Re: [Evolution] Preconfiguring Evolution

[Sankar P]

You can make use of the evolution-gconf-tools module for this purpose,
which as of now is an external module. Evolution 2.6 might have
integrated support for this.

Cheers,
Sankar

On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 16:48 -0400, Ken Mandelberg wrote:
> We are running evolution in a multiuser environment and would like to 
> preconfigure it with no per user interaction on first invocation. Is 
> this possible?
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[Evolution] Evolution won't start due to configuration mismatch

[Mathieu De Zutter]

Hi,

I'm running evolution 2.4.1 on Ubuntu (packaged by Ubuntu). Evolution 
stopped working since yesterday: when I try to run it, it throws an 
error box mentioning 'Evolution cannot start. Your system configuration 
does not match your Evolution configuration'.


Ok, some more info on what happened the last days, which may be relevant 
or not at all:
I had trouble connecting to the exchange server at work, so I eventually 
rm'd ~/.evolution and ~/.gconf/apps/evolution to restart with a clean 
slate (evolution and all related processes where shut down). I set up to 
exchange account with ximian-connector-setup, ran evolution and 
configured some more things. It ran fine.
Then I compiled mail-notification from _debian_ sources (the ubuntu one 
is too old), referring to an extracted _ubuntu_ evolution source to have 
evolution support in mail-notification. Eventually it compiled and I 
installed it. It ran fine.

And then suddenly... on yet another boot up, evolution won't start anymore.

I'd appreciate some to tell me how I can figure out what's going wrong, 
and why evolution thinks the configurations don't match.


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution won't start due to configuration mismatch

[Jules Colding]

On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 09:56 +0200, Mathieu De Zutter wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm running evolution 2.4.1 on Ubuntu (packaged by Ubuntu). Evolution 
> stopped working since yesterday: when I try to run it, it throws an 
> error box mentioning 'Evolution cannot start. Your system configuration 
> does not match your Evolution configuration'.

It may or may not be fixed by "killall bonobo-activation-server".

HTH,
  jules


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution won't start due to configuration mismatch

[Parthasarathi Susarla]

On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 10:18 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 09:56 +0200, Mathieu De Zutter wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm running evolution 2.4.1 on Ubuntu (packaged by Ubuntu). Evolution 
> > stopped working since yesterday: when I try to run it, it throws an 
> > error box mentioning 'Evolution cannot start. Your system configuration 
> > does not match your Evolution configuration'.
> 
> It may or may not be fixed by "killall bonobo-activation-server".
> 
use bonobo-slay instead. And then restart evolution


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution won't start due to configuration mismatch

[Mathieu De Zutter]

Jules Colding wrote:


On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 09:56 +0200, Mathieu De Zutter wrote:
 


Hi,

I'm running evolution 2.4.1 on Ubuntu (packaged by Ubuntu). Evolution 
stopped working since yesterday: when I try to run it, it throws an 
error box mentioning 'Evolution cannot start. Your system configuration 
does not match your Evolution configuration'.
   



It may or may not be fixed by "killall bonobo-activation-server".
 


That fixed it. Thanks!

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution won't start due to configuration mismatch

[Harish Krishnaswamy]

On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 09:56 +0200, Mathieu De Zutter wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm running evolution 2.4.1 on Ubuntu (packaged by Ubuntu). Evolution 
> stopped working since yesterday: when I try to run it, it throws an 
> error box mentioning 'Evolution cannot start. Your system configuration 
> does not match your Evolution configuration'.
That is most likely a problem with multiple bonobo servers on your
machine under different prefixes. Set the BONOBO_ACTIVATION_PATH to
the desired /lib/bonobo/servers, bonobo-slay and try it again.


Regards,
-Harish

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Re: [Evolution] exchange connector does not support hyphens in global catalog server name

[William John Murray]

   Hi John,
   I don't know about the hyphenation question, but
as a work around you can always try entering the ip no.
Not a great solution, but it works.
 Bill

On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 01:51 -0500, John H. wrote:
> evolution-connector-2.4.1-1.1.fc4.nr
> 
> 
> I can check my mail fine, but I got, from the school, the global
> catalog server name
> 
> it's
> 
> foo-mail.univ.edu
> 
> it saves that in the server name box, but I keep getting a timeout,
> and it says it cannot connect to
> mail.univ.edu
> 
> I am assuming this means foo- is being ignored.
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution won't start due to configuration mismatch

[Mathieu De Zutter]

Harish Krishnaswamy wrote:


On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 09:56 +0200, Mathieu De Zutter wrote:
 


Hi,

I'm running evolution 2.4.1 on Ubuntu (packaged by Ubuntu). Evolution 
stopped working since yesterday: when I try to run it, it throws an 
error box mentioning 'Evolution cannot start. Your system configuration 
does not match your Evolution configuration'.
   


That is most likely a problem with multiple bonobo servers on your
machine under different prefixes. Set the BONOBO_ACTIVATION_PATH to
the desired /lib/bonobo/servers, bonobo-slay and try it again.
 

After slaying bonobo, I had evolution running, but mail-notification 
couldn't find evolution anymore. The environment variable 
BONOBO_ACTIVATION_PATH wasn't set and bonobo wasn't configured to use 
any directory. So I did


bonobo-activation-sysconf --add-directory=/usr/lib/bonobo/servers

and again bonobo-slay, and mail-notification could use evolution again.


Thanks for all the help,

Mathieu
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[Evolution] Add-ins for Evolution

[Gordon Burgess-Parker]

Is there an RSS reader add-in for Evolution, or is there one planned?

Thanks

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Re: [Evolution] Preconfiguring Evolution

[Andre Klapper]

hi ken,

Am Montag, den 17.10.2005, 16:48 -0400 schrieb Ken Mandelberg:
> We are running evolution in a multiuser environment and would like to 
> preconfigure it with no per user interaction on first invocation. Is 
> this possible?

yes it should be, take a look at the evolution gconf tools. a tarball is
available at ,
also check  for more
information.

cheers,
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RE: [Evolution] Return receipt feature

[Andre Klapper]

hi marc,

Am Montag, den 17.10.2005, 16:48 -0400 schrieb Marc Bellack:
> How do I get the upgrade to 2.4. I am using linspire and have 2.2.3
> installed from their cnr site

either bother them to provide updated packages or (if it's an option for
you) compile on your own. :-/

hmm... what's "cnr"? either it's a linspire abbreviation or i am not a
native english speaker. ;-)

cheers,
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Re: [Evolution] interfacing witn openoffice

[Andre Klapper]

hi joep,

sorry for my very late comment.

Am Freitag, den 07.10.2005, 17:09 +0200 schrieb J.L. Blom:
> Can anybody tell me why evo 2.2.3 (my current version) doesn't interface
> with openoffice?
> Is it an openoffice thing or an evolution thing (as I saw that the
> format of the contacts database is changed from the format of 1.4 which
> worked with Oo 1.1)).

both i'd say:
evolution's shell command "evolution-addressbook-export" which is used
to do this, is broken in 2.2 (read
 for the entire
story), it's fixed in evolution 2.4. 
but at least in evolution 2.0 and 2.2, OpenOffice.org 1.1.x is also
unable to read Evo 2.x address books because OOo is looking in the wrong
place.
i also had trouble to get OpenOffice.org-1.9.79 to work with evolution,
but i can definitely see my evolution 2.4.0 contacts in
OpenOffice_org-1.9.125-4.1. both OOo-1.9.x versions are suse-9.3 builds.
according to ,
it should be fixed for OpenOffice.org 2.0.1; seems like this has
happened earlier. :-)

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Re: [Evolution] Add-ins for Evolution

[chen]

On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 13:36 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
> Is there an RSS reader add-in for Evolution, or is there one planned?
> 
There is already a RSS reader in evolution which is done as a seperate
module evolution-brainread
http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/evolution-brainread, which was written for
evolution-2.0. We need to do some modifications for it to work with
evolution-2.4, i haven't explored much into it though.

thanks chenthill.

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[Evolution] Junk detection in folders other than INBOX?

[Brian J. Murrell]

I am running Evolution 2.4.1 and have spamassassin running on my mail
server.  As such I don't to Junk detection on Evolution but rather, I
have a filter that sets Status Junk if the mail server tags the message
as spam.  This has all been working fine and still does for the most
part.

Every now and then I go to my Junk folder and move the messages from
there to a folder in my INBOX I call spam (INBOX/spam) for archival
purposes.

What I have been seeing lately is that messages I move out of INBOX/Junk
into INBOX/spam are seen again in INBOX/Junk.  Previously this did not
happen.  It seems, from observation at least that the Junk functionality
is working on more than just INBOX now and is Junk flagging messages in
all folders.

Any thoughts on why this is happening now and how best to handle it?

Thanx,
b.

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RE: [Evolution] Return receipt feature

[Marc Bellack]

CNR is and abbreviation for Linspires "click and run" application download
service. 



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hi marc,

Am Montag, den 17.10.2005, 16:48 -0400 schrieb Marc Bellack:
> How do I get the upgrade to 2.4. I am using linspire and have 2.2.3
> installed from their cnr site

either bother them to provide updated packages or (if it's an option for
you) compile on your own. :-/

hmm... what's "cnr"? either it's a linspire abbreviation or i am not a
native english speaker. ;-)

cheers,
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Re: [Evolution] interfacing witn openoffice

[J.L. Blom]

Andre,
Thanks for your answer. I read both bug reports and see the reason why
both sides had/have problems. I think the decision to use ~/.evolution
was the first problem but the authentication problem - in OOo - is/was
IMHO rather fundamental to Unix and one of the reasons I practically
never use a single user system (where authentication is irrelevant) nor
a crippled multi-user system (like W2000 or XP).
My problem is augmented by the fact that neither OOo ( and I thought
Evolution also) are 64-bit aware. As I'm using FC4_64 compilation runs
often into errors due to the 32-bit character of the source (don't ask
me why: I'm not a C-programmer).
I will try again to compile the 2.4.0 version and hope I will succeed.
Thanks again
Joep

On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 17:33 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> hi joep,
> 
> sorry for my very late comment.
> 
> Am Freitag, den 07.10.2005, 17:09 +0200 schrieb J.L. Blom:
> > Can anybody tell me why evo 2.2.3 (my current version) doesn't interface
> > with openoffice?
> > Is it an openoffice thing or an evolution thing (as I saw that the
> > format of the contacts database is changed from the format of 1.4 which
> > worked with Oo 1.1)).
> 
> both i'd say:
> evolution's shell command "evolution-addressbook-export" which is used
> to do this, is broken in 2.2 (read
>  for the entire
> story), it's fixed in evolution 2.4. 
> but at least in evolution 2.0 and 2.2, OpenOffice.org 1.1.x is also
> unable to read Evo 2.x address books because OOo is looking in the wrong
> place.
> i also had trouble to get OpenOffice.org-1.9.79 to work with evolution,
> but i can definitely see my evolution 2.4.0 contacts in
> OpenOffice_org-1.9.125-4.1. both OOo-1.9.x versions are suse-9.3 builds.
> according to ,
> it should be fixed for OpenOffice.org 2.0.1; seems like this has
> happened earlier. :-)
> 
> cheers,
> andre
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Re: [Evolution] evolution + maildir

[Benjamin A'Lee]

On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 17:32 -0700, Chris Haumesser wrote:
> 1.  In addition to the Inbox of my local maildir, I see a second empty
> Inbox folder that evolution has apparently added on its own.  Where does
> this Inbox come from, and can it be deleted or hidden from the folder
> list?  (screenshot: http://www.awry.ws/evo/extra-inbox.png)  Note that
> my mail does show up properly in the maildir Inbox (screenshot:
> http://www.awry.ws/evo/maildir-inbox.png)

Evolution wants your inbox to be $MAILDIR/ not $MAILDIR/inbox/ - I don't
know if there's any way to change that.

> 2.  There is also an extra empty folder named .#evolution.  Can I hide
> this from my folder list, or delete it?  What is its purpose, and where
> has it come from?  (screenshot:
> http://www.awry.ws/evo/dot-hash-evolution.png)

Looks like it's where Evolution stores metadata for the Junk folder
(which doesn't appear to exist on disc).  I don't think it should appear
in the folder list, though - bug?

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[Evolution] List behavior heads-up (was: Re: Mailing List test)

[guenther]

> what you noticed is a feature of mailman
> that tries to avoid that you get mails multiple times.
> As it is configured for the evolution list the list-mail
> is not sent to you if you are already included in the
> To: or Cc: header.
> If you dont like that you can change this in you personal settings
> for the list at http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/options/evolution-list
> the setting is right at the bottom and is called
> "Avoid duplicate copies of messages?".

Thanks, Christoph. :-)  This indeed was set. [1]

Strange though, that it did not use to be that way. I believe this
changed /after/ the lists where transferred to gnome.org, but I
currently don't have proof of this -- so I might be wrong.

Even more strange is, that I got two replies to my previous mails. One
got the message duplicated, the other one did not.


Some more observations: My password was changed!

So obviously transferring the list to gnome.org was not done
transparently. This one will bite anyone who wants to unsubscribe or
change settings. (And it possibly explains the issues folks had when
trying to unsubscribe...)


This isn't a sane default value anyway, IMHO. It encourages folks to
reply to sender only, when they got the response to all -- due to the
simple fact the list filters won't work... *sigh*

Anyway, solved by re-setting I hope. Thanks again...

...guenther


[1] Doh! I thought about list settings, but quickly forgot about it,
cause behavior changed without me changing anything... :/


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Re: [Evolution] exchange connector does not support hyphens in global catalog server name

[John H.]

hmm, it seemed to partially work, in letting me use my PERSONAL
contacts, but at that time, global list was not even showing

later, it stopped working with either, and i get an OUT-OF-STATE popup error?

On 10/19/05, William John Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi John,
>I don't know about the hyphenation question, but
> as a work around you can always try entering the ip no.
> Not a great solution, but it works.
>  Bill
>
> On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 01:51 -0500, John H. wrote:
> > evolution-connector-2.4.1-1.1.fc4.nr
> >
> >
> > I can check my mail fine, but I got, from the school, the global
> > catalog server name
> >
> > it's
> >
> > foo-mail.univ.edu
> >
> > it saves that in the server name box, but I keep getting a timeout,
> > and it says it cannot connect to
> > mail.univ.edu
> >
> > I am assuming this means foo- is being ignored.
> >
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Re: [Evolution] exchange connector does not support hyphens in global catalog server name

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On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 16:27 -0500, John H. wrote:
> hmm, it seemed to partially work, in letting me use my PERSONAL
> contacts, but at that time, global list was not even showing
> 
> later, it stopped working with either, and i get an OUT-OF-STATE popup error?
> 
> On 10/19/05, William John Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi John,
> >I don't know about the hyphenation question, but
> > as a work around you can always try entering the ip no.
> > Not a great solution, but it works.
> >  Bill
> >
> > On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 01:51 -0500, John H. wrote:
> > > evolution-connector-2.4.1-1.1.fc4.nr
> > >
> > >
> > > I can check my mail fine, but I got, from the school, the global
> > > catalog server name
> > >
> > > it's
> > >
> > > foo-mail.univ.edu
> > >
> > > it saves that in the server name box, but I keep getting a timeout,
> > > and it says it cannot connect to
> > > mail.univ.edu
> > >
> > > I am assuming this means foo- is being ignored.
> > >
> > > 

   Sorry, I have never seen this 'OUT-OF-STATE' error. I did have
troubles upgrading to this evolution version with the ';' which has been
added, and that manifested as bits of my calendar not appearing, which
sounds like what you see. I totally cleaned out my client and started
again. That sorted my problem - but looses all local data.
   Bill

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Re: [Evolution] Can I upgrade from 1 to 2?

[guenther]

> I've been using Evolution with POP for several years (in fact my Inbox
> still has the "Welcome to Helix Code Evolution Pre-Release" message.) 
> I'm thinking about upgrading my Linux distribution (currently Fedora
> Core 1).  If I upgrade to Evolution 2.x, will it be hard for me to
> access my pre-existing (local file, not IMAP) folders and messages?

Evolution 2.0 did import the settings of 1.4 versions just fine. Unless
the migration code was removed (which I doubt), any later version should
be able to import your old data and settings automatically on first
start.

Note: For this to work, your old Evo data and settings have to be in
your $HOME *before* you ever start the new Evolution for that account.

Are you going to re-use your old $HOME? Do you want to switch
partitions / machines? Any further advice depends on your plans how to
upgrade.

...guenther


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Re: [Evolution] Junk detection in folders other than INBOX?

[guenther]

> I am running Evolution 2.4.1 and have spamassassin running on my mail
> server.  As such I don't to Junk detection on Evolution but rather, I
> have a filter that sets Status Junk if the mail server tags the message
> as spam.  This has all been working fine and still does for the most
> part.
> 
> Every now and then I go to my Junk folder and move the messages from
> there to a folder in my INBOX I call spam (INBOX/spam) for archival
> purposes.
> 
> What I have been seeing lately is that messages I move out of INBOX/Junk
> into INBOX/spam are seen again in INBOX/Junk.  Previously this did not
> happen.  It seems, from observation at least that the Junk functionality
> is working on more than just INBOX now and is Junk flagging messages in
> all folders.
> 
> Any thoughts on why this is happening now and how best to handle it?

That's how it is designed to be.

Notice that you only set Status Junk in your filter. You do not move the
mail. And yet the junk marked mail is *not* being displayed in Inbox,
but rather in the Junk folder.

Evolutions Junk folder (the one with a special icon) is not a physical
folder, but a vFolder. That means it is like a search over all your
folders. Just like Trash.

The Junk folder shows all mails marked as junk. The Trash folder shows
all mails marked for deletion. Mails are not moved for neither of them.
Those vFolders show the mails with special flags, whereas the mails
themselfs still are physically located in their source folders. (For
"deleted" mails you can verify this by unchecking View / Hide Deleted
Messages.)


Now if you "move" a message out of your Junk folder to any other folder,
they still will be displayed in Junk, cause they still got the "Junk"
status assigned...


I'm not entirely sure on how to make this work as you'd like. This sure
depends on what you actually want and your account settings. Is this
IMAP or POP3?

As your "Mail Server" (you didn't mention anything else) runs
SpamAssassin and marks mails, you don't need the built-in Junk feature
in Evo anyway. Cause manually marking mails falsely tagged as Junk or
non-Junk by SA on your Mail Server most likely will *not* do anything
but setting this flag. The big advantage of learning these manually
marked mails (training your Bayes DB) does not work. Unless your Mail
Server happens to be the very same machine as your workstation...

Thus you simply could disable any Junk filters (you probably did not
enable this anyway) and simply change your existing custom filter:

Instead of setting the "Junk" status for mails identified as junk by
your mail server you could just move those mails to a physical folder.
Which probably is what you intended in the first place anyway.

...guenther


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Re: [Evolution] Changing the print font in Evolution

[guenther]

> Is there a way to specify a different font for printing of Evolution
> messages? It seems to default to Courier 14 which is great for my
> presbyopia, but the resulting text lines often wrap around and make for
> an ugly, difficult to read, document. I can't find any preference
> switches

Unfortunately this is not possible, AFAIK. The printing font is related
to your mail display font, IIRC. Maybe even hardcoded...


> Also, what's up with that frame around the text? It's aesthetically very
> unpleasing in my opinion. It would nice to be able to turn that feature
> off. 

I do agree whole heartedly. Printed mails are ridiculously ugly. But as
I rarely only print mails...

IMHO all printing layouts in Evo need to be improved and nicened up.
Different settings for fonts are necessary too. Not sure if these issues
are filed already in bugzilla, but I'm pretty sure they are. Feel free
to search for them and add comments -- or simply file them, if they
aren't already.

...guenther


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char *t="[EMAIL PROTECTED]";
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i>=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}

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Re: [Evolution] Unable to see inbox.

[guenther]

> I'm currently unable to see any messages in one of my inbox's.
> 
> I have 2 Imap accounts in use.  One, I'm able to see the contents of my
> inbox when I click on it, and the other not.
> 
> Both display an unread message count and I'm able to see the contents of
> all other folders.
> 
> I've tried disabling virtual folders and I've tried 'clear'ing the
> search filter on the folder with no joy.
> 
> I'm using Evolution 2.4.0 as shipped with Ubuntu Breezy.

Known issue. Let me take a guess, you are using Cyrus (at least with the
broken Inbox)?

The quick workaround:

Change your account settings to "show subscribed mails only". Then use
Tools / Subscribe to Folders to subscribe to your Inbox and any other
folder. You might need to restart Evo in between.

There is a fix [1] for this Cyrus related issue [2] in bugzilla.
Hopefully this will be fixed again for Evo 2.4.2 / e-d-s 1.4.2.

...guenther


[1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=53636&action=view
[2] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=228929


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Re: [Evolution] exchange connector does not support hyphens in global catalog server name

[Sushma Rai]

Hi,

I think it is better if you file a bug on it.

Thanks,
Sushma.

On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 16:27 -0500, John H. wrote:
> hmm, it seemed to partially work, in letting me use my PERSONAL
> contacts, but at that time, global list was not even showing
> 
> later, it stopped working with either, and i get an OUT-OF-STATE popup error?
> 
> On 10/19/05, William John Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi John,
> >I don't know about the hyphenation question, but
> > as a work around you can always try entering the ip no.
> > Not a great solution, but it works.
> >  Bill
> >
> > On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 01:51 -0500, John H. wrote:
> > > evolution-connector-2.4.1-1.1.fc4.nr
> > >
> > >
> > > I can check my mail fine, but I got, from the school, the global
> > > catalog server name
> > >
> > > it's
> > >
> > > foo-mail.univ.edu
> > >
> > > it saves that in the server name box, but I keep getting a timeout,
> > > and it says it cannot connect to
> > > mail.univ.edu
> > >
> > > I am assuming this means foo- is being ignored.
> > >
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