On 9.5.2019 9.35, Christian Balzer via dovecot wrote: > Hello, > > On Thu, 9 May 2019 09:14:13 +0300 Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote: > >> On 9.5.2019 9.01, Christian Balzer via dovecot wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Both the examples on the Push Notification wiki page and the XAPS plugin >>> docs seem to suggest or state that LMTP/LDA is required. >> It is required. >> > Thanks for the quick, but unwelcome reply. > > There's a number of things that would simply break (in the sense of not > working as people expect) if we were to change to LMTP. > Not sure if that's worth it to make IOS users happy who willingly bought > into a restrictive environment. > You can also use LDA instead, if it works better for you. LMTP is not the only supported way.
Aki >>> However IMAP IDLE notifications work without either of these (please no >>> religious discussion of why Dovecot LMTP is the best thing since sliced >>> bread and that everybody should use it). >> Without any religion, the IMAP IDLE notifications work because they >> notify about different thing. The IDLE notifies about *changes* to >> mailbox (detected or caused), while push notifications work when message >> is actually delivered or saved. >> >> Also push notifications cannot happen if mail is delivered outside >> dovecot, because it won't see them until the client logs in. >> > Yeah, the same client that would see the IMAP notification anyway if it > hadn't been zombie'd by the (I)OS. > > Oh well, thanks again. > > Christian > >>> The LUA part of the push notification docs however states that events other >>> than MessageNew are supported. >>> >>> So my question is, when not using LMTP/LDA and a LUA script and of course >>> the correct mail_plugins definition (either global or for IMAP), will a >>> message delivery trigger MessageNew? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Christian >> No. Only LDA or LMTP based delivery will trigger MessageNew. >> Copying/moving message, using IMAP APPEND or doveadm save will trigger >> MessageAppend. >> >> Aki >> >> >> >
