF endings, and, guess what, Evolution converts to CRLF. So
no problem there.

> 
> > -- 
> > Jeffrey Stedfast
> > Evolution Hacker - Novell, Inc.
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]  - www.novell.com
> 
>   Mike
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution + GPG + MailScanner = Bad Juju...

2006-01-26 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 15:56 -0500, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 15:53 -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 15:44 -0500, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 15:00 -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote:

:

> > > > 1) Why must we be adding extraneous CR on text messages?  Is 
> > > > this
> > > > REALLY necessary?
> > > 
> > > Yes. From rfc3156:
> > > 
> > >When the OpenPGP digital signature is generated:
> > > 
> > >(1)   The data to be signed MUST first be converted to its content-
> > >  type specific canonical form.  For text/plain, this means
> > >  conversion to an appropriate character set and conversion of
> > >  line endings to the canonical  sequence.
> > 
> > > This is what Evolution does.

> > Ok...  I'll concede that point.  Then what about the signing mode, text
> > vs binary.  We're still broken here.

> How so? The only difference between text and binary mode is the
> canonical CRLF endings, and, guess what, Evolution converts to CRLF. So
> no problem there.

Oh crap...  Wait a minute...  There is something else that's been
staring me in the face here, all along.  There's a difference in the
Mime quoted printable encoding.  I wasn't paying close enough attention
to that, rather than the text it was encoding.

On the messages that result in a "good signature" (saved in the "sent"
mailbox) I looked closely at the lines and the encoding...

What I see is something like this:

--=20^M
Michael H. Warfield (AI4NB) | (770) 985-6132 |  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Now...  Looking at the message which has passed through MailScanner, I
see those same two lines as this:

--=20=0A=
Michael H. Warfield (AI4NB) | (770) 985-6132 |  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

So, in the former case, the Mime quoted printable has the CR's as real
CR's (^M) and in the later case the quoted printable has the CR's as
quoted printable CRs (=0A).  Not good.

So that's what's really causing the problem.  It's the difference in
encoding...  The messages are identical other than that encoding
difference.  The signature is on the encoded Mime part.  That's a more
serious discrepancy than merely text vs binary.  My bad for not looking
closer at the Mime encoding itself and thinking it was just an issue
with the text format itself.

Which is correct?  Obviously the signature was generated with the ^M in
the encoded Mime part and won't match if it's encoded with =0A even
though they should be equivalent from a quoted printable standpoint.  If
their both "correct", they have to, at least, agree in order to get the
signature to verify.

Obviously there IS a problem here with MailScanner re-encoding those
parts.  That's modifying that attachment and breaking the signature.

Someone with MailScanner want to jump in on this?  Ball's in your court
now...

Mike

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> > > Jeffrey Stedfast
> > > Evolution Hacker - Novell, Inc.
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]  - www.novell.com
> > 
> > Mike
> -- 
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  - www.novell.com

Mike
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution + GPG + MailScanner = Bad Juju...

2006-01-26 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 15:56 -0500, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 15:53 -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 15:44 -0500, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 15:00 -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote:

:

> > > > 1) Why must we be adding extraneous CR on text messages?  Is 
> > > > this
> > > > REALLY necessary?
> > > 
> > > Yes. From rfc3156:
> > > 
> > >When the OpenPGP digital signature is generated:
> > > 
> > >(1)   The data to be signed MUST first be converted to its content-
> > >  type specific canonical form.  For text/plain, this means
> > >  conversion to an appropriate character set and conversion of
> > >  line endings to the canonical  sequence.
> > 
> > > This is what Evolution does.
> > 
> > Ok...  I'll concede that point.  Then what about the signing mode, text
> > vs binary.  We're still broken here.

> How so? The only difference between text and binary mode is the
> canonical CRLF endings, and, guess what, Evolution converts to CRLF. So
> no problem there.

I see that Julian, on the MailScanner list, didn't post back to the
Evolution list so I'll relay what he indicated to me along over to
here...  It appears to be a bug in the MIME-Tools package and both
Julian and I now have messages into the maintainer.  The current
MIME-Tools package isn't generating a \r\n termination like it's suppose
to (it's only generating a \n) and it's encoding the CR as =0A when it
encounters it.  :-(

Sooo...  It's off Evolutions plate after all.

Never mind.  ;-)=)
 
Regards,
Mike

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> > 
> > Mike
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[Evolution] Multi Calendar

2006-01-26 Thread Arash Yadegarnia
Hi...

I wonder if there is a way to support calendars other than gregorian.
You know calendars like Hijri (most arabic countries) and jalali (Persian)
are widely used all around the world. So it could be nice to make
Evolution multi calendar. But I think this shouldn't be easy due to the
data server's native single-calendar architucture (e-cal-time-util.c for
example).

Thanks.

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