Re: [DNG] Devuan "ASCII" 2.0 Release Candidate

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 05/09/2018 03:38 PM, Steve Litt wrote:

On Thu, 10 May 2018 00:11:07 +0200
Veteran Unix Admins collective  wrote:


Dear Init Freedom Lovers,


[snip]


When installing from ISO, the expert install option offers a choice of
SysVinit and OpenRC.


* *
 \ o /
  \|/
   |S T R O N G   M O V E !
  / \  _
 /   \/
/
   -

Devuan: Where init choice is more than a slogan!



Congratulations, this system rocks!

I recall there was a debate going on a few years ago about Debian moving 
to OpenRC, I had no opinion then and still don't, is there a list of 
pro's and con's?  Both use scripts?  Debian's move to the blob was a 
total shock to my system.


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[DNG] [v...@devuan.org: Devuan "ASCII" 2.0 Release Candidate]

[KatolaZ]

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Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 00:11:07 +0200
From: Veteran Unix Admins collective 
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Subject: [DNG] Devuan "ASCII" 2.0 Release Candidate
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Dear Init Freedom Lovers,

Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you!

We are happy to announce that the Devuan 2.0 ASCII Release Candidate
is now available thanks to the support, feedback, and collaboration of
the Devuan community. Devuan 2.0 ASCII Stable will be following soon.

The Devuan 2.0 ASCII RC installer now offers a wider variety of
Desktop Environments including XFCE, KDE, MATE, Cinnamon, LXQT (with
others available post-install).  In addition, there are options for
"Console productivity" with hundreds of CLI and TUI utils, as well as
a minimal base system ideal for servers.

When installing from ISO, the expert install option offers a choice of
SysVinit and OpenRC. Official ready-to-use Devuan 2.0 ASCII RC images
are available for dozens of ARM boards and SOCs, including Raspberry
Pi, BeagleBone, OrangePi, BananaPi, OLinuXino, Cubieboard, Nokia N900,
and several Chromebooks, as well as for Virtualbox/QEMU/Vagrant.

The desktop-live images are recommended for users to explore and
easily install Devuan 2.0 ASCII RC and also for the press to review
the default Xfce desktop.

The minimal-live image provides a full-featured console-based system
with a particular focus on accessibility.

Devuan developers have already started working on the third Devuan
release codenamed Beowulf (Planet nr. 38086). Preliminary installer
images should be ready for testing soon.

## Download

Devuan 2.0 ASCII Release Candidate images are available for download at:
http://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii_rc/  
and from the ISO mirrors listed at:
http://devuan.org/get-devuan 
The latter URL also includes information about the official Devuan
repositories.

## Upgrade

Upgrade paths from Debian Jessie, Devuan Jessie, and Debian Stretch
are available. Please see the instructions at:
https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/
  
The following will be enough to upgrade if you are already using
Devuan ASCII Beta: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade

## Derivatives

The Devuan project is about providing a reliable universal base for
derivatives to build on its foundation. These recent Devuan
derivatives deserve special recognition:

Maemo Leste is a new ASCII-based derivative succesfully ported on a
number of mobile phones like the Nokia N900, N950, Motorola Droid 4,
Allwinner tablets and more.  https://maemo-leste.github.io/

DecodeOS is another ASCII-based derivative targeting micro-service
usage on anonymous network clusters. It includes original software
developed to automatically build p2p networks as Tor hidden service
families.  https://decodeos.dyne.org/

heads, the libre privacy distro previously based on ASCII, continues
its development and has already moved forward to Beowulf as its new
base. https://heads.dyne.org

More Devuan derivatives can be found at:
https://devuan.org/os/partners/devuan-distros

## Contact

Mailing list: https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng  
IRC: #devuan #devuan-dev (Freenode)  
Forum: http://dev1galaxy.org
Press contact: free...@devuan.org
Bug tracker: https://bugs.devuan.org
Popularity contest: https://popcon.devuan.org


## Appreciation

We wish to thank all of you for the incredible support given to this
development effort, which continues to make Devuan a useful and
reliable base distro as well as a pleasant and cooperative community.

To support the Devuan project: https://devuan.org/donate

Financial reports for the year 2017 are available for download from
the same page.

happy hacking ;^)

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[DNG] Congratulations! and some migration questions (was: Re: Devuan "ASCII" 2.0 Release Candidate)

[Martin Steigerwald]

Subscribe to receive announcements about Devuan - 10.05.18, 00:16:
> Dear Init Freedom Lovers,
> 
> Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you!
> 
> We are happy to announce that the Devuan 2.0 ASCII Release Candidate
> is now available thanks to the support, feedback, and collaboration of
> the Devuan community. Devuan 2.0 ASCII Stable will be following soon.
> 
> The Devuan 2.0 ASCII RC installer now offers a wider variety of
> Desktop Environments including XFCE, KDE, MATE, Cinnamon, LXQT (with
> others available post-install).  In addition, there are options for
> "Console productivity" with hundreds of CLI and TUI utils, as well as
> a minimal base system ideal for servers.

Marvelous! Congratulations!

Thank you for your dedication!


I am late in adopting Devuan for my systems. I think I am generally 
quite conservative about switching to a different distribution, if I 
have one that mostly works. Even when it is similar. One part of this 
is: I first like to see whether the new distributor is serious about 
long-term support of the distribution and it looks like you are! Also I 
occasionally ran into annoyances with Systemd and a total lack of 
willingness of upstream and partly lack of willingness of distributors 
like Debian or Red Hat to do anything about them.

I already prepared two server VMs for switching to Devuan. I purged the 
systemd package from the system. And by doing that disconnected one of 
them from the network by rebooting it cause purging systemd removed a 
file from /etc/systemd that caused the old interface names like "eth0" 
still to be in effect. After removing that file the interface was called 
"ens32", breaking my network configuration. I wonder whether to file a 
bug report about that with Debian. As purging systemd package should 
*never ever* change network interface names (that is the business of 
udev or something like it).

So on one the the VMs, my backup VM the interface is now called "ens32". 
On the other VM, my main server VM, it is still "eth0" cause I used 
"net.ifnames=0" in kernel command line.

I´d like to switch over my backup VM first and wonder whether the 
network device with Devuan ASCII will be called "eth0" again. Thats 
totally fine with me, however I´d like to know before hand, so I can 
adapt /etc/network/interfaces before repeating. Cause I have no direct 
console access to the machine. I can get temporary access if need be, 
but best would be when it is not required.

As for my main server VM: I am likely going with a new Devuan ASCII 
install anyway, as the old VM is still 32-bit and I just don´t feel like 
cross grading (and dealing with a lot of issues). So I wait for a new VM 
to be created for me to install Devuan ASCII directly on and then 
migrate my services one by one.

I bet I´d like to use OpenRC on both of them in order to learn something 
new.

> Upgrade paths from Debian Jessie, Devuan Jessie, and Debian Stretch
> are available. Please see the instructions at:
> https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/

You are still using "apt-get". With Debian Stretch and later I switched 
my habit to using the shorter, newly written "apt" command.

Also I love "This site is a cookie-free zone" :) Mine is too.


I also wonder about migrating my main laptop. I think I first will give 
myself some time to have experiences with the server VMs, before 
attempting to do anything with the laptop. There is a huger complexity 
involved for migrating a laptop with a ton of applications and usage 
scenarios.


Especially I wonder about network without Network Manager, but on a 
Plasma desktop – no, I won´t switch to something else. I have the 
following scenarios for the laptop:

- Cable based network with DHCP, but at one place with 801.x.

- Different, mostly WPA2 based, WLAN

- OpenVPN connection for employer network access 

I meanwhile – after a long time of installing and purging Network 
Manager out of frustration – use Network Manager for all of this.

How would this play out with Devuan ASCII? Or well Ceres, as I am 
currently using Debian GNU/Linux Sid on that machine. For OpenVPN I bet 
I would be fine using a text based configuration file + some script to 
set up some routes again. But the other stuff should work with some kind 
of GUI that is working with Plasma desktop. I bet I may be out of luck 
with that.


Another thing is audio: Similar to Network Manager I meanwhile also use 
Pulseaudio for everything. I think I had even more install and purge 
cycles with that one. It was total crap for me till about Pulseaudio 7 
or so. It is now mostly working nicely. Everything means:

- Playback with Amarok, Firefox, Chromium, VLC and others.

- USB sound speakers

- Bluetooth based headset + Twinkle softphone

- Rarely Skype (I am quite good at avoiding it)

How would this play out on Devuan? Can I still use Pulseaudio or what 
would you recommend? I hope for Pipewire to be better, but since it 
comes from Red Hat developers it may depe

Re: [DNG] Congratulations! and some migration questions (was: Re: Devuan "ASCII" 2.0 Release Candidate)

[Hendrik Boom]

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 01:24:01PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> 
> I also wonder about migrating my main laptop. I think I first will give 
> myself some time to have experiences with the server VMs, before 
> attempting to do anything with the laptop. There is a huger complexity 
> involved for migrating a laptop with a ton of applications and usage 
> scenarios.
> 
> 
> Especially I wonder about network without Network Manager, but on a 
> Plasma desktop – no, I won´t switch to something else. I have the 
> following scenarios for the laptop:

I'm using a package called "wicd" on ascii.  It identifies itself as 
"Wicd Network Manager" when I activate its window.

I seem to have trouble getting it to recognise a wired 
ethernet connection when a wifi one is available but unreliable.
That may just be a configuraton issue I haven't worried about yet.

-- hendrik

> 
> - Cable based network with DHCP, but at one place with 801.x.
> 
> - Different, mostly WPA2 based, WLAN
> 
> - OpenVPN connection for employer network access 
> 
> I meanwhile – after a long time of installing and purging Network 
> Manager out of frustration – use Network Manager for all of this.
> 
> How would this play out with Devuan ASCII? Or well Ceres, as I am 
> currently using Debian GNU/Linux Sid on that machine. For OpenVPN I bet 
> I would be fine using a text based configuration file + some script to 
> set up some routes again. But the other stuff should work with some kind 
> of GUI that is working with Plasma desktop. I bet I may be out of luck 
> with that.
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Re: [DNG] Congratulations! and some migration questions (was: Re: Devuan "ASCII" 2.0 Release Candidate)

[KatolaZ]

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 01:24:01PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:

[cut]

> 
> I´d like to switch over my backup VM first and wonder whether the 
> network device with Devuan ASCII will be called "eth0" again. Thats 
> totally fine with me, however I´d like to know before hand, so I can 

[cut]

Hi,

the default in ASCII is to use the traditional names "eth0", "wlan0"
etc. You can change it if you want. 

[cut]

> 
> > Upgrade paths from Debian Jessie, Devuan Jessie, and Debian Stretch
> > are available. Please see the instructions at:
> > https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/
> 
> You are still using "apt-get". With Debian Stretch and later I switched 
> my habit to using the shorter, newly written "apt" command.
>

You'd be surpried in discovering that there are even people still
using dselect. Newly-written does not always correlate positively with
"better" :)

[cut]

> 
> 
> Especially I wonder about network without Network Manager, but on a 
> Plasma desktop – no, I won´t switch to something else. I have the 
> following scenarios for the laptop:

You can still use network-manager. It'a available in ASCII. Or wicd.

[cut]

> 
> Another thing is audio: Similar to Network Manager I meanwhile also use 
> Pulseaudio for everything. I think I had even more install and purge 
> cycles with that one. It was total crap for me till about Pulseaudio 7 
> or so. It is now mostly working nicely. Everything means:
>

Pulseaudio is still around, if you want/need it.

HTH

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] Congratulations! and some migration questions (was: Re: Devuan "ASCII" 2.0 Release Candidate)

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Thu, 10 May 2018 13:24:01 +0200, Martin wrote in message 
<1817275.jr5NbVVTY5@merkaba>:

> Another thing is audio: Similar to Network Manager I meanwhile also
> use Pulseaudio for everything. I think I had even more install and
> purge cycles with that one. It was total crap for me till about
> Pulseaudio 7 or so.

..when was that?

..which version PA do you run now?

..do you have apulse? (As in:'dpkg -l apulse |fmt ')

> It is now mostly working nicely. 

..5.0-13+devuan2 is the latest Devuan version PA, AFAICS, Debian
offers 10.0-1+deb9u1 on my "ascii+experimental" laptop.

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Re: [DNG] Congratulations! and some migration questions

[Didier Kryn]

    Hi Martin.

Le 10/05/2018 à 13:24, Martin Steigerwald a écrit :

Especially I wonder about network without Network Manager


    The first thing I've done as from at least a dozen years, after 
installing a new version of Debian, was to 'apt-get remove --purge 
network-manager'. This f. crap is always in your way to 
deconfigure/misconfigure the network. ifupdown with a simple interfaces 
file does the job as it always did. In case you want your system to 
deconfigure/reconfigure Ethernet interfaces when you unplug/replug the 
cables, then 'apt-get install ifplugd'; it's potterware but it just works.


    BTW, I'm not sure ifupdown and the interfaces file are installed by 
default nowadays. I don't remember which package one must install to 
have all this traditional infrastructure, though, if it's already 
installed, it won't be removed when dist-upgrading.


    If you have a wifi interface, it is more complicated. Explained below.

'apt-get install wpa-supplicant wpa-gui', then write the following two 
lines into /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf:


ctrl_interface=DIR=/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=dialout
update_config=1

    Make yourself a member of group dialout.  Then search the web for a 
tutorial on wifi roaming with wpa_supplicant: it will explain you how to 
write the wifi part of the interfaces file. To finish with, 
'dpkg-reconfigure ifplugd' to tell it to handle your wifi interface. Use 
wpa_gui everytime you want to connect your laptop to a yet-unknown wifi hub.


    Didier


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Re: [DNG] Congratulations! and some migration questions

[KatolaZ]

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 05:49:42PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:

[cut]

> 
>     If you have a wifi interface, it is more complicated. Explained below.
> 
> 'apt-get install wpa-supplicant wpa-gui', then write the following two lines
> into /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf:
> 
> ctrl_interface=DIR=/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=dialout
> update_config=1
> 
>     Make yourself a member of group dialout.  Then search the web for a
> tutorial on wifi roaming with wpa_supplicant: it will explain you how to
> write the wifi part of the interfaces file. To finish with,
> 'dpkg-reconfigure ifplugd' to tell it to handle your wifi interface. Use
> wpa_gui everytime you want to connect your laptop to a yet-unknown wifi hub.
> 


...or, you might want to give a try to setnet ;)

HND

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Re: [DNG] Congratulations! and some migration questions

[Didier Kryn]

Le 10/05/2018 à 17:56, KatolaZ a écrit :

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 05:49:42PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:

[cut]


     If you have a wifi interface, it is more complicated. Explained below.

'apt-get install wpa-supplicant wpa-gui', then write the following two lines
into /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf:

ctrl_interface=DIR=/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=dialout
update_config=1

     Make yourself a member of group dialout.  Then search the web for a
tutorial on wifi roaming with wpa_supplicant: it will explain you how to
write the wifi part of the interfaces file. To finish with,
'dpkg-reconfigure ifplugd' to tell it to handle your wifi interface. Use
wpa_gui everytime you want to connect your laptop to a yet-unknown wifi hub.



...or, you might want to give a try to setnet ;)


    I promise I'll try it on my next install.

    Didier

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Re: [DNG] Congratulations! and some migration questions (was: Re: Devuan "ASCII" 2.0 Release Candidate)

[Don Wright]

>On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 01:24:01PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:

>> You are still using "apt-get". With Debian Stretch and later I switched 
>> my habit to using the shorter, newly written "apt" command.

KatolaZ replied:

>You'd be surpried in discovering that there are even people still
>using dselect. Newly-written does not always correlate positively with
>"better" :)


One should note 'apt', like most of the Debian repository, is available in
Devuan and appears to work as intended. It was even included in the Devuan
live image I used to install ASCII beta a while back. I haven't seen (or
searched for) reasons not to use it, would someone provide a reference to
that discussion?

--Don
who uses aptitude when needed, apt update mostly, but has done enough
apt-get dist-upgrades that apt full-upgrade still looks strange.

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Re: [DNG] Congratulations! and some migration questions (was: Re: Devuan "ASCII" 2.0 Release Candidate)

[KatolaZ]

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:45:21AM -0500, Don Wright wrote:
> >On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 01:24:01PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> 
> >> You are still using "apt-get". With Debian Stretch and later I switched 
> >> my habit to using the shorter, newly written "apt" command.
> 
> KatolaZ replied:
> 
> >You'd be surpried in discovering that there are even people still
> >using dselect. Newly-written does not always correlate positively with
> >"better" :)
> 
> 
> One should note 'apt', like most of the Debian repository, is available in
> Devuan and appears to work as intended. It was even included in the Devuan
> live image I used to install ASCII beta a while back. I haven't seen (or
> searched for) reasons not to use it, would someone provide a reference to
> that discussion?
> 

I guess nobody here has said that apt should not be used, or that it's
worse or better than apt-get/apt-cache. The fact that apt's developers
would like apt to become the default command-line interface in all
deb-based systems does not automatically mean that everybody *must*
use apt, either. As the fact that apt-get became available did not
mean that dselect had to be discarded altogether.

You know, it's always better to have *more* options as time goes on,
rather than less. If you are "free to choose" among *one single
option*, can you still call it a choice at all? :)

HND

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] Congratulations! and some migration questions

[viverna]

il devuanizzato Didier Kryn  il 10-05-18 17:49:42 ha scritto:
> does the job as it always did. In case you want your system to
> deconfigure/reconfigure Ethernet interfaces when you unplug/replug the
> cables, then 'apt-get install ifplugd'; it's potterware but it just works.
I prefer to use netplug:
apt-get install netplug
it is not potterware.

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Re: [DNG] Congratulations! and some migration questions (was: Re: Devuan "ASCII" 2.0 Release Candidate)

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Thu, 10 May 2018 18:02:38 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message 
<20180510170238.gq26...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:

> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:45:21AM -0500, Don Wright wrote:
> > >On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 01:24:01PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald
> > >wrote:  
> >   
> > >> You are still using "apt-get". With Debian Stretch and later I
> > >> switched my habit to using the shorter, newly written "apt"
> > >> command.  
> > 
> > KatolaZ replied:
> >   
> > >You'd be surpried in discovering that there are even people still
> > >using dselect. Newly-written does not always correlate positively
> > >with "better" :)  
> > 
> > 
> > One should note 'apt', like most of the Debian repository, is
> > available in Devuan and appears to work as intended. It was even
> > included in the Devuan live image I used to install ASCII beta a
> > while back. I haven't seen (or searched for) reasons not to use it,
> > would someone provide a reference to that discussion?
> >   
> 
> I guess nobody here has said that apt should not be used, or that it's
> worse or better than apt-get/apt-cache. The fact that apt's developers
> would like apt to become the default command-line interface in all
> deb-based systems does not automatically mean that everybody *must*
> use apt, either. As the fact that apt-get became available did not
> mean that dselect had to be discarded altogether.
> 
> You know, it's always better to have *more* options as time goes on,
> rather than less. If you are "free to choose" among *one single
> option*, can you still call it a choice at all? :)

..me, I prefer aptitude, "apt-get install aptitude ;aptitude " 
and go play around in the menus etc, if you don't like it, 8o)
"apt-get purge aptitude" and it's gone. :o)

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Re: [DNG] Congratulations! and some migration questions

[wirelessduck]

> On 11 May 2018, at 03:12, viverna  wrote:
> 
> il devuanizzato Didier Kryn  il 10-05-18 17:49:42 ha scritto:
>> does the job as it always did. In case you want your system to
>> deconfigure/reconfigure Ethernet interfaces when you unplug/replug the
>> cables, then 'apt-get install ifplugd'; it's potterware but it just works.
> I prefer to use netplug:
> apt-get install netplug
> it is not potterware.

Those suggestions are excellent. I am constantly switching network cables in my 
desktop and so had Network Manager installed to do it easily.

I’ve just installed netplug, configured /etc/network/interfaces, and have now 
happily ditched the extra Network Manager bloat running here. Interfaces still 
connect to dhcp automatically when cables are unplugged/plugged :D

Thanks

—Tom
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Re: [DNG] Congratulations! and some migration questions

[Alessandro Selli]

On 10/05/2018 at 17:56, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 05:49:42PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> 
> [cut]
> 
>>
>>     If you have a wifi interface, it is more complicated. Explained below.
>>
>> 'apt-get install wpa-supplicant wpa-gui', then write the following two lines
>> into /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf:
>>
>> ctrl_interface=DIR=/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=dialout
>> update_config=1
>>
>>     Make yourself a member of group dialout.  Then search the web for a
>> tutorial on wifi roaming with wpa_supplicant: it will explain you how to
>> write the wifi part of the interfaces file. To finish with,
>> 'dpkg-reconfigure ifplugd' to tell it to handle your wifi interface. Use
>> wpa_gui everytime you want to connect your laptop to a yet-unknown wifi hub.
>>
> 
> 
> ...or, you might want to give a try to setnet ;)

  I really should do it.


Alessandro
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[DNG] Unable to "Load missing firmware from removable media"

[dan pridgeon]

I'm trying to install ASCII on a Compaq presaria C700.According to the live 
boot USB cli, it has a Broadcom BCM4311 802.11 b/g WLAN [14e4"4311] rev 02 for 
the wireless adapter.  The install complains, as it should, and ask for two 
files, the names of which are duplicated for some reason: b43/ucode13.fw and 
b43-open/ucode13.fw. After much searching and downloading and building from 
instructions, I now have two copies of the file ucode13.fw; one from build 
instructions and one from a github download with sizes 28,216 and 29,008 
respectively.  Using a FAT32 usb drive and several attempts, I decided to do 
the following:Using Gparted on this Refracta laptop, I recreated a partition 
from scratch using all of the drive and formatting it to ext4 format. I then 
creatd the following structure in hopes of covering all the bases:It contains:
/ucode13.fw/b43/ucode13.fw/b43-open/ucode13.fw
I did this based on the installer message: "The missing files are: b43/ucode.fw 
b43/ucode13.fw b43-open/ucode.fw b43-open/ucode.fw"
The permissions are set to 755 at all levels. 
They are owned by root.
The installer tags the usb drive twice, computes a bit, and then tags the drive 
three times before giving up and putting up the original message.
Any ideas as to how to proceed?  Thank you.

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Re: [DNG] Congratulations! and some migration questions

[Didier Kryn]

Le 10/05/2018 à 19:12, viverna a écrit :

il devuanizzato Didier Kryn  il 10-05-18 17:49:42 ha scritto:

does the job as it always did. In case you want your system to
deconfigure/reconfigure Ethernet interfaces when you unplug/replug the
cables, then 'apt-get install ifplugd'; it's potterware but it just works.

I prefer to use netplug:
apt-get install netplug
it is not potterware.


    Happy to learn there's an alternative :-)


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Re: [DNG] Unable to "Load missing firmware from removable media"

[Florian Zieboll]

On Fri, 11 May 2018 02:05:03 + (UTC)
dan pridgeon  wrote:

> I'm trying to install ASCII on a Compaq presaria C700.According to
> the live boot USB cli, it has a Broadcom BCM4311 802.11 b/g WLAN
> [14e4"4311] rev 02 for the wireless adapter.  The install complains,
> as it should, and ask for two files, the names of which are
> duplicated for some reason: b43/ucode13.fw and
> b43-open/ucode13.fw. After much searching and downloading and
> building from instructions, I now have two copies of the file
> ucode13.fw; one from build instructions and one from a github
> download with sizes 28,216 and 29,008 respectively.  Using a FAT32
> usb drive and several attempts, I decided to do the following:Using
> Gparted on this Refracta laptop, I recreated a partition from scratch
> using all of the drive and formatting it to ext4 format. I then
> creatd the following structure in hopes of covering all the bases:It
> contains: /ucode13.fw/b43/ucode13.fw/b43-open/ucode13.fw I did this
> based on the installer message: "The missing files are: b43/ucode.fw
> b43/ucode13.fw b43-open/ucode.fw b43-open/ucode.fw" The permissions
> are set to 755 at all levels. They are owned by root. The installer
> tags the usb drive twice, computes a bit, and then tags the drive
> three times before giving up and putting up the original message. Any
> ideas as to how to proceed?  Thank you.


Hallo Dan,

the default way to non-free firmware during installation is described
here:

https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware#Firmware_during_the_installation 

The Presario C700 does not seem that new, that the firmware wouldn't be
included in the official non-free archive.

Libre Grüße,

Florian



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