Dovecot does not recognize imported messages
Today I tried to import mail directly on the server's home directory on
the server. I copied it directly. I didn't use the imap protocol. Dovcot
didn't recognize these emails. I didn't display these imported emails on
my page, recalculating disk quotas. It will not increase the used
capacity. I try to send an email to this user, dovcot recognizes all the
emails, and recalculates the disk cooperation, this time is correct.
Why can't I identify the mail I imported?
> [root@imap2 ~]# dovecot -n
> # 2.2.36 (1f10bfa63): /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
> # Pigeonhole version 0.4.24 (124e06aa)
> # OS: Linux 2.6.32-431.el6.x86_64 x86_64 CentOS release 6.5 (Final)
> # Hostname: imap
> auth_master_user_separator = *
> auth_mechanisms = PLAIN LOGIN
> default_internal_user = vmail
> default_vsz_limit = 2 G
> deliver_log_format = msgid=%m, subject=%s, from=%f, %$
> dict {
> acl = mysql:/etc/dovecot/dovecot-share-folder.conf
> quotadict = mysql:/etc/dovecot/dovecot-used-quota.conf
> }
> disable_plaintext_auth = no
> first_valid_uid = 2000
> last_valid_uid = 2000
> listen = *
> mail_fsync = never
> mail_gid = 2000
> mail_location = maildir:/%Lh/Maildir/:INDEX=/%Lh/Maildir/
> mail_plugins = quota lazy_expunge zlib fts fts_solr
> mail_uid = 2000
> maildir_stat_dirs = yes
> managesieve_notify_capability = mailto
> managesieve_sieve_capability = fileinto reject envelope encoded-character
> vacation subaddress comparator-i;ascii-numeric relational regex imap4flags
> copy include variables body enotify environment mailbox date index ihave
> duplicate mime foreverypart extracttext
> mmap_disable = yes
> namespace {
> list = children
> location = maildir:/%%Lh/Maildir/:INDEX=/%%Lh/Maildir/Shared/%%u
> prefix = Shared/%%u/
> separator = /
> subscriptions = yes
> type = shared
> }
> namespace {
> hidden = yes
> list = no
> location = maildir:/var/vmail/backup/expunged/%d/%n
> prefix = .DELETED/
> separator = /
> }
> namespace inbox {
> inbox = yes
> location =
> mailbox Drafts {
> auto = subscribe
> special_use = Drafts
> }
> mailbox Junk {
> auto = subscribe
> special_use = Junk
> }
> mailbox Sent {
> auto = subscribe
> special_use = Sent
> }
> mailbox Trash {
> auto = subscribe
> special_use = Trash
> }
> prefix =
> separator = /
> }
> passdb {
> args = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-mysql.conf
> driver = sql
> }
> passdb {
> args = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-fallback-password-mysql.conf
> driver = sql
> }
> passdb {
> args = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-fallback-mysql.conf
> driver = sql
> }
> passdb {
> args = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-master-users-password
> driver = passwd-file
> master = yes
> }
> plugin {
> acl = vfile:/etc/dovecot/dovecot-acl
> acl_globals_only = yes
> auth_socket_path = /var/run/dovecot/auth-master
> fts_autoindex_exclude = Junk
> fts_autoindex_exclude2 = Trash
> fts_autoindex_exclude3 = Sent
> fts_autoindex_exclude4 = Drafts
> fts_autoindex_max_recent_msgs = 20
> lazy_expunge = .DELETED/
> mail_replica = tcp:10.0.11.152:
> quota = dict:user::proxy::quotadict
> quota_grace = 0%%
> quota_max_mail_size = 70M
> quota_rule = *:storage=1G
> quota_rule2 = *:messages=0
> quota_warning = storage=85%% quota-warning 85 %u
> quota_warning2 = storage=90%% quota-warning 90 %u
> quota_warning3 = storage=95%% quota-warning 95 %u
> sieve = /%Lh/sieve/dovecot.sieve
> sieve_default = /var/vmail/sieve/dovecot.sieve
> sieve_default_name = managesieve
> sieve_dir = /%Lh/sieve
> }
> protocols = pop3 imap sieve
> service anvil {
> client_limit = 20500
> }
> service auth {
> client_limit = 20500
> unix_listener /var/spool/postfix/private/auth {
> group = postfix
> mode = 0666
> user = postfix
> }
> unix_listener auth-master {
> group = vmail
> mode = 0666
> user = vmail
> }
> unix_listener auth-userdb {
> group = vmail
> mode = 0660
> user = vmail
> }
> }
> service dict {
> unix_listener dict {
> group = vmail
> mode = 0660
> user = vmail
> }
> }
> service imap-login {
> process_min_avail = 24
> service_count = 0
> vsz_limit = 2 G
> }
> service imap {
> process_limit = 1024000
> process_min_avail = 24
> vsz_limit = 2 G
> }
> service pop3-login {
> service_count = 0
> }
> service quota-warning {
> executable = script /usr/local/bin/dovecot-quota-warning.sh
> unix_listener quota-warning {
> group = vmail
> mode = 0660
> user = vmail
> }
> }
> ssl_ca = ssl_cert = ssl_key = # hidden, use -P to show it
> syslog_facility = local6
> userdb {
> args = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-mysql.conf
> driver = sql
> }
> userdb {
> args = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-fallback-user-mysql.conf
> driver = sql
> }
> protocol lda {
> auth_socket_path = /var/run/dovecot/auth-master
> lda_mailbox_autocreate = yes
> mail_fsync = optimized
> mail_plugins = quota lazy_expunge zlib fts fts_solr sieve
> syslog_facility = local6
> }
> protocol imap {
> imap_client_workarounds = tb-extra-mailbox-sep
> imap_id_send = NAME dovecot VERSION 2.1.17
> mail_max_userip_connections = 20
> mail_plugins = quota lazy_expunge zlib fts fts_solr imap_quota mail_log
> imap_zlib notify
> }
> protocol pop3 {
Re: Dovecot does not recognize imported messages
Did you put it under cur/ or new/ directory?
Aki
> On 8 May 2019 12:54 lty via dovecot wrote:
>
>
>
> Today I tried to import mail directly on the server's home directory on the
> server. I copied it directly. I didn't use the imap protocol. Dovcot didn't
> recognize these emails. I didn't display these imported emails on my page,
> recalculating disk quotas. It will not increase the used capacity. I try to
> send an email to this user, dovcot recognizes all the emails, and
> recalculates the disk cooperation, this time is correct.
> Why can't I identify the mail I imported?
>
>
>
> > [root@imap2 ~]# dovecot -n
> > # 2.2.36 (1f10bfa63): /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
> > # Pigeonhole version 0.4.24 (124e06aa)
> > # OS: Linux 2.6.32-431.el6.x86_64 x86_64 CentOS release 6.5 (Final)
> > # Hostname: imap
> > auth_master_user_separator = *
> > auth_mechanisms = PLAIN LOGIN
> > default_internal_user = vmail
> > default_vsz_limit = 2 G
> > deliver_log_format = msgid=%m, subject=%s, from=%f, %$
> > dict {
> > acl = mysql:/etc/dovecot/dovecot-share-folder.conf
> > quotadict = mysql:/etc/dovecot/dovecot-used-quota.conf
> > }
> > disable_plaintext_auth = no
> > first_valid_uid = 2000
> > last_valid_uid = 2000
> > listen = *
> > mail_fsync = never
> > mail_gid = 2000
> > mail_location = maildir:/%Lh/Maildir/:INDEX=/%Lh/Maildir/
> > mail_plugins = quota lazy_expunge zlib fts fts_solr
> > mail_uid = 2000
> > maildir_stat_dirs = yes
> > managesieve_notify_capability = mailto
> > managesieve_sieve_capability = fileinto reject envelope encoded-character
> > vacation subaddress comparator-i;ascii-numeric relational regex imap4flags
> > copy include variables body enotify environment mailbox date index ihave
> > duplicate mime foreverypart extracttext
> > mmap_disable = yes
> > namespace {
> > list = children
> > location = maildir:/%%Lh/Maildir/:INDEX=/%%Lh/Maildir/Shared/%%u
> > prefix = Shared/%%u/
> > separator = /
> > subscriptions = yes
> > type = shared
> > }
> > namespace {
> > hidden = yes
> > list = no
> > location = maildir:/var/vmail/backup/expunged/%d/%n
> > prefix = .DELETED/
> > separator = /
> > }
> > namespace inbox {
> > inbox = yes
> > location =
> > mailbox Drafts {
> > auto = subscribe
> > special_use = \Drafts
> > }
> > mailbox Junk {
> > auto = subscribe
> > special_use = \Junk
> > }
> > mailbox Sent {
> > auto = subscribe
> > special_use = \Sent
> > }
> > mailbox Trash {
> > auto = subscribe
> > special_use = \Trash
> > }
> > prefix =
> > separator = /
> > }
> > passdb {
> > args = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-mysql.conf
> > driver = sql
> > }
> > passdb {
> > args = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-fallback-password-mysql.conf
> > driver = sql
> > }
> > passdb {
> > args = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-fallback-mysql.conf
> > driver = sql
> > }
> > passdb {
> > args = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-master-users-password
> > driver = passwd-file
> > master = yes
> > }
> > plugin {
> > acl = vfile:/etc/dovecot/dovecot-acl
> > acl_globals_only = yes
> > auth_socket_path = /var/run/dovecot/auth-master
> > fts_autoindex_exclude = \Junk
> > fts_autoindex_exclude2 = \Trash
> > fts_autoindex_exclude3 = \Sent
> > fts_autoindex_exclude4 = \Drafts
> > fts_autoindex_max_recent_msgs = 20
> > lazy_expunge = .DELETED/
> > mail_replica = tcp:10.0.11.152:
> > quota = dict:user::proxy::quotadict
> > quota_grace = 0%%
> > quota_max_mail_size = 70M
> > quota_rule = *:storage=1G
> > quota_rule2 = *:messages=0
> > quota_warning = storage=85%% quota-warning 85 %u
> > quota_warning2 = storage=90%% quota-warning 90 %u
> > quota_warning3 = storage=95%% quota-warning 95 %u
> > sieve = /%Lh/sieve/dovecot.sieve
> > sieve_default = /var/vmail/sieve/dovecot.sieve
> > sieve_default_name = managesieve
> > sieve_dir = /%Lh/sieve
> > }
> > protocols = pop3 imap sieve
> > service anvil {
> > client_limit = 20500
> > }
> > service auth {
> > client_limit = 20500
> > unix_listener /var/spool/postfix/private/auth {
> > group = postfix
> > mode = 0666
> > user = postfix
> > }
> > unix_listener auth-master {
> > group = vmail
> > mode = 0666
> > user = vmail
> > }
> > unix_listener auth-userdb {
> > group = vmail
> > mode = 0660
> > user = vmail
> > }
> > }
> > service dict {
> > unix_listener dict {
> > group = vmail
> > mode = 0660
> > user = vmail
> > }
> > }
> > service imap-login {
> > process_min_avail = 24
> > service_count = 0
> > vsz_limit = 2 G
> > }
> > service imap {
> > process_limit = 1024000
> > process_min_avail = 24
> > vsz_limit = 2 G
> > }
> > service pop3-login {
> > service_count = 0
> > }
> > service quota-warning {
> > executable = script /usr/local/bin/dovecot-quota-warning.sh
> > unix_listener quota-warning {
> > group = vmail
> > mode = 0660
> > user = vmail
> > }
> > }
> > ssl_ca = > ssl_cert = > ssl_key = # hidden, use -P to show it
> > syslog_facility = local6
> > userdb {
> > args = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-mysql.conf
> > driver
Re: Dovecot does not recognize imported messages
I put it in the cur/ directory.
Dovecot not surviving OpenLDAP restart
Hi! Running Dovecot 2.2.36 and authenticating against an OpenLDAP 2.4.45 server. Now since some update of dovecot it will not be able to authenticate your logins after a restart of the LDAP service is restarted without a reboot of the dovecot server. Anything new here that I should be aware of? Best Regards Dag
Re: Dovecot not surviving OpenLDAP restart
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dsync to backup to directory?
Hello, We have a hosting operation and are interested in offloading mail for some of our machines to a separate machine. We want the ability, though, to migrate accounts between the “offloaded” and “unified” configurations. Toward that end, is it possible to “merge” two different mail directories (either maildir or mdbox) via doveadm? “doveadm backup” looks like the closest match, but it doesn’t appear to accept an arbitrary directory as its synchronization source. Thank you! -Felipe Gasper Mississauga, Ontario
How to auto-subscribe to virtual namespace/prefix?
In virtual namespace I can have:
namespace myvirt {
location = blah
prefix=Virtual/
separator=/
mailbox "My folder" {
auto = subscribe
}
}
And i see email clients successful display subscribed "My folder" but
the top-level prefix "Virtual/" is not subscribed. I see the Virtual/
prefix available as a noselect folder in the list of unsubscribed
folders and if I manual subscribe to it, folder tree display is perfect.
So how can i also make auto-subscription to the "Virtual/" prefix
noselect folder?
Re: How to auto-subscribe to virtual namespace/prefix?
FYI in subscription file for namespace I see empty line when the top
level prefix is subscribed. Works perfectly just need to make it
automatic
On 2019-05-08 20:50, MRob via dovecot wrote:
In virtual namespace I can have:
namespace myvirt {
location = blah
prefix=Virtual/
separator=/
mailbox "My folder" {
auto = subscribe
}
}
And i see email clients successful display subscribed "My folder" but
the top-level prefix "Virtual/" is not subscribed. I see the Virtual/
prefix available as a noselect folder in the list of unsubscribed
folders and if I manual subscribe to it, folder tree display is
perfect.
So how can i also make auto-subscription to the "Virtual/" prefix
noselect folder?
UID to file?
Hello, In the past I was in a situation that given an email UID I wanted to know which file in the Maildir directory this UID was saved. I did a small parser for $HOME/Maildir/dovecot-uidlist where, if the file had: 1000 W1838 S1796 :1557351041.10447_1.example I would ask for the UID 1000 and would return :1557351041.10447_1.example (and I knew that it was in $HOME/Maildir/new) Is there any other way using dovecot tools to do the same, to avoid parsing an internal dovecot file? Thank you! -- Carles Pina i Estany GPG Key 0x8CD5C157
Re: How to auto-subscribe to virtual namespace/prefix?
one solution that work is put a mailbox into the parent namespace like:
mailbox "Virtual/" {
auto = subscribe
}
nothing in the "namespace myvirt" would work.
On 2019-05-08 21:02, MRob via dovecot wrote:
FYI in subscription file for namespace I see empty line when the top
level prefix is subscribed. Works perfectly just need to make it
automatic
On 2019-05-08 20:50, MRob via dovecot wrote:
In virtual namespace I can have:
namespace myvirt {
location = blah
prefix=Virtual/
separator=/
mailbox "My folder" {
auto = subscribe
}
}
And i see email clients successful display subscribed "My folder" but
the top-level prefix "Virtual/" is not subscribed. I see the Virtual/
prefix available as a noselect folder in the list of unsubscribed
folders and if I manual subscribe to it, folder tree display is
perfect.
So how can i also make auto-subscription to the "Virtual/" prefix
noselect folder?
dict lookup too long time
hi,
The following error message sometimes appears on my server log,it causes the
mailbox to exceed the disk capacity limit.
May 9 09:54:11 imap dovecot: imap(h...@cndns.com): Error: dict-client: Lookup
'priv/quota/storage' failed: Connection closed: read(size=8192) failed:
Connection reset by peer (reply took 2.728 secs (2.729 in dict wait, 0.000 in
other ioloops, 0.000 in locks))
dovecot -n
# 2.2.36 (1f10bfa63): /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
# Pigeonhole version 0.4.24 (124e06aa)
# OS: Linux 2.6.32-504.el6.x86_64 x86_64 CentOS release 6.6 (Final)
# Hostname: imap3bak.sh.chengmail.me
auth_master_user_separator = *
auth_mechanisms = PLAIN LOGIN
deliver_log_format = msgid=%m, subject=%s, from=%f, %$
dict {
acl = mysql:/etc/dovecot/dovecot-share-folder.conf
quotadict = mysql:/etc/dovecot/dovecot-used-quota.conf
}
disable_plaintext_auth = no
first_valid_uid = 2000
last_valid_uid = 2000
listen = *
mail_fsync = never
mail_gid = 2000
mail_location = maildir:/%Lh/Maildir/:INDEX=/%Lh/Maildir/
mail_plugins = quota lazy_expunge zlib
mail_uid = 2000
managesieve_notify_capability = mailto
managesieve_sieve_capability = fileinto reject envelope encoded-character
vacation subaddress comparator-i;ascii-numeric relational regex imap4flags copy
include variables body enotify environment mailbox date index ihave duplicate
mime foreverypart extracttext
mmap_disable = yes
namespace {
list = children
location = maildir:/%%Lh/Maildir/:INDEX=/%%Lh/Maildir/Shared/%%u
prefix = Shared/%%u/
separator = /
subscriptions = yes
type = shared
}
namespace {
hidden = yes
list = no
location = maildir:/var/vmail/backup/expunged/%d/%n
prefix = .DELETED/
separator = /
}
namespace inbox {
inbox = yes
location =
mailbox Drafts {
auto = subscribe
special_use = \Drafts
}
mailbox Junk {
auto = subscribe
special_use = \Junk
}
mailbox Sent {
auto = subscribe
special_use = \Sent
}
mailbox Trash {
auto = subscribe
special_use = \Trash
}
prefix =
separator = /
}
passdb {
args = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-mysql.conf
driver = sql
}
passdb {
args = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-fallback-password-mysql.conf
driver = sql
}
passdb {
args = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-fallback-mysql.conf
driver = sql
}
passdb {
args = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-master-users-password
driver = passwd-file
master = yes
}
plugin {
acl = vfile:/etc/dovecot/dovecot-acl
acl_globals_only = yes
auth_socket_path = /var/run/dovecot/auth-master
lazy_expunge = .DELETED/
quota = dict:user::proxy::quotadict
quota_grace = 0%%
quota_max_mail_size = 70M
quota_rule = *:storage=1G
quota_rule2 = *:messages=0
quota_warning = storage=85%% quota-warning 85 %u
quota_warning2 = storage=90%% quota-warning 90 %u
quota_warning3 = storage=95%% quota-warning 95 %u
sieve = /%Lh/sieve/dovecot.sieve
sieve_default = /var/vmail/sieve/dovecot.sieve
sieve_default_name = managesieve
sieve_dir = /%Lh/sieve
}
protocols = pop3 imap sieve
service anvil {
client_limit = 20500
}
service auth {
client_limit = 20500
unix_listener /var/spool/postfix/dovecot-auth {
group = postfix
mode = 0666
user = postfix
}
unix_listener auth-master {
group = vmail
mode = 0666
user = vmail
}
unix_listener auth-userdb {
group = vmail
mode = 0660
user = vmail
}
}
service dict {
unix_listener dict {
group = vmail
mode = 0660
user = vmail
}
}
service imap-login {
process_min_avail = 24
service_count = 0
vsz_limit = 2 G
}
service imap {
process_limit = 1024000
process_min_avail = 24
vsz_limit = 2 G
}
service pop3-login {
service_count = 0
}
service quota-warning {
executable = script /usr/local/bin/dovecot-quota-warning.sh
unix_listener quota-warning {
group = vmail
mode = 0660
user = vmail
}
}
ssl_ca =
Push Notification clarification (MessageNew w/o LMTP or LDA)
Hello, Both the examples on the Push Notification wiki page and the XAPS plugin docs seem to suggest or state that LMTP/LDA is required. However IMAP IDLE notifications work without either of these (please no religious discussion of why Dovecot LMTP is the best thing since sliced bread and that everybody should use it). The LUA part of the push notification docs however states that events other than MessageNew are supported. So my question is, when not using LMTP/LDA and a LUA script and of course the correct mail_plugins definition (either global or for IMAP), will a message delivery trigger MessageNew? Regards, Christian -- Christian BalzerNetwork/Systems Engineer ch...@gol.com Rakuten Communications
Re: Push Notification clarification (MessageNew w/o LMTP or LDA)
On 9.5.2019 9.01, Christian Balzer via dovecot wrote: > Hello, > > Both the examples on the Push Notification wiki page and the XAPS plugin > docs seem to suggest or state that LMTP/LDA is required. It is required. > However IMAP IDLE notifications work without either of these (please no > religious discussion of why Dovecot LMTP is the best thing since sliced > bread and that everybody should use it). Without any religion, the IMAP IDLE notifications work because they notify about different thing. The IDLE notifies about *changes* to mailbox (detected or caused), while push notifications work when message is actually delivered or saved. Also push notifications cannot happen if mail is delivered outside dovecot, because it won't see them until the client logs in. > The LUA part of the push notification docs however states that events other > than MessageNew are supported. > > So my question is, when not using LMTP/LDA and a LUA script and of course > the correct mail_plugins definition (either global or for IMAP), will a > message delivery trigger MessageNew? > > Regards, > > Christian No. Only LDA or LMTP based delivery will trigger MessageNew. Copying/moving message, using IMAP APPEND or doveadm save will trigger MessageAppend. Aki
Re: UID to file?
On 9.5.2019 0.39, Carles Pina i Estany via dovecot wrote: > Hello, > > In the past I was in a situation that given an email UID I wanted to > know which file in the Maildir directory this UID was saved. > > I did a small parser for $HOME/Maildir/dovecot-uidlist where, if the > file had: > > 1000 W1838 S1796 :1557351041.10447_1.example > > I would ask for the UID 1000 and would return > :1557351041.10447_1.example (and I knew that it was in > $HOME/Maildir/new) > > Is there any other way using dovecot tools to do the same, to avoid > parsing an internal dovecot file? > > Thank you! > doveadm fetch -u victim storageid search query Aki
Re: dict lookup too long time
On 9.5.2019 8.00, hfh--- via dovecot wrote: > hi, > > The following error message sometimes appears on my server log,it causes the > mailbox to exceed the disk capacity limit. > > May 9 09:54:11 imap > dovecot: imap(h...@cndns.com): Error: dict-client: Lookup > 'priv/quota/storage' failed: Connection closed: read(size=8192) failed: > Connection reset by peer (reply took 2.728 secs (2.729 in dict wait, 0.000 in > other ioloops, 0.000 in locks)) > > Is the dict process by chance dying or logging some error(s)? Aki
Re: Push Notification clarification (MessageNew w/o LMTP or LDA)
Hello, On Thu, 9 May 2019 09:14:13 +0300 Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote: > On 9.5.2019 9.01, Christian Balzer via dovecot wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Both the examples on the Push Notification wiki page and the XAPS plugin > > docs seem to suggest or state that LMTP/LDA is required. > > It is required. > Thanks for the quick, but unwelcome reply. There's a number of things that would simply break (in the sense of not working as people expect) if we were to change to LMTP. Not sure if that's worth it to make IOS users happy who willingly bought into a restrictive environment. > > > However IMAP IDLE notifications work without either of these (please no > > religious discussion of why Dovecot LMTP is the best thing since sliced > > bread and that everybody should use it). > > Without any religion, the IMAP IDLE notifications work because they > notify about different thing. The IDLE notifies about *changes* to > mailbox (detected or caused), while push notifications work when message > is actually delivered or saved. > > Also push notifications cannot happen if mail is delivered outside > dovecot, because it won't see them until the client logs in. > Yeah, the same client that would see the IMAP notification anyway if it hadn't been zombie'd by the (I)OS. Oh well, thanks again. Christian > > The LUA part of the push notification docs however states that events other > > than MessageNew are supported. > > > > So my question is, when not using LMTP/LDA and a LUA script and of course > > the correct mail_plugins definition (either global or for IMAP), will a > > message delivery trigger MessageNew? > > > > Regards, > > > > Christian > > No. Only LDA or LMTP based delivery will trigger MessageNew. > Copying/moving message, using IMAP APPEND or doveadm save will trigger > MessageAppend. > > Aki > > > -- Christian BalzerNetwork/Systems Engineer ch...@gol.com Rakuten Communications
Re: Push Notification clarification (MessageNew w/o LMTP or LDA)
On 9.5.2019 9.35, Christian Balzer via dovecot wrote: > Hello, > > On Thu, 9 May 2019 09:14:13 +0300 Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote: > >> On 9.5.2019 9.01, Christian Balzer via dovecot wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Both the examples on the Push Notification wiki page and the XAPS plugin >>> docs seem to suggest or state that LMTP/LDA is required. >> It is required. >> > Thanks for the quick, but unwelcome reply. > > There's a number of things that would simply break (in the sense of not > working as people expect) if we were to change to LMTP. > Not sure if that's worth it to make IOS users happy who willingly bought > into a restrictive environment. > You can also use LDA instead, if it works better for you. LMTP is not the only supported way. Aki >>> However IMAP IDLE notifications work without either of these (please no >>> religious discussion of why Dovecot LMTP is the best thing since sliced >>> bread and that everybody should use it). >> Without any religion, the IMAP IDLE notifications work because they >> notify about different thing. The IDLE notifies about *changes* to >> mailbox (detected or caused), while push notifications work when message >> is actually delivered or saved. >> >> Also push notifications cannot happen if mail is delivered outside >> dovecot, because it won't see them until the client logs in. >> > Yeah, the same client that would see the IMAP notification anyway if it > hadn't been zombie'd by the (I)OS. > > Oh well, thanks again. > > Christian > >>> The LUA part of the push notification docs however states that events other >>> than MessageNew are supported. >>> >>> So my question is, when not using LMTP/LDA and a LUA script and of course >>> the correct mail_plugins definition (either global or for IMAP), will a >>> message delivery trigger MessageNew? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Christian >> No. Only LDA or LMTP based delivery will trigger MessageNew. >> Copying/moving message, using IMAP APPEND or doveadm save will trigger >> MessageAppend. >> >> Aki >> >> >> >
